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mooby 10-07-2019 11:55 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1233460]Per Espn's Ed Werder

"The Redskins top 3 candidates are , Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles , Eric Bieniemy"[/quote]

The source knows Snyder well.

I'm gonna take a wild guess, Bruce Allen is running the search for a new HC.

Chico23231 10-07-2019 11:55 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=mooby;1233500]Pass on Sweeney, SI wrote an article that painted his culture at Clemson as recruiting kids who are willing to accept JC as their lord and savior. Not sure that style would work in a pro locker room.[/quote]

This isn’t an issue and most football players are black athletes from the south raised in a religious household...I don’t think it’s that big of an issue. Being religious isn’t a negative imo

mooby 10-07-2019 11:58 AM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=Chico23231;1233504]This isn’t an issue and most football players are black athletes from the south raised in a religious household...I don’t think it’s that big of an issue. Being religious isn’t a negative imo[/quote]

I'm just not sure you can build a team culture that revolves around faith in a pro locker room. There are a ton of guys playing pro football for different reasons. Money and fame being one of them.

If he was a coach in the mold of Gibbs I wouldn't mind, Gibbs lead by example. Not sure Swinney does the same.

Edit: Here's the article by SI. Faith is the foundation of Clemson's program.

[url]https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/09/04/clemson-dabo-swinney-religion-culture[/url]

Ruhskins 10-07-2019 12:02 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
Pierre Garcon taking a shot at Jay (at least that's how I see it)

[url]https://twitter.com/PierreGarcon/status/1181197077008789505[/url]

skinsfaninok 10-07-2019 12:05 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1233506]Pierre Garcon taking a shot at Jay (at least that's how I see it)

[url]https://twitter.com/PierreGarcon/status/1181197077008789505[/url][/quote]

Def a shot

mooby 10-07-2019 12:09 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1233508]Def a shot[/quote]

+1

I have no hate for Pierre Garcon but shitting on Jay after he was fired does nothing.

BaltimoreSkins 10-07-2019 12:28 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
It's kind of confusing. It starts as a shot at Jay and then talks about media games which are the FO's wheel house. What media games has Jay played?

MTK 10-07-2019 12:29 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1233516]It's kind of confusing. It starts as a shot at Jay and then talks about media games which are the FO's wheel house. What media games has Jay played?[/quote]

Some people believe Jay was behind a lot of stuff that got leaked to the media

skinsfan69 10-07-2019 12:31 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=mooby;1233511]+1

I have no hate for Pierre Garcon but shitting on Jay after he was fired does nothing.[/quote]

Exactly. Twitter talk is so lame.

skinsfan69 10-07-2019 12:33 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=MTK;1233517]Some people believe Jay was behind a lot of stuff that got leaked to the media[/quote]

Well he didn't leak that video. That was 100% Redskins front office. How does that get out a couple days before he's fired?

jamf 10-07-2019 12:47 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=mooby;1233511]+1

I have no hate for Pierre Garcon but shitting on Jay after he was fired does nothing.[/quote]
Stating the obvious is shitting on Jay?
Jay has been shitting on all of us all season with this this QB bullshit about best QB starting and Haskins not being ready. Gruden shit on Haskins all season just to get Colt another shot. Fuck Jay.

mooby 10-07-2019 12:48 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=jamf;1233521]Stating the obvious is shitting on Jay?
Jay has been shitting on all of us all season with this this QB bullshit about best QB starting and Haskins not being ready. Gruden shit on Haskins all season just to get Colt another shot. Fuck Jay.[/quote]

Do you think Haskins is ready and Jay was holding him back? Because I don't.

jamf 10-07-2019 12:54 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=mooby;1233522]Do you think Haskins is ready and Jay was holding him back? Because I don't.[/quote]
I think Jays agenda was to get Colt another shot not get the best out of all his QBs and focus on the future Franchise QB specifically.



No Haskins isn't ready but he never had a shot at being ready either.

EARTHQUAKE2689 10-07-2019 12:54 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=mooby;1233522]Do you think Haskins is ready and Jay was holding him back? Because I don't.[/quote]

I wouldnt go that far but I do 100% think that Jay never gave Haskins a fair shot to win anything

DYoungJelly 10-07-2019 12:57 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[QUOTE=SunnySide;1233464]Yeah, thats what Portis and Cooley said.



