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When you draft a premiere QB in the first round you are committing the franchise to work with him for 2-4 years . Coach him up, build around him, and give him the real chance to win over that period!

I’m discounting any Redskins coaching reports on Haskins. We have one of the worst teams in the NFL -largely due to piss poor coaching. ALL of the coaches will be gone next year with a new HC and his new staff and the old coaches know it. So it’s not above some outgoing coaches to anonymously trash talk the Redskin’s top two draft picks as a final “f-u” to Bruce Allen and Snyder. Slight possibly to be true but probably not!! Haskins will improve and could be the first real chance to be our franchise QB in over 30 years!!

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1233998]Lombardi claims to have talked to several redskins coaches and their assessment of Haskins paints him as a total bust. Completely uninterested, not not paying attention, not putting in any work, but acting entitled due to his relationship with Snyder and expecting to be enshrined as the starter based solely on his laurels.

If true, and we have a top pick last year, we need to use it on a QB and trade Haskins for whatever conditional 2040 pick we can get.


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Do you have a link. I googled Lombardi Dwayne Haskins and all I found were a few tweets from April.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1234013]Do you have a link. I googled Lombardi Dwayne Haskins and all I found were a few tweets from April.[/QUOTE]



Seriously? The guy has played just over 1/2 a game where he was thrust into a game with no preparation and you want to dump him? Haskins had no reps with the first team the entire preseason. He had no reps at all for any games before he was thrust into the game with the Bears. Then thrust into the middle of a game where he’d played NOT ONCE WITH HIS WR and had a good series of downs. Then 3 INT against an outstanding defense - on that basis you want to dump him?

In his rookie season, Peyton Manning, who actually was getting reps with the first team, also threw 3 INT. I guess you would have dumped him also?

Give the guy a chance. Prepare for a week with the first team. Coach him up. Dumb down the playbook. Start him from the beginning. THEN BEGIN THE EVALUATION PROCESS.

You don’t dump a first round draft pick based on 1/2 a game under the worst circumstances and the comments of a couple disgruntled coaches. I’ve seen written reports that he has been studying his azz off and staying late everyday in tape review.

You prep him with the first team and play him from the beginning of the game. Keep it simple. Then see what happens. This guy has an enormous upside. He deserves an evaluation for several SEASONS, with a proper coaching staff before you decide he’s the future or not.


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Anybody notice Daniel Jones' 3int game yesterday?

Rookie QBs are going to take some lumps.

At 0-5, and with Callahan re-emphasizing the run, surely Haskins knows how to take a snap and hand the ball off...

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Per Sheehan this morning on radio (who i like, middle of the road type):

Lombardi hates Bruce Allen and the Skins

Sheehan (local) has heard the opposite - that Haskins is coachable, good kid, not entitled, that he is putting in the work but he is not the first one in-last one out.

Confirmation bias - if you have the preconceived notion that Haskins is an entitled lazy malcontent then you will flock to this dude named Lombardi's outside opinion as gospel.

I personally am struggling with my preconceived notion of him bc of his Terps spurn, limited action in college playing for a stacked OSU and he was a Snyder pick ... but the kid deserves every chance and right to be his own man, make his own mark and not be judged by our sensitivities from the RG3 debacle. Im trying not to judge a 22 year old's body expressions and "liking" an instagram post of Jay getting fired.

Local reports are that he is coachable and a good kid. I would love to hear that he is "first on in-last one out" ... maybe he'll learn and grow into that as he becomes the QB and leader on this team.

He gets 2 years imo, and I will be as consciously aware as possible of not judging him on a negative curve as a Snyder pick.

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I just say, there is really not much to lose to have him play now.

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I have huge reservations on the body of work at OSU as well. I don't knock the pick QB will always be over valued and with the 15th I have no real problem. I just want the kid to get in so we know what we have.

Here is an interesting read from SI about a few QB "busts" and how their tenures could be the future of Haskins and Rosen.

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/10/10/dolphins-josh-rosen-redskins-dwayne-haskins-nfl-week-6[/url]


There is some validity to it especially when you see the Brady Quinn scenario. Personally I think Rosen is headed to bust territory. Gets drafted, forced to start too soon, coach and OC canned then sent packing for a new QB, land in Miami where they will be drafting another QB. I don't care how mentally tough you think you are losing your job two years in a row weighs on a man.

