Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=MTK;1190471]If $84m is a back breaker for a team over 3 years they’re seriously doing something wrong[/quote]

My point is that it could open the door for fully guaranteed multi-year contracts at every position. The NFLPA could use this as a bargaining chip. The owners would hate that.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

The #Giants went all in on LT Nate Solder, especially after watching Andrew Norwell head to the #Jaguars. They priced out the #Patriots and the #Texans… making Solder the highest paid LT.

I think he's a good Tackle but not the best by a long shot.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190495]They also have Duke Johnson who is pretty good, Hyde is a very good back and underrated. I'm not saying they will pass on Barkley but it's not impossible to think that.[/quote]

The Browns are very much open to shopping their picks, so it's not a lock that they'd draft Barkley. I have to say though, if the 'skins somehow got Barkley, I think that would be the magic beans for Alex Smith.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=metalskins;1190528]The Browns are very much open to shopping their picks, so it's not a lock that they'd draft Barkley. I have to say though, if the 'skins somehow got Barkley, I think that would be the magic beans for Alex Smith.[/quote]

I would trade up to get him but I know it won't happen.

Also TB is working out Guice today so it looks like we may not go RB at 13 if both of those studs are gone.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190529]I would trade up to get him but I know it won't happen.

Also TB is working out Guice today so it looks like we may not go RB at 13 if both of those studs are gone.[/quote]

If not RB, then definitely BPA and hope that is a DL.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190495]They also have Duke Johnson who is pretty good, Hyde is a very good back and underrated. I'm not saying they will pass on Barkley but it's not impossible to think that.[/quote]

Duke Johnson is more WR than RB at this point

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1190512]My point is that it could open the door for fully guaranteed multi-year contracts at every position. The NFLPA could use this as a bargaining chip. The owners would hate that.[/quote]

I have very little faith in the NFLPA, as they always seem to be distracted by other less pressing issues (i.e. discipline).

I really doubt the contract is fully fully guaranteed, but if it is, it'd be interesting to the dynamic would be between Zygi Wilf and the other owners.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=MTK;1190438]So after seeing Ryan Grant get paid, anyone still mad about Richardson’s deal??[/quote]

I am more concerned about Richardson's injury history. Three major knee injuries with Seattle.
I do not want to see Richardson and Jordan Reed in street clothes during games filling out their deposit slips for their huge pay checks.
Reed is as injury-prone as he is talented. He has yet to play 16 games in his first 5 NFL seasons and his $10million dollar cap hit this year is a big concern.
Richardson has played only one full 16 game season in his 4 year career that has two major ACL tears and one MCL tear.
Add Doctson to that equation and injury history to our receiving is a concern.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=Defensewins;1190543]I am more concerned about Richardson's injury history. Three major knee injuries with Seattle.
I do not want to see Richardson and Jordan Reed in street clothes during games filling out their deposit slips for their huge pay checks.
Reed is as injury-prone as he is talented. He has yet to play 16 games in his first 5 NFL seasons and his $10million dollar cap hit this year is a big concern.
Richardson has played only one full 16 game season in his 4 year career that has two major ACL tears and one MCL tear.
Add Doctson to that equation and injury history to our receiving is a concern.[/quote]

All of this is 100% true and it is a big concern but we needed that Speed to open up the field, even if he is just used for some deep passes here and there we will benefit from it. Reed? It's time to just realize we need to draft a TE

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Gmen make Nate Solder the highest paid OL in the league:

Ian Rapoport
‏
Verified account

@RapSheet
Following Following @RapSheet
More
The #Giants are signing LT Nate Solder to a 4-year deal worth $62M, source said, with $35M guaranteed. The highest paid OL in the NFL. 💰💰💰

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1190547]Gmen make Nate Solder the highest paid OL in the league:

Ian Rapoport
‏
Verified account

@RapSheet
Following Following @RapSheet
More
The #Giants are signing LT Nate Solder to a 4-year deal worth $62M, source said, with $35M guaranteed. The highest paid OL in the NFL. 💰💰💰[/quote]
After losing the guard to the Jags they knew they had to come off some money.Not sure if I like this ,is it an up grade yes but he hasn't been to a "pro bowl".Now the Giants should trade down get picks and get the guard from ND Nelson. I would offer ODB to the Browns for their #1 and get Barkley and Nelson at # 2.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

A flower barrell is an upgrade at LT for Giants, but this just further proves that you don't have to be anywhere near the best to get paid the best.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190544]All of this is 100% true and it is a big concern but we needed that Speed to open up the field, even if he is just used for some deep passes here and there we will benefit from it. Reed? It's time to just realize we need to draft a TE[/quote]

There is healthy WR speed in this draft and much less expensive. A lot less risk to cost. I hope Richardson is on the field.
Reed on the other hand, I don't think our FO has realized it yet. Instead they signed him to a 5 year, $46,750,000 contract, including a $9,000,000 signing bonus, $22,000,000 guaranteed, a cap hit of $10,143,750 in 2018.
At his cap hit , if he has another repeat of 2017 in 2018 it will definitely be time to get move on from Reed.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=Defensewins;1190564][B]There is healthy WR speed in this draft and much less expensive.[/B] A lot less risk to cost. I hope Richardson is on the field.
Reed on the other hand, I don't think our FO has realized it yet. Instead they signed him to a 5 year, $46,750,000 contract, including a $9,000,000 signing bonus, $22,000,000 guaranteed, a cap hit of $10,143,750 in 2018.
At his cap hit , if he has another repeat of 2017 in 2018 it will definitely be time to get move on from Reed.[/quote]

There are too many team needs to fill them all via the draft. Some needs must be filled in FA. Apparently, this is one of them.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=metalskins;1190359]I don't really understand all of this legal tampering window mess and announcing these big time signing a day before free agency officially begins. I thought the way free agency was structured is that nobody can officially say anything or make any deals until the clock strikes 4pm on the day of free agency, yet, here we are hearing about all of these big time signings.[/quote]

Nothing changed and it is more of the same. This has been going on for years before the 'legal tampering' was permitted. Only the league could not do anything about it. I remember the days when the new league year started at 4:00 PM EST. And at 4:05 there was a ton of press releases announcing signings. Those deals are not negotiated in 5 minutes. They just could not sign the contract until 4:00. In other words, those deals were struck way beforehand......aka, tampering.

