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Yeah we got 3 or 4 sacks but there was a few plays we really needed one. Like i said I'm not upset at all, we are what we are and that's a decent but not good or bad team. 7 wins would be a good year for us. Kirk probably isn't the future QB unless he really shows that he can produce and got a few games without the ints. The one to grimes yesterday was awful but the other int was just a great play.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1120594]I thin Kirk did his.job today. There are a few things he can do better. Overall he managed the game well.

The offensive line handled the Fins defensive line. They open up holes and pass protected well. If they play like that all year well have a chance to win a lot games.

Morris was excellent. Enough said...

The defensive front looked good for the part. But they didn't get enough pressure. We were good against the run. Not so good against the pass.


Jay Gruden is a below average head coach. I think our first two drives got halted because of his conservative play calling. We had third and short. The Fins were obviously playing the run and moron played right into their hands. He is not the man for this job.

Our secondary sucks. They stop anybody. They catch easy interceptions. They can't tackle to save.their lives.

Andre Roberts is 100% pure garbage. After watching him today I have to ask myself why is he on the team? What does he contributed? How many passes does he have to drop before we drop him?[/quote]

I think JG has to play it conservative with his unproven QB. I think things will open up as the season moves on.

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What we saw yesterday was Step 1 in the process of team building. Scot started with the lines, as he should, and they played well. Secondly, there were a number of our 2015 draft picks who played and all they did OK, as far as I could tell.

I said I would be satisfied as long as we played hard and progressed as a team. We did those things yesterday and, so far, I'm satisfied.

There is no doubt that we have a long way to go in some areas and it's going to take two more FA classes, two more draft classes, and a couple other moves of opportunity to become as competitive as we'd all like to be.

Keeping Scot is absolutely critical to our future success. I also want to keep Jay Gruden. He is competent, IMO, and I do not want the offensive players to have to learn another system. I want this system to become automatic to them so we can gain the advantage of having the utmost efficiency in executing our plays.

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The Ravens have no WR'S ..trade Roberts to them for anything!

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ok whats the update on D Jax and Duke N'nachos injuries

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down: fans harping on Gruden. ESPN radio right now is doing grades only of Gruden and one fan called in bashing Gruden for not challenging the 2nd Int. Hello, it's an automatic review, AND would have been a 15yd penalty if he had challenged it. Others are talking about how he has his guy at QB now. Again, yes he has the guy he chose out of the 3 that he had when he got here, but let's not confuse that with being the same as "his" guy.

I have plenty of gripes with Gruden, and so far he's average at best, but the radio show just sounds like fans piling on for the sake of finding fault. It doesn't help that t he radio show specifically asked for grading of Gruden, knowing it would get the most vitriolic reaction.

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Apparently the ground crew gets a D also

(the 3 in the 30 is upside down - this is from a tweet by [URL="https://twitter.com/SBNationGIF/status/643150597642825728/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]SB Nation[/URL])

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1120617]What we saw yesterday was Step 1 in the process of team building. Scot started with the lines, as he should, and they played well. Secondly, there were a number of our 2015 draft picks who played and all they did OK, as far as I could tell.

[B]I said I would be satisfied as long as we played hard and progressed as a team. We did those things yesterday and, so far, I'm satisfied.[/B]

There is no doubt that we have a long way to go in some areas and it's going to take two more FA classes, two more draft classes, and a couple other moves of opportunity to become as competitive as we'd all like to be.

Keeping Scot is absolutely critical to our future success. I also want to keep Jay Gruden. He is competent, IMO, and I do not want the offensive players to have to learn another system. I want this system to become automatic to them so we can gain the advantage of having the utmost efficiency in executing our plays.[/quote]

I didn't see progression. I saw the same team we've been witnessing for years: A team that has the talent and ability to win games, but not the fortitude, preparation, or discipline that's required.

I'm guessing I'm in the minority. I've seen posts on this very thread that have said this team is a 6 win team, this team is no better than an 8 win team, and that this team could win 7 games. I'm on a completely different planet with this team. They'll win between 2-4 games because they're a 2-4 win team. The difference between winning three games versus eight games in this league is not about talent. It's about all the things that the culture of this team eschews. A headline in the post today read "Redskins Continue to Make an Art Form of Almost." That's what they do; that's what they've been doing for years, and it's what they did yesterday.

