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GridIron26 01-04-2019 11:51 AM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
Since we have big question mark with QB position - Redskins will have to explore for every opportunity to improve the position. I came across one article talking about Kyle Shurmur from Vanderbilt. I don't like the idea of drafting a QB just to be game manager although, Redskins is not in a position where they can find adequate replacement for next season unless we trade up in draft. Lot of people are saying that 2019 draft is not best year to draft QB and 2020 draft will be deep with QB. With that said, If Redskins choose to focus on improving team this year for long-term run (either for Alex or new QB) and they get an opportunity to draft a QB after first 2 or 3 rounds this year, I wouldn't oppose to this strategy.

I don't watch college football so I don't know anything about this QB. I'm curious to see what you guys think of this idea?

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/12/31/18155457/the-redskins-need-help-at-qb-now-kyle-shurmur-can-compete-now[/url]

BigHairedAristocrat 01-04-2019 12:31 PM

Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
Bye Zach brown. Won’t miss you

[url]https://twitter.com/burgundyblog/status/1081042844096360448?s=21[/url]


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skinsfaninok 01-04-2019 12:54 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1216021]Bye Zach brown. Won’t miss you

[url]https://twitter.com/burgundyblog/status/1081042844096360448?s=21[/url]


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I don't think he really dissed the organization, he actually spoke the truth in someways.

Also saying we wouldn't miss ZB is a HUGE Overreaction. He is a top 5 LB at his Position.

MTK 01-04-2019 01:06 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
These dummies just need to stop talking


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Chico23231 01-04-2019 01:28 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=MTK;1216026]These dummies just need to stop talking


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they have no media savvy. These idiots need to realize...especially DC media, they are vultures who don't give a shit, they are doing their best to cause controversy for their own benefit. Its money in their pocket to go viral with controversial comments.

skinsfaninok 01-04-2019 01:32 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
NFL.COM Has a "top 5 landing spots for AB"

The Skins are one of them lolol

How the F$$$ do they think the skins can pay/afford AB??

So dumb

MTK 01-04-2019 01:36 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
ZB is gone anyway, [URL="https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/zach-brown-9862/"]just look at his cap hit for 2019[/URL]... $8.75M, he's due $4.5M in guarantees in March. Bye.

skinsfaninok 01-04-2019 01:49 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=MTK;1216029]ZB is gone anyway, [URL="https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/zach-brown-9862/"]just look at his cap hit for 2019[/URL]... $8.75M, he's due $4.5M in guarantees in March. Bye.[/quote]

Hard to replace him tho

FrenchSkin 01-04-2019 02:54 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1216030]Hard to replace him tho[/quote]

Yeah if he's gone ILB is even more of a need. No matter what scheme you play...

MTK 01-04-2019 02:59 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1216030]Hard to replace him tho[/QUOTE]



SDH and Foster with Mason backing them up

Done


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mooby 01-04-2019 03:10 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
Anybody read the comments on that Zach Brown quote? He went hard on the media for posting that, implying it's false (my guess is he probably thought he was speaking off the record to The Athletic).

MTK 01-04-2019 04:23 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
The good ol blame the media routine. How about this to guys like ZB and Mason, just stop running your mouth, and stop thinking something you post on social media is "private". Morons.

Chico23231 01-04-2019 05:54 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=mooby;1216046]Anybody read the comments on that Zach Brown quote? He went hard on the media for posting that, implying it's false (my guess is he probably thought he was speaking off the record to The Athletic).[/quote]

This isn’t the same as swearinger and not as harsh.

One thing that is true, manusky is trash. And jays picks at dc have been garbage. The team brings this shit on themselves and are complicit

FrenchSkin 01-04-2019 06:05 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
One things for sure, between Mason and Zach, if we don't have a new DC next season, our LB corps will either be composed of new guys, or have a very bad relationship with their coach.

SolidSnake84 01-04-2019 07:36 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1216071]This isn’t the same as swearinger and not as harsh.

