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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1154969]I doubt that you were worried about the popular vote before the election started.

But now that you lost you are all butt hurt about it.

And if Hilldog had won you wouldn't have said squat about it.

Hindsight is a bitch, eh?[/QUOTE]



He was replying to a comment that metric shit tons of people voted for Trump. I think the fact that Hillary won the popular vote is worth mentioning. It has happened five times in history that the "winner" lost that. Bush once. The other three guys were ancient. Bur leave it to a trumpeter to call him butt hurt and stir the pot some more. Smfh.

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[quote=punch it in;1154971]Dude go back under the slimy rock you have been hiding under and stay there.
Obama isnt a two bit con artist. It isnt about black and white you idiot.
You don't know me. My attitude? Really? Because of a comment that this is a huge step backwards? Take your long confused rant and go away. This time for good.[/quote]

No, you go back to your safe space. And don't come out till you're ready to handle reality, unless you just like crying about it here.

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You know, this is one reason I stayed out of this part of the forum for awhile, the toxicity. And that we had no good choice this time around.

Think of my leaving this part of the forum a win if you want, punchitin, I say it's like this election. Either choice, we all lose.

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[quote=punch it in;1154973]He was replying to a comment that metric shit tons of people voted for Trump. I think the fact that Hillary won the popular vote is worth mentioning. It has happened five times in history that the "winner" lost that. Bush once. The other three guys were ancient. Bur leave it to a trumpeter to call him butt hurt and stir the pot some more. Smfh.[/quote]

5 times huh?
And it still exists?
It might be worth mentioning but it doesnt mean Jack Sheet at this point because...Hilldog is done.

You dont like electoral votes?
Vote it out.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1154974]No, you go back to your safe space. And don't come out till you're ready to handle reality, unless you just like crying about it here.[/QUOTE]



Your posts have always been of the class clown variety. I am not crying about anything. Just stop being so assumptive. You read one two sentence post i made, and turned it into the reason the world is what it is today.
Take it down a notch junior.

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1154976]5 times huh?

And it still exists?

It might be worth mentioning but it doesnt mean Jack Sheet at this point because...Hilldog is done.



You dont like electoral votes?

Vote it out.[/QUOTE]



Before this election there was Bush in 2000. Before that it was the 1800's. Does not happen often. At all. It does mean something. It means that the majority of actual human beings who voted think the country got it wrong. But hey i am
not sour grapes. I dont like Hillary Clinton. I certainly do not like Trump. Let this clown show the world how out of his league he is. Im getting my popcorn ready for the shit show. No sweat off my back. Oh I hope my attitude in this post has not changed the world again.

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[quote=punch it in;1154973]He was replying to a comment that metric shit tons of people voted for Trump. I think the fact that Hillary won the popular vote is worth mentioning. It has happened five times in history that the "winner" lost that. Bush once. The other three guys were ancient. Bur leave it to a trumpeter to call him butt hurt and stir the pot some more. Smfh.[/quote]


Donald Trump
59,611,678

Hillary Clinton
59,814,018

Gary Johnson
4,058,500

Jill Stein
1,213,103

Other candidates
0.7%
802,119

I don't know if these are final tallies, but let's count them as such for discussion sake.

There were about 125million votes cast.

It's irrelevant that Hillary won the popular vote by 0.16%, what is relevant is that it is basically a one to one ratio, for every soft liberal toadie out there, there is a racist bigot. Somehow, rather than spewing vitriol at each other, we have to find a way to make some solution that takes 2/3's the softies, and 2/3's of the racist bigots and puts them together to make 2/3's of this country on the same path.

The other 1/3 of the softies, and 1/3 of the racist bigots, can go off to Canada and Australia. Or better yet we could put them all in Nebraska, build a wall around it, and see which group survives???

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I know people are all about change, but is this really the change we need? The guy is a climate change denier, that's disturbing.

He wants to appoint Supreme Court Justices that will reverse Roe v Wade, his word folks, that's horrifying.

Feels like the country cut it's own nose off to spite it's face.

