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SFREDSKIN 11-23-2018 12:22 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
One player that had a positive impact and was replacing Ionnadis who hurt his calf, Tim Settle had some nice series.

punch it in 11-23-2018 12:28 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1209303]One player that had a positive impact and was replacing Ionnadis who hurt his calf, Tim Settle had some nice series.[/QUOTE]



Was just going to mention Settle. Really nice game. Seems like a keeper. Which means he probably won’t be here in two years.

SFREDSKIN 11-23-2018 12:33 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1209304]Was just going to mention Settle. Really nice game. Seems like a keeper. Which means he probably won’t be here in two years.[/quote]

Got to keep Allen, Payne, Ionnadis and Settle, that’s a serious core. People say we don’t have talent? We need to replace Foster as much as I like him, draft a CB on D.

punch it in 11-23-2018 12:40 AM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1209305]Got to keep Allen, Payne, Ionnadis and Settle, that’s a serious core. People say we don’t have talent? We need to replace Foster as much as I like him, draft a CB on D.[/QUOTE]



We don’t have “enough” talent I believe is the word on the street. Edge rusher. CB. S. LB. Those are the defensive needs.
Offense. Forget it. Pretty much everything except TE (if Reed keeps it up) and a couple o linemen is a need.

SFREDSKIN 11-23-2018 12:42 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1209306]We don’t have “enough” talent I believe is the word on the street. Edge rusher. CB. S. LB. Those are the defensive needs.
Offense. Forget it. Pretty much everything except TE (if Reed keeps it up) and a couple o linemen is a need.[/quote]

Smith and Kerrigan are doing what’s necessary, Smith has really stepped up.

punch it in 11-23-2018 12:46 AM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1209307]Smith and Kerrigan are doing what’s necessary, Smith has really stepped up.[/QUOTE]



Definitely not a glaring need, Kerrigan isn’t getting any younger though. Would just love a dominant pass rusher.

Chief X_Phackter 11-23-2018 01:37 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
Ha, same old thing on here after a loss. Burn it all down, fire Jay, draft a QB, time for a complete rebuild. :doh:

Chief X_Phackter 11-23-2018 01:57 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
If you think the Cowgirls dominated, you weren't watching the same game I was. The difference was the 3-0 turnover ratio, and that is all folks. The two biggest differences between Colt and Alex (besides the two broken bones) is Alex doesn't turn the ball over like that, and Colt knows this offense much better than Alex. The loss sucks, but this team is far from done. Gonna have to win out in the division though. Colt can do this. I'd like to see more Bibbs and less AP though...

SFREDSKIN 11-23-2018 02:21 AM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1209310]If you think the Cowgirls dominated, you weren't watching the same game I was. The difference was the 3-0 turnover ratio, and that is all folks. The two biggest differences between Colt and Alex (besides the two broken bones) is Alex doesn't turn the ball over like that, and Colt knows this offense much better than Alex. The loss sucks, but this team is far from done. Gonna have to win out in the division though. Colt can do this. I'd like to see more Bibbs and less AP though...[/quote]

Exactly!! When CT is healthy, I want a 123 punch of AP, Bibbs and CT.

REDSKINS4ever 11-23-2018 06:21 AM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1209310]If you think the Cowgirls dominated, you weren't watching the same game I was. The difference was the 3-0 turnover ratio, and that is all folks. The two biggest differences between Colt and Alex (besides the two broken bones) is Alex doesn't turn the ball over like that, and Colt knows this offense much better than Alex. The loss sucks, but this team is far from done. Gonna have to win out in the division though. Colt can do this. I'd like to see more Bibbs and less AP though...[/quote]

That and Dunbar and Moreau not being able to tackle....Norman should have been manning up on Cooper instead of an injured Dunbar....they knew Dunbar wasn't fully healthy so there's no way Quentin Dunbar should have been guarding Amari Cooper....as far as Colt McCoy he had no practice time this week with the 1st team on a short week...

Chico23231 11-23-2018 06:41 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
Everything sucks

Buffalo Bob 11-23-2018 07:26 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1209224]We will have 3 QBs on the roster next year. Hope the 3rd one is a rookie that turns into stud.[/quote]

Like a late round pick that only is paid peanuts for 4 years.