One thing that is true, manusky is trash. And jays picks at dc have been garbage. The team brings this shit on themselves and are complicit[/quote]

And now that we know Jay is confirmed coming back for 2019, i'm sure we will see a lot more of this kind of stuff with players mouthing off to the media.

mooby 01-04-2019 09:29 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1216071]This isn’t the same as swearinger and not as harsh.

[B]One thing that is true, manusky is trash[/B]. And jays picks at dc have been garbage. The team brings this shit on themselves and are complicit[/quote]

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GridIron26 01-07-2019 10:11 AM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
For those people who talked shit about Kerrigan: [url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/06/ryan-kerrigan-quietly-ranked-nfl-best/[/url]

mooby 01-07-2019 10:16 AM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
Look at old man Suggs on that list too, damn can't believe he's still getting it done. I saw him getting pressure in yesterday's game too.

One thing's for sure, the Ravens better have a decent replacement for Ozzie Newsome.

Chico23231 01-07-2019 10:18 AM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=GridIron26;1216325]For those people who talked shit about Kerrigan: [url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/06/ryan-kerrigan-quietly-ranked-nfl-best/[/url][/quote]

He steady, never injured and makes impact plays. This is a guy we cant lose. Thanks for sharing.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-07-2019 10:53 AM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
Slightly off topic, but it looks like we’ll be getting 3 compensatory picks next year (3,5,6).

[url]https://overthecap.com/projecting-the-2019-compensatory-picks/[/url]


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MTK 01-07-2019 11:04 AM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=GridIron26;1216325]For those people who talked shit about Kerrigan: [URL]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/06/ryan-kerrigan-quietly-ranked-nfl-best/[/URL][/quote]

Back to back 13 sack seasons... he's the type of player we won't fully appreciate until he's retired.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2019 11:11 AM

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[quote=MTK;1216335]Back to back 13 sack seasons... he's the type of player we won't fully appreciate until he's retired.[/quote]

With this being said, what would RK command on a trade? 1st round? 2nd?

It's am option for this team that is desperate for a QB

jamf 01-07-2019 11:30 AM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=GridIron26;1216325]For those people who talked shit about Kerrigan: [url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/06/ryan-kerrigan-quietly-ranked-nfl-best/[/url][/quote]


He turned a bad start into a really good year.
I don't think he had a sack till week 4 or 5 so there was talk he was done.

He's a good player and will probably be the Redskins all time sack leader when he is done.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2019 11:54 AM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
RK is a good player but he's not an IMPACT player. Meaning he isn't going to scare anyone, which is fine. We need a guy that is consistent and he has been that. I would still shop him around and see if we could get a 1 for him.

Chico23231 01-07-2019 12:00 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1216344]RK is a good player but [B]he's not an IMPACT [/B]player. Meaning he isn't going to scare anyone, which is fine. We need a guy that is consistent and he has been that. I would still shop him around and see if we could get a 1 for him.[/quote]

He's not an IMPACT Personality on a team that doesn't matter do to poor front office management.

RK isn't about RK and is largely forgotten throughout the league

skinsfaninok 01-07-2019 12:17 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1216345]He's not an IMPACT Personality on a team that doesn't matter do to poor front office management.

RK isn't about RK and is largely forgotten throughout the league[/quote]

That is also a good point

GridIron26 01-07-2019 12:57 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1216344]RK is a good player but he's not an IMPACT player. Meaning he isn't going to scare anyone, which is fine. We need a guy that is consistent and he has been that. I would still shop him around and see if we could get a 1 for him.[/quote]

Depending on what you would want to do with the pick we get for Kerrigan - if you want use the pick to trade up to draft a QB then we would be creating a need, just to fill in another need.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2019 01:22 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=GridIron26;1216350]Depending on what you would want to do with the pick we get for Kerrigan - if you want use the pick to trade up to draft a QB then we would be creating a need, just to fill in another need.[/quote]

I'd rather just rebuild. Unless Alex comes back 100% or he retires and we sign a guy like Foles, I don't care to finish 7-9 again next yr. Just rebuild it now and start over

KI Skins Fan 01-07-2019 01:23 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
Please stop the Kerrigan nonsense! He is not part of the problem. Just leave him alone and focus on the weak position players who need to be replaced.

