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JoeRedskin 01-11-2016 01:08 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
Also, quick aside, since 1970, we have never picked in the 21st slot.

SFREDSKIN 01-11-2016 01:09 PM

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Gallette will be back, check his arm.

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kingj 01-11-2016 01:10 PM

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Still believe gruden is in over his head...just the adjustments or lack thereof as many have stated is probably biggest issue. The team did well to build leads but then we would always see dicey moments where game was in the balance which is not good when leading by 2 or 3 scores.

For better or worse, he is now joined at the hip with cousins. Very possible that both are here in 2 years or both gone.

Still not sold on gruden.

Chico23231 01-11-2016 01:16 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137210]I'm surprised we didn't take more advantage of their passing D. They struggled with coverage in the middle and definitely didn't have the speed to cover DJax. But our line didn't hold up as well as it has against lesser lines (no that's not really shocking). Let's remember KC still posted a 300+ game. (not deducting the 59 yds of sacks), and a 91.7 passer rating.[/quote]

I get it, but look at Aaron Rodgers numbers...efficient and they put the game away running the ball.

You need offensive balance in the playoffs. When Green Bay runs the ball they go from good to great team.

Ill take Rogers numbers, lacy numbers and the W.

Chico23231 01-11-2016 01:20 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1137213]Gallette will be back, check his arm.

[url=http://es.pn/1P3xzam]ESPN: The Worldwide Leader in Sports[/url][/quote]

Gallette comes back and Hatcher retires/cut, don't be surprised to see Preston Smith with his hand on the ground more often.

CRedskinsRule 01-11-2016 01:28 PM

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RG3 left a note on his locker

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYcuDJGWkAAfdts.jpg[/IMG]

a bit of a shame that he had to make one last statement after handling this season so well.

CRedskinsRule 01-11-2016 01:30 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=kingj;1137214]Still believe gruden is in over his head...just the adjustments or lack thereof as many have stated is probably biggest issue. The team did well to build leads but then we would always see dicey moments where game was in the balance which is not good when leading by 2 or 3 scores.

For better or worse, he is now joined at the hip with cousins. Very possible that both are here in 2 years or both gone.

Still not sold on gruden.[/quote]

To be fair, if we get a stronger defense, and the offense comes in like it has been, then we ought to win a heckuva lot more games.

CRedskinsRule 01-11-2016 01:31 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Chico23231;1137215]I get it, but look at Aaron Rodgers numbers...efficient and they put the game away running the ball.

You need offensive balance in the playoffs. When Green Bay runs the ball they go from good to great team.

Ill take Rogers numbers, lacy numbers and the W.[/quote]

If we go up 16-0, and the defense held, I promise Alf's numbers would have gone up. In fact, one more offensive TD would have changed the whole nature of the game, but it didn't happen.

mredskins 01-11-2016 01:32 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137219]RG3 left a note on his locker

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYcuDJGWkAAfdts.jpg[/IMG]

a bit of a shame that he had to make one last statement after handling this season so well.[/quote]
Why? Nothing wrong with that note. Some sound advice on there.

calia 01-11-2016 01:33 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137219]RG3 left a note on his locker

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYcuDJGWkAAfdts.jpg[/IMG]

a bit of a shame that he had to make one last statement after handling this season so well.[/quote]

Per Keim, he had this in his locker all season. A little passive aggressive to leave it behind, sure, but it isn't like he left a flaming bag of turd in his locker.

I wish RGIII well. The last half of 2012 was incredibly fun (destroying the 'Boys on Thanksgiving made that, well, pretty much the best Thanksgiving ever). Would love to see him resurrect his career someplace (not in the NFC East).

Redskins247 01-11-2016 01:34 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137219]RG3 left a note on his locker

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYcuDJGWkAAfdts.jpg[/IMG]

a bit of a shame that he had to make one last statement after handling this season so well.[/quote]

He did handle the season and his place in it well. But I think this is the first of a LOT more to come from him. He will begin talking quite a bit more in the next couple of months.

kingj 01-11-2016 01:35 PM

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Guys are backing him up so wouldn't really put much into it...rg3 was classy all year.

