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htownskinfan 11-10-2018 08:49 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1206402]After the Atlanta game I was very pessimistic about the upcoming one.

But as the week moves forward I've had a couple of thoughts that gave me hope:

1) We know this defense is way better than what they showed last week, and they reacted very well after being humiliated by the Saints. So I hope they come out angry and hungry, and create turnovers, which Fitz can give you even without a lot of pressure.

2) Mike Evans is big and tough, Jackson is fast, but this receiving corps is nowhere near Julio, Sanu and Ridley. Fitzpatrick is not Matt Ryan, and Peyton F'nin Barber is nowhere near Telvin Coleman.

3) The run game didn't get going last week mainly because of missed blocking assignments. I'm not saying Bergstrom and Christian are even close to Scherff and Moses, but apart from a couple of plays they were not getting embarrassed the way we thought they would. So after a week of practicing in whatever starting line up they'll be, they should be able to do at least enough to give AP a chance to carry this offense on his back.

4) F' it, sip of Kool Aid, Burgundy glasses on, Skins 21 Suckaneers 13, HTTR !

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I don’t agree this defense is way better than they showed last week.They have shown That they are good against the run, but wilt against teams with high powered passing attacks.
While Fitz is no Matt Ryan,he leads NFL in ypa,and he is playing pretty damn good this year.
Bucs can’t run the ball and we have shown that we are good at stopping the run, so I doubt if the bucs even try that hard to run against us,would you?
Tampa is 8th in scoring,we are 25th,Alex Smith cannot win in a shootout with Fitzmagic.
If, and that’s a big if, this patchwork offensive line can somehow come together and get Peterson 100 yards and we can control the clock then we have a chance, if not I think this could be another blowout we cannot stop their passing attack (of course with Fitzmagic,there’s always that chance he will be Fitztragic and throw 4 interceptions,lets hope)

Buffalo Bob 11-10-2018 08:54 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1206469][url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/josh-norman-dance-local-performance-nutcracker[/url]


[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1206475]This article left me practically speechless. Is this guy even serious about football?[/quote]

I saw "nutcracker" and I thought about the old school nutcracker football drill, that would never be done during a season. I thought someone was calling Gruden out for risking player's health.

Chico23231 11-10-2018 09:14 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1206475]This article left me practically speechless. Is this guy even serious about football?[/quote]

Meh...things like this don’t bother me. Josh isn’t the problem with the team.

5superbowls3wins 11-10-2018 09:15 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
Lol. Our QB is garbage. I miss the offense we had with Cousins and McVay.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/11/09/jay-gruden-alex-smith-feeling-more-comfortable/amp/[/url]


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5superbowls3wins 11-10-2018 09:17 AM

Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
Anyone wonder what Snyder, Allen, and Gruden are thinking watching McVay in LA? It reminds you of the Browns and Bellichek


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KI Skins Fan 11-10-2018 09:18 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
One key thing Atlanta did last week was to neutralize our best defensive players by double-teaming our good young defensive linemen. Look where most of our pressure and sacks have come from this season. It was a good plan by the Atlanta coaches and it worked, so I would expect to see more of the same from Tampa Bay this week.

KI Skins Fan 11-10-2018 09:26 AM

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Also, last week Atlanta ran more uncalled illegal pick plays than I've ever seen. So, this week the Redskins defensive players need to take matters into their own hands and knock the living crap out of any receiver who comes inside to pick them. One or two knockout blows should handle that problem.

DYoungJelly 11-10-2018 09:38 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1206475]This article left me practically speechless. Is this guy even serious about football?[/QUOTE] The opening performance is in the middle of week 14.

I have no idea if it is a big deal or not important at all but I don't think it helps win a football game.

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Buffalo Bob 11-10-2018 12:08 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1206482]Also, last week Atlanta ran more uncalled illegal pick plays than I've ever seen. So, this week the Redskins defensive players need to take matters into their own hands and knock the living crap out of any receiver who comes inside to pick them. One or two knockout blows should handle that problem.[/quote]

On the other hand smart players and coaches test the waters and see what they can get away with when it comes to pushing the boundaries of the rules and adapt accordingly.

htownskinfan 11-10-2018 12:18 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=Chico23231;1206478]Meh...things like this don’t bother me. Josh isn’t the problem with the team.[/quote]

Really? He's been benched once,pass defense sucks,he's definitely part of the problem,he will be gone next year

htownskinfan 11-10-2018 12:30 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1206483]The opening performance is in the middle of week 14.