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[quote=SunnySide;1234019]Per Sheehan this morning on radio (who i like, middle of the road type):

Lombardi hates Bruce Allen and the Skins

Sheehan (local) has heard the opposite - that Haskins is coachable, good kid, not entitled, that he is putting in the work but he is not the first one in-last one out.

Confirmation bias - if you have the preconceived notion that Haskins is an entitled lazy malcontent then you will flock to this dude named Lombardi's outside opinion as gospel.

I personally am struggling with my preconceived notion of him bc of his Terps spurn, limited action in college playing for a stacked OSU and he was a Snyder pick ... but the kid deserves every chance and right to be his own man, make his own mark and not be judged by our sensitivities from the RG3 debacle. Im trying not to judge a 22 year old's body expressions and "liking" an instagram post of Jay getting fired.

Local reports are that he is coachable and a good kid. I would love to hear that he is "first on in-last one out" ... maybe he'll learn and grow into that as he becomes the QB and leader on this team.

He gets 2 years imo, and I will be as consciously aware as possible of not judging him on a negative curve as a Snyder pick.[/quote]

When in doubt, listen to the local guys over national

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1234018]Anybody notice Daniel Jones' 3int game yesterday?

Rookie QBs are going to take some lumps.

At 0-5, and with Callahan re-emphasizing the run, surely Haskins knows how to take a snap and hand the ball off...

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Makes you wonder why the national media isn't jumping all over the Giants for tossing poor Danny to the wolves

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[quote=MTK;1234042]When in doubt, listen to the local guys over national[/quote]

Agreed, and actual reporters like JP, Hoffman, Keim, Michael Phillips.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1234025]I just say, there is really not much to lose to have him play now.[/quote]

I agree. Plus the new HC may or may not want him the same was Jay didn't want RG3. Of course anything regarding the new HC's use of Haskins will be subject to the approval of Snyder.

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Good article:
[url]https://theundefeated.com/features/how-will-washington-move-forward-in-support-of-dwayne-haskins/[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1234052]Good article:
[URL]https://theundefeated.com/features/how-will-washington-move-forward-in-support-of-dwayne-haskins/[/URL][/quote]

Should have fired Jay after last season and started over with a new HC. Also should have cleaned house and traded off assets like Trent, Kerrigan, Norman, etc., and went the nuclear route and cut Alex Smith. This team is never proactive, always reactive. Big reason why we're always spinning our wheels.

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[quote=MTK;1234054]Should have fired Jay after last season and started over with a new HC. Also should have cleaned house and traded off assets like Trent, Kerrigan, Norman, etc., and went the nuclear route and cut Alex Smith. [B]This team is never proactive, always reactive[/B]. Big reason why we're always spinning our wheels.[/quote]

Im hearing a lot of the same complaints over and over...but this statement really resonates because the personnel decision making follows this type of 'No plan" agenda. Did we really need to give out the second or third highest contract in Free agency this past Offseason all for "Splash" effect? Did we have to knee jerk a Alex Smith trade, for 2 years knowing we would never truly commit to Cousins?

ETC...

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[quote=MTK;1234054]Should have fired Jay after last season and started over with a new HC. Also should have cleaned house and traded off assets like Trent, Kerrigan, Norman, etc., and went the nuclear route and cut Alex Smith. This team is never proactive, always reactive. Big reason why we're always spinning our wheels.[/quote]

Jordan Reed needs to go as well. We have to get rid of all of the past mistakes.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1234066]Jordan Reed needs to go as well. We have to get rid of all of the past mistakes.[/QUOTE]



Agreed on Reed, TW, Norman, Richardson, Moses (worth a ham sandwich), Scherff, Vernon Davis,etc. we need to get as many draft picks as possible for the 2020 draft and the new HC.

Biggest chance to get first rate HC is to fire BA, which remains a very remote possibility. Offer the HC position with an open GM position. Take Snyder out of personnel loop.


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[QUOTE=Warthog;1234081]Agreed on Reed, TW, Norman, Richardson, Moses (worth a ham sandwich), Scherff, Vernon Davis,etc. we need to get as many draft picks as possible for the 2020 draft and the new HC.

Biggest chance to get first rate HC is to fire BA, which remains a very remote possibility. Offer the HC position with an open GM position. Take Snyder out of personnel loop.


