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I completely understand the wide range of pessimism with regard to this upcoming game with STL, and for that matter the entire season. After all, and I think someone on here said this to some degree, until they start actually winning it’s hard to get on board with a positive outlook. However, I am cautiously optimistic about this game and the season, just based on the small sample size of one game vs a very good Miami team – a team that some have picked to overtake the Patriots in that division. Whether you buy into that scenario or not, they are still a very good team, and the Redskins played right with them, even dominated early – ultimately to lose due to (in my opinion) excessive and untimely penalties, special teams, and perhaps some overly conservative tendencies.

I think if they can get the same O-line play, not give up the big play on ST (maybe even make one of their own), and take some shots down the field – they simply win, by more than a TD.

If not, then they have little chance.

I for one hope Ross or Crowder has a big game.

:twocents:

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my problem with getting optimistic is the penalties. If we had played the miami game, and lost because of the 1 ST blunder, I would be more encouraged. But penalties don't just go away, and this coaching staff hasn't shown that they can clean those up.

Penalties alone will cost us games even against teams that we otherwise would have beaten (captain obvious agrees with this statement)

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[quote=skinsfan69;1121164]Playoffs??? Yeah I think we just really need to try and win a game. Doubt we'll beat the Giants next Thursday. Can't go 0-3. Would like to see more from the coaching staff this week. [B]Try and gain a possession with a fake punt, push the ball down field a little more too. [/B]Just need to be more aggressive overall.[/quote]

That is the only way you are going to beat teams that are man to man more talented than you, other than a few lucky bounces. Like the surprise onside kick to start the second half in SB44, that took guts and swung the momentum.
Nothing I hate more than the conservative approach against a superior opponent. Right now after beating last year's NFC Champion last week, the Rams are the superior team.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1121167]my problem with getting optimistic is the penalties. If we had played the miami game, and lost because of the 1 ST blunder, I would be more encouraged. But penalties don't just go away, and this coaching staff hasn't shown that they can clean those up.

Penalties alone will cost us games even against teams that we otherwise would have beaten (captain obvious agrees with this statement)[/quote]

Penalties were the biggest killer last week imo. That one drive I think we had 4-5 consecutive penalties. Drive killers.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1121168]That is the only way you are going to beat teams that are man to man more talented than you, other than a few lucky bounces. Like the surprise onside kick to start the second half in SB44, that took guts and swung the momentum.
Nothing I hate more than the conservative approach against a superior opponent. Right now after beating last year's NFC Champion last week, the Rams are the superior team.[/quote]

Beating last year's NFC Champion last week shows that the Rams were superior to the Seahawks in week 1, at home, in overtime.

That is all.

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Guys seriously we aren't a playoff team lol not even close. We don't have enough talent to be right now. QB situation is shaky. Injuries and a ? Secondary still. I'd be happy with 7 wins

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[quote=RedskinJake;1121158]Comment from the Rams forum.. Seems like they are more optimistic about the Redskins than a few of you guys..[/quote]
They don't realize Andre Roberts has hands like Jason Pierre Paul.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1121168][B]That is the only way you are going to beat teams that are man to man more talented than you[/B], other than a few lucky bounces. Like the surprise onside kick to start the second half in SB44, that took guts and swung the momentum.
Nothing I hate more than the conservative approach against a superior opponent. Right now after beating last year's NFC Champion last week, the Rams are the superior team.[/quote]

There are no superior teams in the NFL. Any and every team can be beaten. We can win this game if we execute our schemes and remain discipline. The reason why we loss this week didn't have anything to do with talent. It was a matter of poor play calling, poor execution, and lack of discipline. To win this game the coaches have to be more aggressive. If they coach scared how can we expect our team to every progress? When coaches are being aggressive and trusting our players they have to execute. This team has the talent to beat the Rams. We just have to go out there and do it.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1121167]my problem with getting optimistic is the penalties. If we had played the miami game, and lost because of the 1 ST blunder, I would be more encouraged. But penalties don't just go away, and this coaching staff hasn't shown that they can clean those up.

Penalties alone will cost us games even against teams that we otherwise would have beaten (captain obvious agrees with this statement)[/quote]

About 5 of those calls were absolute BS. Better refereeing will take care of some of their penalty problems.

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[quote=44Deezel;1121176]About 5 of those calls were absolute BS. Better refereeing will take care of some of their penalty problems.[/quote]

I don't think I've.seen.that happen in the last fucking.decade... The refs are god.awful across the league, but.seem to.screw us especially. And... Ironically enough help the.cowboys win games, especially. Smfh

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I thought we had a chance last week, dolphins are overrated.

I don't think we have a chance this Sunday. Maybe being competitive is step in right direction.

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[quote=kingj;1121180]I thought we had a chance last week, dolphins are overrated.

I don't think we have a chance this Sunday. Maybe being competitive is step in right direction.[/quote]

That's the sad part. The Skins could be much improved, but it might not translate into wins. They may go from getting blown out last year to being competitive but still losing. That might be what progress looks like this year, unfortunately.

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The Rams are in the same category as the Dolphins to me. Not sure when they became world beaters or anything. The Skins are capable of winning this one.

