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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1214905]If it was a one off thing I'd agree, but this is just typical Snyder shit. These guys have been here less than a year and already getting fired/resigning. As far as I've read, these were respectful guys and already gone. It just comes off again that if you don't tell Dan and Bruce that their shit smells like roses you get fired.[/QUOTE]


Lafemina was about to fire a bunch of longtime low and mid level employees on the operations side. I have no idea whether those people were good or bad at their jobs, but Snyder fires Lafemina to keep him firing them.

Whether he would have eventually turned things around or not, we’ll never know, but Lafemina completely failed to improve anything this year. Game attendance was significantly worse under his one year here - and this was even when the team was playing well.

Neither of us have all the facts as to who was “right” or “wrong” regarding their vision for the teams operations side. But again - i personally don’t care as it wouldn’t affect the product on the field.

What i do care about is the football side of things. I want significant changes to be made after the season. If there aren’t, and Some assistant coach is just fired as a sacrificial lamb, I’ll be sharing your outrage.

But Im ambivalent to the Lafemina firing.


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^ Attendance was off only because Lafemina came in and said we need to be transparent, there's no waiting list and no more fake sell outs. You can't fairly judge what he did here in 8 months.

And the whole thing just screams Snyder is not open to change. After 8 months of having some real grown ups in the building and he said nah, I'd rather do it my way. You know, the way that has dragged the franchise into the shitter.

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[quote=MTK;1214919]^ Attendance was off only because Lafemina came in and said we need to be transparent, there's no waiting list and no more fake sell outs. You can't fairly judge what he did here in 8 months.

And the whole thing just screams Snyder is not open to change. After 8 months of having some real grown ups in the building and he said nah, I'd rather do it my way. You know, the way that has dragged the franchise into the shitter.[/quote]

This. Snyder showed his colors again of being a terrible owner

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1214847]Listening to the Kevin Sheehan show with Thom Loverro and Thom has added some insights:

- Thoms sources said that Allen and Jay are both very worried about their jobs. They don’t know if they’re getting fired or not
- The Swearinger release was described by a source as a “Hail Mary” attempt to keep their jobs.

To me, this is good news. Hoping to see them both gone after the season.


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You made my day, I'll take any signs of hope I can get !

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214919]^ Attendance was off only because Lafemina came in and said we need to be transparent, there's no waiting list and no more fake sell outs. You can't fairly judge what he did here in 8 months.

And the whole thing just screams Snyder is not open to change. After 8 months of having some real grown ups in the building and he said nah, I'd rather do it my way. You know, the way that has dragged the franchise into the shitter.[/QUOTE]


Even if that’s true, who cares? It’s the operations side.

Ultimately, everything on the operations side will fix itself if appropriate changes are made on the football side. Nothing lefamina did or could have done in his role would have affected that. I want to see what changes are made on the football side.

It’s abundantly obvious that Allen needs to be removed from anything related to the actual team operations. I fully expect him to be gone, or in another role focused solely on the stadium deal, by this time next week.

If he’s not, then I’ll complain about that.






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I agree the product on the field matters but the fan experience matters too. There is a reason that Skins fans travel well. There is passion for the team we just don't like having a shitty experience doing it.

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Ratings and attendance were on the decline well before Lafemina came in. The ops side is a problem just like the football side, it all ties in together. Fan apathy is at an all time high. Even with a 6-3 team this year and a 2 game lead in the division nobody cared. The crowd at the home opener was flat out embarrassing and that was coming off a convincing win in Arizona. The relationship between the team and fans is seriously broken.

And again the fact Snyder canned him 8 months in just shows that he's not able to see things for the disaster they are. Lafemina represented some hope that Snyder was reaching out for some help and wanted to truly change.

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I'm sorry but could those of you who went to FedEx field detail why they think it's such a bad stadium?

A part from traffic and parking prices?

I took the subway to go there, thought it was super easy, and while I'm aware my game day experience was significantly enhanced by a huge luck factor, I thought the stadium was well designed, fans are incredibly close to the field... I thought it was a really good stadium... what am I missing ?

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What if Lafemina's firing was just the first shot of a general executive housecleaning by Snyder? Snyder could be planning to bring in a new Team President to run the entire business, with new EVP's under him to run the business side and the football side, respectively. That could mean that Bruce and Jay will also be fired at the end of the season. I nominate General Mattis to be Team President and Bill Parcells to be EVP of Football Operations.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1214941]I'm sorry but could those of you who went to FedEx field detail why they think it's such a bad stadium?

A part from traffic and parking prices?

I took the subway to go there, thought it was super easy, and while I'm aware my game day experience was significantly enhanced by a huge luck factor, I thought the stadium was well designed, fans are incredibly close to the field... I thought it was a really good stadium... what am I missing ?

