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[quote=JPPT1974;1143928]Yeah as really need to be creative over the name should it changed.[/quote]

The Burgundy and Gold. Same uniform; same logo.

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I'm glad the post did an independant poll, it needed to be done. I couldn't really listen to people on either side talk about it, because it was hard to trust the information. Mike Wise always is such a contrarian on everything for example.

Hopefully no one lets Snyder off the hook for anything, the guy buys a backhoe for a tribe as soon as the name controversy starts up.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1143932]The Burgundy and Gold. Same uniform; same logo.[/quote]

Same name too

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Hey...things are looking up in keeping the Redskin name and trade mark

[U][url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/19/politics/supreme-court-redskins/index.html]Supreme Court strikes down law blocking disparaging trademarks - CNNPolitics.com[/url][/U]

Washington (CNN)The Supreme Court struck down part of a federal law that denies trademark protection of terms that disparage living or dead.

The ruling could benefit the NFL's Washington Redskins, whose trademark was canceled based on the same law in a separate proceeding.
"Holding that the registration of a trademark converts the mark into government speech would constitute a huge and dangerous extension of the government-speech doctrine, for other systems of government registration (such as copyright) could easily be characterized in the same way," Justice Samuel Alito wrote in the majority opinion.

"The commercial market is well stocked with merchandise that disparages prominent figures and groups, and the line between commercial and non-commercial speech is not always clear, as this case illustrates," Alito added. "If affixing the commercial label permits the suppression of any speech that may lead to political or social 'volatility,' free speech would be endangered."
The case at hand involves Simon Tam, an Asian-American musician and political activist who named his rock band "The Slants" in an attempt to take back a term that once directed as an insult. He sought to register the name with the trademark office.
The request was denied on the ground that it is disparaging to "persons of Asian descent."

But it has wider impact.
"The case also has obvious implications for the similar dispute involving the Washington Redskins, who had their trademark canceled under the same statute and theory that the justices invalidated today," said Steve Vladeck, CNN legal analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of law. "It should now follow that their trademark also should not have been invalidated."

The Washington Redskins Attorney Lisa Blatt said the team was "thrilled" with the decision.

"The Team is thrilled with today's unanimous decision as it resolves the Redskins' long-standing dispute with the government," she told CNN in a statement. "The Supreme Court vindicated the Team's position that the First Amendment blocks the government from denying or canceling a trademark registration based on the government's opinion."


[I] Hail to the Redskins![/I]

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[quote=Bangee7;1170997]Hey...things are looking up in keeping the Redskin name and trade mark

[U][url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/19/politics/supreme-court-redskins/index.html]Supreme Court strikes down law blocking disparaging trademarks - CNNPolitics.com[/url][/U]

Washington (CNN)The Supreme Court struck down part of a federal law that denies trademark protection of terms that disparage living or dead.

The ruling could benefit the NFL's Washington Redskins, whose trademark was canceled based on the same law in a separate proceeding.
"Holding that the registration of a trademark converts the mark into government speech would constitute a huge and dangerous extension of the government-speech doctrine, for other systems of government registration (such as copyright) could easily be characterized in the same way," Justice Samuel Alito wrote in the majority opinion.

"The commercial market is well stocked with merchandise that disparages prominent figures and groups, and the line between commercial and non-commercial speech is not always clear, as this case illustrates," Alito added. "If affixing the commercial label permits the suppression of any speech that may lead to political or social 'volatility,' free speech would be endangered."
The case at hand involves Simon Tam, an Asian-American musician and political activist who named his rock band "The Slants" in an attempt to take back a term that once directed as an insult. He sought to register the name with the trademark office.
The request was denied on the ground that it is disparaging to "persons of Asian descent."

But it has wider impact.
"The case also has obvious implications for the similar dispute involving the Washington Redskins, who had their trademark canceled under the same statute and theory that the justices invalidated today," said Steve Vladeck, CNN legal analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of law. "It should now follow that their trademark also should not have been invalidated."

The Washington Redskins Attorney Lisa Blatt said the team was "thrilled" with the decision.