BaltimoreSkins 11-23-2018 07:26 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1209310]If you think the Cowgirls dominated, you weren't watching the same game I was. The difference was the 3-0 turnover ratio, and that is all folks. The two biggest differences between Colt and Alex (besides the two broken bones) is Alex doesn't turn the ball over like that, and Colt knows this offense much better than Alex. The loss sucks, but this team is far from done. Gonna have to win out in the division though. Colt can do this. I'd like to see more Bibbs and less AP though...[/quote]

You definitely saw the best and the worst that Colt offers yesterday some very good passes leading the receivers and some wildly bad throws as well. Defense made Dak look like an All-Pro. Really don't know what else to say at this point.

MTK 11-23-2018 07:37 AM

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Just some random notes from the game

- Tackling was pathetic way too many yards after the catch for Dallas
- Preston Smith was a monster
- Colt was way too sloppy, probably could have thrown 5 picks
- Quinn looks legit, bye bye Crowder
- Refs are just terrible
- Not ready to bury Colt, that was a tough task for him on a short week against a legit D
- Need more from the running game, Peterson seems to be looking for the home run too often
- Dunbar clearly not healthy
- Piss poor job by Ha Ha on the long TD
- Where has the run D gone?

skinsfaninok 11-23-2018 07:55 AM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1209320]Just some random notes from the game

- Tackling was pathetic way too many yards after the catch for Dallas
- Preston Smith was a monster
- Colt was way too sloppy, probably could have thrown 5 picks
- Quinn looks legit, bye bye Crowder
- Refs are just terrible
- Not ready to bury Colt, that was a tough task for him on a short week against a legit D
- Need more from the running game, Peterson seems to be looking for the home run too often
- Dunbar clearly not healthy
- Piss poor job by Ha Ha on the long TD
- Where has the run D gone?[/QUOTE]Team is what we thought they would be, 8-8 ish. Still have a small chance since dallas has NO next week. But they are on fire so anything can happen.

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5superbowls3wins 11-23-2018 07:59 AM

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1209301]I like Bibbs myself. Perrine is still hurt I think.[/QUOTE]



Bibbs has been great with his chances


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5superbowls3wins 11-23-2018 08:03 AM

Dallas postgame
 
Colt hasn’t played with the first unit in 4 years. He hasn’t had a single practice rep. He was thrown into a national TV Thanksgiving Day game 4 days later...He gave us a legit shot to win last week, and2 of his picks were simply not knowing his receivers tendencies, and not having timing down. He was pressured all night because our line is decimated AGAIN.

I think he deserves more of a chance here.


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5superbowls3wins 11-23-2018 08:06 AM

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I’d get the names of our strength and conditioning department and FIRE every single one of them


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skinsfaninok 11-23-2018 08:31 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
Dallas had a great game plan. They knew we had a good pass rush inside and they used screens, Quick pass Concept and rpo. That is called good coaching and preparation. Exactly what DJ said we lack.

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5superbowls3wins 11-23-2018 08:45 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1209325]Dallas had a great game plan. They knew we had a good pass rush inside and they used screens, Quick pass Concept and rpo. That is called good coaching and preparation. Exactly what DJ said we lack.

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Anyone wonder how this team would have turned out if Shannahan wasn’t blamed for the asshole RG3 turned out to be, and was allowed to work with Cousins. Shannahan was a no bullshit coach and wouldn’t allow this crap to happen


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MTK 11-23-2018 09:01 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1209321]Team is what we thought they would be, 8-8 ish. Still have a small chance since dallas has NO next week. But they are on fire so anything can happen.

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They're not beating New Orleans, we need to take care of business against Philly

punch it in 11-23-2018 09:22 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1209320]Just some random notes from the game



- Tackling was pathetic way too many yards after the catch for Dallas

- Preston Smith was a monster

- Colt was way too sloppy, probably could have thrown 5 picks

- Quinn looks legit, bye bye Crowder

- Refs are just terrible

- Not ready to bury Colt, that was a tough task for him on a short week against a legit D

- Need more from the running game, Peterson seems to be looking for the home run too often

- Dunbar clearly not healthy

- Piss poor job by Ha Ha on the long TD

- Where has the run D gone?[/QUOTE]



I kept calling for Bibbs last night during the game. I totally agree its like all or nothing for AP. Sometimes just take the few yards instead of waiting for something to develop while u dance around. I like Bibbs alot.