8 win teams don't routinely surrender special teams touchdowns, they don't routinely commit turnovers on critical drives, they don't commit 6 penalties in a string of 8 plays. Yesterday, the Skins did everything they always do. No progression there, in my opinion.

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[quote=Chico23231;1120619]ok whats the update on D Jax and Duke N'nachos injuries[/quote]

Nacho has a fractured and dislocated wrist, I say a minimum of 4 games, possibly more. He's injury prone.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/09/14/alfred-morriss-121-yard-rushing-day-puts-him-in-elite-company/[/url]

Gotta say...Alfmo was just freakin awesome. He really showed me something yesterday

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1120617]What we saw yesterday was Step 1 in the process of team building. Scot started with the lines, as he should, and they played well. Secondly, there were a number of our 2015 draft picks who played and all they did OK, as far as I could tell.

I said I would be satisfied as long as we played hard and progressed as a team. We did those things yesterday and, so far, I'm satisfied.

There is no doubt that we have a long way to go in some areas and it's going to take two more FA classes, two more draft classes, and a couple other moves of opportunity to become as competitive as we'd all like to be.

Keeping Scot is absolutely critical to our future success. I also want to keep Jay Gruden. He is competent, IMO, and I do not want the offensive players to have to learn another system. I want this system to become automatic to them so we can gain the advantage of having the utmost efficiency in executing our plays.[/quote]

Agreed.. I actually walked out of the stadium feeling optimistic. Penalties and special teams kept us from a win but we were playing football. Real football. That was a physical game. If this is the foundation we are building on I think we're going to have a very strong team in a year or two. They are further on the curve than I expected. Still see 6-10 this year but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/13/asked-about-dirty-play-suh-says-i-dont-know-what-youre-talking-about/]Asked about dirty play, Suh says: I don’t know what you’re talking about | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Suh...just a dirty ass player. His punk ass better be fined by the league

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[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/09/14/mia-was-grades-bad-day-for-qb-ryan-tannehill/[/url]

Profootball focus article


Top performers:

RE Jason Hatcher (+4.2)

LG Shawn Lauvao (+2.7)

LT Trent Williams (+2.5)

FB Darrel Young (+2.1)

QB Kirk Cousins and SS Duke Ihenacho (both +1.5)


not bad...Lauvao Ive noticed had a good preseason, great to see him stepping up.

Hatcher was out of his mind yesterday.

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[quote=Coff;1120623]I didn't see progression. I saw the same team we've been witnessing for years: A team that has the talent and ability to win games, but not the fortitude, preparation, or discipline that's required.[/quote]

I think you may be fooling yourself if you think we have the talent to be a winner. We just don't. I said we are on Step 1 because we have a long way to go.

The progress I saw yesterday was specific to the physical play of the OL and DL, with a nod to the play of the rookies. I was encouraged by yesterday's game because Scot's primary focus this season was on improving the talent on both lines, which I think he has done. We ran the ball and we stopped the run. Those two things are fundamental to success in football. Nevertheless, there is still much work to be done to improve the personnel on this team.

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They aren't good enough to overcome alot mistakes yet. The young talent is definately better though.

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Redskins plan to release kicker Kai Forbath and sign former Saints and Bills kicker Dustin Hopkins, per source

Per Adam Schefter...

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[quote=Chico23231;1120631]Redskins plan to release kicker Kai Forbath and sign former Saints and Bills kicker Dustin Hopkins, per source

Per Adam Schefter...[/quote]

He never should have made it out of training camp last year when we drafted that FG kicker, who's doing well with the Saints.

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[quote=Coff;1120623]I didn't see progression. I saw the same team we've been witnessing for years: A team that has the talent and ability to win games, but not the fortitude, preparation, or discipline that's required.

I'm guessing I'm in the minority. I've seen posts on this very thread that have said this team is a 6 win team, this team is no better than an 8 win team, and that this team could win 7 games. I'm on a completely different planet with this team. They'll win between 2-4 games because they're a 2-4 win team. The difference between winning three games versus eight games in this league is not about talent. It's about all the things that the culture of this team eschews. A headline in the post today read "Redskins Continue to Make an Art Form of Almost." That's what they do; that's what they've been doing for years, and it's what they did yesterday.

