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I think they take Lock or Daniel Jones in round 1


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Jones and Finley impressed, especially Finley/

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013599/article/daniel-jones-ryan-finley-among-five-stars-from-senior-bowl[/url]

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[quote=Tennskinsfan;1217966]I’ll still stand my ground that ya take the chance on Finley in the 3rd worse case scenario he gets some snaps this year we have a decent backup to Colt and we draft a franchise QB next year if needed. You can’t leverage the franchise this year with another RG3 move again our needs run too deep. Pick us up best available throughout from positions of need.

Finley is starting QB caliber in the NFL out of the draft if we can grab him in the 3rd we will have a replacement for Colt as a backup for a couple years so we can afford to take a gamble next year for the next Generational QB[/quote]

This this this.

We aren’t in position to get a Haskins or Murray at 15. Rather not make a reach...get a devin white, pass rusher or even a CB like Baker out of Georgia.

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I was watching Mel Kiper and Todd McShay the other day and they are saying this is a top heavy defense player draft. Kiper said 7 of the top 10 players in the entire draft are on the defensive side of the ball. Add to that that, as usual, the high number of QB starved teams will reach for their QB early because they are desperate and stupid. That means when we pick at 15 there will be top 10 defense talent available. Not the ideal situation since we are one of those QB starved teams, but let’s not be one of the stupid QB starved teams. It is always good when we can get a top 10 player at 15. Value not desperation.

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[quote=Defensewins;1217976]I was watching Mel Kiper and Todd McShay the other day and they are saying this is a top heavy defense player draft. Kiper said 7 of the top 10 players in the entire draft are on the defensive side of the ball. Add to that that, as usual, the high number of [B]QB starved teams will reach for their QB early because they are desperate and stupid. [/B]That means when we pick at 15 there will be top 10 defense talent available. Not the ideal situation since we are one of those QB starved teams, but let’s not be one of the stupid QB starved teams. It is always good when we can get a top 10 player at 15. Value not desperation.[/quote]

Um... you just described the Redskins.

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Jones, lock or grier will be a redskin most likely. Especially with the news on Smith

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Wait on Grier and fuck lock. I’m worried we will reach for Jones

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1217987]Wait on Grier and fuck lock. I’m worried we will reach for Jones[/QUOTE]Me too man, it seems like they are matching the 2 together lately

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1217979]Jones, lock or grier will be a redskin most likely. Especially with the news on Smith

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I guess u didn’t see what JP Finlay thinks of Grier:

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/status/1089255402175451136[/url]

Daniel Jones and Finley impressed at the Senior Bowl, I'm beginning to like Finley from I've read.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1218001]I guess u didn’t see what JP Finlay thinks of Grier:

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/status/1089255402175451136[/url]

Daniel Jones and Finley impressed at the Senior Bowl, I'm beginning to like Finley from I've read.[/QUOTE]Rather have Lock over Finlay

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Which personnel guy / commentator said draft a QB every year?

Not necessarily with a high pick though.



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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1218004]Rather have Lock over Finlay

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How about we draft neither, draft the top defensive player in the board, tank the season, and draft Tua in 2020?


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15: R1p15 - lb devin white - lsu
46: R2p14 - wr a.j. Brown - ole miss
76: R3p12 - qb ryan finley - nc state
96: R3p32 - cb rock ya-sin - temple
154: R5p15 - g hjalte froholdt - arkansas
172: R5p33 - s ugo amadi - oregon
207: R6p32 - edge christian miller - alabama
229: R7p13 - te alize mack - notre dame

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218008]How about we draft neither, draft the top defensive player in the board, tank the season, and draft Tua in 2020?


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That's fine for me too

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Last year Doug Williams and Co. expressed that RB and DT were HUGE priorities and we drafted both right away.

This year there is no way you can ignore the QB position not being a top 2 need. The only way they do not acknowledge this is if they are openly tanking for 2020. Also Jay needs a QB to have a chance at saving his job, Colt Mccoy is not the answer , neither is JJ.

We will draft a QB guys, unless we do go sign a vet like Fitzmagic or Flacco.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1218007]Which personnel guy / commentator said draft a QB every year?

Not necessarily with a high pick though.



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Casserly

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218008]How about we draft neither, draft the top defensive player in the board, tank the season, and draft Tua in 2020?


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I'm fine with going D at 15 and taking a QB later on and rolling with Colt, Johnson, and a rookie. I don't think it's a must that we need to draft a QB at 15.

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[quote=MTK;1218018]I'm fine with going D at 15 and taking a QB later on and rolling with Colt, Johnson, and a rookie. I don't think it's a must that we need to draft a QB at 15.[/quote]

That's my ideal situation. Colt, Johnson (or another veteran), and a QB anywhere in round 2 or later.

