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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233876]Rex Ryan wants the job he has come out and said it lol[/quote]

He would hire his bro as DC, no thanks!!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233876]Rex Ryan wants the job he has come out and said it lol[/quote]

Not as HC, but I would take him as a DC.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1233876]Rex Ryan wants the job he has come out and said it lol[/quote]

Isn’t he into foot play? Sign him up! Imagine the video leaks from the front office when they decide to fire him

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[quote=Chico23231;1233881]Not as HC, but I would take him as a DC.[/quote]

+1

Def. not as head coach. He's never been able to build a competent offense.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1233884]+1



Def. not as head coach. He's never been able to build a competent offense.[/QUOTE]Why the hell not.

At least win the press conference...

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At this point the only viable option who will come here is a ham sandwich.

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Fuck it I'd hire Rex, at least he would be entertaining and he knows how to put together a defense.

Like it matters who the next HC is anyway. We're going to stink regardless.

20 years of BS with Snyder and all we can hope for is the occasional 9-7 or 10-6 and a one and done playoff appearance. What a disgrace.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1233879]He would hire his bro as DC, no thanks!![/quote]

I thought Rob Ryan was already on the defensive staff?

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[quote=MTK;1233901]Fuck it I'd hire Rex, at least he would be entertaining and he knows how to put together a defense.

Like it matters who the next HC is anyway. We're going to stink regardless.

20 years of BS with Snyder and all we can hope for is the occasional 9-7 or 10-6 and a one and done playoff appearance. What a disgrace.[/quote]

If it's Rex or Callahan I'd go Rex

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1233946]I thought Rob Ryan was already on the defensive staff?[/quote]

He’s not a DC.

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[quote=MTK;1233901]Fuck it I'd hire Rex, at least he would be entertaining and he knows how to put together a defense.

Like it matters who the next HC is anyway. We're going to stink regardless.

20 years of BS with Snyder and all we can hope for is the occasional 9-7 or 10-6 and a one and done playoff appearance. What a disgrace.[/quote]

I have always pegged you as almost optimistic to a fault, and now you've had enough of the shenanigans of Snyder and Allen. Yes, yes, let the hate run through you!

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[quote=metalskins;1233982]I have always pegged you as almost optimistic to a fault, and now you've had enough of the shenanigans of Snyder and Allen. Yes, yes, let the hate run through you![/quote]

I noticed the same, poor Matty he has come to the dark side, only took 20 years.

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I haven't had much hope for us in years, maybe I'm just being more vocal about it now.

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[quote=MTK;1233984]I haven't had much hope for us in years, maybe I'm just being more vocal about it now.[/quote]

Don't worry, Matt, it's taken over everyone!

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If we weren't all Skins fans we would comedically laugh at this franchise. We're a fucking embarrassment.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1233988]If we weren't all Skins fans we would comedically laugh at this franchise. We're a fucking embarrassment.[/quote]

You know you've reached a point of no return when you're not even upset that your team loses, even when they get blown out. You just don't care. In recent years, if the 'skins lost, my wife would take our son and go hang out at her parents' house during the game and several hours afterwards to make sure I was cooled off enough. Now, I don't even blink and eye. I'm not even considering going to the Redskins/Panthers game this year - which is in Charlotte - just about an hour from me. Nope, not even considering an hour's drive to see my 'skins live. A waste of money!

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[quote=metalskins;1233989]You know you've reached a point of no return when you're not even upset that your team loses, even when they get blown out. You just don't care. In recent years, if the 'skins lost, my wife would take our son and go hang out at her parents' house during the game and several hours afterwards to make sure I was cooled off enough. Now, I don't even blink and eye. I'm not even considering going to the Redskins/Panthers game this year - which is in Charlotte - just about an hour from me. Nope, not even considering an hour's drive to see my 'skins live. A waste of money![/quote]

I am in Charlotte, got offered tickets and turned them down. Not gonna go sit in the cold for this team.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1233990]I am in Charlotte, got offered tickets and turned them down. Not gonna go sit in the cold for this team.[/quote]

Nope! Now, I'd be OK going to a Panthers game watching them beat the Cowboys, but other than that, no thanks.