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[quote=Defensewins;1234066]Jordan Reed needs to go as well. We have to get rid of all of the past mistakes.[/quote]

All the ex-players on the radio, Cooley, B-Mitch, Doc, Riggo, all wonder why they waste a roster spot on the guy. So do I. We have 16 million dollars a year of tight ends between Reed and Davis, one can't stay on the field, one can't catch, and both can't block. How dumb is that?

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I doubt Reed will ever play in the NFL again. Vernon Davis is old and was kept on even though he is a terrible blocking TE. VD was one of Gruden’s pets, same as Colt McCoy, who will be gone next year.

If the team REALLY wants a HC like Tomlin, then Snyder & BA are going to have to surrender some of their power. I’ve seen article after article which rightly blames the two-decade long losing streak of Danny Snyder, ON Snyder. Only a fool or someone who just wants to CASH IN, will come here under the current management circumstances.


BA may live in LA-LA land and and pretend everything is fine, but serious NFL guys like Tomlin aren’t even going to consider the Redskins, unless the Snyder/BA AMATEUR HOUR ends.

Finally I understand why BA hasn’t done anything with TW. TW IS THE BAIT TO GET THE STEELERS TO GIVE UP TOMLIN.


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He’s not ready.

But the reasons why he’s not ready are the real issue.

-Jay didn’t want to draft him

-Jay has made no effort to prepare him (no first team reps at all, didn’t build the offense around him-Kylar Murray was a 1 year starter at OU and is having success in an offense and scheme built around him)

-The QBs that Jay actually WANTS to play STILL don’t play well- suggesting that Jay wouldn’t even know how to prepare him IF he wanted to

-The team isn’t good enough to support a rookie QB

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[QUOTE=30gut;1235829]He’s not ready.



But the reasons why he’s not ready are the real issue.



-Jay didn’t want to draft him



-Jay has made no effort to prepare him (no first team reps at all, didn’t build the offense around him-Kylar Murray was a 1 year starter at OU and is having success in an offense and scheme built around him)



-The QBs that Jay actually WANTS to play STILL don’t play well- suggesting that Jay wouldn’t even know how to prepare him IF he wanted to



-The team isn’t good enough to support a rookie QB[/QUOTE]



First, why are you speak of Jay in the present tense. Jay was was fired almost a month ago.

Second, you neglected to mention the single biggest reason he’s not ready:

Haskins doesn’t know the playbook. He’s been here 6 months and doesn’t know the playbook. That’s 100% on him.


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Alex Smith had problems picking up the offense as well. Just saying, don't kill the rookie when he's never had to learn a pro offense before and his college system didn't prep him at all for this.

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[quote=MTK;1235841]Alex Smith had problems picking up the offense as well. Just saying, don't kill the rookie when he's never had to learn a pro offense before and his college system didn't prep him at all for this.[/quote]

That and they let him come out of college with sloppy footwork and other fundamental issues. It is going to take time to unlearn years of bad habits.

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[quote=MTK;1235841]Alex Smith had problems picking up the offense as well. Just saying, don't kill the rookie when he's never had to learn a pro offense before and his college system didn't prep him at all for this.[/quote]

As a backup, Haskins only job has been to learn the playbook. There's no excuse to be as clueless as he is 6 months in. APs comments would seem to indicate Haskins never really bothered. From what Sheehan has said, Haskin is the kind of guy that will put forth effort if he's "the guy" but completely not interested and disengaged if he's not. If he had been putting in the work from Day 1, perhaps he would be more prepared to be the starter.

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Question: will the Redskins use their top draft pick on a QB in 2020, if Haskins makes no progress this season?

Usually drafted QB get up to two seasons to prove themselves. Will he have that time or will the get a new QB draftee and either: have a QB competition or just dump Haskins for what they can get?


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[quote=Warthog;1235852]Question: will the Redskins use their top draft pick on a QB in 2020, if Haskins makes no progress this season?

Usually drafted QB get up to two seasons to prove themselves. Will he have that time or will the get a new QB draftee and either: have a QB competition or just dump Haskins for what they can get?


