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[quote=ethat001;1121766]It's a trap game, for sure. Giants usually play us well, and we have underperformed in primetime recently (which is why we have very few primetime games now).

However, the past two games were pretty consistent for us. Good D, Good run game, O+Dlines playing well, and a QB managing the game. The Giants currently are ranked #31 in defense and we're -- #1. If we just play like we've been playing, and get some good QB play -- we may be more competitive in years past.

Will be fun to watch, first time I can say that in a while..[/quote]

To be fair we have under-performed in every game. This feels like a new team and Thursday will either prove that or disprove it. We have a real chance to put our foot on the throat of a team that has had our number for years and take control of this division and announce to the NFL that we have arrived and while we are not winning the SuperBowl we are not the easy check mark on your schedule anymore.

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By splitting carries with Mo/Jo keeps them much fresher for the short turn around vs the Giants.

Hey look at this:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/position/defense]2015 NFL Team Total Stats - National Football League - ESPN[/url]

Boom BITCH!


13.5 pts per game?

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1122082]By splitting carries with Mo/Jo keeps them much fresher for the short turn around vs the Giants.



Hey look at this:



[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/position/defense]2015 NFL Team Total Stats - National Football League - ESPN[/url]



Boom BITCH!





13.5 pts per game?[/QUOTE]


I know we got a couple of pieces to the D, but career idiot Jim Haslett is addition by subtraction! Consulting at Penn State - no wonder Temple finally beat them.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1122039]We were ranked number 1 last year after beating the jags. 1-1 was our record. Now this feels different though...[/quote]

after two weeks last year we had also played two horrible teams, this year we played two teams expected to make the playoffs.

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[quote=punch it in;1122084]I know we got a couple of pieces to the D, but career idiot Jim Haslett is addition by subtraction! Consulting at Penn State - no wonder Temple finally beat them.[/quote]

yup...plus the addition of Pot Roast, Paea, and a healthy Hatcher. Goldson at Free Safety has been a win so far as well....a little unsung imo. Culliver at CB will help against Odell this weekend.

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Its actually 10 pts. per game that the D gave up. 7 pts. in the Miami game was from ST.


[quote=Chico23231;1122082]By splitting carries with Mo/Jo keeps them much fresher for the short turn around vs the Giants.

Hey look at this:

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/position/defense]2015 NFL Team Total Stats - National Football League - ESPN[/url]

Boom BITCH!


13.5 pts per game?[/quote]

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Another thing that's been key: not missing assignments. We've had a breakdown here and there, but it seems this year that people are where they're supposed to be.

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Another key addition has been Perry Fewell, he's a like having a second DC out there, plus he's very familiar with the Giants.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1122090]Another key addition has been Perry Fewell, he's a like having a second DC out there, plus he's very familiar with the Giants.[/QUOTE]


Good point. Forgot about that. Should definitely help on Thursday. HTTR!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1122090]Another key addition has been Perry Fewell, he's a like having a second DC out there, plus he's very familiar with the Giants.[/quote]

Good point. Fewell was another solid hire; I know he looking forward to this game.

I think its freakin hilarious Spags is back with the Giants

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000536502/article/giants-release-wr-preston-parker-sign-kenrick-ellis]Giants release WR Preston Parker, sign Kenrick Ellis - NFL.com[/url]

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Giants coach Tom Coughlin said the team will be "very conservative" with LT Ereck Flowers (ankle).

Flowers will not practice Tuesday and it sounds like he will miss Thursday night's game against the Redskins. Justin Pugh will move from right guard to left tackle with Flowers sidelined. John Jerry will get the nod at right guard.
per Jordan Raanan on Twitter

Ah shucks, thats too bad.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1122090]Another key addition has been Perry Fewell, he's a like having a second DC out there, plus he's very familiar with the Giants.[/quote]

Another thing flying under the radar about Fewell that benefitted the Redskins was - he was on the other side of the Cousins terrible performance against the Giants last season. He was probably able to give some feedback with his perspective to be able to correct some things with Cousins, especially with his interceptions.

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I will go ape shit if we beat the Giants Thursday.