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I've never had any real complaints about the stadium. Even parking and traffic weren't real issues in my mind but I also usually park at the Arena Shopping Center. I walk further but once I'm in the car it's a quick right out of the parking lot and a right onto the interstate. To me, a few upgrades here and there are more than sufficient. I haven't been to any of the newest mega stadiums but FedEx Field stacks up fine with the stadiums I've been to. Fans want good, competitive football first and foremost. You don't even have to win 10-12 games a year. Just put a good product on the field.

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Ok step one changed the avatar, now for that blasphemous name you boast..........

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1214960]What if Lafemina's firing was just the first shot of a general executive housecleaning by Snyder? Snyder could be planning to bring in a new Team President to run the entire business, with new EVP's under him to run the business side and the football side, respectively. That could mean that Bruce and Jay will also be fired at the end of the season. I nominate General Mattis to be Team President and Bill Parcells to be EVP of Football Operations.[/quote]

Don't toy with my emotions like that....

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[quote=Meks;1214964]Ok step one changed the avatar, now for that blasphemous name you boast..........[/quote]

Lol, well the avatar was changed for me. I said I was pulling for the Eagles in the playoffs not that I was abandoning the Redskins and pulling for them forever. But I'll wear the avatar as a scarlet letter for a bit.

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[QUOTE=RedskinJake;1214968]Lol, well the avatar was changed for me. I said I was pulling for the Eagles in the playoffs not that I was abandoning the Redskins and pulling for them forever. But I'll wear the avatar as a scarlet letter for a bit.[/QUOTE]



Join the club. Mine was changed too. Apparently the admins like messing with people’s accounts.


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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1214960]What if Lafemina's firing was just the first shot of a general executive housecleaning by Snyder? Snyder could be planning to bring in a new Team President to run the entire business, with new EVP's under him to run the business side and the football side, respectively. That could mean that Bruce and Jay will also be fired at the end of the season. I nominate General Mattis to be Team President and Bill Parcells to be EVP of Football Operations.[/QUOTE]



Lafemina was going to be fired (or he’d resign) after the was over. As has been much reported, Snyder and Allen didn’t get along with him and didn’t agree with his approach. However, Lafemina was getting ready to fire a whole bunch of long-time employees on the operations side of things. Guys who were “Snyder guys” so Snyder stepped in and preemptively fires Lafemina to stop that from happening.

Everyone can have their opinion on who was right or wrong, but ultimately none of us really know the specifics of what lead to the relationship souring. What we do know, is that Lafemina had NOTHING to do with football decisions. His employment (or lack thereof) has no impact on the stuff most of us should care about - football operations.

It is common knowledge that Snyder believes it was a mistake to fire coaches mid-season in the past. Any changes he makes will be made in the offseason. It has been reported that Snyder has been fed up with how allen has operated the team and repeatedly embarrassed the organization.

It was reported that Allen and Jay are both fearful for their jobs. The decision to cut Swearinger (as opposed to perhaps just suspend him) was described by a team source as a “Hail Mary” attempt from Allen and Jay to look like they had a handle on things to possibly save their jobs.

This is quite telling. The fact that they’re scared means Snyder has not communicated any plan to keep either of them.

I fully expect Allen to be “reassigned” to focus exclusively on the stadium deal and a new GM to take over within the next week.


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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1214970]Lafemina was going to be fired (or he’d resign) after the was over. As has been much reported, Snyder and Allen didn’t get along with him and didn’t agree with his approach. However, Lafemina was getting ready to fire a whole bunch of long-time employees on the operations side of things. Guys who were “Snyder guys” so Snyder stepped in and preemptively fires Lafemina to stop that from happening.

Everyone can have their opinion on who was right or wrong, but ultimately none of us really know the specifics of what lead to the relationship souring. What we do know, is that Lafemina had NOTHING to do with football decisions. His employment (or lack thereof) has no impact on the stuff most of us should care about - football operations.

It is common knowledge that Snyder believes it was a mistake to fire coaches mid-season in the past. Any changes he makes will be made in the offseason. It has been reported that Snyder has been fed up with how allen has operated the team and repeatedly embarrassed the organization.

It was reported that Allen and Jay are both fearful for their jobs. The decision to cut Swearinger (as opposed to perhaps just suspend him) was described by a team source as a “Hail Mary” attempt from Allen and Jay to look like they had a handle on things to possibly save their jobs.

This is quite telling. The fact that they’re scared means Snyder has not communicated any plan to keep either of them.

I fully expect Allen to be “reassigned” to focus exclusively on the stadium deal and a new GM to take over within the next week.


