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Burgold 09-17-2018 11:35 AM

Re: Colts-Redskins Postgame Thread
 
[quote=mooby;1200485][URL="https://www.richmond.com/sports/redskins/redskins-observations-sellout-streak-ends-after-years-not-that-there/article_aa62b158-b9e5-11e8-8703-bb8647888651.html"]After 50 years the sellout streak is over.[/URL] TBH I'm surprised it took this long. If you can't fill the stadium on your home opener a week after a dominating win, it obviously speaks to the long-term decline of the team.


Credit to u/TheFart_ of Reddit for this shot. Embarrassing, but par for the course when you [URL="https://www.cbsnews.com/media/5-least-and-most-expensive-stadiums-to-watch-an-nfl-game/11/"]lead the league in highest average cost[/URL] of attending a game.
[IMG]https://i.redd.it/nk87jzvcenm11.jpg[/IMG][/quote]Thank you,I was about to post on it myself,I go back to the[Lombardi]era and don't recall EVER seeing the stadium that empty especially after a win and the crowd didn't seem to be much into the game either,Snyder better do something because the fanbase is sending him a message and he better read the handwriting on the wall.

MTK 09-17-2018 11:38 AM

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I'd imagine the storm had some sort of impact on attendance but "home field" has been a problem since we moved from RFK

Chico23231 09-17-2018 11:39 AM

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In the words of Bigly:

Sad!

Defensewins 09-17-2018 11:54 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1200585]My problem is this, say we want to move on from Jay Gruden, Do you have any faith in Dan and Bruce to make a competent decision at HC? I don't. This organization has a terrible reputation and attracted talent to come here is much tougher than other places.

Kyle Shanny...and McVay...2 young, up and coming HC. We couldn't recognize it and let them walk. In fact, Dan Snyder and Kyle Shanny hated each other, so its that inability as a organization to even operate as a professional organization.[/quote]

The root cause of the problems is higher than Gruden.
Allen must go. This is a major problem:
[URL="https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/19/redskins-bruce-allen-are-least-trusted-team-in-the-nfl-poll-of-nfl-agents-finds/"]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/19/redskins-bruce-allen-are-least-trusted-team-in-the-nfl-poll-of-nfl-agents-finds/[/URL]

This combined with losing should get him fired.
"The Washington Redskins and Bruce Allen rank among the league’s worst in preparedness and trustworthiness, at least according to a new poll."
I think Snyder has more patience with people he has hired directly and especially a person that is the son of the late great George Allen. If Bruce's last name was not Allen, he would be fired at the end of this year. I am not sure that will happen even if we have a sub .500 record this year.
I know all of the Snyder and Allen apologists will say he has drafted well. I disagree. Being the son of a great Footbal man like George Allen does not make you qualified to be an NFL GM. Either does Gruden being the brother of an NFL coach that won the Super Bowl.

jamf 09-17-2018 11:58 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1200602]LOL@ this play calling.

[url]https://twitter.com/michaelpRTD/status/1041379354431897600[/url][/quote]

I love me some Chris Thompson but he did not beat one guy 1 on 1 all game.
On this play, he has one man to beat and he just doesn't do it.

This is the same shit we had with Alfred Morris. He is a guy who can run through a hole but isn't going to make anyone miss.

We are in desperate need of a few playmaker.

skinsfan69 09-17-2018 12:04 PM

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We have seen just about 5 years from Gruden. He will never be a great hc. He can't even make simple in game adjustments.

jamf 09-17-2018 12:06 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1200601]here is the opening line from PFF:

Presented with a favorable matchup against a backup left tackle, Preston Smith failed to deliver for the Washington pass-rush with his only noteworthy play coming on a quick hit after beating Le’Raven Clark in the third quarter.[/quote]

I'm not a fan of Smith but the Colts did a good job protecting their LT and QB with quick passes.

Not sure what we were doing on offense.

MTK 09-17-2018 12:07 PM

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I say let's talk about the HC, drafts, front office, etc. after the season. One loss isn't the end of the world just like one win doesn't mean we're going to the Super Bowl. Take a breath folks.

skinsfan69 09-17-2018 12:26 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1200601]here is the opening line from PFF:

Presented with a favorable matchup against a backup left tackle, Preston Smith failed to deliver for the Washington pass-rush with his only noteworthy play coming on a quick hit after beating Le’Raven Clark in the third quarter.[/quote]

And this is exactly why you don't give Smith a LTD. He's a JAG w/ nice rims, looks good on the outside but it has a bad motor.

skinsfan69 09-17-2018 12:28 PM

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[quote=MTK;1200610]I say let's talk about the HC, drafts, front office, etc. after the season. One loss isn't the end of the world just like one win doesn't mean we're going to the Super Bowl. Take a breath folks.[/quote]

This is the 5th year of having games like this.