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i think we all have good draft ideas about who we should target in the first round but right now looking at the team ,the QB position is probably the weakest spot on the team and mcCoy is not the answer or is jj ,i understand tanking but then it goes against what the stupid redskins front office said about keeping gruden and there is no guarantee that we will be in a position to draft one of the top three qb,s next year

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[QUOTE=bigant;1218025]i think we all have good draft ideas about who we should target in the first round but right now looking at the team ,the QB position is probably the weakest spot on the team and mcCoy is not the answer or is jj ,i understand tanking but then it goes against what the stupid redskins front office said about keeping gruden and there is no guarantee that we will be in a position to draft one of the top three qb,s next year[/QUOTE]Bruce said the team is going to look at all possibilities at QB including Alex coming back but he basically means the team is going to have a new starter next season. They won't tank for Tua with Jay still there

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Interesting breakdown of Lock and Jones by Greg Cosell:

[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1090005766642241537[/url]

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Elway loves Lock , I wouldn't be surprised if he drafts him.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218052]Elway loves Lock , I wouldn't be surprised if he drafts him.[/quote]

Poor Lock. #elwaycurse

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What do you guys think about possibility of trading for Ryan Tannehill say a 5th round .. bring him in for next year with McCoy .. and not reach for a QB in first round .. would it make any sense?

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[quote=rocnrik;1218069]What do you guys think about possibility of trading for Ryan Tannehill say a 5th round .. bring him in for next year with McCoy .. and not reach for a QB in first round .. would it make any sense?[/quote]

no sense at all...Tannehill contract is back weighted like a bitch. Something like 20 this year and 23 million next year...but the Dolphins have an out to cut him this offseason. They will.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1218069]What do you guys think about possibility of trading for Ryan Tannehill say a 5th round .. bring him in for next year with McCoy .. and not reach for a QB in first round .. would it make any sense?[/QUOTE]


Just take a look at his contract and you’ll see a trade makes no sense


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[quote=rocnrik;1218069]What do you guys think about possibility of trading for Ryan Tannehill say a 5th round .. bring him in for next year with McCoy .. and not reach for a QB in first round .. would it make any sense?[/quote]

yes bad and not worth the $

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[quote=rocnrik;1218069]What do you guys think about possibility of trading for Ryan Tannehill say a 5th round .. bring him in for next year with McCoy .. and not reach for a QB in first round .. would it make any sense?[/quote]

No...he's too prone to injury...he's missed almost two full seasons worth of games with injuries...I'd rather the team sign Ryan Fitzpatrick or Bridgewater in free agency.....and to add the Redskins need all of their draft picks.

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I say take Jones or Grier at 15.

Trade back into the 1st rd and grab DK Metcalf.

Time to build this offense again.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218276]I say take Jones or Grier at 15.

Trade back into the 1st rd and grab DK Metcalf.

Time to build this offense again.[/quote]

I don't think Jones or Grier is materially better than a QB who we've never heard of that the team could draft in the 6th round.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218278]I don't think Jones or Grier is materially better than a QB who we've never heard of that the team could draft in the 6th round.[/quote]

Jones impressed at the senior bowl. Remember most "experts" said the Mahomes draft class was bad. Anything can happen

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218279]Jones impressed at the senior bowl. Remember most "experts" said the Mahomes draft class was bad. Anything can happen[/quote]

"anything can happen" is the worst rationale that could possibly be used for drafting a player. Should we use our first round pick on kicker? why not - anything can happen!

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"Dan, I strongly advise you to hire Bruce Allen"

Dan: "What's the driving logic?"

"Anything can happen"

Dan: "You're right, lets go with that"

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218280]"anything can happen" is the worst rationale that could possibly be used for drafting a player. Should we use our first round pick on kicker? why not - anything can happen![/quote]

Not saying just guess and pick a guy, I'm saying the draft projections on these guys isn't near accurate enough. Who's to say Jones isn't a great QB in the making? The draft is a crapshoot at almost every position.

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I'm just saying for those that say wait until round 4 or 5 to draft a QB need to understand the chances of that QB actually doing anything are VERY slim. Tom Brady isn't walking around yearly in the late rounds, that was pure luck for NE to find the Goat in the 6th. Most franchise QB's are 1st round guys.

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[url]https://twitter.com/dkurtenbach/status/1091397116306419713?s=21[/url]

This does not sound like a guy interested in playing football. Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole anywhere near the first three rounds.

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He’s playing football, it’s simple economics. In baseball you have to toil away in the minors before you get called up and if you’re any good you’ll eventually get a good contract. In football as a first round pick he’s getting paid right away.

Look at what Payne got last year at 13, $14.4M guaranteed.


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[quote=MTK;1218311]He’s playing football, it’s simple economics. In baseball you have to toil away in the minors before you get called up and if you’re any good you’ll eventually get a good contract. In football as a first round pick he’s getting paid right away.

Look at what Payne got last year at 13, $14.4M guaranteed.


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Counterpoint: You can make more money in baseball lifetime not to mention you don't have to sacrifice your body either. Not as easy a choice as it seems.

Sure you get more money upfront in the NFL but even if he does play in the NFL I'm not sure I'd see him fully committed to it long term. He literally looks clueless in this interview about what his short-term draft plan is. Why is that? 2 weeks before the combine and you're not even sure if you are going or if you will do the pro day?

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Bad interview but everything I’ve read and heard about him says he’s football first.


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[quote=mooby;1218310][url]https://twitter.com/dkurtenbach/status/1091397116306419713?s=21[/url]

This does not sound like a guy interested in playing football. Wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole anywhere near the first three rounds.[/quote]

Listened live...he sounds like an arrogant piece of shit