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The best thing for everyone would be to move Allen out of the building and give him a high end office in DC and treat him as a consultant/lobbyist for the stadium deal. Bring in a "football guy" at GM or promote Kyle Smith or Eric Schaffer to GM. Let the new GM decide Gruden's fate after 2019 unless an elite head coach is available and wants the job. But getting Allen out of the building is key. In fact, I'd formally make him a consultant and tie his compensation to getting the stadium deal done.

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[QUOTE=RedskinJake;1214971]The best thing for everyone would be to move Allen out of the building and give him a high end office in DC and treat him as a consultant/lobbyist for the stadium deal. Bring in a "football guy" at GM or promote Kyle Smith or Eric Schaffer to GM. Let the new GM decide Gruden's fate after 2019 unless an elite head coach is available and wants the job. But getting Allen out of the building is key. In fact, I'd formally make him a consultant and tie his compensation to getting the stadium deal done.[/QUOTE]



Agreed


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214969]Join the club. Mine was changed too. Apparently the admins like messing with people’s accounts.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Hmm, he's never messed with mine, but I've never pulled for a DIVISION RIVAL IN A HOME GAME!

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[QUOTE=RedskinJake;1214963]I've never had any real complaints about the stadium. Even parking and traffic weren't real issues in my mind but I also usually park at the Arena Shopping Center. I walk further but once I'm in the car it's a quick right out of the parking lot and a right onto the interstate. To me, a few upgrades here and there are more than sufficient. I haven't been to any of the newest mega stadiums but FedEx Field stacks up fine with the stadiums I've been to. Fans want good, competitive football first and foremost. You don't even have to win 10-12 games a year. Just put a good product on the field.[/QUOTE]I think there are a lot of folks who advocate moving the stadium back to dc so there are restaurants bars, things to do all day type thing.

That's how a lot of stadiums, arenas are set upin a lot of cities. Kind of an all day outing.
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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1214973]Hmm, he's never messed with mine, but I've never pulled for a DIVISION RIVAL IN A HOME GAME!

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That is true. I signed a death warrant with that huh?


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[quote=DYoungJelly;1214974]I think there are a lot of folks who advocate moving the stadium back to dc so there are restaurants bars, things to do all day type thing.

That's how a lot of stadiums, arenas are set upin a lot of cities. Kind of an all day outing.
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Fedex Field is already an all-day outing.

#parking

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[quote=RedskinJake;1214968]Lol, well the avatar was changed for me. I said I was pulling for the Eagles in the playoffs not that I was abandoning the Redskins and pulling for them forever. But I'll wear the avatar as a scarlet letter for a bit.[/quote]

Someone went into your account and changed your avatar? 😂😂😂😂😂

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1214984]Someone went into your account and changed your avatar? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][/QUOTE]



Happened to me too


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1214985]Happened to me too


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OMG touché Frenchman


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[quote=FrenchSkin;1214941]I'm sorry but could those of you who went to FedEx field detail why they think it's such a bad stadium?

A part from traffic and parking prices?

I took the subway to go there, thought it was super easy, and while I'm aware my game day experience was significantly enhanced by a huge luck factor, I thought the stadium was well designed, fans are incredibly close to the field... I thought it was a really good stadium... what am I missing ?

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1. The amnities that surround the stadium are lacking. Walk ability from hotels and restaurants is next to impossible.
2. Price for food is hefty compared to many other stadiums.
3. The turf manager might be the worst manager in the Redskins system.
4. It consistently ranks near bottom in the league for fan experience. Considering the venue attracts fans from other teams and they are comparing their experience vs their home stadium experience it should be taken into consideration.

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[QUOTE=RedskinJake;1214971]The best thing for everyone would be to move Allen out of the building and give him a high end office in DC and treat him as a consultant/lobbyist for the stadium deal. Bring in a "football guy" at GM or promote Kyle Smith or Eric Schaffer to GM. Let the new GM decide Gruden's fate after 2019 unless an elite head coach is available and wants the job. But getting Allen out of the building is key. In fact, I'd formally make him a consultant and tie his compensation to getting the stadium deal done.[/QUOTE]



My thoughts exactly, with a preference towards promoting Kyle smith.


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Here's my proposed structure... promote Schaffer to GM, promote Smith to VP of personnel/asst GM or whatever the F you want to call it, and Doug to team President. Re-assign Bruce to stadium liaison or some shit. Just get Bruce the F out of personnel for good please.

