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[quote=irish;1232408]Thanks for the link. Hoffman basically says the Skins have no plan, try to split hairs, and do things on the fly. Sad.[/quote]

Andy Reid twice have suckered Bruce and Dan into taking past prime QB in extremely knee jerk trades. Not once, but twice. And both times didnt consult coaches and both weren't scheme fits for the particular offenses. On the fly franchise setting-back decisions...

Dan has never changed, he's never learned a fuckin thing in this business

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We are at an all time low folks, this could be the worst season in skins history

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[quote=Chico23231;1232421]Andy Reid twice have suckered Bruce and Dan into taking past prime QB in extremely knee jerk trades. Not once, but twice. And both times didnt consult coaches and both weren't scheme fits for the particular offenses. On the fly franchise setting-back decisions...

Dan has never changed, he's never learned a fuckin thing in this business[/quote]
He enjoys playing GM more than he wants to win.

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They should just put a concrete sarcophagus over Fed Ex field and leave it as a monument to Snyder Redskins Chernobyl-like disgrace of a franchise. I swear, I cant believe after 20 year this piece of shit has destroyed my team.

the next hurricane that forms, I want to put Snyder on his yacht and sail that bitch right into it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1232421]Andy Reid twice have suckered Bruce and Dan into taking past prime QB in extremely knee jerk trades. Not once, but twice. And both times didnt consult coaches and both weren't scheme fits for the particular offenses. On the fly franchise setting-back decisions...

Dan has never changed, he's never learned a fuckin thing in this business[/quote]

Hes done it again with Haskins. The next HC is walking into a pre-arranged marriage with Haskins.

Already our new GM and HC search is compromised.

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Pierre Garcon weighs in on Twitter:

Pierre Garçon
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Is it too early to talk about new potential head coaches? Asking for a friend and alums of the Redskins

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Send him our way Pierre!!

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[quote=SunnySide;1232428]Hes done it again with Haskins. The next HC is walking into a pre-arranged marriage with Haskins.

Already our new GM and HC search is compromised.[/quote]

This is true. The next HC is going to have to publicly commit into making Haskins a franchise qb.

If I'm Dan Snyder here's my plan:

1. fire Bruce Allen, and probably Doug Williams by extension.

Interview for GM/Team President. Open it to everybody willing to work for Dan. Your Team President will be Dan's handler for football ops, and most likely final power for making major football decisions. The GM should be hands-off when it comes to building the coaching staff, GM hires the HC and the HC hires the entire coaching staff.

Team President/GM/HC all in one - not preferred

Team President/GM -> HC

Team President -> GM -> HC

Kyle Smith deserves an interview for GM, but obviously he's too young to be Team Prez and GM.

Same thing with O'Connell for HC, even though I'm not sold on him after the underwhelming start to the season. It's easy to lay the blame on Gruden for how we're playing but O'Connell surely has some responsibility for it too.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232390]If Snyder really "tried" to fire Gruden, he would be fired. The owner of the team can do that. I agree on Gibbs, but I don't think much of Dungy. Honestly, unless Dan changes [not likely] it isn't going to matter who takes Allen or Gruden's place.

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I think Gibbs might be the only person who can talk Snyder into firing Bruce.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1232390]If Snyder really "tried" to fire Gruden, he would be fired. The owner of the team can do that. I agree on Gibbs, but I don't think much of Dungy. Honestly, unless Dan changes [not likely] it isn't going to matter who takes Allen or Gruden's place.

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Exactly. That is the real 500 lb turd in the room. I mean how many times do we have to see it, and the more time goes by, and the more we showcase our ineptitude the less of a chance a ringer arrives in Washington. He has our fandom by the nuts in a vulcan death grip, and we are powerless. He literally has ruined what used to be a really fun part of my life.

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Let's say Dan fires Allen. He's just going to bring in a another lackey. He needs to hire people who he can be his buddies. He should go hire Nick Caserio off the Pats and give him total control of the operation. It's somebody who's been around the best, understand what it takes to win and it's someone who isn't familiar w/ the Redskins. He has no connections to our past like Doug or Bruce. Then let him hire the next head coach and figure out what to do with the roster.

