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htownskinfan 12-24-2018 07:35 PM

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[quote=MTK;1214495]Big stretch to say DJ has more support than Jay in the locker room. In fact I’d say that’s just completely false.


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I don’t know how the rest of the team feels but I saw on Twitter Adrian Peterson tweeting @Swearinger that he was still shaking his head in disbelief,It was an honor playing with him, I will always appreciate the authenticity of Who you are as a competitor, that’s what makes you the warrior you are! I would take you on my team any day!

htownskinfan 12-24-2018 07:37 PM

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[quote=mooby;1214525]If anybody thinks Swearinger is going to join a playoff team this week and start the next game/be an impact player in the playoffs they are absolutely nuts.[/quote]

Stranger things have happened, the way the Redskins luck goes he’ll probably end up being the MVP of the Super Bowl !!

httr198020 12-24-2018 07:46 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214522]What successful teams air their grievances through the media?

Since there aren't any, why would they (not you) think it's a bad thing?

DJ was a good player and he has never stayed anywhere long probably because he doesn't do what's asked by his bosses.

He was good in Houston and in Arizona and they didn't want him. What could possibly be the reason?

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk[/quote] I think you're missing the point. We're not a successful team and it has nothing to do with DJ Swearinger. Getting rid of him didn't fix not one problem.

httr198020 12-24-2018 07:52 PM

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[quote=MTK;1214524]Getting rid of a cancer is always a good thing

Think about it, if you get released by the Redskins you’re probably doing something seriously wrong lol



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How was he a cancer? Can you please explain? This team was pure garbage before he got here. They will continue to be garbage now that he's gone. He called out our shitty ass DC who deserved to be fired. For the record, I've seen some players leave this organization and have success else where. I have also seen ex players and coaches come back to DC and kick our ass. In fact it is pretty common.

SFREDSKIN 12-24-2018 08:09 PM

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The Chiefs are already interested in claiming him.
[url]https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1077303991095255044[/url]

DYoungJelly 12-24-2018 08:22 PM

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1214529]I think you're missing the point. We're not a successful team and it has nothing to do with DJ Swearinger. Getting rid of him didn't fix not one problem.[/QUOTE]You're 100 percent right getting rid of him did not fix anything.

But keeping him would have created a whole host of problems and signaled to everyone it's ok to throw your coaches under the bus.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/sports/2018/12/24/i-dont-have-words-this-highlights-dj-swearingers-revealing-radio-interview/[/url]

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DYoungJelly 12-24-2018 08:25 PM

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1214530]How was he a cancer? Can you please explain? This team was pure garbage before he got here. They will continue to be garbage now that he's gone. He called out our shitty ass DC who deserved to be fired. For the record, I've seen some players leave this organization and have success else where. I have also seen ex players and coaches come back to DC and kick our ass. In fact it is pretty common.[/QUOTE]Again, a great way to prove your point would be to list a few successful teams who allow their players to rip their coaches in the media.

You know, a model we should copy.

If it is acceptable, or a good thing to do, should be pretty common.

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DYoungJelly 12-24-2018 08:32 PM

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Read the last part of the story on what DJ would do as a coach of a player called him out in the media.

He would shut it down too, but his answer absolved him of any responsibility.

Lol, too much!

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DYoungJelly 12-24-2018 08:33 PM

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214536]Read the last part of the story on what DJ would do as a coach of a player called him out in the media.

He would shut it down too, but his answer absolved him of any responsibility.

Lol, too much!

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Alcohol, clumsy posting.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/sports/2018/12/24/i-dont-have-words-this-highlights-dj-swearingers-revealing-radio-interview/[/url]

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Randall Nestor 12-24-2018 08:40 PM

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If DJ was told to keep things in house and he chose to continue this behavior then he truly has a lack of respect for the coaches and team and got what he probably deserved. My concern is the "laid back" practices and the way he says this team practices and prepares for games. If that is the case maybe that is why the last couple of years this team has been decimated with injuries. If that is it then maybe a new set of coaches are needed. I'm getting tired of seeing us lead the league in players on the IR.

5superbowls3wins 12-24-2018 08:55 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214524]Getting rid of a cancer is always a good thing

Think about it, if you get released by the Redskins you’re probably doing something seriously wrong lol



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The cancer is our front office and coaching staff. NOT DJ.

DJ is NOT the problem with this team.


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DYoungJelly 12-24-2018 09:14 PM

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214539]The cancer is our front office and coaching staff. NOT DJ.

DJ is NOT the problem with this team.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Again, can anybody name successful teams where taking shots through the media is tolerated, accepted or encouraged?