Here is a tweet from Keenan Robinson with pic of quote:

1 of many reasons @RGIII's career is far from over. He handled his situation with professionalism and class #Respect

calia 01-11-2016 01:39 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137221]To be fair, if we get a stronger defense, and the offense comes in like it has been, then we ought to win a heckuva lot more games.[/quote]

No question that our D held us back this year (and yesterday). Not being able to stop the run (still perplexed about that given Baker, Hatcher, and Knighton up front -- do we really miss Paea that much?). I think part of it is that Foster and Compton have been good, but run stuffing isn't necessarily their strength. We need a little more help/depth inside.

Safety is a big need too, and CB. For the first time in forever, it seems like we're only a handful of players away from being a very good team -- G/C, S, ILB, and CB -- additions to add to what we have now. But we seem set at QB, WR, RB (I think our guys bounce back next year with better run blocking, and RBs aren't impossible to find), T, OLB, K, P, PR, KR, and TE (assuming Paul back healthy).

Redskins_P 01-11-2016 01:41 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
1. Re-sign Kirk Cousins.
2. Improve interior line (LG, C).
3. Improve D-line (Replace Hatcher, re-sign Knighton but he has to get in better shape).
4. Hoping that Garcon & DJax will restructure their deals.
5. More Secondary depth
6. Draft a blocking TE

BaltimoreSkins 01-11-2016 01:46 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137208][B]I think this staff comes into games really well prepared, but definitely in game adjustments are lacking.[/B] I don't really know whether that is a game skill that can be learned.[/quote]

I think it has mostly to do with the personnel. As some have posted the Skins have some holes to fill to make them a quality team.

Defensewins 01-11-2016 02:03 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137222]If we go up 16-0, and the defense held, I promise Alf's numbers would have gone up. In fact, one more offensive TD would have changed the whole nature of the game, but it didn't happen.[/quote]

I completely agree. I think the defense lost us this game.
We were not prepared for the hurry up offense. Why? I wonder if they concentrated on this at practice? Our defensive front 7 looked lost, tired and out of shape. Very frustrating to watch.
I heard Danny Kannell talk about when his former teams defense prepared for a good hurry up offense, they would run two scout team offenses (huddles) and they would run play after play back to back as quickly as possible. Even faster then a single hurry up offense would run plays. So that way their defense got used to an even faster pace then a single unit can do. He said after his defense practiced at that speed all week, the game day hurry up offense seemed slow by comparison and they kicked ass.
I would really like to know if the redskins defense prepared for the hurry up t all or like this?

Irrefutable 01-11-2016 02:22 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Redskins_P;1137228]1. Re-sign Kirk Cousins.
2. Improve interior line (LG, C).
3. Improve D-line (Replace Hatcher, re-sign Knighton but he has to get in better shape).
4. Hoping that Garcon & DJax will restructure their deals.
5. More Secondary depth
6. Draft a blocking TE[/quote]

that is a good start

3. I thought Knighton had a weight clause in his contract, do not resign him unless he loses 30+ pounds and keeps it off

7. running back

NoCalHail 01-11-2016 02:31 PM

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We label it "personnel issues" but Joe Berry not using some extra pass rushers last night was inexcusable. The Packers didn't have any threat to beat the defense over the top (consistently anyway) and even if they did that shouldn't stop you from sending a linebacker or two on obvious passing downs.

Allowing Rodgers to sit back and get comfortable was the biggest head-scratcher in the game. Maybe he would have burned the defense a few times. Big Deal, they put up 35 points regardless of trying to go vanilla. How much more points would they have had otherwise? Once Green Bay made an adjustment our coaches on defense straight up went limp or became deer in headlights as if they were out of options. It was frustrating to watch.

skinsfaninok 01-11-2016 02:36 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
Glad griff is gone, not a hater by any means but it's beyond time. On M&M this morning theo Riddick was on and he basically said the skins should be the favorites in the east next yr. I think it's going to be a better division but we will be better also.

skinsfaninok 01-11-2016 02:38 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[QUOTE=NoCalHail;1137237]We label it "personnel issues" but Joe Berry not using some extra pass rushers last night was inexcusable. The Packers didn't have any threat to beat the defense over the top (consistently anyway) and even if they did that shouldn't stop you from sending a linebacker or two on obvious passing downs.