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[quote=punch it in;1154978]Before this election there was Bush in 2000. Before that it was the 1800's. Does not happen often. At all. It does mean something. [B]It means that the majority of actual human beings who voted think the country got it wrong.[/B] But hey i am
not sour grapes. I dont like Hillary Clinton. I certainly do not like Trump. Let this clown show the world how out of his league he is. Im getting my popcorn ready for the shit show. No sweat off my back. Oh I hope my attitude in this post has not changed the world again.[/quote]

Depending on how you add in Jill Stein and Gary Johnson's vote, the majority of the electorate thinks the country got it wrong regardless of whether Hillary or Trump had won the electoral college.

There is a reason we aren't a pure democracy - they fail quicker then most forms of government and the founding fathers understood this. Personally I wish the Senate was not done by pure popular vote, but instead, closer to the way it was originally written, the state legislature/governor's appoint them. The Senate was supposed to be the more esoteric of the two bodies. With sharpened political minds. Now it's just a more simplistic version of the House of Representatives. And going even further back to the original constitution, how awesome would it be if Trump was President and Hillary was Vice President!!! Bill and Trump would get along swimmingly and Hillary would have two misogynists to defend.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1154983]I know people are all about change, but is this really the change we need? The guy is a climate change denier, that's disturbing.

He wants to appoint Supreme Court Justices that will reverse Roe v Wade, his word folks, that's horrifying.

Feels like the country cut it's own nose off to spite it's face.[/QUOTE]




Perfect analogy for what just occurred.
So desperate for change they were, but change doesn't necessarily mean more money, better jobs, and greener grass. Change can be just as bad as it can be good.
Like I said, I am guilt free. The people who just let this guy snow them can toss and turn when they see where it gets us.

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[quote=mooby;1154945]Nope, just a look at the numbers show who propped him up. Young, old, college educated and non-college grad white people were solidly in favor of him. Hence my statement. More specifically, white males were heavily in his favor. I guess the fact that he's an old brah means he's on our side (FYI I too am a white male, most likely to be one of the least-affected people as a result of this election). He even had a solid percentage of the female vote. I guess they don't care about the fact that he bases the quality of a woman on her appearance.[/quote]

meh, people...driven by the outrage porn the media pushes 24/7... are obsessed about race. Guess what? the race exit polls are in line with the last election. Actually Trump slightly won more of the African American vote over Romney and won 30% of the latino vote. 30% of the latino vote, think about that for a second.

The media is not paying attention to the stat that always tells the winner....Who won the "independent" vote. This bullshit has nothing to do about race. Americans went to vote period.

Why is the country seem so divided ? Blame your bullshit fucking president Obama who sat on you hands the last 6 years. I tell you folks are so bias they refused to blame this god aweful leader. Its actually pathetic at this point. fucking pathetic

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[quote=MTK;1154983]I know people are all about change, but is this really the change we need? The guy is a climate change denier, that's disturbing.

He wants to appoint Supreme Court Justices that will reverse Roe v Wade, his word folks, that's horrifying.

Feels like the country cut it's own nose off to spite it's face.[/quote]

Some say cutting off the nose was worth it because we got our balls back.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1154982]Donald Trump

59,611,678



Hillary Clinton

59,814,018



Gary Johnson

4,058,500



Jill Stein

1,213,103



Other candidates

0.7%

802,119



I don't know if these are final tallies, but let's count them as such for discussion sake.



There were about 125million votes cast.



It's irrelevant that Hillary won the popular vote by 0.16%, what is relevant is that it is basically a one to one ratio, for every soft liberal toadie out there, there is a racist bigot. Somehow, rather than spewing vitriol at each other, we have to find a way to make some solution that takes 2/3's the softies, and 2/3's of the racist bigots and puts them together to make 2/3's of this country on the same path.



The other 1/3 of the softies, and 1/3 of the racist bigots, can go off to Canada and Australia. Or better yet we could put them all in Nebraska, build a wall around it, and see which group survives???[/QUOTE]



Hahaha. Perfect. I choose Canada. Australia is full of crazy ass deadly lizards, spiders, and straight up sea creatures. Nebraska just no.
As a democrat, I usually would have no problem getting behind a republican for the sake of moving forward. This is not that. This is asking me to stand behind someone who is filled with hate. No can do man.
Edit: just for the record Id rather be a soft liberal toadie than a racist bigot any old day. ✌️️

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Again, I think he's a terrible guy and 100% unqualified to be President, but I was/am still going to give it a chance.

