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the first thing we need to do is get a good darn running back,kelly isn,t the answer that,s so obvious ,ans straighten out are wide receivers

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The kid from Penn State would be really nice. I'm over Rob Kelley. He didn't even carry the load in college and is also always getting hurt.

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IMO next years draft...
RD1 - beast of a pass rusher.
RD2 - OL
RD3 - NT
RD4 - OL
RD5 - WR/RB/TE BPA

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[quote=Chico23231;1178268]funny to see you back today...

Let me help you

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2014_injuries.htm[/url]

10 IR and only 2 starters = when they won superbowl

Not even close to a comparison...BUT I appreciate the comparison to a SB Team. Thanks Bud![/quote]

And probably none of those were Pro Bowl caliber players either.

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The game ended on that blocked field goal. We were skating on thin ice with all the injuries. And we fell into the water.

After that, we just didn't have the horses to keep up. Its the NFL, you can't miss out on opportunities.

We seem to always have huge negative game changing plays in big games.

I put this loss more on mistakes and coaching. Combine those with ludacris number of injuries, we had no chance.

Also, Eliiot ate us for lunch. Still need a true NT for games against teams like Dallas. And we need another stud MLB or 2 if we don't keep Brown.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1178274]The game ended on that blocked field goal. We were skating on thin ice with all the injuries. And we fell into the water.

After that, we just didn't have the horses to keep up. Its the NFL, you can't miss out on opportunities.

We seem to always have huge negative game changing plays in big games.

I put this loss more on mistakes and coaching. Combine those with ludacris number of injuries, we had no chance.

[B]Also, Eliiot ate us for lunch. Still need a true NT for games against teams like Dallas. And we need another stud MLB or 2 if we don't keep Brown.[/B][/quote]Since Shanny switching our D to a base 3-4 in 2009, we have yet to have a true NT. Kind of hard to have a dominant 3-4 D without a two-block eating NT to free the ILB's to make plays downhill. Draft a real NT, and re-sign Brown, for starters.

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[QUOTE=Meks;1178272]IMO next years draft...
RD1 - beast of a pass rusher.
RD2 - OL
RD3 - NT
RD4 - OL
RD5 - WR/RB/TE BPA[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I wouldn't take a RB in round 1. Seriously how many 3-5 round RBs are game changers? Dallas hit the jackpot with Zeke, we have a great LT and great RG, add a solid C and we would be a beast line like them but we don't have a RB

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1178254]As soon as Nsekhe is ready, Trent should have the surgery and be ready for next year.

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/33979/as-trent-williams-knee-gets-worse-long-term-effects-weighed]Redskins weigh long-term effects of Trent Williams' worsening knee injury - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

I came to this thread to write this very thing. Trent needs to stop playing. I saw this movie in 2012 and it didn't end well.

You can't say RGIII's injury and Trent's injury are the same. But the idea that his knee could buckle and he could tear up everything is a prospect that scares the pants off me.

Fuck it, shut him down and take your shot next season. If he injures himself down the stretch and he's questionable going into next season then somebody needs to be fired immediately. It is entirely possible to see this coming a mile away.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1178271]The kid from Penn State would be really nice. I'm over Rob Kelley. He didn't even carry the load in college and is also always getting hurt.[/quote]

Barkley should be gone by our pick but Derrius Guice from LSU is another good one

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1178277]I'm not sure I wouldn't take a RB in round 1. Seriously how many 3-5 round RBs are game changers? Dallas hit the jackpot with Zeke, we have a great LT and great RG, add a solid C and we would be a beast line like them but we don't have a RB

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ye i guess its really just going to depend on how the board goes and where we pick and whos available...
if there is a bonafide stud rb available at our pick he might be hard to pass on - but IMO, personally, if there is an absolute stud pass rusher, thats where im going with our first pick

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[quote=Chico23231;1178268]funny to see you back today...

Let me help you

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2014_injuries.htm[/url]

10 IR and only 2 starters = when they won superbowl

Not even close to a comparison...BUT I appreciate the comparison to a SB Team. Thanks Bud![/quote]
Neither your team nor mine has even sniffed a Conference championship, much less a SB in over 20 years. There is a comparison for you.

My point, truly, is ever since this latest CBA was ratified, injuries across the league have increased measurably. Not just Washington.

The latest CBA is where they changes the rules of off season work outs and practices. No more pads in practice until after a specified date and only a small number of padded practices allowed. No contact in practice. Less OTAs requirements for strength and fitness. All of these were tools to get players in shape for the season and be prepared for the abuse their bodies were gong through. And they were tools that were, above all, designed to REDUCE the number of in season injuries.

I am just not one to blame injuries on the failure of my team personally. However, I will always take measure with a player that is not doing his job. I do not think that #2 or #3 on the depth chart is cut any slack by the coaches, his team mates or in the film room just because his name is not Sean Lee.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1178278]I came to this thread to write this very thing. Trent needs to stop playing. I saw this movie in 2012 and it didn't end well.