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[quote=MTK;1214991]Here's my proposed structure... promote Schaffer to GM, promote Smith to VP of personnel/asst GM or whatever the F you want to call it, and Doug to team President. Re-assign Bruce to stadium liaison or some shit. Just get Bruce the F out of personnel for good please.[/quote]

You can't just move Bruce to the "business" side. That's never going to work because no doubt he'll have influence on decisions, or call the shots from behind the curtain. He's got to go. Period.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214991]Here's my proposed structure... promote Schaffer to GM, promote Smith to VP of personnel/asst GM or whatever the F you want to call it, and Doug to team President. Re-assign Bruce to stadium liaison or some shit. Just get Bruce the F out of personnel for good please.[/QUOTE]



What about the coaching staff? If you could do anything?


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214993]What about the coaching staff? If you could do anything?


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Keep Jay, I wouldn't let him hire another DC though and I'd go hard after Todd Bowles if the Jets can him. I have a feeling Callahan moves on so we'll need a new OL coach.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1214994]Keep Jay, I wouldn't let him hire another DC though and I'd go hard after Todd Bowles if the Jets can him. I have a feeling Callahan moves on so we'll need a new OL coach.[/QUOTE]



If Jay stays he HAS to get a GOOD play caller, and I’d promote Tomsula to DC


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1214995]If Jay stays he HAS to get a GOOD play caller, and I’d promote Tomsula to DC


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I'd look for talent outside our own staff to get a DC... OC .... HC ... All C's... Including C level execs lol

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[quote=NC_Skins;1214992]You can't just move Bruce to the "business" side. That's never going to work because no doubt he'll have influence on decisions, or call the shots from behind the curtain. He's got to go. Period.[/quote]

I agree Bruce involved with anything for the future makes me nervous. The best thing would be to trade him to the raiders for one of their 70 first round draft picks they have over the next two years.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1214992]You can't just move Bruce to the "business" side. That's never going to work because no doubt he'll have influence on decisions, or call the shots from behind the curtain. He's got to go. Period.[/quote]

Agree, Bruce needs to be on the street. If Snyder can drop him off somewhere in Yemen, that would be preferable.

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Good Read

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/sports/washington-redskins-dan-snyder.amp.html[/url]


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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1214992]You can't just move Bruce to the "business" side. That's never going to work because no doubt he'll have influence on decisions, or call the shots from behind the curtain. He's got to go. Period.[/QUOTE]


Bruce is too crucial to the stadium deal - he’s irreplaceable.


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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1215008]Bruce is too crucial to the stadium deal - he’s irreplaceable.


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I guess Snyder is putting the stadium before winning, and the fan base. Ya know, the people he’ll need to fill those seats. How about he focuses on winning a FUCKING playoff game.

He’s selling a product, and the following of that product is eroding. Quickly. He’s obviously not putting the priority of bringing the fans back and truly improving the brand FIRST.

This season will be the 15 season in Dan’s 20 years that the Redskins don’t make the playoffs. The Redskins haven’t won more than 11 games in a season since 1991.

Entering their final home game of the season, on Sunday against the Eagles, Washington averaged fewer than 61,000 fans, 27th in the N.F.L. FedEx Field has been only 74 percent full this season, the lowest percentage in the league. Fans aren’t particularly motivated to watch at home, either: The team’s local television rating ranks 22nd in the league.

“The fan base is just worn down, frustrated, completely fed up with the front office,” said Eric Bickel, a longtime fan and host of the “Sports Junkies” morning radio show in the area. “This was once a proud, heritage-filled franchise. There is a large percentage of the population here that has no experience with that.”

So he can keep Bruce, but the consequences will only grow worse.


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1215009]I guess Snyder is putting the stadium before winning, and the fan base. Ya know, the people he’ll need to fill those seats. How about he focuses on winning a FUCKING playoff game.

He’s selling a product, and the following of that product is eroding. Quickly. He’s obviously not putting the priority of bringing the fans back and truly improving the brand FIRST.

Entering their final home game of the season, on Sunday against the Eagles, Washington averaged fewer than 61,000 fans, 27th in the N.F.L. FedEx Field has been only 74 percent full this season, the lowest percentage in the league. Fans aren’t particularly motivated to watch at home, either: The team’s local television rating ranks 22nd in the league.

“The fan base is just worn down, frustrated, completely fed up with the front office,” said Eric Bickel, a longtime fan and host of the “Sports Junkies” morning radio show in the area. “This was once a proud, heritage-filled franchise. There is a large percentage of the population here that has no experience with that.”

So he can keep Bruce, but the consequences will only grow worse.


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If Bruce is removed from football operations he will have no impact on the teams ability to win.

As far as the fan base wanting Bruce’s he’s on a Spike, it’s never a good decision to cave into the mob. Snyder needs to make decisions that are best for both the team and the stadium deal. Letting Bruce go completely is a bad idea.


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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1215008]Bruce is too crucial to the stadium deal - he’s irreplaceable.


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What's crucial to the stadium deal is winning, not Bruce Allen.