KI Skins Fan 09-17-2018 12:33 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1200601]here is the opening line from PFF:

Presented with a favorable matchup against a backup left tackle, Preston Smith failed to deliver for the Washington pass-rush with his only noteworthy play coming on a quick hit after beating Le’Raven Clark in the third quarter.[/quote]

Preston Smith is a bust. They didn't even mention that he was abused on running plays, too.

Also, Doctson had another nothing game.

I'm not a negative person but it's obvious to me that these two guys can't play.

Irrefutable 09-17-2018 12:35 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1200597]1st sign they might be done with Doctson?

Adam Schefter

Verified account

@AdamSchefter
33m33 minutes ago
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Former Ravens' first-round pick Breshad Perriman is working out today for the Washington Redskins, per source.

not that Perriman is any better...[/quote]

This is a sign of desperation and a poor GM. Perriman has had a terrible career and 4 teams have worked him out and not signed him.

Meks 09-17-2018 12:36 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200534]Whole offense was trash today. OLine, wrs, backs etc. Smith is not a gunslinger nor should he be, we don't need a guy throwing 400 yards, we had that and what did it do for us? Nothing. We are an avg team, but one thing is for sure, we have no pass rush. Where is Ryan Kerrigan?? This is why I said I would trade for mack

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i wish we traded for mack - but the money would be tight after that .....

i dont really know what to say after that fucking game.

irish 09-17-2018 12:44 PM

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[quote=Burgold;1200603]Thank you,I was about to post on it myself,I go back to the[Lombardi]era and don't recall EVER seeing the stadium that empty especially after a win and the crowd didn't seem to be much into the game either,Snyder better do something because the fanbase is sending him a message and he better read the handwriting on the wall.[/quote]

This organization or any organization is crazy to build a stadium larger than 60K. I don't see Millennials as interested in spending an entire Sunday sitting in a stadium watching a game no matter how many party pavilions and big screens are available.

Meks 09-17-2018 12:51 PM

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[quote=irish;1200616]This organization or any organization is crazy to build a stadium larger than 60K. I don't see Millennials as interested in spending an entire Sunday sitting in a stadium watching a game no matter how many party pavilions and big screens are available.[/quote]

buncha clowns IMO but hey, thats how society wishes to propel itself so, so be it.

metalskins 09-17-2018 12:57 PM

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Yesterday was pretty terrible. I thought playcalling was terrible, the offensive line play was terrible, even Trent Williams committed some stupid penalties, and of course, our wide receiver play was terrible.

At least our defense started to shut things down, but they looked horrid at the start of the game. A complete 180 from what the 'skins looked like last week. And judging by how the Cards got spanked yesterday, I'm starting to feel like, maybe, week one was actually a gimme game more than I'm willing to admit.

Looking at the next few weeks, the Packers, Saints, and then Panthers? Don't quite know what to think of the Panthers just yet, but the Packers and Saints? Can this team really afford to go through the first quarter of the season at 1-3?

skinsfaninok 09-17-2018 12:59 PM

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[quote=metalskins;1200620]Yesterday was pretty terrible. I thought playcalling was terrible, the offensive line play was terrible, even Trent Williams committed some stupid penalties, and of course, our wide receiver play was terrible.

At least our defense started to shut things down, but they looked horrid at the start of the game. A complete 180 from what the 'skins looked like last week. And judging by how the Cards got spanked yesterday, I'm starting to feel like, maybe, week one was actually a gimme game more than I'm willing to admit.

Looking at the next few weeks, the Packers, Saints, and then Panthers? Don't quite know what to think of the Panthers just yet, but the Packers and Saints? Can this team really afford to go through the first quarter of the season at 1-3?[/quote]


The Bucs are also 2-0, its still way too early to look at the teams ahead, I just dont see us at better than 9-7 or worse than 7-9. It's basically the same as it has been

skinsfan69 09-17-2018 01:01 PM

Re: Colts-Redskins Postgame Thread
 
Packers aren't that good. We should have beaten the Saints last year if the coaches didn't piss the game away. We can win one out of two. Carolina is a loss.

FrenchSkin 09-17-2018 01:05 PM

Re: Colts-Redskins Postgame Thread
 
[quote=irish;1200616]This organization or any organization is crazy to build a stadium larger than 60K. [B]I don't see Millennials as interested in spending an entire Sunday sitting in a stadium watching a game[/B] no matter how many party pavilions and big screens are available.[/quote]

And people will complain the NFL moves a few games to Europe ...