You can't say RGIII's injury and Trent's injury are the same. But the idea that his knee could buckle and he could tear up everything is a prospect that scares the pants off me.

Fuck it, shut him down and take your shot next season. If he injures himself down the stretch and he's questionable going into next season then somebody needs to be fired immediately. It is entirely possible to see this coming a mile away.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'd sit him too, he's too great to be injured for next year too. Have the surgery and let the young guys play. Maybe TY comes back soon

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I'd go with the best player available in round 1. There isn't a position group that can't use a talent upgrade.

Round 2, I'd take the best RB available. I'm ready for a bellcow myself as well.

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[quote=Schneed10;1178278]I came to this thread to write this very thing. Trent needs to stop playing. I saw this movie in 2012 and it didn't end well.

You can't say RGIII's injury and Trent's injury are the same. But the idea that his knee could buckle and he could tear up everything is a prospect that scares the pants off me.

Fuck it, shut him down and take your shot next season. If he injures himself down the stretch and he's questionable going into next season then somebody needs to be fired immediately. It is entirely possible to see this coming a mile away.[/quote]

If we had a chance of doing anything this year I wouldn't put him on IR, but with the amount of injuries we have I don't us doing much of anything this year. Put him on IR and let him get ready for next year.

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[quote=Chico23231;1178243]second consecutive week of not being able to run the ball. We aren't gonna win if we cant run the ball...its as simple as that. Sure the oline issue hurt, but we aren't getting a starters performance from our RBs.[/quote]

I think not having an O line is pretty instrumental in having no running game. Anyway, that was the situation yesterday. Running game has no chance, the offensive is limited to dink and dunk passes, mainly because there’s not enough time for a route to develop.

Just for reference, we ran the ball pretty well when we had people playing in the offensive line whose names we had heard before. That wasn’t the case yesterday...

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And Trent should sit now, I don't care who plays LT. We need our best player to return next year as our best player.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1178294]And Trent should sit now, I don't care who plays LT. We need our best player to return next year as our best player.[/quote]

More importantly we need to do right by the player.
Sit him, It's best for him and the team(Long term).

Hopefully Nsekhe can come back soon.

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at this point his health is what it most important. sit em and hope for the best

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For those complaining about skins using injury as a excuse:

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21221230/injuries-mount-washington-redskins]Injuries mount for Washington Redskins[/url]

"You really can't make this up," Williams said. "This is something that I've never in my life, playing football -- seen an injury bug bite a team like it's bitten us."

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Gruden just had his press conference. Matt Ioannidis needs a surgery to repair his hand fracture. Definitely out this week, will possibly cast it up and see if he can play after that.

Gruden also said Reed will definitely miss this week.

He went through the injury list, which was exhaustive, and every question from the press was on the subject of injuries. He looked dejected and defeated.

I can't blame him. There's no overcoming this.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1178299]Gruden just had his press conference. Matt Ioannidis needs a surgery to repair his hand fracture. Definitely out this week, will possibly cast it up and see if he can play after that.

Gruden also said Reed will definitely miss this week.

He went through the injury list, which was exhaustive, and every question from the press was on the subject of injuries. He looked dejected and defeated.

I can't blame him. There's no overcoming this.[/QUOTE]The redskins are cursed, it's the Snyder curse. Maybe if they leave landover and go back to DC things would change idk but u can't tell me we aren't cursed.

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[quote=metalskins;1178249]Which is why your team sucks. So, you have to agree that injuries DO affect a team, otherwise, what you just said is a huge contradiction.

The Redskins lead the league with players on IR. That says a lot right there. Simply put, when three of your linemen are out, two of those are pro bowl players by the way, another starter gets hurt, and the other starter playing hurt, then to assume it's business as usual and just plug in other names and keep it going should be expected is a ridiculous notion to assume. It's not an excuse at all. Simply put, when your whole offensive line is hurt and out, your whole offense suffers. I don't care if Tom Brady is your quarterback and you're throwing to Jerry Rice and Lynn Swann, or handing the ball off to Barry Sanders, your offense isn't going to work nearly as well as it does when your starting offensive line is healthy. Not only that, we had guys starting on that offensive line that weren't even on the team last week.

So, don't go with the "excuses" mentality, because it isn't an excuse.[/quote]

Check out KC..........



[url=http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/injuries]NFL Injuries | FOX Sports[/url]

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Don't feed the trolls from the other NFC East teams.

We know what we are: a decent team when healthy. We are not the 2016 Patriots or the current version of the Chiefs, we know that. We're not as good and our margin for error is much smaller. Comparisons to those teams are ridiculous.

With good fortune on the injury front I'm convinced we could have been 9-7 or 10-6 even. But now? Not going to happen.

Sad. But sometimes this happens. Two years ago we had incredible health along our offensive line. It led us to a division title. We've had really good luck at the QB spot the last few years, knock on wood. Most seasons for most teams, you have to sit a QB for injury reasons for at least one week. Our new goal should be as much about keeping Cousins healthy as it should be about trying to make the playoffs.

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Does make me wonder, how does Kirk feel about signing a one-year deal now? He should seriously rethink his risk profile.

