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[quote=skinsfan69;1142857]Both Ross and Roberts play teams. Grant does not. Grant isn't a good enough wr to JUST be a back up and not play teams. Seems like Grant has been here for a while and can never seems to take that next step. He seems like the one that will be gone.[/quote]

Why would we pay Roberts 4 million just to play teams?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1142856]Ross v. Grant will be a battle in camp this year - and it may be that the loser is fighting the rest of the roster to keep six WR's instead of five.

DJax, Garcon, Crowder, Doctson, Ross/Grant.

On the roster, only Ross provides the speed that DJax provides.[/quote]

Doc will play a lot IMO, maybe even start. Wouldn't be surprised.

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[QUOTE=redskinsfan1980;1142858]What about Garcon's lack of production?[/QUOTE]


72 catches and 6 TDs as the #2 receiving option is bad production?

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[quote=MTK;1142864]72 catches and 6 TDs as the #2 receiving option is bad production?[/quote]

Of course it is. We're paying him to be a number 1! If he's paid to be the top guy he should produce like the top guy. Even if he isn't. All of them are being paid. They should all produce like the top guy. 100/1500/10 for everyone!

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[quote=MTK;1142864]72 catches and 6 TDs as the #2 receiving option is bad production?[/quote]

I thought Garcon had a big bounce back season...completely impressed last year. I will never forget the game winning catch against the Eagles: [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/10/04/watch-pierre-garcons-gutsy-game-winning-touchdown-catch/[/url]

Garcon is still a bad ass.


What about Crowder, 58 catches as a rookie? Folks Im feeling good about receiver.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1142860]And I think this is exactly how the coaches feel about him. It's love and hate. He does just enough to justify keeping him and then pisses you the fuck off 5 minutes later. Personally I'll be glad when we can afford to move on from him but right now we need him. lol.[/QUOTE]



Exactly. "D Jax - nooo stop it stop it - I love it! Lol

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u have to keep DJAX he's just too good

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1142868]I thought Garcon had a big bounce back season...completely impressed last year. I will never forget the game winning catch against the Eagles: [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/10/04/watch-pierre-garcons-gutsy-game-winning-touchdown-catch/[/url]



Garcon is still a bad ass.





What about Crowder, 58 catches as a rookie? Folks Im feeling good about receiver.[/QUOTE]



Reed too. Plus a good qb. Good o- line. There is a whole lotta good.

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who would have thought 2 years ago that we would have a potentially great passing attack, NO Saints like IMO.

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[quote=MTK;1142864]72 catches and 6 TDs as the #2 receiving option is bad production?[/quote]
He had 72 catches but didn't come close to cracking 1000 yards. That is what I call mediocrity. Her had a few alright games here and there but most of the season he was a average wr who struggled to get separation.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1142861]Why would we pay Roberts 4 million just to play teams?[/quote]

The won't. Restructure or you're cut. But I would keep Roberts over Grant simply cause he can return kicks and punts.

In the end this was a terrible awful signing by Mr. We're Winning Off The Field!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1142874]The won't. Restructure or you're cut. But I would keep Roberts over Grant simply cause he can return kicks and punts.



In the end this was a terrible awful signing by Mr. We're Winning Off The Field![/QUOTE]



Roberts could play for free and his ass is still gone. He is not exactly electric on returns. Plus they need the roster spot. No way he makes the cut.

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They got Carrier, Paulsen, Paul, Davis, and Reed at TE. Id rather keep four of them than Roberts.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1142874]The won't. Restructure or you're cut. But I would keep Roberts over Grant simply cause he can return kicks and punts.

In the end this was a terrible awful signing by Mr. We're Winning Off The Field![/quote]

Restructure Roberts? Why? He has sucked at WR since he's been here. He may be called a a return man by some but he's done nothing on teams either. Just cut him.

Grant? Well, he's small but he's slow. The only thing he added to his game last season was he dropped more passes than he did the previous year. He is over-matched by stronger, quicker NFL DB's. Cut him, too.

Why is Garcon such a target? He has been a productive receiver for the Skins. Forget about how much money he makes. That's the nature of FA.

DJax is a must have player. He is one of the top deep threats in the game.

BTW, since return men were mentioned, I'd like to point out that we don't have any. Crowder was supposed to be a punt returner but he failed in that role, as did everyone else we put back there last season. Kickoff returners are no longer needed now that a team gets the ball on the 25 as a reward for [U]not[/U] returning a kickoff.

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Simply put, Andre Roberts isn't a "football player"



Folks draft isn't over, I could totally see us going WR later in the draft again.

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[QUOTE=redskinsfan1980;1142873]He had 72 catches but didn't come close to cracking 1000 yards. That is what I call mediocrity. Her had a few alright games here and there but most of the season he was a average wr who struggled to get separation.[/QUOTE]



So what about DJ's "lack of production"? He barely cracked 500 yards.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1142884]So what about DJ's "lack of production"? He barely cracked 500 yards.[/QUOTE]



He did miss time though. Which is obviously a concern with him. I preface all positive comments about D Jax with " as long as he is healthy ". Lol

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In the end I don't care which one we keep. It's just my thought that Garçon is more of a SM type of player, he's tough, durable, he blocks, etc. We shall see.