I can't understand how Snyder was so successful before the Redskins. To do what he did you have to give the man credit. He's obviously not a dummy, but he has been a dummy being the majority owner of the Skins.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1232471]Let's say Dan fires Allen. He's just going to bring in a another lackey. He needs to hire people who he can be his buddies. He should go hire Nick Caserio off the Pats and give him total control of the operation. It's somebody who's been around the best, understand what it takes to win and it's someone who isn't familiar w/ the Redskins. He has no connections to our past like Doug or Bruce. Then let him hire the next head coach and figure out what to do with the roster.



I can't understand how Snyder was so successful before the Redskins. To do what he did you have to give the man credit. He's obviously not a dummy, but he has been a dummy being the majority owner of the Skins.[/QUOTE]



I’m sure to a man, every Skins fan in the world would be for this exact scenario, but that is like leaving the prettiest girl at the dance for the crack whore across the street looking for cigarette butts in the ashtray.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1232471]Let's say Dan fires Allen. He's just going to bring in a another lackey. He needs to hire people who he can be his buddies. He should go hire Nick Caserio off the Pats and give him total control of the operation. It's somebody who's been around the best, understand what it takes to win and it's someone who isn't familiar w/ the Redskins. He has no connections to our past like Doug or Bruce. Then let him hire the next head coach and figure out what to do with the roster.

I can't understand how Snyder was so successful before the Redskins. To do what he did you have to give the man credit. He's obviously not a dummy, but he has been a dummy being the majority owner of the Skins.[/quote]

He has had a lot of failed operations and a few hits. Timing can be everything.

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Danny has Eric Shaeffer, give him Allens position.

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My lord his presser yesterday was just embarrassing. Pretty much blaming the fans for selling their tickets. Fucking jackass. The culture here is "damn good"? Get the fuck outta here you fucking weasel.

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Here is a recent Al Galdi twitter post:

Theory for why #BruceAllen survives & is still running #Redskins: existence of arrangement to become (gulp) a minority owner in #Skins off stadium deal. Personal $$ + revenue tied to new stadium for part ownership. Incentivizes him getting best possible deal. Would explain a lot.

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Minority owner... FFS

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minority owner? this would be horrific

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While general manager, Allen attempted to bridge the connection between the modern Redskins and the glory years of past, include hosting golf tournaments with former players and coaches, to bringing back the gold pants that his father's team had used during the 1970s.[9] On May 26, 2014, Allen was officially given the title of "President" by owner Daniel Snyder.[10] Allen had previously used the title some days before in a letter to US Senator Harry Reid regarding the Redskins name controversy.[11] Allen abdicated his title of general manager after the Redskins hired Scot McCloughan to be their general manager on January 7, 2015.[12] In 2019 Redskins' fans have become vocal in their extreme displeasure with Allen and have begun a campaign called "#FireBruceAllen" due to his and the ownership's incompetence. As of the 0-5 start to the 2019 campaign and in light of the 0.429 winning percentage over his tenure, the fans continue to clamor for the dismissal of Bruce Allen.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Allen_(American_football[/url])

Final para of Bruce wiki page. Will that get removed?

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Alright, who of you guys paid for the fire Bruce Allen flying banner?

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/who-paid-for-the-fire-bruce-allen-banner-in-miami-lets-take-some-guesses-201403550.html[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1234258]Alright, who of you guys paid for the fire Bruce Allen flying banner?

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/who-paid-for-the-fire-bruce-allen-banner-in-miami-lets-take-some-guesses-201403550.html[/url][/quote]

Whoever did this needs to do it every Redskins game from now on, it definitely will intensify the spotlight on Allen and Snyder won't be able to ignore this.

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Now we know who paid for the flying banner.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/14/this-redskins-fan-paid-fly-fire-bruce-allen-banner-he-hopes-daniel-snyder-saw-it/?fbclid=IwAR2bfQw64EjIcEjfYBoqyJ-0A_SS8hIFy9ynbYTkgRzHL3SKLsgOwvtGwGI[/url]

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Did they ever show it on the broadcast? I watched the whole thing, but didn't think I saw it.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1234318]Did they ever show it on the broadcast? I watched the whole thing, but didn't think I saw it.[/quote]

It was before the game started so not seen on the game broadcast.