"The Team is thrilled with today's unanimous decision as it resolves the Redskins' long-standing dispute with the government," she told CNN in a statement. "The Supreme Court vindicated the Team's position that the First Amendment blocks the government from denying or canceling a trademark registration based on the government's opinion."


[I] Hail to the Redskins![/I][/quote]

I saw that. Fuck you Costas, Peter King, Obama, Olbermann and all other Douchebags that wanted a name change. HTTR FOREVER!!!

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1170998]I saw that. Fuck you Costas, Peter King, Obama, Olbermann and all other Douchebags that wanted a name change. HTTR FOREVER!!![/QUOTE]Yes! That and This! [emoji106]

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I was on NFL.coms home page and I didn't see a reference to the SCOTUS ruling anywhere. No way there is anything more important that happened nfl related today, let alone 30 things. Maybe it was up earlier, what a joke it's either already down or somehow didn't make it up.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1171002]I was on NFL.coms home page and I didn't see a reference to the SCOTUS ruling anywhere. No way there is anything more important that happened nfl related today, let alone 30 things. Maybe it was up earlier, what a joke it's either already down or somehow didn't make it up.[/quote]

Well the [URL="http://www.redskins.com/news/all-news.html"]Redskins News site[/URL] doesn't have anything on it either.

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time for rich white elitists to move on to something else. The people who love and appreciate freedom won this one.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1171003]Well the [URL="http://www.redskins.com/news/all-news.html"]Redskins News site[/URL] doesn't have anything on it either.[/quote]

That site is part of the NFL network. No surprise or coincidence there. It's an absolute joke.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1171005]That site is part of the NFL network. No surprise or coincidence there. It's an absolute joke.[/quote]

Nope, that's the Redskins website, which is owned by the team.

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[quote=Chico23231;1171004]time for rich white elitists to move on to something else. The people who love and appreciate freedom won this one.[/quote]

I agree, unfortunately they'll just move on to some other fake cause that'll piss me off just as much.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1171006]Nope, that's the Redskins website, which is owned by the team.[/quote]

I'd have to look into that. I'd have to believe the league has a say as to what goes on teams official sites. Otherwise, whoever runs the site is just an idiot. This issue is probably one of the nearest and dearest to a lot of Skins fans. Makes no sense to just act like the ruling didn't happen.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1171008]I'd have to look into that. I'd have to believe the league has a say as to what goes on teams official sites. Otherwise, whoever runs the site is just an idiot. This issue is probably one of the nearest and dearest to a lot of Skins fans. Makes no sense to just act like the ruling didn't happen.[/quote]

Here you go: [url=http://www.redskins.com/footer/privacy-policy.html]Redskins.com | Privacy Policy[/url]

Don't see anything here about the site being operated by the NFL.

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mike asshole wise was on espn talking was on espn yesterday and this am talking crap about the redskins and how awful and vuglar we are for not calling for the name to change.only meaningful thing he has done in his life is say bad things about the redskins.

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The Supreme Court's ruling was a huge win for free speech. From the decision:

“A bedrock First Amendment principle: Speech may not be banned on the ground that it expresses ideas that offend.” Matal v. Tam, No. 15-1293, 2017 WL 2621315, at *5 (U.S. June 19, 2017).

The Justices were 8-0 on this. Ginsburg, Sotomayer and the others on the justices on the left reaffirmed this fundamental principle of democracy. Big blow to tyrannical SJW's and thought police everywhere.

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[quote=insane4theskinsi;1171010]mike asshole wise was on espn talking was on espn yesterday talking crap about the redskins and how awful and vuglar we are for not calling for the name to change.[/quote]

He is entitled to his offensive opinion and may freely state it - hell, according to the Supreme Court, he can even trademark it.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1171009]Here you go: [url=http://www.redskins.com/footer/privacy-policy.html]Redskins.com | Privacy Policy[/url]

Don't see anything here about the site being operated by the NFL.[/quote]

If you're right, and it looks like you are, why would the site not cover this story? It makes no sense to me whatsoever. That decison was a big deal for the team and the country in general.

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The NFL is going to give this a wide berth and go all out to avoid dipping their toes in that pond. They are keeping out of this court of public opinion (for once) and letting Washington fight the battle.