8 win teams don't routinely surrender special teams touchdowns, they don't routinely commit turnovers on critical drives, they don't commit 6 penalties in a string of 8 plays. Yesterday, the Skins did everything they always do. No progression there, in my opinion.[/quote]

This is a 4-6 win team and the fanbase needs to deal with it. We are a few quality drafts away, as well as a couple free agents. The depth is too thin and you saw when Hall went down Miami went right after Amerson. That was just one example. We can't afford to loose anyone else right now.

I saw plenty of progression. What I really liked was a true commitment to the run game. I think the question is will ownership stay patient enough with Gruden as L's pile up.

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Fleabath is gone.

[url=http://nfltweeter.com/redskins/]Washington Redskins | NFLTweeter.com[/url]

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The good: The o-line and running game looking good.

The bad: Cousins is still a turnover machine. We failed to make the big plays when we had the chance. Jackson missing time during off season for personal reasons outside of football then pulling his hamstring, doesn't look good on him, and I'm betting he misses at least next weeks game too. Not going for it on 4th and 1 from our 26. Penalties were ridiculous.

The dumpster fire: Special teams is looking like worst in the nfl again. Nothing worse than constantly giving up special teams touchdowns. It never gets fixed.

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I wonder whether Preston Smith takes over for Murphy next week. Murphy seemed invisible to me on D, whereas Smith generated the most exciting defensive play we've had in a while. Pot Roast was pretty quiet too -- not a lot of push, although the run D was stout. Paea was quiet too. And I didn't even notice of Jean-Frnacois was on the field. The D line was good against the run, but didn't really push the pocket too much, with the exception of Hatcher on a few plays.

I like the hits I saw from Goldson -- would be happier if he were a step closer to the ball and could break up passes instead of nail the receiver after the catch. The safety for Miami was all over the place -- some guy I had never heard of, but man he is quick.

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Ok -- here's something incredible.

Suh + Wake -- combined for 1 tackle and no sacks! If you had told me that we would pull that off before the game, I would have assumed either that one of both of them got hurt or that we win the game.

Thank you, Coach Callahan. That was pretty amazing. Can you do it again next week, please? We promise that after next week, we won't be seeing a pass rush like that for a long time.

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D Jax out 3 to 4 weeks. Huge blow to us.

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[quote=Chico23231;1120625][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2015/09/14/alfred-morriss-121-yard-rushing-day-puts-him-in-elite-company/[/url]

Gotta say...Alfmo was just freakin awesome. He really showed me something yesterday[/quote]

What impresses me most about him is his ability to turn what looks like a loss
or no gain into 3-4 yards.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1120657]D Jax out 3 to 4 weeks. Huge blow to us.[/quote]

Looks like we'll see more of Crowder.

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Yeah I hope to see more crowder. As for morris he's just a stud every yr

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[quote=irish;1120616]I think JG has to play it conservative with his unproven QB. I think things will open up as the season moves on.[/quote]

I don't buy that for one second. He had no problem with passing the ball on third and forever where most competent coaches would have called a draw or a screen pass. Can you explain that?

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Now that the anger is gone, we have definitely upgraded in the trenches, which has been neglected by this team for as long as i can remember. Reed must stay healthy. Garcon seems to be back to the 2013 version. Our secondary is better, but still needs help. Our run game is spot on. KC is serviceable at least and good at best - lets see how he grows up this year (or if he grows up). D-Jax durability is now a really big concern. Gruden did nothing to win me over this week. Last year he seemed to abandoned the run game every week, and now he seems to not no when to go to the air. He , like KC, needs to grow into his shoes. Although I have a bad feeling about him doing so where as KC i believe will. We need a pass rusher desperately- Galette injury was brutal.
Needs rite now - pass rusher, cb, maybe one more solid piece to the oline, deep threat, kicker, and probably another decent tight end. But all in all my opinion of the direction of this team has changed and I believe that next year we will be a force. This year if Gruden can get a handle on things and we avoid key injuries I think we can actually be a playoff team. Next week already seems like a must win.
Edit : anyone who questions weather SM is going to be around for long should be banned for one week minimum. Lol. He is building from the inside out which is what you need to do. No more icing first cake second. Build a strong foundation in the trenches and than we can decorate later. We are only a few pieces away rite now. Again our HC is the big question mark imo.