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Skins should have no issues with the giants Oline we literally should get 3 or 4 sacks. I honestly don't see us losing this game and I'd be disappointed if we did. We are overall the better team. Yeah they have Odell but that's really it.
23 17 skins.

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I think the Skins secondary is facing their first real test.

With Culliver back and Breeland getting his feet wet, our secondary is about complete as it has been just 2 weeks in, sans Mr. Ihenacho.

Good litmus test for us. Good litmus test for the Giants as well.

Hopefully Fewell's experience will be the tipping point in our favor.

whats the line - pick em or home team favored by 3?

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My biggest concern vs. the Giants is Special Teams. It's the Redskins biggest weakness and Coughlin has always taken pride and focused on Special Teams play.

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Giants are favored by 3 by the oddsmakers... trying to find reasons why. The only reasons I can find are Special Teams and the Giants are desperate at 0-2.

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I'm probably exaggerating things, but I think this is a make or break game for the Redskins. They have a lot of stake riding on this game. A win against a tough divisional opponent, on the road, and on national TV will make a strong statement that they can be the best team in the division and that they are not the old Redskins.

It seems that every year we have early successes and then come a key game like this and we always manage it to lose. I truly hope things are different and that this team is ready to play on the national stage and have the opportunity of taking the lead in the division and sinking an opponent.

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[url]www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hEYwk0bypY[/url]

As the great Muddy Waters said, we got to get our MOJO working

Giants really havent been tested on the ground with the pass first offenses of Atlanta and Dallas (both teams passed the ball over 45 times)...

Eli kinda rips us through the air...we have to be worried

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Martrell Spaight on IR (concussion). Man, our special teams seems cursed.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1122122]I'm probably exaggerating things, but I think this is a make or break game for the Redskins. They have a lot of stake riding on this game. A win against a tough divisional opponent, on the road, and on national TV will make a strong statement that they can be the best team in the division and that they are not the old Redskins.

It seems that every year we have early successes and then come a key game like this and we always manage it to lose. I truly hope things are different and that this team is ready to play on the national stage and have the opportunity of taking the lead in the division and sinking an opponent.[/quote]

I don't know about "make or break" for us at this point. Before the season I was struggling to find a game we could win, with how we've looked so far I have turned from pessimist to something better than that. I still have no expectation for the season in terms of the real goal of post-season play, but seem to have conned myself into believing we can win 8 games if all goes well.

And looking at the division, all of a sudden 8 wins may mean something after all. So there's that...

But we also need to remind ourselves that 6 wins would double our win total from last season, which would be significant progress. I guess I will continue to be safisfied with a competitive team that plays hard week in and week out.

Been a fan for 50 (!) years and am reduced to hoping for a six win season... Kinda sad.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1122121]Giants are favored by 3 by the oddsmakers... trying to find reasons why. The only reasons I can find are Special Teams and the Giants are desperate at 0-2.[/quote]

home team gets 3 points.

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[QUOTE=SCRedskinsFan;1122125]I don't know about "make or break" for us at this point. Before the season I was struggling to find a game we could win, with how we've looked so far I have turned from pessimist to something better than that. I still have no expectation for the season in terms of the real goal of post-season play, but seem to have conned myself into believing we can win 8 games if all goes well.



And looking at the division, all of a sudden 8 wins may mean something after all. So there's that...



But we also need to remind ourselves that 6 wins would double our win total from last season, which would be significant progress. I guess I will continue to be safisfied with a competitive team that plays hard week in and week out.



Been a fan for 50 (!) years and am reduced to hoping for a six win season... Kinda sad.[/QUOTE]


Two weeks ago looking at the schedule I thought 5 wins was a stretch. Now looking at the schedule 11 seems about rite. Thats how well our lines have played though, I just did not see that coming.

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Im not convinced this is the easy game some here are predicting. The Giants are 0-2 but its not like they got blown out. They were winning both games fairly late and choked them away. Early in the games, they actually looked pretty good.

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[QUOTE=Skinzman;1122135]Im not convinced this is the easy game some here are predicting. The Giants are 0-2 but its not like they got blown out. They were winning both games fairly late and choked them away. Early in the games, they actually looked pretty good.[/QUOTE]


They looked like crap against Dallas. Got those three turnovers or it would have been over before it was over. They did look good against Atlanta.