FrenchSkin 09-17-2018 01:07 PM

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[quote=MTK;1200610]I say let's talk about the HC, drafts, front office, etc. after the season. One loss isn't the end of the world just like one win doesn't mean we're going to the Super Bowl. Take a breath folks.[/quote]

Agreed. Even if Jay is starting to have a pretty solid history of unpreparedness behind him, firing him after one loss, or even mid-season, wouldn't solve anything.

sdskinsfan2001 09-17-2018 01:10 PM

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Do we have a good offensive line or not? This group is just bi-polar. They were absolutely terrible yesterday. Moses stood out the most. #93 took his lunch money, kicked his dog, and slept with his girl.

Can we rush the passer from outside? Earth to Kerrigan and Smith. We still need an elite rusher. Love Kerrigan, but he is a super high end #2 guy imo.

sdskinsfan2001 09-17-2018 01:13 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1200623]And people will complain the NFL moves a few games to Europe ...[/quote]

I think I'm considered a millennial, born in 1983, but I'm an old soul I guess, because hanging out in a party pavilion watching a Skins game all day sounds amazing (if they don't play like yesterday).

FrenchSkin 09-17-2018 01:37 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1200626]I think I'm considered a millennial, born in 1983, but I'm an old soul I guess, because hanging out in a party pavilion watching a Skins game all day sounds amazing (if they don't play like yesterday).[/quote]

Same here, born in 1990, I'm planning to cross an ocean to watch a Skins game, and I don't need any big screen or fancy feature. Watching the game is what I'm coming for!

skinsfaninok 09-17-2018 02:05 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1200627]Same here, born in 1990, I'm planning to cross an ocean to watch a Skins game, and I don't need any big screen or fancy feature. Watching the game is what I'm coming for![/quote]

87 here and I like both but I'm prob done spending money on tickets and travel to skins games for a while. This will be my first time in 5 years not going to one game

FrenchSkin 09-17-2018 02:28 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1200628]87 here and I like both but I'm prob done spending money on tickets and travel to skins games for a while. This will be my first time in 5 years not going to one game[/quote]

I can understand that, if you went to a lot of games and the team lets you down and you get stuck in traffic for hours, it can get frustrating and tiring... But I have a hard time with the "the stadium doesn't have enough screens or party stuffs and electronic devices for me to go to a game" speech...

Chico23231 09-17-2018 02:43 PM

Re: Colts-Redskins Postgame Thread
 
a Day after and I still cant believe just how bad the offense was executed, the bad game plan and the poor O-line play.

We need to get a Left Guard immediately this offseason. no more excuses

jamf 09-17-2018 02:51 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1200631]a Day after and I still cant believe just how bad the offense was executed, the bad game plan and the poor O-line play.

We need to get a Left Guard immediately this offseason. no more excuses[/quote]

Why the team didn't address this is bizarre.
We have 10M in cap space. We shouldn't have to get a bargain basement player at all positions.

We paid for Richardson and Pryor.
We didn't pay for Garcon and Jackson(NFL Leading WR).

FU Bruce Allen.

Meks 09-17-2018 03:02 PM

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[quote=jamf;1200633]Why the team didn't address this is bizarre.
We have 10M in cap space. We shouldn't have to get a bargain basement player at all positions.

We paid for Richardson and Pryor.
We didn't pay for Garcon and Jackson(NFL Leading WR).

FU Bruce Allen.[/quote]

right. Allen should have been fired years ago. Whole franchise is a ridiculous suck fest

Defensewins 09-17-2018 03:26 PM

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[quote=jamf;1200633]Why the team didn't address this is bizarre.
We have 10M in cap space. We shouldn't have to get a bargain basement player at all positions.

We paid for Richardson and Pryor.
We didn't pay for Garcon and Jackson(NFL Leading WR).

FU Bruce Allen.[/quote]

Exactly right!

sevier2 09-17-2018 04:14 PM

Re: Colts-Redskins Postgame Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1200631]a Day after and I still cant believe just how bad the offense was executed, the bad game plan and the poor O-line play.

We need to get a Left Guard immediately this offseason. no more excuses[/quote]

I was baffled the DAY we signed Lauvao, in all honesty. FA opens up, teams are making moves and the Skins sign.... The Browns LG??

He's lucky the Skins even brought him back cause without our pitiful depth he'd be out of the league right now.

Mind you, we let Spencer Long leave this past free-agency. I understand he got paid but i'd much rather have kept and converted him to LG rather then what we have in Lauvao. The dude is a consistent joke getting put on his ass week-in and week-out.

Now, I'm not one to be negative and I won't overreact to one loss in Week 2...

BUT, I said last week before the Colts game that if this team wants to be considered serious playoff contenders they needed to come out and look sharp. They absolutely could not come out looking flat and lethargic against a banged up colts team. And that's exactly what they did. It almost looked like the Skins didn't even want to be there. Multiple penalties, Fumbles, absolutely ZERO passing game, etc. It was an embarrassment.