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[quote=Meks;1121179]I don't think I've.seen.that happen in the last fucking.decade... The refs are god.awful across the league, but.seem to.screw us especially. And... Ironically enough help the.cowboys win games, especially. Smfh[/quote]

Really? First why does it seem a lot of fans think the refs are screwing their team? I am sure you realize most calls are made once at full speed at field level, not watching a slow motion reply shot from above field level that
you see sitting on your couch. Also we have 7 average Joes watching 22
very fast and or large men at field level (Lots of obstructed views). Refs are graded weekly if anyone was showing bias they would be suspended
and or fired quickly. It is a well paying part time job so they get the cream of the crop. I refereed HS passing league games when playing college football. I was as big and fast as the guys I was officiating and it was 7 on 7 on a full
sized field. Plenty of times on PI calls I wish I could have watched a replay,
only the blatant ones are obvious. Some of those DBs are real sneaky how
they can tug on a jersey at the same time they block your view.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1121198]Really? First why does it seem a lot of fans think the refs are screwing their team? I am sure you realize most calls are made once at full speed at field level, not watching a slow motion reply shot from above field level that
you see sitting on your couch. Also we have 7 average Joes watching 22
very fast and or large men at field level (Lots of obstructed views). Refs are graded weekly if anyone was showing bias they would be suspended
and or fired quickly. It is a well paying part time job so they get the cream of the crop. I refereed HS passing league games when playing college football. I was as big and fast as the guys I was officiating and it was 7 on 7 on a full
sized field. Plenty of times on PI calls I wish I could have watched a replay,
only the blatant ones are obvious. Some of those DBs are real sneaky how
they can tug on a jersey at the same time they block your view.[/QUOTE]
One suggestion I heard was to hire refs from the college players that dont make the NFL. I am not sure that's a perfect solution but I don't think its a bad idea either.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1121174]There are no superior teams in the NFL. Any and every team can be beaten. We can win this game if we execute our schemes and remain discipline. The reason why we loss this week didn't have anything to do with talent. It was a matter of poor play calling, poor execution, and lack of discipline. To win this game the coaches have to be more aggressive. If they coach scared how can we expect our team to every progress? When coaches are being aggressive and trusting our players they have to execute. This team has the talent to beat the Rams. We just have to go out there and do it.[/quote]

I guess superior means something different to you than me. I would say the Patriots that have averaged 11 wins a year since 2000 are far superior to a Redskin team that has finished in last place more often than not in that time span and average 6 1/2 wins.

If you don't think the Redskins lack talent (especially depth) you must be taking your bathroom breaks when they have been covering kicks the last couple years. They are getting blocked, reacting slow and getting faked out
of their shoes. Nothing fixes those problems other than more talented players.

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Till we prove we can win a game I will not be picking us to win.We have a chance but we always find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot,it's been a steady pattern.I would not pick us to beat anybody at this point,not even Oakland.
We played well enough to win last week,but shoulda woulda coulda dont mean shit

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Redskins 24
Rams 17

Jamison Crowder with a game winning 74 yard PR TD in the most ironic way

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1121211]Redskins 24
Rams 17

Jamison Crowder with a game winning 74 yard PR TD in the most ironic way[/quote]

Only way Crowder gets a PR TD is if we trade him to the Rams and he plays against our ST.
I hope I'm wrong but I doubt anyone is concerned about the 2015 Training Camp Man Crush award winner.

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I guess we could hope for karma biting fisher in the ass.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1121201]I guess superior means something different to you than me. I would say the Patriots that have averaged 11 wins a year since 2000 are far superior to a Redskin team that has finished in last place more often than not in that time span and average 6 1/2 wins.

If you don't think the Redskins lack talent (especially depth) you must be taking your bathroom breaks when they have been covering kicks the last couple years. They are getting blocked, reacting slow and getting faked out
of their shoes. Nothing fixes those problems other than more talented players.[/quote]

Yes the Patriots have average 11 wins per season but they still beatable. Their defense can be exploit. They can be passed on and ran on. The Steelers proved that. Tom Brady can be pressured and their running game can be shut down. If the Patriots was truly a superior team this wouldn't be possible.

Of course we need more talent on this team. However that does mean we don't have any talent. Execution trumps talent any and every Sunday. The Patriots are a perfect examples of this. I actually bet anything that the Rams have way talent that the Patriots however they haven't been anywhere close the having their success.

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[quote=Mattyk;1121193]The Rams are in the same category as the Dolphins to me. Not sure when they became world beaters or anything. The Skins are capable of winning this one.[/quote]

But, but they beat the Seahawks! And they have a pass rush! Plus Jeff Fisher last year trolling us blah blah blah!

No, it's a very winnable game. Cousins has a quick release which should give us a good chance to get the ball out and make plays. I also think our defense has improved and the Rams offense isn't anything to panic about. We know Foles, we can get to him.

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[quote=Mattyk;1121193]The Rams are in the same category as the Dolphins to me. Not sure when they became world beaters or anything. The Skins are capable of winning this one.[/quote]

I kind of feel the same way. This is a winnable game.

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Of course it is, every game is "winnable." Doesn't mean the chances aren't low. :rolleyes:

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Rams offense is actually worse than the Dolphins, they really don't have a playmaker. Their defensive front seven is significantly better than the fins and possibly the NFLs best, but their secondary is nothing to write home about. If Kirk gets rid of it quick, we should be in the game because we'll finally have good field position with our D against their O and our new kicker getting touch backs.

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I really hope our ST takes care of business..I don't want us to give up a td return every week. With Austin returning for them.......I'm worried about it.

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Wrong thread.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1121083]Respectfully disagree.

We can beat them.

This is a different team than last year.[/quote]
YOU are wise........