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Do RGIII and JG look unhappy during the Jacksonville game? You decide.

[url]https://twitter.com/michaelwargocsn/status/640140712491806721[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1119137]Or McC wants to find a way to trade him later in the season. And I believe we can cut him at any time this season and not pay him 16 mil?


[B]And who cares if he's on the bench? [/B]

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That depends on how much drama he and his daddy stir up with social media and the press. If they are as quiet as little church mice and Daddy G stays away from the team, then OK. If not, then [U]they[/U] need to go.

What if Dan Snyder wants to keep RGIII around in case Jay Gruden loses too many (or perhaps enough, in Snyder's mind) games. In that event, he could demand that Scot fire Gruden and replace him with a HC who will try harder to develop RGIII. Then, it would be "Here we go, again!".

One thing I promise myself is that if Snyder ever fires Scot McCloughan over this mess, than I'm done forever with Snyder and his football team. And that is coming from a lifelong Skins fan who was raised in Washington, D.C.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1119137]Or McC wants to find a way to trade him later in the season. And I believe we can cut him at any time this season and not pay him 16 mil?


And who cares if he's on the bench?

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McC wants him gone...he is a major distraction and a negative force in the locker room. The longer u wait the worse it is. McC wants to move the franchise forward asap

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[quote=Ruhskins;1119140]Albert Breer and PFT reporting on twitter that McCoy is #2 QB.

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Lol wow.

30gut is gonna cry

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[quote=SirLK26;1119138]People here keep saying this, but I've never heard it anywhere else. Can someone provide a link?[/quote]

if you sign a 16m guaranteed deal with another party, you just can't back out of it afterwards because you changed your mind. not without mutual consent - otherwise it's not a contract at all, it's just at will employment. I highly doubt RGIII's agent let the skins put in any kind of team option clause, cause then it's not a guaranteed contract at all.

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the only problem with keeping him is that you can't bar him from practice or the facility (that's be a breach of contract suit), and if he trips and a turf goblin gets him, then we eat 16m from our 2016 team for a player that looks like he has no future here.

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[quote=Chico23231;1119143]McC wants him gone...[B]he is a major distraction and a negative force in the locker room[/B]. The longer u wait the worse it is. McC wants to move the franchise forward asap[/quote]

Good point. He may need to go regardless of how well he may behave.

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[quote=That Guy;1119145[B]]if you sign a 16m guaranteed deal with another party, you just can't back out of it afterwards because you changed your mind. [/B] not without mutual consent - otherwise it's not a contract at all, it's just at will employment. I highly doubt RGIII's agent let the skins put in any kind of team option clause, cause then it's not a guaranteed contract at all.[/quote]

But that's exactly the way the 5th year option works. Griffin didn't sign a new contract, the Skins just picked up that option, which is part of the original rookie contract Griffin signed. If the Skins want to rescind the option for any reason, they can do so without Griffin's consent.

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[quote=SirLK26;1119150]But that's exactly the way the 5th year option works. Griffin didn't sign a new contract, the Skins just picked up that option, which is part of the original rookie contract Griffin signed. If the Skins want to rescind the option for any reason, they can do so without Griffin's consent.[/quote]

and once that option is picked up, it's binding. if he's on the roster, he gets the money, if he's not, he doesn't, unless he's hurt, cause the option is guaranteed against injury.

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The Redskins have made at least two more cuts Saturday, releasing tackle Takoby Cofield and guard Tyler Larsen, per sources. The Redskins do like Cofield so it would make sense for them to re-sign him to the practice squad. They have him their highest signing bonus among undrafted players.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1119143]McC wants him gone...he is a major distraction and a negative force in the locker room. The longer u wait the worse it is. McC wants to move the franchise forward asap[/QUOTE]
McC probably doesn't care about out any of the QBs on the roster since he didn't draft or signed them. So I don't think he cares much about whether RG3 is on the roster or not.

Since I don't know for sure how McC feels, (and you seem to know for sure), I would guess he's probably somewhere in the middle in terms of his opinion of RG3. Doesn't think he's the future of the team, but doesn't want to give him away for nothing. McC wants all the picks he can get to continue to rebuild the team.

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[quote=That Guy;1119156]and once that option is picked up, it's binding. if he's on the roster, he gets the money, if he's not, he doesn't, unless he's hurt, cause the option is guaranteed against injury.[/quote]

Okay, but that's not the point. The point is that the Skins can release him without his consent. Contrary to what people on here have been saying.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1119158]McC probably doesn't care about out any of the QBs on the roster since he didn't draft or signed them. So I don't think he cares much about whether RG3 is on the roster or not.

Since I don't know for sure how McC feels, (and you seem to know for sure), I would guess he's probably somewhere in the middle in terms of his opinion of RG3. Doesn't think he's the future of the team, [B]but doesn't want to give him away for nothing. McC wants all the picks he can get to continue to rebuild the team.[/B]

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.......Almo came to us in that kind of pick

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[quote=Ruhskins;1119158]McC probably doesn't care about out any of the QBs on the roster since he didn't draft or signed them. So I don't think he cares much about whether RG3 is on the roster or not.