I believe if the NFL really wanted to force any suggestion for a name change 'for the collective good of the league' there are avenues they could have taken already. Like not selling the merchandise in the NFL store, removing link references to the team website etc etc etc.

The silence of the NFL on this really speaks volumes of their indifference to the whole thing.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1171013]If you're right, and it looks like you are, why would the site not cover this story? It makes no sense to me whatsoever. That decison was a big deal for the team and the country in general.[/quote]

I would imagine that the team wants this to become a non-issue, which at this point it is very likely to happen. Best way to make it a non-issue is to not talk about it. Although Snyder did put in a statement about the ruling if I am not mistaken.

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If mike wise is on your computer or phone or tv, make it so he isnt. Out of site out of mind. Hes on my Peter King level of full avoidance.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1171015]I would imagine that the team wants this to become a non-issue, which at this point it is very likely to happen. Best way to make it a non-issue is to not talk about it. Although Snyder did put in a statement about the ruling if I am not mistaken.[/quote]

Snyder has talked publicly about it for years which makes it even more weird its not on the team site. Oh well, I'll take the decision and reading about it somewhere else.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1171012]He is entitled to his offensive opinion and may freely state it - hell, according to the Supreme Court, he can even trademark it.[/quote]

:food-smil

hilarity...


Mike Wise...very tired act.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1171011]The Supreme Court's ruling was a huge win for free speech. From the decision:

“A bedrock First Amendment principle: Speech may not be banned on the ground that it expresses ideas that offend.” Matal v. Tam, No. 15-1293, 2017 WL 2621315, at *5 (U.S. June 19, 2017).

The Justices were 8-0 on this. Ginsburg, Sotomayer and the others on the justices on the left reaffirmed this fundamental principle of democracy. Big blow to tyrannical SJW's and thought police everywhere.[/quote]


It was nice to see the court in total agreement on this. It takes the whole political aspect of it and throws it right out the window,at least in my opinion.

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Political correctness just ate a big bowl of dicks.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1171023]Political correctness just ate a big bowl of dicks.[/quote]

Now they should rescind the mascot issue on some states. Fuck all this political pussy correctness.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1171023]Political correctness just ate a big bowl of dicks.[/quote]
:rofl::rofl::food-smil

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1171012]He is entitled to his offensive opinion and may freely state it - hell, according to the Supreme Court, he can even trademark it.[/quote]

still a mutating pile of blowfish shit.

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[quote=metalskins;1138591]Fuck political correctness.[/quote]

This still applies! Hail to the justice system! Hail to the Redskins! Put this thing to bed once and for all!

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[quote=HailGreen28;1133906]The name "redskins" wasn't a slur when it originated. It's not used that way now by Washington fans.

It was used as a slur by novelists and later movie studios, some copyright holders in the "entertainment industry" thereof probably still having deep pockets?

So why not go after the people who profited from using the name as an insult, rather than the fans cheering FOR the Redskins today?[/quote]

It was...over 200 years ago. Just like the words Vikings and Yankees were. During the Holocaust rainbows were used to mark gay and homosexual prisoners and was meant as an insult. Now the rainbow symbol is used as a badge of pride and honour among the crowd who uses it. In this day and age none of those words or symbols are seen as insults.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/2017/06/29/a26f52f0-5cf6-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html?utm_term=.cf5989a5a1a9#comments[/url]

Washington Redskins win trademark fight over the team’s name

Freedom wins

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[quote=Chico23231;1171247][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/2017/06/29/a26f52f0-5cf6-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html?utm_term=.cf5989a5a1a9#comments[/url]

Washington Redskins win trademark fight over the team’s name

Freedom wins[/quote]

Fake news!!!!











LOL, just messin with ya.:D

Congratulations!

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[quote=Chico23231;1171247][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/2017/06/29/a26f52f0-5cf6-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html?utm_term=.cf5989a5a1a9#comments[/url]

Washington Redskins win trademark fight over the team’s name

Freedom wins[/quote]

Now it's official....Hail to the mother loving REDSKINS !