Bad start so far with who is appointing. Not inspiring much confidence.

Was reading what he was going to do immediately:
1) Repeal Obamacare. I've always thought this needed re-working, so as long as something improved is put in it's place, I'm actually OK with this. A flat-out repeal with no other plan I do not support.

2) Defund Planned Parenthood. This one is take a LOT of issue with. Most of the people I know that supported Trump, voted for him on this single issue.

3) SO MANY environmental issues to name. He didn't mention a lot of this during his campaign, but if anyone cares about that at all, he's going to absolutely fuck the environment.

Things he's not going to do/can't do:
1) Build the wall. Most liberal/conservative sources I've read say there's no way in hell that happens. Expensive. Unpopular.

2) Suddenly doesn't have a hard line stance on Muslims. No mass deportation.

I'm wondering how the insane (and there were insane people on both sides) supporters will feel when he hasn't deported every Muslim and hasn't built the wall?

I'm trying hard to squint and see some positives, but it's really difficult right now, even if they're just intentions right now.

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So if we don't build a wall, are you saying your currently satisfied with the security of the border? Your satisfied with the flow of undocumented folks coming across the border? With the flow of drugs and human trafficking? Human trafficking is big business for bad hombres. What about American Citizens living along the border? Pretty much eff them? Those folks don't deserve the security?

Im kinda lost with folks who think we shouldn't secure the border. So are you good with people just walking through your own property...what about if they are carrying drugs and guns?

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[quote=Chico23231;1154992]So if we don't build a wall, are you saying your currently satisfied with the security of the border? Your satisfied with the flow of undocumented folks coming across the border? With the flow of drugs and human trafficking? Human trafficking is big business for bad hombres. What about American Citizens living along the border? Pretty much eff them? Those folks don't deserve the security?

Im kinda lost with folks who think we shouldn't secure the border. So are you good with people just walking through your own property...what about if they are carrying drugs and guns?[/quote]

The wall is an idea, but it actually working seems logistical impossible.

This is a documentary on a wall they have already built; pretty much doesn't work. Just keeps wild life from being able to get to their feeding grounds.

No matter what wall you build folks will figure out how to go over it or under it.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x53KXfJl4aY[/url]

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The great wall of China stands as one of the new 7 wonders of the world and as a testament to a country defending it's borders from an onslaught. European cities celebrate their castle walls and moats, which again were built as defensive measures. I don't know that we need a physical wall, but the outrage over the concept is purely ridiculous.

Election Day
 

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1154992]So if we don't build a wall, are you saying your currently satisfied with the security of the border? Your satisfied with the flow of undocumented folks coming across the border? With the flow of drugs and human trafficking? Human trafficking is big business for bad hombres. What about American Citizens living along the border? Pretty much eff them? Those folks don't deserve the security?



Im kinda lost with folks who think we shouldn't secure the border. So are you good with people just walking through your own property...what about if they are carrying drugs and guns?[/QUOTE]



There will be no wall. There will be no mass deportation. There will be no special prosecutor to jail Hillary for no reason. These are all false promises made by a false messiah.
There are plenty of people carrying guns and drugs (possibly we might search your pockets right now), that are not fucking mexican.
Crazy Chico but I never would have pegged you for such a hard line Trumpeter? You bit hard on this guy huh?
Edit: i know you are talking about hard drugs, but come on to blame gun violence and drug trafficking on illegal aliens is so foolish. We cannot just live in a bubble and sing grand ole flag every day. Not what this country stands for. Not even close.

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[quote=mredskins;1154994]The wall is an idea, but it actually working seems logistical impossible.

This is a documentary on a wall they have already built; pretty much doesn't work. Just keeps wild life from being able to get to their feeding grounds.

No matter what wall you build folks will figure out how to go over it or under it.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x53KXfJl4aY[/url][/quote]

ill peak at that when I get home...I just think with the available technology maybe a physical barrier isn't needed. I surely think we could do a better job. Are folks saying we cant do something? interesting.