DJ said it wouldn't happen if he was the coach.

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MTK 12-24-2018 09:29 PM

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1214530]How was he a cancer? Can you please explain? This team was pure garbage before he got here. They will continue to be garbage now that he's gone. He called out our shitty ass DC who deserved to be fired. For the record, I've seen some players leave this organization and have success else where. I have also seen ex players and coaches come back to DC and kick our ass. In fact it is pretty common.[/QUOTE]


How many teams has he been on?



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skinsfaninok 12-24-2018 09:37 PM

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I approve of this move for 2 reasons.

A. You can't let a player shit on you multiple times over a season, publicly and then go out there and have average play himself. For the last 5-6 weeks he's played the "Its not my fault" game. That is bush league.

B. His deal was up in 2020, and I doubt the skins would pay him what he was going to ask for.

DYoungJelly 12-24-2018 09:53 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214541]How many teams has he been on?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]4 teams in 6 years.

[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._J._Swearinger[/url]

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CRedskinsRule 12-24-2018 10:20 PM

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[QUOTE=httr198020;1214520]I don't play professional football. Now answer my question. How is getting rid of arguably our best secondary player going to fix this football team? Did our team all of a sudden become better now that DJ Swearinger is gone? We just got rid of a good player but kept a bum HC and his bum ass DC. I'm done with this damn team.[/QUOTE]This season is over but the key word in your question is TEAM. As others have said you dont want players who consistently berate and spark divisiveness in the locker room. We probably became a better football TEAM with a need for a new safety

MTK 12-24-2018 10:31 PM

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How is this even a conversation


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rocnrik 12-24-2018 10:37 PM

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I play music for a living and I’ve been in bands that had that one guy who is always bitching and moaning about something... that guy usually has been in a lot of bands and it never works out even though he is a good player.. bottom line it ain’t worth the hassle .. Nobody on this team has played harder the AP and you never heard him complain! Keep the stuff in house.. DJ will get another job and mark my words this will happen agian !

5superbowls3wins 12-25-2018 12:01 AM

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Brian Mitchell said it earlier in the year. DJ was right.

[url]https://www.facebook.com/NBCSWashington/videos/537570533369565/[/url]



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skinsfan69 12-25-2018 12:12 AM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214523]Complete non answer and cop out.

Gronk on the field at the end of the Miami game was a stupid as it gets and cost them a win.

How many players griped to the media.

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This is a very good example DY. I bet the player Gronk replaced was pissed about not being on the field. If ever there was a reason to air something to the media that was it. Pats have a culture and Hoody would never tolerate it once. He benched Welker for making fun of Rex Ryan's foot fetish videos.

punch it in 12-25-2018 12:22 AM

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214550]Brian Mitchell said it earlier in the year. DJ was right.

[url]https://www.facebook.com/NBCSWashington/videos/537570533369565/[/url]



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Nobody doubts what he said really, but that he felt the need to tell the world. It is bad for the “team” when you gripe to the world.

punch it in 12-25-2018 12:26 AM

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It is a job. At your job you might have a problem with a superior. He might be a shitty ass boss, and there are avenues you take to let someone know that. Social media outlets and the general public are not those avenues. If you did that you would be fired. So was he. End of story.

htownskinfan 12-25-2018 05:54 AM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1214526]I don’t know how the rest of the team feels but I saw on Twitter Adrian Peterson tweeting @Swearinger that he was still shaking his head in disbelief,It was an honor playing with him, I will always appreciate the authenticity of Who you are as a competitor, that’s what makes you the warrior you are! I would take you on my team any day![/quote]

And apparently other teammates according to this article quite a few were taken to Twitter to show their support for Swearinger including Trent Williams and Quinton Dunbar
[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/nearing-end-turmoil-filled-season-redskins-somehow-draw-line-d-j-swearingers-criticism-230224572.html[/url]

5superbowls3wins 12-25-2018 08:09 AM

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1214558]And apparently other teammates according to this article quite a few were taken to Twitter to show their support for Swearinger including Trent Williams and Quinton Dunbar

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/nearing-end-turmoil-filled-season-redskins-somehow-draw-line-d-j-swearingers-criticism-230224572.html[/url][/QUOTE]



This. It wasn’t DJ that needed to go. Someone needs to take out the REAL garbage....Gruden, Allen and Manuksy


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VTSkins1961 12-25-2018 08:18 AM

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214428]DJ is far from the problem. DJ was canned because he spoke OF the problems.


