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[quote=Chico23231;1207374]And I just heard Shawne Merriman on ESPN state the Cowboys still have the best chance to win the East.


Fuck these haters[/quote]

Can you blame them for believing that? We're 6-3 with a two game lead within the division. But lets be real for a second. We don't have a good team. Our offense is trash. We was trash on offense before the injuries started piling up. Our defense is good, but definitely not great. Outside of the front three and our safeties. There is nothing special about our defense. Our coaches are average at best. The Cowboys and Eagles look like better teams.

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[quote=httr198020;1207375]Can you blame them for believing that? We're 6-3 with a two game lead within the division. But lets be real for a second. We don't have a good team. Our offense is trash. We was trash on offense before the injuries started piling up. Our defense is good, but definitely not great. Outside of the front three and our safeties. There is nothing special about our defense. Our coaches are average at best. The Cowboys and Eagles look like better teams.[/quote]

A defense that shutdown one of the top offenses on the road last week? The defense you dismiss...the record, stats don't support support your argument. Swearinger, Zach Brown been playing at a all pro level...HaHa, who was shutdown last week, has been playing like probowler. The Dline forms like voltron and are one of the best units in the league. Kerrigan extremely solid as well as Dunbar. The corner play has been above average as a whole.

The offense for their struggles still have been able to move the ball on the ground. AP has been excellent. If we can get Trent, Crowder, and CT back for the stretch run...I feel confident.

The Eagles and Cowboys are better? Not so far this year...but we will find out. Both are about to get fucked with weekend with no Vaseline. bet on it.

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Sorry but we do have a good team. Good enough to be 6-3. We don't have to apologize for that.

Getting tired of fans crapping on the coaches too. With all the injuries piling up and to be 6-3 you have to tip your hat to them for holding it together. Especially with the OL issues.

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[quote=httr198020;1207375]Can you blame them for believing that? We're 6-3 with a two game lead within the division. But lets be real for a second. We don't have a good team. Our offense is trash. We was trash on offense before the injuries started piling up. Our defense is good, but definitely not great. Outside of the front three and our safeties. There is nothing special about our defense. Our coaches are average at best. The Cowboys and Eagles look like better teams.[/quote]

Mason Foster and ZB are 2 of the best LBers in football.

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Maybe I am drinking too much kool-aid lately but when I look at the Dallas and Philly schedule I just don't see a for sure 9-7 record. Both have to go 5-2 in their last seven that is a tall order for any team. The Skins to get the same mark only have to go 3-4.

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[quote=MTK;1207378]Sorry but we do have a good team. Good enough to be 6-3. We don't have to apologize for that.

Getting tired of fans crapping on the coaches too. [B]With all the injuries piling up[/B] and to be 6-3 you have to tip your hat to them for holding it together. Especially with the OL issues.[/quote]

There are so many armchair GMs/fortune tellers that have these unreasonable expectations of the team, it's ridiculous.

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Trent was at practice today doing drills, I bet he's back for Thanksgiving.

Update per Jay

Dunbar , TW and Hopkins are all Questionable.

Crowder and CT are out

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1207379]Mason Foster and ZB are 2 of the best LBers in football.[/QUOTE]Yeah it's ridiculous how under rated some of our guys are... Mason is one of them. Norman is another IMO. Take away the PI on Julio and he's been borderline perfect since the Saints game. Don't have a link cause I heard it on Cooley's podcast but against TB I think he gave up something like 1 completion on 4 targets and had the INT. ..

But yeah our defense is "not so good". So "not so good" that we are 6 and 3 with an offense that can't score 20 pts per game... this is ridiculous.

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The reason why we are getting so much hate is because on national TV we were simply not competitive against the Saints. Not competitive against Atl and they just lost to the Browns. Loss at home against the Colts. We have 3 really bad losses. Tampa rolled up 500 yards and we were under 300 w/ 16 points, w/ the d getting 4 turnovers against a terrible defense. Sorry but these are legit reasons. We're a weak 6-3 team. It is what it is folks.

As far as the coaching, it's pretty average and we all know that. It's not news that this is not considered a top staff.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1207388]The reason why we are getting so much hate is because on national TV we were simply not competitive against the Saints. Not competitive against Atl and they just lost to the Browns. Loss at home against the Colts. We have 3 really bad losses. Tampa rolled up 500 yards and we were under 300 w/ 16 points, w/ the d getting 4 turnovers against a terrible defense. Sorry but these are legit reasons. We're a weak 6-3 team. It is what it is folks.

As far as the coaching, it's pretty average and we all know that. It's not news that this is not considered a top staff.[/quote]

NFL is a passing/offense driven league, so they are not going to care about a strong defensive team that runs the ball well. Plain and simple.