Why do you think people who want to immigrate into a country and then don't want to follow the immigration law...why cant they just follow the rules? Do you think its ok for people to generally to break a federal law within the first couple minutes of arriving in the country by steppin across the border? How should we feel as citizens about this?

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[quote=punch it in;1154996]There will be no wall. There will be no mass deportation. There will be no special prosecutor to jail Hillary for no reason. These are all false promises made by a false messiah.
There are plenty of people carrying guns and drugs (possibly we might search your pockets right now), that are not fucking mexican.
Crazy Chico but I never would have pegged you for such a hard line Trumpeter? You bit hard on this guy huh?[/quote]

No Im just fed up with the direction of the country. Trump is a slimeball, but I have enjoyed the message that was sent very very much.

Election Day
 

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1154998]No Im just fed up with the direction of the country. Trump is a slimeball, but I have enjoyed the message that was sent very very much.[/QUOTE]



Great message - way wrong guy.
Also, just remember- the grass isnt always greener and be extremely careful what you wish for...
Edit: by great message I do not at all mean - deport people build walls or any of that nonsense. I just mean the message to the government that someone can reach the oval office from the masses if you will. Just of all the millions of choices people chose the slimiest one. Ugh

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I apologize ,I never meant this thread to become what it has,it's purpose was to be light on a weird day.My opinion has been noted and I am done.There is no need to keep arguing with people I enjoy very much.:food-smil

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1155000]I apologize ,I never meant this thread to become what it has,it's purpose was to be light on a weird day.My opinion has been noted and I am done.There is no need to keep arguing with people I enjoy very much.:food-smil[/QUOTE]



Don't apologize. This is way better than Facebook. Talk about a bloody battle field. Im losing friends right and left! Lol. Fuck em.

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[quote=Giantone;1155000]I apologize ,I never meant this thread to become what it has,it's purpose was to be light on a weird day.My opinion has been noted and I am done.There is no need to keep arguing with people I enjoy very much.:food-smil[/quote]

dude, Im not mad at anyone here or if we have different views of things its extremely cool. I think here we are extremely cordial, sure there is a little frustration and bitterness about opinions, but nothing where folks are emotionally irate. I think its great we can talk about the differences about issues, that's what we are suppose to do, right?

If you drift off to other media and political sites, the insane anger and hatefulness is cra-cra.

I have no problem with anybody here...in fact if someone goes, Chico your an b*tcha$$ p(meow)y mutherf******er....my first thought is well I probably deserved that.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1155002]dude, Im not mad at anyone here or if we have different views of things its extremely cool. I think here we are extremely cordial, sure there is a little frustration and bitterness about opinions, but nothing where folks are emotionally irate. I think its great we can talk about the differences about issues, that's what we are suppose to do, right?



If you drift off to other media and political sites, the insane anger and hatefulness is cra-cra.



I have no problem with anybody here...in fact if someone goes, Chico your an b*tcha$$ p(meow)y mutherf******er....my first thought is well I probably deserved that.[/QUOTE]



Amen.

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[quote=FRPLG;1154936]This election wasn't about whether trump is a meanie or a nice dude. It was about years of neglect for the lower middle class in the middle of this country on the part of DC politicians. The one person charismatic enough and outsider enough came along and said "drain the swamp" and every factory worker sitting on their couch looking for a new job said "Finally!" It didn't matter that he's an asshole. They voted in spite of that. The same message from someone equally as media savvy with a better reputation and a nicer demeanor would have made this a blowout across the board.[/quote]


A quality post and one that most reflects the truth about this election. People that voted for Trump did so knowing he was a sexist, racist bigot that had no business being a President. In exit polls 2/3 of the people that voted for him said that they knew he was unqualified to be the President. So why vote for him you think? Well, because for all of his faults, he was a political outsider that the system fought against. This same system that has fucked the middle class American families the past 30 years while our politicians continue to allow corporations to ship jobs overseas and to evade taxes. Trump was the conservative equal to the Democratic's Bernie. He represented a change, and one that went against the system that's fucked them over.

Now lets switch over to Clinton. Here we have middle class families still hurting from the banking crisis, and the one person the Dems trot out is cozy with Wall Street bankers and who supports another shitty trade pact that's going to send more jobs overseas. Not to mention the pay to play Clinton foundation while she was secretary of state, or the email fiasco, or even the rigging of the primaries against Bernie. She represented the very system they hated.