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[quote=Chico23231;1142878]Simply put, Andre Roberts isn't a "football player"



Folks draft isn't over, I could totally see us going WR later in the draft again.[/quote]

I'm on the Boyd bandwagon with Daseal. If he falls too, holy shit, that would be one hell of a pickup.

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[quote=MTK;1142884]So what about DJ's "lack of production"? He barely cracked 500 yards.[/quote]

I like Garçon and get what you are saying, but at his salary and cap hit, you'd expect more statistical production. I love the guy for his attitude he brings and hope we can bring him back closer to 6-8mil a year.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1142877]Restructure Roberts? Why? He has sucked at WR since he's been here. He may be called a a return man by some but he's done nothing on teams either. Just cut him.

Grant? Well, he's small but he's slow. The only thing he added to his game last season was he dropped more passes than he did the previous year. He is over-matched by stronger, quicker NFL DB's. Cut him, too.

Why is Garcon such a target? He has been a productive receiver for the Skins. Forget about how much money he makes. That's the nature of FA.

DJax is a must have player. He is one of the top deep threats in the game.

BTW, since return men were mentioned, I'd like to point out that we don't have any. [B]Crowder was supposed to be a punt returner but he failed in that role, as did everyone else we put back there last season. [/B]Kickoff returners are no longer needed now that a team gets the ball on the 25 as a reward for [U]not[/U] returning a kickoff.[/quote]

I'd like to keep him there for another year. He didn't do THAT well, but a few times he looked to be so close to breaking a few.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1142893]I'm on the Boyd bandwagon with Daseal. If he falls too, holy shit, that would be one hell of a pickup.[/quote]

WR is deeper than a Amsterdam prostitute's twat this year.

And I have no problem with us going deep and going proud.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1142897]WR is deeper than a Amsterdam prostitute's twat this year.



And I have no problem with us going deep and going proud.[/QUOTE]



LMAO. Dude your killing me with your analogies these past couple days. Good shit.

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[quote=punch it in;1142898]LMAO. Dude your killing me with your analogies these past couple days. Good shit.[/quote]

He stole it from a Donald Trump quote about the national debt.

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[quote=MTK;1142888]In the end I don't care which one we keep. It's just my thought that Garçon is more of a SM type of player, he's tough, durable, he blocks, etc. We shall see.[/quote]

I also get the sense that Garçon would be more likely to take a paycut to stay with the team...I could be wrong though.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1142900]He stole it from a Donald Trump quote about the national debt.[/QUOTE]



Fuck Trump. Chico has a way better delivery.

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[quote=Chico23231;1142897]WR is deeper than a Amsterdam prostitute's twat this year.

And I have no problem with us going deep and going proud.[/quote]

[IMG]http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1233928590_citizen%20kane%20clapping.gif[/IMG]

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next year is next year. this year PG stays and roberts should be cut once he's healthy, and i don't care about grant. we've spent 2-3 years being told how good he is in practice and seen absolutely nothing happen when he's in an actual game. at least ross can run down the field and scare somebody.

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Don't forget the DJax will open up the middle for Reed and Davis.
You can't double those guys without leaving single coverage over the top and not many can run with Jackson.

I see this pick and a good bye to Grant.
He has great attributes for a WR but doesn't get separation and all throws to him have to be perfect. he also doesn't impact special teams like Ross.

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Doc is a stud, was the top WR on my board.
I actually mocked him to us on 1st pick.
And we picked up an additional pick.

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Grant has played 2 years. Give him a break already.

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[quote=MTK;1142926]Grant has played 2 years. Give him a break already.[/quote]

Agreed

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[QUOTE=MTK;1142926]Grant has played 2 years. Give him a break already.[/QUOTE]



No he sucks and should be put down like an old dog.

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[quote=punch it in;1142947]No he sucks and should be put down like an old dog.[/quote]

agreed.

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[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/drobsports1/status/728733110670516224/video/1[/url]

Insane...look at these hands

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1143576][url]https://mobile.twitter.com/drobsports1/status/728733110670516224/video/1[/url]



Insane...look at these hands[/QUOTE]


[url]https://youtu.be/m-Wccy-Mijg[/url]

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Doc's in game catches are even better.

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[quote=punch it in;1142947]No he sucks and should be put down like an old dog.[/quote]

LOL...the thing about Grant is all we hear is how great of a route runner he is. How great his hands are. How great he is in practice. This may be another Taylor Jacobs type of thing. Or maybe he's another Keenan McCardell. Who knows? But his time here is coming to an end.

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I think the best thing we could hope for is Doctson comes in and beats out Garcon in camp. He's so good that they have to put him on the field. Love what Garcon give us, but let's be honest, for what he's being paid vs. the production doesn't add up.

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[quote=Chico23231;1143576][url]https://mobile.twitter.com/drobsports1/status/728733110670516224/video/1[/url]

Insane...look at these hands[/quote]

JR ought to put his dog Angus on the field during this drill. We'd see how many he could catch with defenders all over him!!!