Allowing Rodgers to sit back and get comfortable was the biggest head-scratcher in the game. Maybe he would have burned the defense a few times. Big Deal, they put up 35 points regardless of trying to go vanilla. How much more points would they have had otherwise? Once Green Bay made an adjustment our coaches on defense straight up went limp or became deer in headlights as if they were out of options. It was frustrating to watch.[/QUOTE]
To me he coached scared, if you have watched GB the last month teams have blitzed them and knocked 12 down all game. Vikings, cards, Denver etc. I understand we don't have a great secondary like AZ or den but cmon man at least take some shots. I will say he did a solid job for what he had this yr. We need more speed on d

mooby 01-11-2016 03:21 PM

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[quote=calia;1137224]Per Keim, he had this in his locker all season. A little passive aggressive to leave it behind, sure, but it isn't like he left a flaming bag of turd in his locker.

[B]I wish RGIII well. [/B] The last half of 2012 was incredibly fun (destroying the 'Boys on Thanksgiving made that, well, pretty much the best Thanksgiving ever). Would love to see him resurrect his career someplace (not in the NFC East).[/quote]

I agree. I'll always remember 2012 for the good times, and if KC is who we think he is, we will definitely forget the bad times. As long as he stays out of the NFC East I'm happy. But if he would rather go be a backup for the Cowboys instead of go to a place like Houston and compete for the chance to start then f him. I think he's smart enough to go somewhere where he's got a shot to start though. That won't happen in Dallas.

Bucket 01-11-2016 03:57 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Redskins_P;1137228]1. Re-sign Kirk Cousins.
2. Improve interior line (LG, C).
3. Improve D-line (Replace Hatcher, re-sign Knighton but he has to get in better shape).
4. Hoping that Garcon & DJax will restructure their deals.
5. More Secondary depth
6. Draft a blocking TE[/quote]

I dont think we need to draft a blocking TE. I think we need to continue focusing on the scheme we've used the past 6 weeks. Spread game and exposing mismatches aka NE style.

jamf 01-11-2016 04:03 PM

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[quote=Bucket;1137247]I dont think we need to draft a blocking TE. I think we need to continue focusing on the scheme we've used the past 6 weeks. Spread game and exposing mismatches aka NE style.[/quote]

I disagree. Bringing in a reserve guard/Tackle to play TE limits play calling on short yardage plays.
I hope we don't see Reed, Paul and Paulson together next year. I would like to see a big TE in the mix.

REDSKINS4ever 01-11-2016 04:06 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Redskins_P;1137228]1. Re-sign Kirk Cousins.
2. Improve interior line (LG, C).
3. Improve D-line (Replace Hatcher, re-sign Knighton but he has to get in better shape).
4. Hoping that Garcon & DJax will restructure their deals.
5. More Secondary depth
6. Draft a blocking TE[/quote]

Charlie Casserly said that the Redskins need better corners.....the coverage in the secondary could have been better....maybe McCloughan drafts a cornerback and trades for another.... maybe Breeland and Culliver are not as shut down as they made out to be. Yesterday's game revealed that.

jamf 01-11-2016 04:10 PM

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Culliver has been banged up all year and we have money committed to him so he is going to start. I would prefer to see another corner added and move Breeland to the slot.


We need to get something out of punt returns. Crowder isn't cutting it. I feel like he is Randel El back there.

skinsfan69 01-11-2016 04:13 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=mooby;1137244]I agree. I'll always remember 2012 for the good times, and if KC is who we think he is, we will definitely forget the bad times. As long as he stays out of the NFC East I'm happy. But if he would rather go be a backup for the Cowboys instead of go to a place like Houston and compete for the chance to start then f him. I think he's smart enough to go somewhere where he's got a shot to start though. That won't happen in Dallas.[/quote]

Really could care less where he goes. If he's playing for Dallas then great. That means it improves our chance of winning. Wish the guy well and all, but I wouldn't be afraid of facing him twice a year.

punch it in 01-11-2016 04:23 PM

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[IMG]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/11/11d5926d6a70aa133792748f509ce4aa.jpg[/IMG]

Defensewins 01-11-2016 04:47 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1137252]Charlie Casserly said that the Redskins need better corners.....the coverage in the secondary could have been better....maybe McCloughan drafts a cornerback and trades for another.... maybe Breeland and [B]Culliver are not as shut down as they made out to be. Yesterday's game revealed that[/B].[/quote]

Yesterdays game? Culliver did not play in yesterdays game and has not played since the Carolina game on 11/22 due to injury.