This election was over the moment that Clinton was nominated. The left was just too stupid to think otherwise, and the more they countered with negative ads and media endorsements, the stronger Trump's support gained. Frankly, I've talked to too many Trump voters that flat out said they would have voted for Bernie over Trump because they thought Bernie was a decent man who also fought the system and wasn't really worried about his policies with a standing congress. Make no mistake, many Trump voters aren't happy they had to vote Trump.

I voted Johnson personally.

Election Day
 

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1155004]A quality post and one that most reflects the truth about this election. People that voted for Trump did so knowing he was a sexist, racist bigot that had no business being a President. In exit polls 2/3 of the people that voted for him said that they knew he was unqualified to be the President. So why vote for him you think? Well, because for all of his faults, he was a political outsider that the system fought against. This same system that has fucked the middle class American families the past 30 years while our politicians continue to allow corporations to ship jobs overseas and to evade taxes. Trump was the conservative equal to the Democratic's Bernie. He represented a change, and one that went against the system that's fucked them over.



Now lets switch over to Clinton. Here we have middle class families still hurting from the banking crisis, and the one person the Dems trot out is cozy with Wall Street bankers and who supports another shitty trade pact that's going to send more jobs overseas. Not to mention the pay to play Clinton foundation while she was secretary of state, or the email fiasco, or even the rigging of the primaries against Bernie. She represented the very system they hated.



This election was over the moment that Clinton was nominated. The left was just too stupid to think otherwise, and the more they countered with negative ads and media endorsements, the stronger Trump's support gained. Frankly, I've talked to too many Trump voters that flat out said they would have voted for Bernie over Trump because they thought Bernie was a decent man who also fought the system and wasn't really worried about his policies with a standing congress. Make no mistake, many Trump voters aren't happy they had to vote Trump.



I voted Johnson personally.[/QUOTE]



No doubt. Bernie would have won in a landslide. Pretty ironic that Hillary was Trumps biggest asset getting to the White house.
Oh well. He will expose his inabilities and I will sit back, eat my popcorn, and watch these Trumpeters in their "oh crap what have I done moment".
I would love to say that this new regime will do a 180, but me thinks I have a better chance of finding a real live leprechaun holding a four leaf clover while riding a unicorn.

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[quote=Chico23231;1154997]ill peak at that when I get home...I just think with the available technology maybe a physical barrier isn't needed. I surely think we could do a better job. Are folks saying we cant do something? interesting.

[B]Why do you think people who want to immigrate into a country and then don't want to follow the immigration law...why cant they just follow the rules? Do you think its ok for people to generally to break a federal law within the first couple minutes of arriving in the country by steppin across the border? How should we feel as citizens about thi[/B]s?[/quote]

U asking me? I am just telling yo ua wall will be difficult. Unless we build the 8th wonder of the world probably not going be a wall.

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[quote=Chico23231;1154992]So if we don't build a wall, are you saying your currently satisfied with the security of the border? Your satisfied with the flow of undocumented folks coming across the border? With the flow of drugs and human trafficking? Human trafficking is big business for bad hombres. What about American Citizens living along the border? Pretty much eff them? Those folks don't deserve the security?

Im kinda lost with folks who think we shouldn't secure the border. So are you good with people just walking through your own property...what about if they are carrying drugs and guns?[/quote]

Definitely not. I'm moderate when it comes to immigration. I think we need to tighten our borders for sure, but also don't think we should be hunting down and shipping out hundreds of thousands of people. Border control is one of the more complex issues for me. While I will agree with one idea that's maybe more liberal, I will also agree with a more conservative idea.

For me, the whole idea was just flat-out stupid. In addition to the logistics, it just flat out wouldn't work.