I have no idea if it is a big deal or not important at all [B][I]but I don't think it helps win a football game. [/I][/B]

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Exactly! How much practice and prep away from team is it going to take? If it's just show up and dance{which I highly doubt}that's fine,but what if we are actually in the playoff hunt? Dude needs to be watching film or something,cause IMO he's stinking it up this yr,he's had 1 good game this year

FrenchSkin 11-10-2018 01:22 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1206476]I don’t agree this defense is way better than they showed last week.They have shown That they are good against the run, but wilt against teams with high powered passing attacks.
While Fitz is no Matt Ryan,he leads NFL in ypa,and he is playing pretty damn good this year.
Bucs can’t run the ball and we have shown that we are good at stopping the run, so I doubt if the bucs even try that hard to run against us,would you?
Tampa is 8th in scoring,we are 25th,Alex Smith cannot win in a shootout with Fitzmagic.
If, and that’s a big if, this patchwork offensive line can somehow come together and get Peterson 100 yards and we can control the clock then we have a chance, if not I think this could be another blowout we cannot stop their passing attack ([B]of course with Fitzmagic,there’s always that chance he will be Fitztragic and throw 4 interceptions,lets hope)[/B][/quote]

I'm definitely hoping our D can force Ryan into Fitztragic mode and get some turnovers.

And I know the 2 times they faced legit pass heavy teams (Saints and Falcons) this D looked like crap, but I still think they're better than that: against the Saints there was quite a lot of blown coverage and stupid mistakes, against the Falcons the front 7 played their worst game of the season, both against the run and the pass, if you take away the stupid Josh PI and the humiliating Ridley TD were all 11 defenders screwed up, I think the secondary did OK against a really good receiving corps.
So I really don't think this D can not defend the pass.

htownskinfan 11-10-2018 04:04 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1206488]I'm definitely hoping our D can force Ryan into Fitztragic mode and get some turnovers.

And I know the 2 times they faced legit pass heavy teams (Saints and Falcons) this D looked like crap, but I still think they're better than that: against the Saints there was quite a lot of blown coverage and stupid mistakes, against the Falcons the front 7 played their worst game of the season, both against the run and the pass, if you take away the stupid Josh PI and the humiliating Ridley TD were all 11 defenders screwed up, I think the secondary did OK against a really good receiving corps.
So I really don't think this D can not defend the pass.[/quote]

This secondary has blown coverages in what seems like every game,where receivers have been running wide fking open,fortunately in our wins we were able to overcome those blown coverages,and I will be thoroughly surprised if we dont have more of the same thing tomorrow.

jamf 11-11-2018 02:57 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1206486]Really? He's been benched once,pass defense sucks,he's definitely part of the problem,he will be gone next year[/quote]

He gave up plays against 2 of the top 4 WRs in the game. Everyone is giving up plays to those guys. Mike Evans is another Beast at WR.

How about you put some blame on that bum Preston smith who doesn’t have one god damn sack in 8 games.

jamf 11-11-2018 03:01 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=htownskinfan;1206494]This secondary has blown coverages in what seems like every game,where receivers have been running wide fking open,fortunately in our wins we were able to overcome those blown coverages,and I will be thoroughly surprised if we dont have more of the same thing tomorrow.[/quote]

Yes to blown coverages but it starts with the pass rush.

If their qb gets time, we will get lit up.
We don’t have corners that can run with these guys.

htownskinfan 11-11-2018 08:58 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[quote=jamf;1206497]He gave up plays against 2 of the top 4 WRs in the game. Everyone is giving up plays to those guys. Mike Evans is another Beast at WR.

How about you put some blame on that bum Preston smith who doesn’t have one god damn sack in 8 games.[/quote]

Preston Smith is not getting a free pass,But we were not discussing Smith.Norman has been sucking all year IMO,he had 1 good game against Carolina and thats it.He's the highest paid corner in the league and he's not even the best corner on our team.

skinsfan69 11-11-2018 10:36 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
Preston is who he is at this point.

SFREDSKIN 11-11-2018 11:49 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
Daron Payne vs Vita Vea, I say we did ok.

SFREDSKIN 11-11-2018 11:52 AM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
Redskins inactives: CB Quinton Dunbar, WR Jamison Crowder, LT Trent Williams, LB Zach Vigil, LB Pernell McPhee, DL Caleb Brantley. The lone surprise is McPhee but the Redskins signed Cassanova McKinzy off their practice squad Friday.

calia 11-11-2018 12:03 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1206502]Preston is who he is at this point.[/QUOTE]



He’s played himself out of a big contract. He’ll be overpaid by someone but hasn’t been more than serviceable this year. Pressures are good but it’s just not enough.


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calia 11-11-2018 12:05 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1206506]Redskins inactives: CB Quinton Dunbar, WR Jamison Crowder, LT Trent Williams, LB Zach Vigil, LB Pernell McPhee, DL Caleb Brantley. The lone surprise is McPhee but the Redskins signed Cassanova McKinzy off their practice squad Friday.[/QUOTE]



Not good re Dunbar. Tampa’s WRs are legit. I hope Moreau really steps up. We need pressure on the front end to give the back end some relief. Safety help will be key today and I hope HHCD has mastered the scheme.


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skinsfaninok 11-11-2018 12:27 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
Crowder might as well sit the rest of the yr. He's made of glass anyway. We better go get 3 Wrs this off-season.

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punch it in 11-11-2018 12:37 PM

Re: Moving on to Fitzmagic
 
Of course the football Gods will make me pay attention for at least another week by televising this game in NJ. Gee thanks.


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