Defensewins 01-11-2016 04:52 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Bucket;1137247]I dont think we need to draft a blocking TE. I think we need to continue focusing on the scheme we've used the past 6 weeks. Spread game and exposing mismatches aka NE style.[/quote]

We need t be more balanced. We need to run the ball more. We do not have a blocking TE on the roster worth a damn. Big blocking Te's that can also be a receiving threat are tough mismatch on defenses. Mark Bavaro - Rob Gronkowski type TE gives defenses fits.

skinsfan69 01-11-2016 05:03 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1137219]RG3 left a note on his locker

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYcuDJGWkAAfdts.jpg[/IMG]

a bit of a shame that he had to make one last statement after handling this season so well.[/quote]

RG3 is one weird dude.

Big C 01-11-2016 05:55 PM

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I really like the foundation we have here now with SM at GM. I think we need to add another piece on the O-line, then stock up on DBs. If Hatcher retires, then definitely a playmaking D-lineman. Work your magic Scott. High hopes for next year. At the very least we should push for another division title

MTK 01-11-2016 05:56 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Defensewins;1137263]Yesterdays game? Culliver did not play in yesterdays game and has not played since the Carolina game on 11/22 due to injury.[/quote]

Facts are overrated.

VTSkins1961 01-11-2016 05:57 PM

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RGIII will flourish in the right system. Most players who we think suck just aren't playing in a system that compliments their strengths. That being said Cousins is the QB for next couple of years at least....

MTK 01-11-2016 06:02 PM

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RGIII won't flourish until he masters the basics of playing from the pocket.

calia 01-11-2016 06:14 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Big C;1137267]I really like the foundation we have here now with SM at GM. I think we need to add another piece on the O-line, then stock up on DBs. If Hatcher retires, then definitely a playmaking D-lineman. Work your magic Scott. High hopes for next year. At the very least we should push for another division title[/quote]

Agreed. Better days? Yeah -- here's why: [url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Scot_McCloughan_Greets_Players_As_They_Leave_Field/3e6edc35-ab83-4fd9-9239-4ea272be9c1e]Scot McCloughan Greets Players As They Leave Field[/url]

Love this guy.

JoeRedskin 01-11-2016 06:47 PM

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Matching this year's record is going to be tough next year. We play lots of really good teams outside the division.

As yesterday's game showed, we have lots of holes - team speed on D, interior OL, RB, blocking TE. We need to beat good teams and that will be tough for this team. We are heading in the right direction though. We have a solid QB going forward and the makings of a good line - still a couple pieces short.

I would not be surprised if we go 8-8 next year but be a better team than this year.

DYoungJelly 01-11-2016 07:15 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1137086]Then we move on to a new QB, maybe draft one in the offseason or pickup someone in free agency (or both).

Cousins isn't so good that we need to worry about losing him.

Besides 1 year at 10 mil is a great deal[/quote]

Who should we go after?

Because we have this guy:

7th ranked QB: [url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2015[/url]

With the 32nd ranked rushing attack: [url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 OFFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS[/url]

And the 25th ranked defense: [url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2015 DEFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS[/url]

If he isn't that good, you should be able to list several names that are his equivalent that we could sign or draft?

You're obviously the smartest poster on here. Name names and prove it.

skinsfaninok 01-11-2016 07:16 PM

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I'm over rg3 thank God he's leaving. Yeah I like the guy and all but he's an attention whore

Kope 01-11-2016 07:18 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1137275]Matching this year's record is going to be tough next year. We play lots of really good teams outside the division.

As yesterday's game showed, we have lots of holes - team speed on D, interior OL, RB, blocking TE. We need to beat good teams and that will be tough for this team. We are heading in the right direction though. We have a solid QB going forward and the makings of a good line - still a couple pieces short.

I would not be surprised if we go 8-8 next year but be a better team than this year.[/quote]

This.

Expectations next year for record - somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7. However, I do expect us to be more competitive against the better teams in the league.

We still need a lot of work on the roster. Speed on defense and depth across the board.

That being said, I don't think it is far fetched to think in two years we could be a consistent 10 win team. Great year. Great nucleus. Great foundation.

Giantone 01-11-2016 07:27 PM

Re: Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1137278]I'm over rg3 thank God he's leaving. Yeah I like the guy and all but he's an attention whore[/quote]
??? I thought the guy handled everything very well with alot of class.


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