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He should pay for another one that says fuck you too Douche Snyder.

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[quote=GridIron26;1234317]Now we know who paid for the flying banner.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/14/this-redskins-fan-paid-fly-fire-bruce-allen-banner-he-hopes-daniel-snyder-saw-it/?fbclid=IwAR2bfQw64EjIcEjfYBoqyJ-0A_SS8hIFy9ynbYTkgRzHL3SKLsgOwvtGwGI[/url][/quote]

Dude has been a fan since 1956. Mad props to Pops!

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[quote=GridIron26;1234317]Now we know who paid for the flying banner.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/14/this-redskins-fan-paid-fly-fire-bruce-allen-banner-he-hopes-daniel-snyder-saw-it/?fbclid=IwAR2bfQw64EjIcEjfYBoqyJ-0A_SS8hIFy9ynbYTkgRzHL3SKLsgOwvtGwGI[/url][/quote]

That man should never have to pay for a beer in DC again.

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[quote=mooby;1234348]That man should never have to pay for a beer in DC again.[/quote]

He can have some free beers in San Diego too.

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#funBrucefacts

[url]https://twitter.com/chucksapienza/status/1184144846593900544[/url]

[quote=Chuck Sapienza]
According to @pfref Bruce Allen’s winning percentage with #Redskins is .364

If Bill Belichick lost remaining 10 games this season, then went 0-16 for next 23years, his winning percentage would be .368

So if Bill lost his next 378 games, he would still be better than Bruce #NFL
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[quote=mooby;1234415]#funBrucefacts

[url]https://twitter.com/chucksapienza/status/1184144846593900544[/url][/quote]

So much for Snyder wanting to win. Surely this fact contradicts that unfounded belief among some Redskins fans.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1234418]So much for Snyder wanting to win. Surely this fact contradicts that unfounded belief among some Redskins fans.[/quote]

Probably the dumbest quote that any of us make on here is "Snyder wants to win"

Of course he'd like to win, as long as winning goes hand in hand with selling out the stadium and moving merchandise.

If Snyder truly cared about winning, Bruce would be long gone.

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Oh please please please please please fire him!

[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2864860-redskins-rumors-dan-snyder-truly-evaluating-bruce-allens-status-with-team[/url]

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I hope this is not false hope.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/redskins-owner-dan-snyder-considering-drastic-changes-open-to-firing-president-bruce-allen-per-report/[/url]

Snyder would have the biggest PR win by firing Allen. And of course, the team would automatically improve.

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Addition by subtraction.


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Being reported by multiple sources now. Where’s there’s smoke there’s fire...

Can’t wait until that piece of garbage is gone.


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[quote=Ruhskins;1238011]I hope this is not false hope.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/redskins-owner-dan-snyder-considering-drastic-changes-open-to-firing-president-bruce-allen-per-report/[/url]

Snyder would have the biggest PR win by firing Allen. And of course, the team would automatically improve.

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With so much change occurring with coaching staff and personnel decisions to be made this offseason, it’s a must Bruce has to go.

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[quote=Chico23231;1238014]With so much change occurring with coaching staff and personnel decisions to be made this offseason, it’s a must Bruce has to go.[/quote]

Grant Paulsen tweeted that he's heard the same thing for years and nothing has came of it. He also said that he feels that on a 2-9 team, everyone is being evaluated. Until he is re-assigned or fired, it is essentially a non-story.

[url]https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/1200826449713934336?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet[/url]

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Fuck Bruce Allen

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Sheehan has been alluding on his pod Bruce is gone after this year and keeps hinting he has an inside source (probably Cooley).

Idk how much stock to put in a hint of a hint but dear baby Jesus please.

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It’s a no brainer for Snyder, he knows the fans hate Allen, attendance and ticket sales are down in the toilet. Snyder knows he needs to do something, he has too.