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He was canned because he was told to keep it in house 2 times before... You can't do that crap.

DYoungJelly 12-25-2018 09:24 AM

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214561]This. It wasn’t DJ that needed to go. Someone needs to take out the REAL garbage....Gruden, Allen and Manuksy


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Platitudes and generalizations.

Did you actually read what DJ said about the call and the game plan?

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MTK 12-25-2018 09:39 AM

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How about this... DJ needed to go and that doesn’t change the fact other change is needed as well.




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SFREDSKIN 12-25-2018 10:32 AM

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Bottom line, is DJ like most of today’s athletes has this huge self absorption that they think they are above it all. Look at Cabron James, he thinks he’s the owner, coach and recruiter, they need to be put in their place.

5superbowls3wins 12-25-2018 10:32 AM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214564]How about this... DJ needed to go and that doesn’t change the fact other change is needed as well.




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How about this. Instead of letting our talent, and the few bright spots we actually had this walk out the door, maybe they should leave that for the next coaching staff since Gruden, Mansuky, and Allen should be the ones getting walking papers.

It’s a ploy to divert negative attention away from the fact that the coaching staff BLOWS, the front office BLOWS, a competent coordinator could get this defense to play at a much higher level, and take negative attention away that they recently signed Foster. DJ is the scapegoat.

DJ spoke the truth and his assessment is fair, accurate and honest. Again 4-5 starters have spoken up against Manuksy, and other players are now supporting DJ.

Meanwhile multiple respected news outlets and writers are ROASTING Washington over it, and Twitter continues to light up our coaching staff.

DJ ain’t the problem and doesn’t fix shit letting him go. #scapegoat


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5superbowls3wins 12-25-2018 10:47 AM

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Fact is, PISS POOR decision making of this coaching staff and front office, and the HORRENDOUS decision making of this team over the last 30 years gives them NO CREDIBILITY.

I’ll actually take DJs reputation over Allen, Gruden and Manusky


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Chico23231 12-25-2018 10:47 AM

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Releasing DJ was a ploy by the team?

Ok I’m done with this topic.

5superbowls3wins 12-25-2018 10:51 AM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214569]Releasing DJ was a ploy by the team?



Ok I’m done with this topic.[/QUOTE]



You’re going to think Snyder isn’t capable of this? You’re going to say he hasn’t made multiple moves in the past to sway attention and fan opinion?


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MTK 12-25-2018 11:01 AM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214569]Releasing DJ was a ploy by the team?



Ok I’m done with this topic.[/QUOTE]



lol

A ploy to bring more negative attention to the team, makes total sense!


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MTK 12-25-2018 11:04 AM

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Let’s keep ignoring the fact DJ will be moving on to team #5 in six years.


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5superbowls3wins 12-25-2018 11:06 AM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214571]lol

A ploy to bring more negative attention to the team, makes total sense!


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No, I think it was a way to bury the Ruben Foster drama, to take the focus off of the nonstop negative feedback/attention Manuksy is getting, but the decision to let DJ go only brought on more negative attention, didn’t divert it.


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DynamiteRave 12-25-2018 11:06 AM

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I think releasing DJ due to his mouth was probably already writing on the wall, they just dropped the hammer earlier than planned. But this team is real life Game of Thrones; don’t get too attached cuz mostly they’re gonna be gone.

That’s why I don’t buy jerseys anymore. I can’t be sure anyone will be on this team for more than 3+ seasons.

MTK 12-25-2018 11:08 AM

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214574]No, I think it was a way to bury the Ruben Foster drama, to take the focus off of the nonstop negative feedback/attention Manuksy is getting, but the decision to let DJ go only brought on more negative attention, didn’t divert it.


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Tinfoil hat firmly in place



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5superbowls3wins 12-25-2018 11:09 AM

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I guess the overwhelming anger, confusion, and outcry over his release from media, fans, and players is all wrong.

The 4-5 people here that support it are right!


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DYoungJelly 12-25-2018 11:16 AM

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214568]Fact is, PISS POOR decision making of this coaching staff and front office, and the HORRENDOUS decision making of this team over the last 30 years gives them NO CREDIBILITY.

I’ll actually take DJs reputation over Allen, Gruden and Manusky


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]What is DJ's reputation?

Do people from Tampa, Houston and Arizona get to weigh in?

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5superbowls3wins 12-25-2018 11:18 AM

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Allen, Manusky and Gruden have done enough damage, and should/could be out the door in a week. Please don’t gut the talent we have or the few bright spots we’ve had this year on your way out the door.

Let the next staff decide that.


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