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Voter turnout for the past 3 elections.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/TOGIbcP.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=mredskins;1155006]U asking me? I am just telling yo ua wall will be difficult. Unless we build the 8th wonder of the world probably not going be a wall.[/quote]

no general question for the group. 8th wonder of world...that sounds very trump-like lol

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If he made the wall big enough it could hold casinos and hotels.
The hotels could have spotting scopes on the room balconies and you could get a casino voucher for every illegal you spotted.
5 X pay on the blackjack tables. Woohoo!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1155008]Definitely not. I'm moderate when it comes to immigration. I think we need to tighten our borders for sure, but also don't think we should be hunting down and shipping out hundreds of thousands of people. Border control is one of the more complex issues for me. While I will agree with one idea that's maybe more liberal, I will also agree with a more conservative idea.

For me, the whole idea was just flat-out stupid. In addition to the logistics, it just flat out wouldn't work.[/quote]

yeah I don't think we will be hunting down folks either...not for that. Im for an existing path with current folks here that have established families. But I think before you tackle the policy...that border needs to become secure.

I also think if we establish an existing path, then we bring harsher penalties to those who cross illegally. Actual Human traffickers are shown no mercy...they get caught and locked up immediately with no bail. Human trafficking is the scummiest of all scum.

I think a stronger border is a must...maybe not a wall in all places, but defiantly a more secure border...lets use technology.

Its unfortunate, but a lot of folks don't really understand what the people of texas and Arizona go through who live against the border....its bad. Not safe at all. And that's a disservice by the federal government.

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Trumps 100 day action plan.

[url]https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf[/url]

Two different items from that I copied and pasted -
★
FOURTH
, begin removing the more than two million
criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel
visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back.

[B]End Illegal Immigration Act[/B]
Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern
border with the full understanding that the country of
Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost
of such wall; establishes a two-year mandatory minimum
federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after
a previous deportation, and a five-year mandatory minimum
federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering for those
with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions
or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to
enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs
are offered to American workers first.

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1155011]If he made the wall big enough it could hold casinos and hotels.

The hotels could have spotting scopes on the room balconies and you could get a casino voucher for every illegal you spotted.

5 X pay on the blackjack tables. Woohoo![/QUOTE]



And when they go bankrupt we will make those Mexicans pay for it!

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[quote=Chico23231;1155012]yeah I don't think we will be hunting down folks either...not for that. Im for an existing path with current folks here that have established families. But I think before you tackle the policy...that border needs to become secure.

I also think if we establish an existing path, then we bring harsher penalties to those who cross illegally. Actual Human traffickers are shown no mercy...they get caught and locked up immediately with no bail. Human trafficking is the scummiest of all scum.

I think a stronger border is a must...maybe not a wall in all places, but defiantly a more secure border...lets use technology.

Its unfortunate, but a lot of folks don't really understand what the people of texas and Arizona go through who live against the border....its bad. Not safe at all. And that's a disservice by the federal government.[/quote]

All of this definitely sounds reasonable to me. I guess when it's all said and done, it'll be a learning moment for everyone. My biggest fear is him doing irreparable damage (some I think he has already done) during his four years that would take longer than my lifetime to undo.

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Worst part of all of this:

No taco truck on every corner. :(

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1155017]All of this definitely sounds reasonable to me. I guess when it's all said and done, it'll be a learning moment for everyone. My biggest fear is him doing irreparable damage (some I think he has already done) during his four years that would take longer than my lifetime to undo.[/quote]

Just curious - what damage do you think he has already done?

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International opinion. Regardless of how much the international community knows about our politics, they at least outwardly see the things he's said and done. I imagine if we just saw the highlights of someone like him elsewhere, we'd probably lose a lot of respect for those who voted him in.

EDIT: He also divided this country with a lot of hate. We've beaten that horse to death, but I've never seen Americans pitted against each other like this. Just an example from last night: where I work had a support meeting for foreign students and LGBT students. A few other students PROTESTED this meeting yelling liberal pussies to them. They see that it's OK their President can do it, so it's OK for them to do it too.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1155019]Just curious - what damage do you think he has already done?[/QUOTE]



I would start with insulting muslims, mexicans, women, etc and than being elected potus. Minor details. Im glad people are protesting. At least the rest of the world knows that we are not all fans of his crass racist ignorant speech. Do not ever underestimate the power of words.
Edit - c-red remember me accidentally flipping the bird to the old lady who was a cowboy fan? U had a problem with that kind of hate. So i guess im wondering how you could even ask the question "what kind of damage he has done"?