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Ugly:

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2566517-duke-ihenacho-injury-updates-on-redskins-safetys-wrist-and-recovery]Duke Ihenacho Injury: Updates on Redskins Safety's Wrist and Recovery | Bleacher Report[/url]

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2541720-desean-jackson-injury-updates-on-redskins-stars-hamstring-and-return]DeSean Jackson Injury: Updates on Redskins Star's Hamstring and Return | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1120659]Looks like we'll see more of Crowder.[/quote]

And Ross

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1120671]I don't buy that for one second. He had no problem with passing the ball on third and forever where most competent coaches would have called a draw or a screen pass. Can you explain that?[/quote]
It was explained earlier, that the play design was a fairly safe one on the first INT and Cousins still threw an INT. Now, later in the game the same kind of play comes up, and rather than having Cousins have to make that same throw, he goes ultra conservative. I understand the play calls, and again, if the players aren't making dumb penalties the team mostly moved up and down the field. It's not like Miami's defense didn't also play, or that somehow we are such a juggernaut that every play is going to be amazing.

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[quote=mredskins;1120675]Ugly:

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2566517-duke-ihenacho-injury-updates-on-redskins-safetys-wrist-and-recovery"]Duke Ihenacho Injury: Updates on Redskins Safety's Wrist and Recovery | Bleacher Report[/URL]

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2541720-desean-jackson-injury-updates-on-redskins-stars-hamstring-and-return"]DeSean Jackson Injury: Updates on Redskins Star's Hamstring and Return | Bleacher Report[/URL][/quote]

It's time for Ross to get on the field anyway. He played the entire pre season, played very well, now it's time to get his chance. Tired of Jackson and his prima donna act. He didn't play any in the preseason cause he's hurt, comes out week one and pulls a hammy running a go route. Obviously his body wasn't ready for NFL ball. They're paying him 8 million or so for this??

Also tired of Roberts and him dropping passes. I'm so done with that dude. Garcon, Crowder, Grant and Ross need to be out there as much as possible.

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I liked seeing improvement in a lot of areas such as the offensive line, running attack, and the front seven. It was also nice seeing a lot of the young players (Scherff, Moses, Crowder) out there.

The biggest issue that I have with the team is their inability to score early in the game. The Redskins dominated just about every stat in the first half, except in points. They also squandered the opportunities to put up points after the defense caused a turnover.

When you miss scoring opportunities early in the game, you set yourself up for failure later on. If we had scored 17 or 21 points by half, it would have been a different game in the second half. And this is a problem the team has been having for a long time.

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The #Redskins announce that CB Chris Culliver is suspended 1 game for a violation of @NFL personal conduct policy.

Ian Rapport

Efff me sh*t bastard f*cktard

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[quote=Chico23231;1120685]The #Redskins announce that CB Chris Culliver is suspended 1 game for a violation of @NFL personal conduct policy.

Ian Rapport

Efff me sh*t bastard f*cktard[/quote]

The good news is that Breeland is coming back, so as long as DHall can stay upright (*crossing fingers*) we should be okay.

The Skins are bringing in free agent CB Will Blackmon for a visit tomorrow though.

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I expected Scherff to do well, but goddamn Moses REALLY looked outstanding out there. That was such a bullshit penalty for driving his guy into the sideline. Feels nice to have someone "develop" and turn into something solid. Feel like we let way too many guys like that go. I hate a loss but I saw some true signs of potential.

I would have been happier if previously shitty teams like the Rams/Titans/etc. had lost. Makes me wonder how far we have to go.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1120686]The good news is that Breeland is coming back, so as long as DHall can stay upright (*crossing fingers*) we should be okay.

The Skins are bringing in free agent CB Will Blackmon for a visit tomorrow though.[/quote]

Amerson....i gotta feeling it could be over.

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Ugh. So Suh can kick Alfred in the head and poke Moses in the eye and nothing happens. What did Culliver do?

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The fuck is this??

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/9/14/9326189/cb-chris-culliver-suspended-sunday-against-st-louis]CB Chris Culliver Suspended Sunday Against St. Louis - Hogs Haven[/url]


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[quote=calia;1120690]Ugh. So Suh can kick Alfred in the head and poke Moses in the eye and nothing happens. What did Culliver do?[/quote]

gangsta sh*t that 49ers do: [url=http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/49ers-Culliver-arrested-on-hit-run-5358551.php]49ers' Culliver arrested on hit-run, brass-knuckle charges - SFGate[/url]

+1 for the brass knuckles...love the old skool