htownskinfan 11-23-2018 09:24 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1209298]Ha-ha is a joke bring back Nicholson.[/quote]

Yep
Listening to Smoot on radio now,he says he doesn’t see anything HaHa does well,looks like we got fleeced again.He’s also coming down hard on the coaching,from starting Dunbar,not having Norman follow Cooper,and other things.
They played a audio clip from Swearinger after the game,he was talking about people not being prepared,laughing after losing 2 games in a row,in it just for the money.Smoot believes he’s talking about Norman in his comments.Smoot also says it’s on the coaches for the attitude around Redskins park,theres no fear,in his day if the secondary screwed up they would get called out by their fellow players etc etc

DynamiteRave 11-23-2018 09:28 AM

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1209329]Yep

Listening to Smoot on radio now,he says he doesn’t see anything HaHa does well,looks like we got fleeced again.He’s also coming down hard on the coaching,from starting Dunbar,not having Norman follow Cooper,and other things.

They played a audio clip from Swearinger after the game,he was talking about people not being prepared,laughing after losing 2 games in a row,in it just for the money.Smoot believes he’s talking about Norman in his comments.Smoot also says it’s on the coaches for the attitude around Redskins park,theres no fear,in his day if the secondary screwed up they would get called out by their fellow players etc etc[/QUOTE]



That’s what you get when you got a players coach. Someone who keeps it light, won’t dog their players if they aren’t playing up to their ability.


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skinsfan69 11-23-2018 10:05 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1209300]We just don't have enough great players. And the 2 we have are on the same unit (OL). No lock down corner. No big play WR. No HR hitting RB (hopefully that can be Guice). No LB who is great 3 down guy, etc. etc.

DL has the potential to be great. Still developing.

But overall we just need some difference makers.[/quote]

Pretty much sums it up. We're still a 7 to 9 win team.

5superbowls3wins 11-23-2018 10:08 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
Shannahan would have NEVER allowed this


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Schneed10 11-23-2018 10:15 AM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
You know how some coaches just find a way when the odds are long and you’ve dealt with injuries or whatever? Well Gruden NEVER finds a way. He beats who he’s supposed to beat and nobody else.

I’ve had enough of him.

MTK 11-23-2018 10:39 AM

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1209332]Shannahan would have NEVER allowed this


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The same Shanahan that was 24-40 here?

NC_Skins 11-23-2018 11:18 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1209294] We already know that. But Jay can't go out there and tell Moreau to wrap up and tackle someone. He can't get Norman to cover better.[/quote]

THAT literally is his job to do or find somebody who can do these things. He hasn't done either.

BaltimoreSkins 11-23-2018 11:50 AM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1209330]That’s what you get when you got a players coach. Someone who keeps it light, won’t dog their players if they aren’t playing up to their ability.


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It's funny he has no problem calling out bad play during his weekly presser, but I just don't see it for games.

Defensewins 11-23-2018 12:16 PM

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[quote=MTK;1209334]The same Shanahan that was 24-40 here?[/quote]

Shanahan's 170 wins as a head coach ranked 12th in NFL history. Shanahan has coached in eight college bowl games, two NCAA national championships, 10 NFL conference championships, six Super Bowls and winning back to back Super Bowls. He developed a reputation as one of the most respected and upstanding members of the NFL community.

Gruden...not so much.

Shanahan > Gruden

punch it in 11-23-2018 12:46 PM

Dallas postgame
 
[QUOTE=Defensewins;1209345]Shanahan's 170 wins as a head coach ranked 12th in NFL history. Shanahan has coached in eight college bowl games, two NCAA national championships, 10 NFL conference championships, six Super Bowls and winning back to back Super Bowls. He developed a reputation as one of the most respected and upstanding members of the NFL community.



Gruden...not so much.



Shanahan > Gruden[/QUOTE]



Shanahan with us = Gruden because they both failed.
Also how can you forget Jays Arena Bowl championships? #legend

skinsfaninok 11-23-2018 12:51 PM

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1209330]That’s what you get when you got a players coach. Someone who keeps it light, won’t dog their players if they aren’t playing up to their ability.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Us and dallas are similar. Both coaches are players guys that bring no intensity. Jay only starts cussing refs out after the games already out of hand. And Jay never gets any players fired up.