Since I don't know for sure how McC feels, (and you seem to know for sure), I would guess he's probably somewhere in the middle in terms of his opinion of RG3. Doesn't think he's the future of the team, but doesn't want to give him away for nothing. McC wants all the picks he can get to continue to rebuild the team.

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Can't wait to move rg3 middle of season...now is the time. Especially if we have to replace gruden with Callahan mid season if the skins falter out the gate. McC gonna be too busy with that.

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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1119150]But that's exactly the way the 5th year option works. Griffin didn't sign a new contract, the Skins just picked up that option, which is part of the original rookie contract Griffin signed. If the Skins want to rescind the option for any reason, they can do so without Griffin's consent.[/QUOTE]
No. They can't. Its part of the cba language. If you pick it up it attaches to the original contract. It has one requirement, that the player is one the team the first day of the league year it relates to(in this case 2016) and one proviso, if the player sustains an injury that would keep him out on the first day of the league year(2016) the player receives the guaranteed pay(16mil)
Once the team exercises the option the language is locked.

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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1119160]Okay, but that's not the point. The point is that the Skins can release him without his consent. Contrary to what people on here have been saying.[/QUOTE]
Right they can release him. But they can't modify the contract. They either cut him before the first day of the new league year or they pay him the 16million. If he is not cut and injured then they pay him. Those are the three possible routes for griffin at this point.

I thought you were saying we could keep him on the roster but cancel the 5th year option. That is not a possibility

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1119142]That depends on how much drama he and his daddy stir up with social media and the press. If they are as quiet as little church mice and Daddy G stays away from the team, then OK. If not, then [U]they[/U] need to go.





What if Dan Snyder wants to keep RGIII around in case Jay Gruden loses too many (or perhaps enough, in Snyder's mind) games. In that event, he could demand that Scot fire Gruden and replace him with a HC who will try harder to develop RGIII. Then, it would be "Here we go, again!".





One thing I promise myself is that if Snyder ever fires Scot McCloughan over this mess, than I'm done forever with Snyder and his football team. And that is coming from a lifelong Skins fan who was raised in Washington, D.C.[/QUOTE]



I'm with you. That will be the last straw..

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[quote=Chico23231;1119163]Can't wait to move rg3 middle of season...now is the time. Especially if we have to replace gruden with Callahan mid season if the skins falter out the gate. McC gonna be too busy with that.[/quote]

This makes no sense whatsoever.

Also, isn't RG3 technically injured right now since he's not cleared from his concussion? Once again, I don't get the obsession fans continue to have with RG3, given that right now he's buried in the depth chart and hurt.

If Cousins can't mentally handle RG3 as a second or third stringer, then he has no business being a starter.

As I said before, this team is going to ride these three QBs through the season. And unless Cousins becomes the second coming of Tom Brady, these three guys will be gone by the next year or two.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1119167]Right they can release him. But they can't modify the contract. They either cut him before the first day of the new league year or they pay him the 16million. If he is not cut and injured then they pay him. Those are the three possible routes for griffin at this point.

I thought you were saying we could keep him on the roster but cancel the 5th year option. That is not a possibility

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Okay, my bad. Thanks for clearing that up.

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[URL="https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/640209171175092224"]More cuts in[/URL]. Terrance Plummer, Houston Bates, Trey Williams, and Je'Ron Hamm are gone.

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[quote=SirLK26;1119172][URL="https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/640209171175092224"]More cuts in[/URL]. Terrance Plummer, Houston Bates, Trey Williams, and Je'Ron Hamm are gone.[/quote]

Breeland cut?
That cant be right......

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1119175]Breelan cut?
That cant be right......[/quote]

They listed him in the suspended list somewhere, I think they can use his roster spot until his suspension ends?

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Connor Cook or Christian Hackenburg (sp?) will be our starting QB next year. That's my prediction. I hope I'm wrong and its still Cousins. (I actually want RG3 to start but that's not a valid option with Gruden).

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[quote=SirLK26;1119172][URL="https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/640209171175092224"]More cuts in[/URL]. Terrance Plummer, Houston Bates, Trey Williams, and Je'Ron Hamm are gone.[/quote]

I hope they pick up Bates and Williams for PS. They balled out in preseason but we're pretty much stacked at LB and RB.

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[URL="https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/640231104964894720"]Quinton Dunbar[/URL] released.

So to recap the cuts so far...

Sage Harold, OLB
Reggie Bell, WR
Colin Lockett, WR
Mack Brown, RB
DJ Williams, TE
Austin Reiter, C
Akeem Davis, S
Takoby Cofield, OT
Tyler Larsen, OL
Terrance Plummer, ILB
Houston Bates, OLB
Trey Williams, RB
Je'Ron Hamm, TE
Quinton Dunbar, CB

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1119072]I hate to turn every thread into a Griffin thread, but I don't want to start a thread/poll for a 1 day event, so I just will ask here.