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[quote=Giantone;1178303]Check out KC..........



[url=http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/injuries]NFL Injuries | FOX Sports[/url][/quote]

What does that prove? I never said other teams don't have injuries. How many of those players on KC's list are starters? Almost all the names on the 'skins list are starters, with the exception of about 3 of them. 4 of those names are our starting offensive line, 4 out 5 guys. And the fifth name that got hurt in the Dallas game isn't on that list.

If you doubt that having your entire starting offensive line doesn't affect anything, you're smoking crack.

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[quote=Schneed10;1178306]Does make me wonder, how does Kirk feel about signing a one-year deal now? He should seriously rethink his risk profile.[/quote]

He's made 43 or 44 million the last two years? He's already set for life and probably isn't overly concerned about it at this point.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1178308]He's made 43 or 44 million the last two years? He's already set for life and probably isn't overly concerned about it at this point.[/QUOTE]Yeah he will leave only if he really wants to, money isn't a big deal to him I don't believe. Especially after now

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I got a bridge to sell you if you don't think money matters to Cousins. LOL

I just want to be believed in is code for I want a team to prove they're interested by investing in me in the form of guaranteed money.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1178312]I got a bridge to sell you if you don't think money matters to Cousins. LOL

I just want to be believed in is code for I want a team to prove they're interested by investing in me in the form of guaranteed money.[/QUOTE]I'm sure it matters but we can pay him as much as anyone pretty much. It comes down to want to be here or not. I still believe he wants out but we'll see

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[quote=metalskins;1178307]

If you doubt that having your entire starting offensive line doesn't affect anything, you're smoking crack.[/quote]


Please find where I said it doesn't? I'll wait. What I said is that injuries happen to all teams in the NFL and all I did was use my team as an example.

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[quote=Giantone;1178316]Please find where I said it doesn't? I'll wait. What I said is that injuries happen to all teams in the NFL and all I did was use my team as an example.[/quote]

Can we stop this?

Nobody thinks the Redskins are good enough to overcome typical injuries and still make the playoffs. They're DEFINITELY not good enough to overcome this year's complement of injuries, which has been extraordinary.

The Redskins are decent. If they get [U]fortunate[/U] when it comes to injuries, they probably go 9-7 or 10-6. They obviously haven't been fortunate. None of us here think they can rally and make the playoffs now.

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Pointless arguing with a troll, especially when his point had no point to it to begin with.

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[quote=Schneed10;1178317]Can we stop this?

Nobody thinks the Redskins are good enough to overcome typical injuries and still make the playoffs. They're DEFINITELY not good enough to overcome this year's complement of injuries, which has been extraordinary.

The Redskins are decent. If they get [U]fortunate[/U] when it comes to injuries, they probably go 9-7 or 10-6. They obviously haven't been fortunate. None of us here think they can rally and make the playoffs now.[/quote]

Yep. absolutely not. I'm hoping for a decent showing down the stretch to build toward a hopefully better and less injured 2018.

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Giants suck, we suck. End of story

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[quote=Schneed10;1178317]Can we stop this?

Nobody thinks the Redskins are good enough to overcome typical injuries and still make the playoffs. They're DEFINITELY not good enough to overcome this year's complement of injuries, which has been extraordinary.

The Redskins are decent. If they get [U]fortunate[/U] when it comes to injuries, they probably go 9-7 or 10-6. They obviously haven't been fortunate. None of us here think they can rally and make the playoffs now.[/quote]

Sorry, I disagree with you.Skins had a bad game,3-4 at the midway point of a 16 game season is not the end.Will anyone catch the Eagle ,probably not but the wild card is still wide open. Do you know how many times I have seen the Skins and the Giant go 8 and 0 only to lose out the last eight or visa versa?The Giants have way to many other problems besides their injuries but the Skins are not a bad team ,young yes,bad no.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1178230]And free Sundays! I used to carry the badge of never missing a Skins game, now I rarely ever watch.



Honestly the only thing that really keeps me tied to the Skins and the NFL is this web site.



If some year we have a SB run I will get back into but I am done burning Sundays on the Redskins.[/QUOTE]



Yup. Absolutely did not think a couple weeks ago that this season would be over in October. I want to hold out hope for next year but suddenly when I look at needs it is staggering. Our Kicker should come back healthy so forget about K for now. D-line depth, O line depth for starters. RB. TE. WR. WR. S. QB most likely. I am sorry but I already do not like our chances for next year. We are just stuck in perpetual rebuild. If we stay extremely healthy next year, and resign KC I give us a punchers chance. We need more of a foundation and some skill players at almost every position.

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Lol Reed is out Sunday. Just shut him down too.

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I haven't missed a game (that was by my choice) in years. But I understand if some don't watch.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1178324]Lol Reed is out Sunday. Just shut him down too.

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TE is definitely on the list of needs.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1178325]I haven't missed a game (that was by my choice) in years. But I understand if some don't watch.

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I'm gonna watch every weekend, but in terms of competing against the best and hoping to win I ain't getting my hopes up.