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Unless BA is fired, no talented, or experienced OC or DC, who is OUTSIDE the organization, will join the Redskins. Except Rex Ryan, lol.

Fire BA and let the new HC do both the GM & HC duties. THIS will enhance the talent interested in this franchise.


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Unless Snyder hires a real NFL GM and stops meddling in player personnel decisions the end result will be the same and it won't matter who coaches. When I took the Redskins coaching records of Marty Joe and Shanny then compared them to how they did with him to away from him I saw the cold hard truth of the Snyder effect.

At that moment I lost hope unless major changes are made and that includes a light bulb coming on in Snyder's head and he realizes he is a big part of the problem. The Bruce Allen press conference made me want to slap some sense into that idiot. I hope he really doesn't believe the garbage that he spews. "The culture is damn good." Are you kidding me?

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1234085]Unless Snyder hires a real NFL GM and stops meddling in player personnel decisions the end result will be the same and it won't matter who coaches. When I took the Redskins coaching records of Marty Joe and Shanny then compared them to how they did with him to away from him I saw the cold hard truth of the Snyder effect.

At that moment I lost hope unless major changes are made and that includes a light bulb coming on in Snyder's head and he realizes he is a big part of the problem. The Bruce Allen press conference made me want to slap some sense into that idiot. I hope he really doesn't believe the garbage that he spews. "The culture is damn good." Are you kidding me?[/quote]

Bruce deserves all blame but we have no guarantees that Dan wasn't telling him what to say. The culture quote to me, reeks of something Snyder would say.

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Jason La Douche reports:

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dan-snyder-expected-to-make-strong-push-to-acquire-mike-tomlin-from-steelers/[/url]

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1234110]Jason La Douche reports:



[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dan-snyder-expected-to-make-strong-push-to-acquire-mike-tomlin-from-steelers/[/url][/QUOTE]Got halfway through before I saw a line about Tomlin's ties through Tampa Bay.

Is it too hard for the Snyder to be forward thinking instead of looking for a past (failed) connection?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1234111]Got halfway through before I saw a line about Tomlin's ties through Tampa Bay.

Is it too hard for the Snyder to be forward thinking instead of looking for a past (failed) connection?

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It’s called Bruce Allen

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I’m sorry but that’s no catch.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1234111]Got halfway through before I saw a line about Tomlin's ties through Tampa Bay.

Is it too hard for the Snyder to be forward thinking instead of looking for a past (failed) connection?

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3 first rounders and a 2nd should do it. Git'r'done Bruce!

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In my opinion, the reason they haven’t traded Trent Williams is because he is the trade bait for the HC that Snyder wants. After a big failed experiment like Gruden, Snyder always feels that he needs a “BIG SPLASH”. - as if the team is one HC and one draft away from being competitive.

If the Redskins really tank this season, this will force Snyder to give up more control to someone of Tomlin’s stature. Tomlin would be an absolute fool NOT to get WRITTEN Guarantees of NON-interference! That means Tomlin picks his own staff AND has complete player control. Anything else and it’s the same old tune that sank Gibbs, schotteinheimer and Shanahan. Tomlin could build a culture from the ground up.



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[quote=Warthog;1234295]In my opinion, the reason they haven’t traded Trent Williams is because he is the trade bait for the HC that Snyder wants. After a big failed experiment like Gruden, Snyder always feels that he needs a “BIG SPLASH”. - as if the team is one HC and one draft away from being competitive.

If the Redskins really tank this season, this will force Snyder to give up more control to someone of Tomlin’s stature. Tomlin would be an absolute fool NOT to get WRITTEN Guarantees of NON-interference! That means Tomlin picks his own staff AND has complete player control. Anything else and it’s the same old tune that sank Gibbs, schotteinheimer and Shanahan. Tomlin could build a culture from the ground up.



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Steelers don’t need Williams, they got Villanueva, unless they move him to RT.

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All the negative press about TW that I think was supposed to work in our favor has completely backfired- now teams think he is the bad guy and that is the only reason I can think the phone isn’t ringing off the hook with offers....