The Redskins could have a good run and finish with a strong 11-5 or 10-6 record, and they would still not give the team any credit, because it is not a popular team.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1207383]Trent was at practice today doing drills, I bet he's back for Thanksgiving.

Update per Jay

Dunbar , TW and Hopkins are all Questionable.

Crowder and CT are out[/quote]

TW is a warrior, but I am not sure how I feel about him playing. I'd rather he come back 100% (or as close to it as possible) against the Pukes, as that is a far more important game for us.

Beating Dallas at home would silence some of the haters (but not all, of course).

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TW is exactly that dude the Cowboys don’t want to see thanksgivings.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1207389]NFL is a passing/offense driven league, so they are not going to care about a strong defensive team that runs the ball well. Plain and simple.

The Redskins could have a good run and finish with a strong 11-5 or 10-6 record, and they would still not give the team any credit, because it is not a popular team.[/quote]

I don't know if I buy that. Seattle had some really good teams running the ball. We need to show better against the best teams to get respect. That starts Sunday against a hot Texans team.

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1207375]Can you blame them for believing that? We're 6-3 with a two game lead within the division. But lets be real for a second. We don't have a good team. Our offense is trash. We was trash on offense before the injuries started piling up. Our defense is good, but definitely not great. Outside of the front three and our safeties. There is nothing special about our defense. Our coaches are average at best. The Cowboys and Eagles look like better teams.[/QUOTE]



I agree with u very much. I have for weeks BUT we are winning. So once we get a couple players back we good. We r not going deep in the playoffs but we can go. If we win Sunday i will be a true believer. If its a good game even ill believe that once we get said players back we good. If we get blown out than its a facade.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1207382]There are so many armchair GMs/fortune tellers that have these unreasonable expectations of the team, it's ridiculous.[/QUOTE]



After the last 20 some odd years do you blame us/them? I mean it isn’t unreasonable to wish we had an owner who isn’t named Daniel Snyder - he has earned his disrespect mightily. Bruce Allen? Joke. Our team has been trashed twice. Our offense is not good and that was all year not just after the recent o line issues. Our defense SOMEHOW held Tampa to 3 points but come the fuck on they shot their foots right the fuck off - both of them. It is not unreasonable to wish we had a good team and in the weirdest of situations- outside of our record - it feels like we do not. You know contenders and pretenders stuff. So let the season play out.
It is also not unreal expectations to have addressed interior line - bringing lavaou back as a starter is not reasonable. Lol. At what point is it reasonable to want to compete for real?

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seriously ct is still out? are his ribs made of glass? what a fkn pussy. wtf crowder?? these guys are a fkn joke. put down your fkn purses and do your fkn jobs.

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[QUOTE=NorCall11;1207395]seriously ct is still out? are his ribs made of glass? what a fkn pussy. wtf crowder?? these guys are a fkn joke. put down your fkn purses and do your fkn jobs.[/QUOTE] Dude, CT is a little guy who takes a beating.

The type of injury he has, he can't breathe without pain much less block rushers, and take hits. He would not be effective injured.

He is plenty tough coming back from the injury he had last year.

Im always hesitant to say stuff like this on here, but that's just a stupid ass comment. Contributes nothing.

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So the latest is that TW might give it a go, Perine hurt his calf and is out and probably placed on IR and Marshall will be activated from IR.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1207394]After the last 20 some odd years do you blame us/them? I mean it isn’t unreasonable to wish we had an owner who isn’t named Daniel Snyder - he has earned his disrespect mightily. Bruce Allen? Joke. Our team has been trashed twice. Our offense is not good and that was all year not just after the recent o line issues. Our defense SOMEHOW held Tampa to 3 points but come the fuck on they shot their foots right the fuck off - both of them. It is not unreasonable to wish we had a good team and in the weirdest of situations- outside of our record - it feels like we do not. You know contenders and pretenders stuff. So let the season play out.
It is also not unreal expectations to have addressed interior line - bringing lavaou back as a starter is not reasonable. Lol. At what point is it reasonable to want to compete for real?[/QUOTE]



You’ve got some serious sand in your pussy bro

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For all the doubters, yes the Redskins strength is the D. We will beat Houston, Dallas and Philly, it won’t be easy, but we will be getting healthier. After 2 blowouts on D, I think they’ve learned their lesson and will play better. The O has no way but to improve.

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[quote=NorCall11;1207395]seriously ct is still out? are his ribs made of glass? what a fkn pussy. wtf crowder?? these guys are a fkn joke. put down your fkn purses and do your fkn jobs.[/quote]


[quote=DYoungJelly;1207396]Dude, CT is a little guy who takes a beating.