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I think their plan all along was to sit Haskins this year. I really don't think they care about him playing this year. They knew coming in he was going to be a project.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1235848]As a backup, Haskins only job has been to learn the playbook. There's no excuse to be as clueless as he is 6 months in. APs comments would seem to indicate Haskins never really bothered. From what Sheehan has said, Haskin is the kind of guy that will put forth effort if he's "the guy" but completely not interested and disengaged if he's not. If he had been putting in the work from Day 1, perhaps he would be more prepared to be the starter.[/quote]

As a starter it was Smith's job to learn it too and he struggled as we saw. There's a lot more to what he's trying to learn than just memorizing plays.

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[quote=MTK;1235860]As a starter it was Smith's job to learn it too and he struggled as we saw. There's a lot more to what he's trying to learn than just memorizing plays.[/quote]

I do agree that its not fair to compare a seasoned veteran to a rookie when it comes to learning the playbook. The problem is that Haskins supposedly was not putting forth the effort to try. I will root for a player who is trying and struggling. I won't root for one who is lazy, entitled, and not putting in the work. Supposedly Haskins is finally starting to put in the work, but he would be much farther along if he had been doing this from day one.

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[quote=Warthog;1235852]Question: will the Redskins use their top draft pick on a QB in 2020, if Haskins makes no progress this season?

Usually drafted QB get up to two seasons to prove themselves. Will he have that time or will the get a new QB draftee and either: have a QB competition or just dump Haskins for what they can get?


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I think it depends on where we draft and who is available. Between Chase Young and the QBs, we are bound to have the option to select a "cant-miss" franchise player or have multiple offers to trade down.

As much as I am critical of Haskins, I do hope he gets on the field this year and shows us SOMETHING so that we have more options/leverage next year.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1235848]As a backup, Haskins only job has been to learn the playbook. There's no excuse to be as clueless as he is 6 months in. [B]APs comments would seem to indicate Haskins never really bothered[/B]. From what Sheehan has said, Haskin is the kind of guy that will put forth effort if he's "the guy" but completely not interested and disengaged if he's not. If he had been putting in the work from Day 1, perhaps he would be more prepared to be the starter.[/quote]

Ive read this from several people but what AP comments are we talking about?

NFL Network's Mike Garafolo's reporting that AP said Haskins doesnt know the playbook have been dismissed as not true by AP.

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“After the game, I am told that he mentioned to Dwayne Haskins, ‘Get your nose in the playbook and learn these plays. Everyone thinks you don’t know them. You’re proving them right. It is time to study the playbook. Know these things inside, outside, frontwards, backwards, and everything you can,’” Garofolo said. “If Adrian Peterson is telling you this, Dwayne Haskins, it’s time man. It’s time.”

There are a couple of people who are disputing Garofolo’s report, and they are pretty familiar with the story. That story reached both Peterson and Haskins on Twitter, and both players denied that Peterson said those things to Haskins. Peterson requested that Garofolo not report any words that the running back doesn’t say himself and reaffirmed his believe in Haskins.

“If you didn’t hear something direct from me, please don’t attribute it to me,” Peterson tweeted. “I believe in Dwayne and his potential. With more time, support & commitment, he can grown like any other rookie player.”

[url]https://247sports.com/Article/Dwayne-Haskins-Adrian-Peterson-have-beef-with-NFL-Network-report-137611307/[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1235860]As a starter it was Smith's job to learn it too and he struggled as we saw. There's a lot more to what he's trying to learn than just memorizing plays.[/QUOTE]Not only that but the learning comes through reps on the field as well and instead of pushing Haskins from the start Gruden pushed for his guy to get equal reps until he had to admit he wasn't physically able, then JG split reps with a vet who has been in many systems and Haskins. It is not all JGs fault, Haskins bears his part but don't make it all on DH by any means.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1235861]I do agree that its not fair to compare a seasoned veteran to a rookie when it comes to learning the playbook. The problem is that Haskins [B]supposedly[/B] was not putting forth the effort to try. I will root for a player who is trying and struggling. I won't root for one who is lazy, entitled, and not putting in the work. Supposedly Haskins is finally starting to put in the work, but he would be much farther along if he had been doing this from day one.[/quote]

Do you really want to determine your support for Haskins based on the bold part?

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[quote=SunnySide;1235863]Ive read this from several people but what AP comments are we talking about?

NFL Network's Mike Garafolo's reporting that AP said Haskins doesnt know the playbook have been dismissed as not true by AP.