Zorn they said did divide the rocker room with religion. Guys like Antwaan Randle-El who prayed everyday w Zorn got treated differently. Sherman Smith would do daily sermons?

[url]https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/washington-redskins-jim-zorn-clinton-portis-christianity-locker-room-102115[/url][/QUOTE]God was/is the most important thing in Gibbs life. He has said it many times and advocated his players adopt the same approach.

His entire existence and life philosophy is based on his religion. The difference is he treated everyone as an individual rather than a member of a certain group

He was a quiet example always willing to talk but never pushy or condescending. Portis is quoted in the link saying as much.

Discounting Gibbs belief in God and how it affected his coaching of men is nothing short of re-writing history.

He has been interviewed many, many times about it.

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jamf 10-07-2019 12:57 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
I also believe all the leaks about Haskins being forced on Jay was leaked by Jay.
The video of Jay partying was retaliation from the team.

Regardless of all this bullshit, Jay isn't a professional head coach and this isn't a professional organization.

BaltimoreSkins 10-07-2019 12:58 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
Almost 1pm. First time in 4.5 years that BA speaks to the media

skinsfan69 10-07-2019 01:01 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
Let's see what this clown has to say.

BaltimoreSkins 10-07-2019 01:02 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
jesus you forget how bad of a public speaker he is

Chico23231 10-07-2019 01:11 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
Media isn't holding back..they are coming after Bruce

Chico23231 10-07-2019 01:13 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
When Bruce said the culture is damn good....I just cut it off...I cant take anymore garbage

BaltimoreSkins 10-07-2019 01:15 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
WTF was that?!

jamf 10-07-2019 01:18 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
Fuck me! I got a call and missed it!skljdflkjsdlkfjsd:lkfjsd:lkf jsfjsl:kdjf:lksdjf:lksdjfkl:jsdlfk:jsd:lkj

sdskinsfan2001 10-07-2019 01:19 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
The culture is good????? Bahahahahahaha. This franchise has no chance. We have 2 of the biggest losers in NFL FO history running the team. I genuinely hate them both as human beings. What a couple pieces of shit's.

BaltimoreSkins 10-07-2019 01:21 PM

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[quote=jamf;1233537]Fuck me! I got a call and missed it!skljdflkjsdlkfjsd:lkfjsd:lkf jsfjsl:kdjf:lksdjf:lksdjfkl:jsdlfk:jsd:lkj[/quote]

Recap

Not trading Trent

Fans are selling tickets on secondary market

The culture is damn good

No you can't talk to Dan yes he makes himself accessible to the media

skinsfan69 10-07-2019 01:21 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
Allen is such a big pile of hot air. He's a tin man. He is so much to blame for the teams failures but doesn't take accountability for his actions.

Indian-brave 10-07-2019 01:27 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
You watch now. I was a week too early on the turn around story. My playoff prediction still holds till its obviously impossible. Haskins will save the day.
It's season 100. The miraculous and fantastic happens.
You saw a tough defense develop. Now it's the offenses turn. #7 throws to number #17 all day, like a bad game of madden vs a AI cheeser.

Buffalo Bob 10-07-2019 01:27 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=Chico23231;1233534]When Bruce said the culture is damn good....I just cut it off...I cant take anymore garbage[/quote]

Hey he has proof, talking about being in first place this time, last year. The culture was the same then as it is now. The damn weasel should run for political office, he is real good at deflecting and making excuses.

Chico23231 10-07-2019 01:28 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1233540]Allen is such a big pile of hot air. He's a tin man. He is so much to blame for the teams failures but doesn't take accountability for his actions.[/quote]

He takes no accountability. And he is fine with fans selling tickets on the secondary markets to the opposition. Great

Buffalo Bob 10-07-2019 01:32 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=mooby;1233511]+1

I have no hate for Pierre Garcon but shitting on Jay after he was fired does nothing.[/quote]

Agreed, and Garcon flourished while he was here and got plenty of targets.

sdskinsfan2001 10-07-2019 01:39 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
What does it matter if Patriots fans buy their tickets directly or on the secondary market?