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[quote=punch it in;1122136]They looked like crap against Dallas. Got those three turnovers or it would have been over before it was over. They did look good against Atlanta.[/quote]

And maybe that's another reason why the Redskins are 3 point underdogs. The turnover edge. The Giants have been more opportunistic with turnovers.

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This is a winnable game - if we don't beat ourselves with turnovers and penalties. Sundays win was good for KC, I don't think he had an INT. Jones needs to show he isn't a tumbler because the Giants will be trying hard to force strips and fumbles.

Its also a big test for Gruden because last year he didn't have the team ready to play at all on Thursday night

Sent from my S6 Edge

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[quote=punch it in;1122130]Two weeks ago looking at the schedule I thought 5 wins was a stretch. Now looking at the schedule 11 seems about rite. Thats how well our lines have played though, I just did not see that coming.[/quote]

Oh I see, now you want to drink my kool aid :)

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[quote=That Guy;1122129]home team gets 3 points.[/quote]

Still... the real experts are from the betting/gambling industry. It's interesting to see from week to week how many they guess right, down to the point - even factoring in the 3 points.

While most NFL analysts from the media were picking the Rams last week to destroy the Redskins mainly because of the RAMS defensive line matchup with the Redskins- the Redskins were favored in the betting line.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1122140]This is a winnable game - if we don't beat ourselves with turnovers and penalties. Sundays win was good for KC, I don't think he had an INT. Jones needs to show he isn't a tumbler because the Giants will be trying hard to force strips and fumbles.

[B]Its also a big test for Gruden because last year he didn't have the team ready to play at all on Thursday night
[/B]
Sent from my S6 Edge[/quote]

Which is why I think the new coaches are huge. Callahan is among the best if not the best OL coach in the game. Anyone is an upgrade over Hazmat, he was just toxic (pun intended). Having Cavanaugh means he doesnt have to be tied to the QB's as much as he was last year. Gruden improving the coaching staff has already paid off, and hopefully, it will continue to do so.

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I'm [B]really[/B] looking forward to this game. Not only because it's primetime and all that but also because it's a great test. These are the games you either prove you're a new team with a new attitude who won't get pushed around anymore. Or you get pushed around on National Television for the whole country to see that, you're still the same team that gets pushed around.

For better or worse we should have a good idea of who this team is moving forward after this game.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1122141]Oh I see, now you want to drink my kool aid :)[/QUOTE]


Well it becomes less diluted after I see it on the field. Or more diluted.... Something.

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11 wins?? The Kool Aid is flowing!!!!

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And the injury curse strikes again:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Linebacker-Martrell-Spaight-Out-For-Season/9f48bd0e-8231-43b1-8695-7afa3dea8531?sf13360078=1]Linebacker Martrell Spaight Out For Season[/url]

Week 3: Redskins v Giants
 

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1122149]11 wins?? The Kool Aid is flowing!!!![/QUOTE]


It is - it is. But... The Eagles along with several other teams on our schedule suddenly do not appear so...formidable. At all.

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[quote=Meks;1122063]No safetys you say?
Hey, eli almost done .... We will give you Rg for Landon straight up....
Thanks.[/quote]


See ,things like this are why there is drug testing in America today .:)

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Redskins should win they are a pretty balanced team all around while the Giants have NO defense (none) ,the offense I believe will find their stride somewhere down the road I just don't think it will be this game.As I have always said strange things happen in NFC East games ,be it the Eli screw up in Dallas or the Chit fest that was the Eagles /Cowboys game something strange always happens.

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For the entire season? Lame.

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[quote=Giantone;1122164]Redskins should win they are a pretty balanced team all around while the Giants have NO defense (none) ,the offense I believe will find their stride somewhere down the road I just don't think it will be this game.As I have always said [B]strange things happen in NFC East games[/B] ,be it the Eli screw up in Dallas or the Chit fest that was the Eagles /Cowboys game something strange always happens.[/quote]

^^^^^^^