The type of injury he has, he can't breathe without pain much less block rushers, and take hits. He would not be effective injured.

He is plenty tough coming back from the injury he had last year.

[B]Im always hesitant to say stuff like this on here, but that's just a stupid ass comment. Contributes nothing.
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Totally agree, with injured ribs just doing light duties suck, a cough, sneeze or deep breath hurts quite a bit. There isn't any treatment other than taking it easy, they will never heal without rest.

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The guy has broken ribs. Trust me- I’ve done it. And breathing regularly hurts. I have no issues with his toughness. Durability yes but toughness no. There’s a difference.


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[quote=MTK;1207398]You’ve got some serious sand in your pussy bro[/quote]

:laughing2

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Bitching about 6-3? I can hardly believe it! Should I believe what our record says we are or should I believe the Skins-hating Talking Heads in the Media and the curmudgeons on this site who say we're really not any good? I'll believe our 6-3 record because that constitutes proof that we can win and the other noise is simply revisionist bullshit.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1207402]:laughing2[/QUOTE]



Wtf r u laughing at? You will be shitting all over Smith, Gruden, and the rest of them come Sunday as usual. Saying all the same shit I just did. I mean we beat the Buccaneers (excuse me the Buccaneers beat the Buccaneers) and you two think we are back on the map. Lmao.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1207398]You’ve got some serious sand in your pussy bro[/QUOTE]



And you are way too excited over our 6-3 record in November and who those 6 wins came against. But Ill recuse myself from this thread so you can celebrate.

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[quote=punch it in;1207406]Wtf r u laughing at? You will be shitting all over Smith, Gruden, and the rest of them come Sunday as usual. Saying all the same shit I just did. I mean we beat the Buccaneers ([B]excuse me the Buccaneers beat the Buccaneers[/B]) and you two think we are back on the map. Lmao.[/quote]

Enough with that.

Did the Buccaneers make a diving interception with great underneath and deep zone coverage on the play?

Did the Buccaneers come up with a game plan to play soft bend don't break defense and execute it to perfection?

Did the Buccaneers jump a route and pick another ball?

Did the Buccaneers punch the ball out of the end zone?

Did the Buccaneers strip sack Fitzpatrick late in the game?

Ok they helped us allowing only 3 points by missing two field goals, but [I][U]teams make errors all the time[/U][/I] (heck we should know that: the Skins have been on the other side of those costly mistakes for years!) and [I][U]allowing 9 points to the top passing offense in the league would have been pretty darn impressive too[/U][/I].

The Bucs average 25.8 pts per game, and scored 48 on the Saints, 27 on the Eagles, 27 on the Steelers, 29 on the Falcons, 23 on the Browns, 34 on the Bengals and 28 on the Panthers.
[I][U]Before facing us they averaged [B]28.25 pts[/B] per game[/U][/I], their lowest score being 10 against the Bears.

But yeah, our defense sucks.

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Anyway, moving on, we got a tough game coming up !

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1207411]Enough with that.



Did the Buccaneers make a diving interception with great underneath and deep zone coverage on the play?



Did the Buccaneers come up with a game plan to play soft bend don't break defense and execute it to perfection?



Did the Buccaneers jump a route and pick another ball?



Did the Buccaneers punch the ball out of the end zone?



Did the Buccaneers strip sack Fitzpatrick late in the game?



Ok they helped us allowing only 3 points by missing two field goals, but [I][U]teams make errors all the time[/U][/I] (heck we should know that: the Skins have been on the other side of those costly mistakes for years!) and [I][U]allowing 9 points to the top passing offense in the league would have been pretty darn impressive too[/U][/I].



The Bucs average 25.8 pts per game, and scored 48 on the Saints, 27 on the Eagles, 27 on the Steelers, 29 on the Falcons, 23 on the Browns, 34 on the Bengals and 28 against the Panthers.

[I][U]Before facing us they averaged [B]28.25 pts[/B] per game[/U][/I], their lowest score being 10 against the Bears.



But yeah, our defense sucks.[/QUOTE]



I said our defense sucks?

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[quote=punch it in;1207413]I said our defense sucks?[/quote]

No you didn't but it amazes me how credit for this impressive win gets stripped away from this team by its own fans...

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I think there are people in here that would complain their beer is too cold.