Your fans don't want to come to your games because you and Dan Snyder are pieces of garbage. Oh man, to be a media member in that room.

Buffalo Bob 10-07-2019 01:50 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1233548]What does it matter if Patriots fans buy their tickets directly or on the secondary market?

Your fans don't want to come to your games because you and Dan Snyder are pieces of garbage. Oh man, to be a media member in that room.[/quote]

Aren't all NFL tickets other than season ones sold on the secondary markets these days? I didn't think anyone walks up to a box office on NFL stadium grounds and buys tickets any more. For the record I haven't attended an NFL game since the Rams were in Anaheim, Ca. Some of you probably weren't even born then.

calia 10-07-2019 03:04 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[QUOTE=Indian-brave;1233541]You watch now. I was a week too early on the turn around story. My playoff prediction still holds till its obviously impossible. Haskins will save the day.

It's season 100. The miraculous and fantastic happens.

You saw a tough defense develop. Now it's the offenses turn. #7 throws to number #17 all day, like a bad game of madden vs a AI cheeser.[/QUOTE]



Oh, now this fuckstick is back. We need two things right away - BA to be shitcanned and IB to fuck off.

We cannot control the first, but Matty....


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skinsfaninok 10-07-2019 03:11 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
Bill seems to have a good plan we'll see

skinsfan69 10-07-2019 03:18 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=calia;1233560]Oh, now this fuckstick is back. We need two things right away - BA to be shitcanned and IB to fuck off.

We cannot control the first, but Matty....


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Just ignore him.

EARTHQUAKE2689 10-07-2019 03:22 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1233565]Just ignore him.[/quote]

I blocked him, makes life easier

Buffalo Bob 10-07-2019 03:34 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=calia;1233560]Oh, now this fuckstick is back. We need two things right away - BA to be shitcanned and IB to fuck off.

We cannot control the first, but Matty....


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Stop feeding the troll, if you do not feed them they will die.

MTK 10-07-2019 03:41 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1233539]Recap



Not trading Trent



Fans are selling tickets on secondary market



The culture is damn good



No you can't talk to Dan yes he makes himself accessible to the media[/QUOTE]


Proof that the Skins will continue to be fucked. The front office is chuck full of ignorance and incompetence.



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mooby 10-07-2019 05:57 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[url]https://twitter.com/1067theFan/status/1181231901497024512[/url]

Lombardi with the good analogy, says firing Jay is like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic.

Indian-brave 10-07-2019 06:10 PM

Re: Jay Gruden fired
 
[quote=calia;1233560]Oh, now this fuckstick is back. We need two things right away - BA to be shitcanned and IB to fuck off.

We cannot control the first, but Matty....


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I'm an adult. Youre an adult. We are talking about trivial tv sports. You'd rather spend the next 16 weeks..." it sucks, we suck ,Snyder sucks...yeah, that sounds like fun and intelligent sports banter..
I've researched my current view of sports for 4 years. The Redskins will quietly go 1-6 the next 2 weeks, losing to SF.
Then they will start winning. If you're so knowledgeable about football, you've noticed the parity era that teams win and lose in unexpected, unexplainable bunches..bad first half season, good second half. Have you not noticed? Half the league is rookie and back up QBs. Dallas lost 2 in a row and Giants have holes. Eagles are skitzo, high and low.
Haskins will go off on miami and you'll say ..yeah, but it's just Miami. They'll lose to Niners but have a good showing.
You'll think.. "man, if they just would have started better... then 3 wins appear, then 4, 5. The nfc east splits wins with each other. Skins go 4-4 in division. What ever math it takes, Skins will be in playoffs. Haskins has too much JuJu. You'll see....
But go ahead, spend the next two weeks thinking you have any idea what Snyder thinks or does . While he continues to sit on a pile of money ,laughing at all of us. He's fine. Nothing is wrong in his world.
The Redskins are proud and storied franchise. One of the first 8 to enter the NFL that's lasted this long. This is season 100. The NFL will make sure they are one of the 6 teams in the playoffs this year. Enjoy the season. :)


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