I love watching all those pansy-ass bitches try to keep from using the name.

Redskins, Redskins, Redskins...rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRedskins !

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[quote=Giantone;1171248]Fake news!!!!











LOL, just messin with ya.:D

Congratulations![/quote]

No, fake news would be this headline:

"Giants owner O'Meara had NOTHING to do with Skins Salary Cap Penalties"










but yes, nice to see that the adults are back in charge and the Redskins are OK to cheer for.

ps. Just havin some fun with ya....

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this has been a hoax anyway. They have no intention of changing the name. All the historical stories have been made up. Its the govt just giving itself busy work for the hell of it. Nothing is/was ever going to change

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Sorry to pop this thread up, but I found this article about a Washington State High School whose mascot's name is... the Redskins:

[url]https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/redskins-controversy-high-school-with-debated-name-just-wants-to-be-left-alone/[/url]

The majority of people living in this town are Native Americans, and they don't think the name is offensive.

Not being American, it's hard for me to get an opinion on this matter, so I found this article interesting because it's written by someone who thinks the Redskins' name is offensive... but is forced to admit it is not to some of the only ones it should (or shouldn't) offend.

Here are some interesting parts:


-"Take Clarence Le Bret, who at 90 says he’s the oldest male tribal member in town. Controversy, what controversy, he says. “It’s the traditional name we always had.”"

-"Here, the kids have their “Wellpinit Redskins” T-shirts and sweatshirts they wear to games or Spirit Week. At games, they chant, “[B]Redskin Power[/B]!”
Says Kyra Antone, 17, who’s going into 12th grade and is wearing one of the T-shirts, “[B]It’s not a negative name for us.[/B] Whenever I think of Redskins, I think of [B]pride[/B] in our sports teams. There’s nothing wrong with being a 17-year-old Native American.”"

-"[U]That the term is derived from the blood from the scalp of a Native American is in dispute[/U], as is often the case with what is and isn’t historically provable.
Ives Goddard, emeritus senior linguist at the Smithsonian Institution’s Department of Anthropology, in 2005 wrote a research paper on the term.
He says the assertion became popularized when American Indian rights activist Suzan Harjo said it on the “Oprah Winfrey Show” in 1992.
“[B]There wasn’t anything to support the connection[/B],” says Goddard. “But that’s what everybody now thinks.”
In fact, he says, [B]it was Indians who first came up with the term[/B] when the whites showed up in this continent: “You guys are white, we are red.” It became derogatory in later usage, he says.""

-"Let the East Coast fester in the Redskins name controversy.
Says Ford, “[B]I use the name proudly. I wear it with respect[/B].”"

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I think there's some southwest US states with reservations that use the name too. It's just that story isn't as interesting as a small percentage of Native Americans calling us racists.

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My understanding is that the term Redskins actually derived from the tradition of using red war paint prior to going into battle. The Celts did similar marking themselves with blue dye. Would a team with a Celtic warrior named the Blueskins be offensive?

I do love how PC snowflakes feel the need to take up for a group that largely views the entire name thing as a non-issue. Numerous polls have been done among Native American groups and as a whole they have no issue with the name.

My HS are the Redskins and fortunately they haven’t caved yet. My college are the Bullets, some even think that’s offensive. We’ve gotten to the point you can’t say or do anything without hurting someone’s inner child.

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I don't believe I've ever heard anyone use the term "redskin" as a racial slur against Native Americans. I have, however, heard some idiots use the term "chief" that way.

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[quote=Eagles1;1194412]My understanding is that the term Redskins actually derived from the tradition of using red war paint prior to going into battle. The Celts did similar marking themselves with blue dye. Would a team with a Celtic warrior named the Blueskins be offensive?

I do love how PC snowflakes feel the need to take up for a group that largely views the entire name thing as a non-issue. Numerous polls have been done among Native American groups and as a whole they have no issue with the name.

My HS are the Redskins and fortunately they haven’t caved yet. My college are the Bullets, some even think that’s offensive. We’ve gotten to the point you can’t say or do anything without hurting someone’s inner child.[/quote]

[url]https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/redskin[/url]