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MTK 11-23-2018 01:12 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;1209345]Shanahan's 170 wins as a head coach ranked 12th in NFL history. Shanahan has coached in eight college bowl games, two NCAA national championships, 10 NFL conference championships, six Super Bowls and winning back to back Super Bowls. He developed a reputation as one of the most respected and upstanding members of the NFL community.

Gruden...not so much.

Shanahan > Gruden[/quote]

I'm not doubting his overall resume but let's be honest he didn't get it done here.

skinsfan69 11-23-2018 01:33 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;1209345]Shanahan's 170 wins as a head coach ranked 12th in NFL history. Shanahan has coached in eight college bowl games, two NCAA national championships, 10 NFL conference championships, six Super Bowls and winning back to back Super Bowls. He developed a reputation as one of the most respected and upstanding members of the NFL community.

Gruden...not so much.

Shanahan > Gruden[/quote]

Why are we talking about a coach who isn't here anymore? He's a respected coach and all but it didn't work out here. Some was his fault, some wasn't. He ain't coming back to work for Snyder.

mooby 11-23-2018 01:49 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;1209345]Shanahan's 170 wins as a head coach ranked 12th in NFL history. Shanahan has coached in eight college bowl games, two NCAA national championships, 10 NFL conference championships, six Super Bowls and winning back to back Super Bowls. He developed a reputation as one of the most respected and upstanding members of the NFL community.

Gruden...not so much.

Shanahan > Gruden[/quote]

How much of that did he do while he was here?

mooby 11-23-2018 01:54 PM

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Sometimes I wish Swearinger would just be quiet. This isn't one of those times:

[url]http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25351376/defense-blame[/url]

[quote=ESPN]Through seven games, the Redskins' defense ranked fourth in yards and fifth in points. Over the past four weeks, they're 27th in yards and 16th in points. They've lost three of those games.
[/quote]

Also that one game we did win out of the last 4, the D still gave up 500 yards, Tampa kept shooting themselves in the foot. Idk who's to blame but it's not like the D has been injured like the offense has.

[quote=DJ Swearinger]
"We can go out there and do whatever on teams that aren't good -- like I said, against Tampa, we can do whatever we want on teams that ain't good," Swearinger said. "But when you've got teams that can play with you, you gotta prepare. You gotta tackle. You gotta do the simple things right. If you don't do the simple things right, you gonna get embarrassed on national TV."

"That's why we don't get respect as the Redskins -- we don't do the simple s--- right," Swearinger said. "We do the simple s--- right, I guarantee you we get respect. So we don't need no damn respect. I see why we get disrespected, 'cause we don't win the big game. We gotta win the big game. Only way you win the big game is you prepare for the big game. That's every day. And that's gotta be in your heart."

"That laughing s---, man, that s--- for the birds when you're losing," Swearinger said. "If you're losing, if you ain't no championship team, it ain't no reason coming in the building and laughing -- unless it don't mean that much to you. Unless you're just doing it for the money. But if you're doing it from the heart, that s--- gonna mean something to you when you walk in that building after you lost two games in a row. It's gonna mean something to you.
[/quote]

Is it the coaching? Are players just playing for the check? No easy answers here. Only obvious problem I see is HHCD isn't ready, which should be obvious. Guys get months to train and prepare, OTA's, training camp, preseason games to learn schemes. Asking a guy to cram all that into a week is tomfoolery.

Buffalo Bob 11-23-2018 01:59 PM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
[quote=MTK;1209352]I'm not doubting his overall resume but let's be honest he didn't get it done here.[/quote]

Snyder creating the RG3 fiasco and how it spilled over to Cousins undermined any chance Shanny had at success.

SFREDSKIN 11-23-2018 02:21 PM

Re: Dallas postgame
 
Cassanova McKinzy done for the year, torn pectoral muscle. Could Gallette be resigned?

JP Finlay wrote:

Pernell McPhee has been a healthy scratch a few weeks in a row. Now, McKinzy will be gone for the season. The word with Galette was always that it would take an injury to bring him back. Is this the injury?

MTK 11-23-2018 02:26 PM

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1209357]Snyder creating the RG3 fiasco and how it spilled over to Cousins undermined any chance Shanny had at success.[/QUOTE]


Let’s not reinvent history Shanahan was to blame for plenty in his time here including his mishandling of RGIII’s injury situation.


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