KI Skins Fan 01-07-2019 01:30 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1216353]I'd rather just rebuild. Unless Alex comes back 100% or he retires and we sign a guy like Foles, I don't care to finish 7-9 again next yr. Just rebuild it now and start over[/quote]

I expect next season to be a whole lot like this past season. I'll be deja vu all over again. We're going nowhere with the current GM and HC. If you want a preview of next season, just set up a treadmill in your basement facing a blank wall, put it on slow, and start plodding along to nowhere..

Skinsfanatic 01-07-2019 01:30 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1216354]Please stop the Kerrigan nonsense! He is not part of the problem. Just leave him alone and focus on the weak position players who need to be replaced.[/quote]

This. Find trades where we give away malcontents we should cut so we can get back draft picks (even if they are just late rounders) and get salary relief. If we can dump some of those salaries, it could put us in a position to eat the cost of releasing Alex if he chooses not to continue his career.

I hate to say this, but 2019 needs to be based on how to be the best team possible in 2020.

KI Skins Fan 01-07-2019 01:37 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=Skinsfanatic;1216356]This. Find trades where we give away malcontents we should cut so we can get back draft picks (even if they are just late rounders) and get salary relief. If we can dump some of those salaries, it could put us in a position to eat the cost of releasing Alex if he chooses not to continue his career.

[B]I hate to say this, but 2019 needs to be based on how to be the best team possible in 2020.[/B][/quote]

That's probably true but i don't think it can happen with Bruce and Jay in charge.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2019 01:44 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
Not saying RK is a problem, I'm saying he's a legit trade bait. Team would like to have him especially as a 2nd Edge guy. I'm looking at 2020, 2019 is going to be another BS bleh year unless we see major change to the FO and other coaches on the staff.

MTK 01-07-2019 01:49 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1216358]Not saying RK is a problem, I'm saying he's a legit trade bait. Team would like to have him especially as a 2nd Edge guy. I'm looking at 2020, 2019 is going to be another BS bleh year unless we see major change to the FO and other coaches on the staff.[/QUOTE]



If we let Preston walk and then trade RK that leaves us with pretty much nothing from an edge rusher perspective



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skinsfaninok 01-07-2019 01:56 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=MTK;1216359]If we let Preston walk and then trade RK that leaves us with pretty much nothing from an edge rusher perspective



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Anderson came along solid but I'm just saying as far as gaining 1's. If RK can't get us a 1st then I'd say keep him

Meks 01-07-2019 02:44 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
I dont recall if D.J. was a free agent after this year... but if he wasnt, pretty effing dumb to cut him to make yourselves look good when you could have at the least gotten a 3rd or 4th for him if planned on cutting him anyway.

Skinsfanatic 01-07-2019 02:47 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=Meks;1216368]I dont recall if D.J. was a free agent after this year... but if he wasnt, pretty effing dumb to cut him to make yourselves look good when you could have at the least gotten a 3rd or 4th for him if planned on cutting him anyway.[/quote]

He still had a year left I think. We should have benched and then traded him.

Meks 01-07-2019 02:49 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
As for the RK talk.... I'm thinking it might be good to bring in a rookie or younger player with more speed and jump, to either challenge for the position or split time. He's still a good to great player and one of my favorites but, the guy just doesn't change the game the way he used to 5 years ago... and smith on the other side... the guys are only average as far as today's edge rushers go (on a consistent basis view anyway) and it's been noticeable. We have the interior push now and it will only improve. Ya need someone to split time with kerrigan/smith that will be a bigger impact in the rush IMO.

Meks 01-07-2019 02:51 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[quote=Skinsfanatic;1216369]He still had a year left I think. We should have benched and then traded him.[/quote]

thats fucking stupid then, go figure, the FO morons strike again.. trying to look good and disciplined lmao - thats not the team mentality or culture we need. Fucking burn it down. Stupid move.

Meks 01-07-2019 02:52 PM

Re: Offseason starts now: A Redskins players thread
 
[IMG]https://www.pinterest.com/pin/326722147951066585/[/IMG]

wtf why doesnt this pic show up?


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