What is your percentage chance that Griffin is on the team at 6pm Saturday?

I think 25% he is on the team tomorrow night, and less then 10% that he is on the roster opening day.[/quote]


It's all your fault...

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[quote=SirLK26;1119196][URL="https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/640231104964894720"]Quinton Dunbar[/URL] released.

So to recap the cuts so far...

Sage Harold, OLB
Reggie Bell, WR
Colin Lockett, WR
Mack Brown, RB
DJ Williams, TE
Austin Reiter, C
Akeem Davis, S
Takoby Cofield, OT
Tyler Larsen, OL
Terrance Plummer, ILB
Houston Bates, OLB
Trey Williams, RB
Je'Ron Hamm, TE
Quinton Dunbar, CB[/quote]

Everything pretty standard so far. Wonder if the release of Plummer, Bates & Hamm opens up roster spots for Ross + Spencer (7 receivers).

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Spencer released with injury waiver

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1119194]I hope they pick up Bates and Williams for PS. They balled out in preseason but we're pretty much stacked at LB and RB.[/QUOTE]


And Dunbar too. And Plummer. Wonder about Cofield as well.


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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1119202]Spencer released with injury waiver[/quote]

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/640251035441852417[/url]

Final cuts are Spencer, Corey Crawford, DaMon Cromartie-Smith, Travian Robertson, Jerell Powe, [URL="https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/640251553912344577"]Jordan Campbell[/URL], and [URL="http://realredskins.com/2015/09/04/redskins-2015-roster-cuts-tracker/"]Robert Thomas[/URL].

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So 3 of our draft picks aren't on the roster??? Surprised we didn't put Mitchel on IR after his injury. Colts are better than us and they snapped him up. Must have skills. Would like to know how those decisions are made on injured guys. Would be good knowledge to know.

Hopefully Spencer is at least put on practice squad. He seems like an old school Redskins. type guy.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1119187]Connor Cook or Christian Hackenburg (sp?) will be our starting QB next year. That's my prediction. I hope I'm wrong and its still Cousins. (I actually want RG3 to start but that's not a valid option with Gruden).[/quote]

Jared Goff out of Cal, the next A. Rodgers.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1119208]Jared Goff out of Cal, the next A. Rodgers.[/quote]

Goff seems a little too tiny to me, like RGIII, I don't know how many NFL hits he can take.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1119209]Goff seems a little too tiny to me, like RGIII, I don't know how many NFL hits he can take.[/quote]

Dude's barely over 200lbs. He needs to throw on about 20lbs of muscle. Then we can talk.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1119209]Goff seems a little too tiny to me, like RGIII, I don't know how many NFL hits he can take.[/quote]

I agree he needs to gain some weight, he is a junior but I can guarantee he will be in next years draft. How big was Joe Montana?

[url=http://www.dailycal.org/2015/09/04/the-golden-boy-jared-goff-a-potential-dark-horse-heisman-candidate-has-a-lot-riding-on-his-shoulders/]The Golden Boy: Jared Goff, a potential dark horse Heisman candidate, has a lot riding on his shoulders | The Daily Californian[/url]

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Joseph Fauria was cut by the Lions, go get him.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1119216]Joseph Fauria was cut by the Lions, go get him.[/quote]

He's very good in the Red Zone. Big target with good hands.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1119207]So 3 of our draft picks aren't on the roster??? Surprised we didn't put Mitchel on IR after his injury. Colts are better than us and they snapped him up. Must have skills. Would like to know how those decisions are made on injured guys. Would be good knowledge to know.

Hopefully Spencer is at least put on practice squad. He seems like an old school Redskins. type guy.[/quote]

Mitchel is on IR. Just not here:

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/10557/Tevin-Mitchel]Tevin Mitchel - Indianapolis Colts - 2015 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

Ditto, would love an education on the implications of placing a player on IR.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1119219]He's very good in the Red Zone. Big target with good hands.[/quote]

7 TD's on his rookie season, his blocking is getting better. At 6'7" 267 lbs, I would imagine he could become a decent blocker if Wes Phillips works with him.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1119221]Mitchel is on IR. Just not here:

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/NFL/10557/Tevin-Mitchel]Tevin Mitchel - Indianapolis Colts - 2015 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

Ditto, would love an education on the implications of placing a player on IR.[/quote]

For players in their first few years, they cant be placed on IR until the first cut down date. When Mitchell was injured, we had a bunch of CB's already out. They had the option of practicing with hardly any CB's or waiving him and using his roster spot to sign another player. If they are waived, they have to clear waivers before he can be placed on IR. They took a chance and it didnt work out. Had we not had so many injuries to that position at the time, I figure they would have held onto him and then put him on IR when they could.