NFL knew they could not do anything about it, so they 'legalized' it.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Joe Thomas set to retire per ESPN...


So when the team actually makes good moves he leaves... Got it


Joe Thomas gave up 30 sacks in his 11-year career (6,680 pass-block snaps).

His replacement, Spencer Drango, allowed 11 sacks in 11 games

@pff

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190594]Joe Thomas set to retire per ESPN...


So when the team actually makes good moves he leaves... Got it


Joe Thomas gave up 30 sacks in his 11-year career (6,680 pass-block snaps).

His replacement, Spencer Drango, allowed 11 sacks in 11 games

@pff[/quote]

Could have had a ring when Denver tried to trade for him when Manning was there. It may have been the year Denver won the SB.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Trent Murphy to the Bills 3yr/$21M

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Eric Ebron released

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Tons of our players are getting paid.

Who gets the credit for the good draft picks? Bruce All....?

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Niles Paul to jags

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=DYoungJelly;1190644]Tons of our players are getting paid.

Who gets the credit for the good draft picks? Bruce All....?[/quote]

So why was the Qb who shall not be mention any different?

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

#Browns and former #Raiders CB T.J. Carrie agreed on a 4-year, $31m deal ($7.75m APY). Includes $10m fully gtd at signing.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Grudens first trade?

For Vontaze Burfict according to reports..

[url]https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/3/14/17121294/report-bengals-working-vontaze-burfict-trade-raiders-nfl-news[/url]

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Tyrann Mathieu.

Git er dun

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190651]Grudens first trade?

For Vontaze Burfict according to reports..

[url]https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/3/14/17121294/report-bengals-working-vontaze-burfict-trade-raiders-nfl-news[/url][/quote]

Absolutely perfect spot for Burfict...gruden wants to bring nastiness and fearlessness back to that Raiders defense again. Good move

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190630]Eric Ebron released[/quote]

Pass. I'd rather draft a TE.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=Giantone;1190553]After losing the guard to the Jags they knew they had to come off some money.Not sure if I like this ,is it an up grade yes but he hasn't been to a "pro bowl".Now the Giants should trade down get picks and get the guard from ND Nelson. I would offer ODB to the Browns for their #1 and get Barkley and Nelson at # 2.[/quote]

Good Lord, Cleveland isn't that dumb. I don't think.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=simbosargos75;1190659]Good Lord, Cleveland isn't that dumb. I don't think.[/quote]

I don’t know if anybody would trade for her right now...not with the massive contract coming and the big injury. She is gonna have to prove it on the field this year.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Eric Reid is available now

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=30gut;1190665]Eric Reid is available now[/quote]

bust

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=Chico23231;1190661]I don’t know if anybody would trade for her right now...not with the massive contract coming and the big injury. She is gonna have to prove it on the field this year.[/quote]

Yeah, I was going to say Cleveland would counter with #1 for OBJ & #2. I don't even know if they'd do that. I wouldn't want him personally with his new contract as you stated.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190666]bust[/quote]Lol

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

Jordan Schultz
‏
Verified account

@Schultz_Report
47m47 minutes ago
#Dolphins are officially releasing TE Julius Thomas, per league source. Another pass-catcher on the open market.

Not sure we need or don't need a TE, but with NP gone, and in case Reed isn't healthy?

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

All I care about right now is getting honey badger. Make it so Nimber One!

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=SkinzWin;1190676]All I care about right now is getting honey badger. Make it so Nimber One![/quote]

This right here.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1190676]All I care about right now is getting honey badger. Make it so Nimber One![/QUOTE]Great player.

Not sure I want him at 14M/y though.

We only have 20M and a draft with no 3rd round to find at least 2 DL, 1 ILB, 2 OL, 1 CB, 1 RB... and that's just starters or absolutely essential back ups...

Envoyé de mon SM-J320FN en utilisant Tapatalk

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=FrenchSkin;1190685]Great player.

Not sure I want him at 14M/y though.

We only have 20M and a draft with no 3rd round to find at least 2 DL, 1 ILB, 2 OL, 1 CB, 1 RB... and that's just starters or absolutely essential back ups...

Envoyé de mon SM-J320FN en utilisant Tapatalk[/quote]

I really want to know why everyone thinks that high level FAs should all be signed for like 5 million at best?

Mathieu is 25, can play CB, S, the slot, and in the box. I absolutely want him.

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1190686]I really want to know why everyone thinks that high level FAs should all be signed for like 5 million at best?

Mathieu is 25, can play CB, S, the slot, and in the box. I absolutely want him.[/quote]

Ditto. Talent warrants money. Dude is talented, loves football, and has a knack for the job.

Pay him!

Re: Around the NFL: Free agent signings 2018
 

[quote=Chico23231;1190661]I don’t know if anybody would trade for her right now...not with the massive contract coming and the big injury. She is gonna have to prove it on the field this year.[/quote]



............you just never know sweetheart:food-smil