Things need to turn around QUICKLY or it's gong to be another LONG season.

metalskins 09-17-2018 04:23 PM

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So, attendance was somewhere around 57,000+ yesterday. I noticed the stands were barely half full. This is a season home opener, WTF? Florence was nowhere near Maryland, in fact the weather looked to be perfect there yesterday. What is the deal? Are the fans saying they have finally had enough? Is this a sign of things to come, or was this just an exception to the rule?

Ruhskins 09-17-2018 04:25 PM

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A day after and seeing what's happening around the league, there are a number of teams that looked good in week 1 and stunk it up in week 2.

I'm not saying all is well, but we're not the only ones. Keep in mind that this is the week that Blake Bortles outplayed Tom Brady and Doug Marone outcoached Bill Belichick.

We're 1-1 and tied with two other teams for 1st place in the NFC East. The team needs to get their shit together and move on to week 3.

Ruhskins 09-17-2018 04:27 PM

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[quote=metalskins;1200642]So, attendance was somewhere around 57,000+ yesterday. I noticed the stands were barely half full. This is a season home opener, WTF? [B]Florence was nowhere near Maryland[/B], in fact the weather looked to be perfect there yesterday. What is the deal? Are the fans saying they have finally had enough? Is this a sign of things to come, or was this just an exception to the rule?[/quote]

A lot of people were acting like Florence was going to affect Maryland for some reason.

DynamiteRave 09-17-2018 05:42 PM

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1200642]So, attendance was somewhere around 57,000+ yesterday. I noticed the stands were barely half full. This is a season home opener, WTF? Florence was nowhere near Maryland, in fact the weather looked to be perfect there yesterday. What is the deal? Are the fans saying they have finally had enough? Is this a sign of things to come, or was this just an exception to the rule?[/QUOTE]



I’m pretty sure about 10,000 of those were Colts fans judging from the Let’s Go Colts cheers in the 4th.


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skinsfan69 09-17-2018 06:06 PM

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[quote=jamf;1200633][B]Why the team didn't address this is bizarre. [/B]
We have 10M in cap space. We shouldn't have to get a bargain basement player at all positions.

We paid for Richardson and Pryor.
We didn't pay for Garcon and Jackson(NFL Leading WR).

FU Bruce Allen.[/quote]

They did address it by resigning Arie K and he was going to be the starter. I would say that it was a poor attempt to address the position but they did try.

skinsfan69 09-17-2018 06:09 PM

Re: Colts-Redskins Postgame Thread
 
Lauvao is good at pulling in the run game it seems. In pass pro he is just a total waste of space. He can't keep his feet underneath him. It's really embarrassing how bad he can be.

skinsfan69 09-17-2018 06:11 PM

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Apparently they tried to trade for Gordon but ended up w/ Perriman, eeewww. This is sad. Where is Mo Harris? His concussion has lasted for a while.

calia 09-17-2018 07:48 PM

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Perriman and Michael Floyd - unless either plays special teams, this doesn’t move the dial at all. I would have preferred Aldrick Robinson who signed with the Vikings today. Dang.


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Randall Nestor 09-17-2018 07:59 PM

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I was at the game and it was very hard to watch. Lauvao is the weak link, but he isn't he only problem with this line. Morgan Moses gets a new contract last year (I think) and plays worse. Do you think that some players get their payday and stop working? It seems like we give out those contracts and players play worse here than before we sign them. Example Paul R, Terell Pryor, Morgan Moses etc. We need better o-lineman, wr, rb, franchise qb. I believe Guice will help the running game, but not enough with this line. When a 30 some year old guy can come in and start at rb for our team that should tell us about our other rb's. I like AP but he is know where near what he used to be. It seems like it hurts the fans more than some of the players when they lose.

skinsfaninok 09-17-2018 08:14 PM

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[QUOTE=Randall Nestor;1200654]I was at the game and it was very hard to watch. Lauvao is the weak link, but he isn't he only problem with this line. Morgan Moses gets a new contract last year (I think) and plays worse. Do you think that some players get their payday and stop working? It seems like we give out those contracts and players play worse here than before we sign them. Example Paul R, Terell Pryor, Morgan Moses etc. We need better o-lineman, wr, rb, franchise qb. I believe Guice will help the running game, but not enough with this line. When a 30 some year old guy can come in and start at rb for our team that should tell us about our other rb's. I like AP but he is know where near what he used to be. It seems like it hurts the fans more than some of the players when they lose.[/QUOTE]I went to the skins boys game last year, it was a joke. More Dallas fans than skins fans, I won't go back to fedex, worst stadium I've been too.

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