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[quote=Warthog;1234295]In my opinion, the reason they haven’t traded Trent Williams is because he is the trade bait for the HC that Snyder wants. After a big failed experiment like Gruden, Snyder always feels that he needs a “BIG SPLASH”. - as if the team is one HC and one draft away from being competitive.

If the Redskins really tank this season, this will force Snyder to give up more control to someone of Tomlin’s stature. Tomlin would be an absolute fool NOT to get WRITTEN Guarantees of NON-interference! That means Tomlin picks his own staff AND has complete player control. Anything else and it’s the same old tune that sank Gibbs, schotteinheimer and Shanahan. Tomlin could build a culture from the ground up.



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If TW doesn't show up on week 10, his trade value would be even higher in the off season, as he'd still have 2-years left in his contract.

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[quote=punch it in;1234309]All the negative press about TW that I think was supposed to work in our favor has completely backfired- now teams think he is the bad guy and that is the only reason I can think the phone isn’t ringing off the hook with offers....[/quote]

...Or the phone isn't ringing off the hook with offers because ball-licker-Bruce-Allen told teams Trent won't be traded until after the season so there's no use asking.

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[quote=Warthog;1234295]In my opinion, the reason they haven’t traded Trent Williams is because he is the trade bait for the HC that Snyder wants. After a big failed experiment like Gruden, Snyder always feels that he needs a “BIG SPLASH”. - as if the team is one HC and one draft away from being competitive.

If the Redskins really tank this season, this will force Snyder to give up more control to someone of Tomlin’s stature. Tomlin would be an absolute fool NOT to get WRITTEN Guarantees of NON-interference! That means Tomlin picks his own staff AND has complete player control. Anything else and it’s the same old tune that sank Gibbs, schotteinheimer and Shanahan. Tomlin could build a culture from the ground up.



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Shanahan supposedly had written guarantees of non-interference.... and Allen and Snyder went behind his back to trade tons of picks to move up 3 spots in the draft to be able to pick the QB who would eventually force Shanahan out of town. Written guarantees mean nothing.

Additionally, the redskins would have to trade a TON of draft picks to acquire Tomlin from the Steelers, and this assumes he would want to be here and they'd want to let him go.

The reason the Redskins haven't traded TW is obvious and doesn't involve any crazy conspiracy theory like the one you conjured up:

Bruce Allen is as stubborn as he is stupid.

It really is that simple.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1234315]If TW doesn't show up on week 10, his trade value would be even higher in the off season, as he'd still have 2-years left in his contract.[/quote]

Would it? He'd be 32 years old and a year removed from playing any football.

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[quote=mooby;1234350]...Or the phone isn't ringing off the hook with offers because ball-licker-Bruce-Allen told teams Trent won't be traded until after the season so there's no use asking.[/quote]

Or it is ringing and BA is just ignoring it

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1234380]Would it? He'd be 32 years old and a year removed from playing any football.[/quote]

Even so he's still a top 5 LT.

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[quote=MTK;1234387]Even so he's still a top 5 LT.[/quote]

And with a 2-year contract that will be the basis for any negotiations with any team. Financially this is better than trading for a player that has a year left on their deal.

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Well then through gritted teeth I will say that BA is smart not to trade him before the deadline.

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The number of teams that have the cap space to be able to take Williams into their roster is lower now than it would be in the offseason. BA may be right to wait until then - teams that now have to consider themselves out of the market due to cap constraints may be able to enter the market in February.

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Every coach that comes here ends up hating Snyder and can't wait to get out the door. As long as Snyder owns the team any fans that are left are fucked.

Our only hope is for the fanbase to crumble so bad that the NFL steps in and makes Snyder sell the team.

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[quote=Schneed10;1234393]The number of teams that have the cap space to be able to take Williams into their roster is lower now than it would be in the offseason. BA may be right to wait until then - teams that now have to consider themselves out of the market due to cap constraints may be able to enter the market in February.[/quote]

This assumes TW doesn't show up all season. I would think he would show up so to get one year closer to free agency.

As far as the cap space goes, considering that one of - if not the biggest - reasons for the holdout is MONEY, TW would likely demand a new contract as part of any trade. And that new contract could lower the cap hit this year for Trents new team.

This is all about Bruce's stubbornness.