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Pretty good article on what a QC coach does for a living:
[url]http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/37647/long-days-big-dreams-the-grind-of-a-quality-control-coach[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1207406]Wtf r u laughing at? You will be shitting all over Smith, Gruden, and the rest of them come Sunday as usual. Saying all the same shit I just did. I mean we beat the Buccaneers (excuse me the Buccaneers beat the Buccaneers) and you two think we are back on the map. Lmao.[/quote]

Punch chill the fuck out. At this point in the season we need to roll with what we got and support the team. Let’s enjoy the fact we have a winner and are competitive in the division.shit taking it to the east would be a nice step to where we can go down the road.

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[QUOTE=calia;1207401]The guy has broken ribs. Trust me- I’ve done it. And breathing regularly hurts. I have no issues with his toughness. Durability yes but toughness no. There’s a difference.


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Rib injuries are no joke. Anyone questioning CT clearly has no idea how painful it can be.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1207407]And you are way too excited over our 6-3 record in November and who those 6 wins came against. But Ill recuse myself from this thread so you can celebrate.[/QUOTE]


Damn right I’m excited about being 6-3 in November.

Should I be wishing for the days of when we’re usually 3-6 right now instead?

Have fun sulking over winning lol

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[QUOTE=MTK;1207420]Damn right I’m excited about being 6-3 in November.

Should I be wishing for the days of when we’re usually 3-6 right now instead?

Have fun sulking over winning lol[/QUOTE]


Give it a break. Don’t conflate me (and several others) saying I do not think we are as good as our record currently indicates with me saying i hate when we win. Thats just dumb.
From now on everyone just post “we are great” and nobody dare critique the team about anything. Or the fan police will come for you. [emoji849]

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[quote=MTK;1207419]Rib injuries are no joke. Anyone questioning CT clearly has no idea how painful it can be.[/quote]

I have unfortunately collected many injuries through my life, playing football and boxing through college, crashing motorcycles, having bad luck and just being plain reckless as a youth. By the age of 19 I had already had skull, neck, and back fractures. At 24 I broke a wrist and collarbone, at 30 I broke my ankle. Those are injuries comparable to what happens to a lot of NFL players. I am tougher than most people, but could not imagine trying to play tackle football with the injuries some fans expect players to play through.

I am guessing some of the adults I have seen scream or cry after being stung by a hornet are hiding behind a keyboard wanting CT to play in an NFL game with broken ribs, when if they had his pain they would not even get out of bed.

Sorry, end of rant.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1207422]Give it a break. Don’t conflate me (and several others) saying I do not think we are as good as our record currently indicates with me saying i hate when we win. Thats just dumb.
From now on everyone just post “we are great” and nobody dare critique the team about anything. Or the fan police will come for you. [emoji849][/QUOTE]


If you knew back in August we would be 6-3 right now you would have been fucking elated. Because it’s not a “pretty” 6-3 you’re looking for every excuse to discount it. As the saying goes you are what your record says you are. Relax and enjoy it.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1207424]If you knew back in August we would be 6-3 right now you would have been fucking elated. Because it’s not a “pretty” 6-3 you’re looking for every excuse to discount it. As the saying goes you are what your record says you are. Relax and enjoy it.[/QUOTE]



Of course I would have taken 6-3. Im happy as hell we are in the convo front and center in late November. Im simply giving my opinion on what I think this team is actually capable of going forward. Sorry it is not as rosy as yours. We beat Houston and I will feel a whole lot better about our potential going forward Ill tell you that much.

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[quote=Chico23231;1207376]A defense that shutdown one of the top offenses on the road last week? The defense you dismiss...the record, stats don't support support your argument. Swearinger, Zach Brown been playing at a all pro level...HaHa, who was shutdown last week, has been playing like probowler. The Dline forms like voltron and are one of the best units in the league. Kerrigan extremely solid as well as Dunbar. The corner play has been above average as a whole.

The offense for their struggles still have been able to move the ball on the ground. AP has been excellent. If we can get Trent, Crowder, and CT back for the stretch run...I feel confident.

The Eagles and Cowboys are better? Not so far this year...but we will find out. Both are about to get fucked with weekend with no Vaseline. bet on it.[/quote]I wouldn't say that getting gashed for 500 yards is exactly shutting a team down. We did force some turnovers which was great. But still the Bucs was in the redzone 5 times. The only difference between the Bucs game and the Saints and Falcons games were the turnovers. If it wasn't for those lucky turnovers we would have got destroyed. Offense went up against the worse defense in the nfl and still couldn't score over 20 points. There is nothing at all impressive about this team. I don't care what any of you say. This team is not good. The stats show that are in the middle of the pack when it comes to defense. We are at the bottom of the league on the offensive side of the ball. Our coaches are below average. Nobody takes this team seriously even at 6-3.