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“After the game, I am told that he mentioned to Dwayne Haskins, ‘Get your nose in the playbook and learn these plays. Everyone thinks you don’t know them. You’re proving them right. It is time to study the playbook. Know these things inside, outside, frontwards, backwards, and everything you can,’” Garofolo said. “If Adrian Peterson is telling you this, Dwayne Haskins, it’s time man. It’s time.”

There are a couple of people who are disputing Garofolo’s report, and they are pretty familiar with the story. That story reached both Peterson and Haskins on Twitter, and both players denied that Peterson said those things to Haskins. Peterson requested that Garofolo not report any words that the running back doesn’t say himself and reaffirmed his believe in Haskins.



[url]https://247sports.com/Article/Dwayne-Haskins-Adrian-Peterson-have-beef-with-NFL-Network-report-137611307/[/url][/quote]

Let's break down what AP actually said:

“If you didn’t hear something direct from me, please don’t attribute it to me,”

That's not a denial. AP did not dispute that the conversation happened. The fact that he didn't deny it would indicate that the conversation DID in fact happen and that AP DID say what Garafolo reported him as saying.

“I believe in Dwayne and his potential. With more time, support & commitment, he can grown like any other rookie player.”

According to Peterson, Haskins needs time, support, and COMMITTMENT to reach that potential. The very fact that he's saying this confirms that Haskins has not been showing the commitment he needs to show. And the fact that he says he can grow "just like any other rookie player" is such non-statement.

The whole thing is damning with faint praise. AP is a leader and a winner. The fact that he even had to have this conversation with Haskins is incredibly troubling.

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[quote=GridIron26;1235866]Do you really want to determine your support for Haskins based on the bold part?[/quote]

My mistake - I shouldn't have used the word supposedly as that indicates i'm not 100 percent sure in my statement that he has not put in the work. All reports are that he hasn't and the evidence that I've seen with my own eyes on the sidelines and in the games confirms it.

Haskins does not deserve support simply for being on the team and more than Bruce Allen does.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1235872]Let's break down what AP actually said:

“If you didn’t hear something direct from me, please don’t attribute it to me,”

That's not a denial. AP did not dispute that the conversation happened. The fact that he didn't deny it would indicate that the conversation DID in fact happen and that AP DID say what Garafolo reported him as saying.

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I heard that interpretation floated around as well .. that AP didnt deny it so its true. I think thats a stretch imo, that AP wasnt blasting the message as being false, just blasting the reporting as second hand.

My gut says he is not Tom Brady but there is nothing to indicate he is Johnny Manziel or Paxton Lynch either. Im holding off on making absolute decisions on him until there is enough credible evidence out there to logically and soundly reach a decision.

2 emergency appearances and Ap denying he said he doesnt know the playbook doesnt come close to the level of information for anyone to make an objective decision. At least imo.

I get it. If I had to guess right now if the kid will be in the league 6 years from now, Id honestly probably say no but thats just me going off gut. Now if he was with a normal organization, then my gut would be "yes" he will be in the league for more than 6 years.

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"all reports are ..." = this is the bone im picking. the only reports are from Garofolo, and AP denied them. We can argue of interpretation of his denial and symantics but it was a denial.

Sheehan has said hes not the "first one in,last one out" but he is active, engaged, likeable and coachable.

Right now all we have are our assumptions and gut opinions.

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All this talk and I'm just sitting here like "why do we need two Haskins threads?"

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I can’t imagine a worse set of circumstances for a rookie QB to get thrown into.

Ashburn is a thresher.....I thought Washington fans would know better then any how screwed up this situation was....Josh Rosen had in waaaaayyyyyy better and his situation was terrible.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1235872]Let's break down what AP actually said:

“If you didn’t hear something direct from me, please don’t attribute it to me,”

That's not a denial. AP did not dispute that the conversation happened. The fact that he didn't deny it would indicate that the conversation DID in fact happen and that AP DID say what Garafolo reported him as saying.

“I believe in Dwayne and his potential. With more time, support & commitment, he can grown like any other rookie player.”

According to Peterson, Haskins needs time, support, [B]and COMMITTMENT to reach that potential[/B]. The very fact that he's saying this confirms that Haskins has not been showing the commitment he needs to show. And the fact that he says he can grow "just like any other rookie player" is such non-statement.

The whole thing is damning with faint praise. AP is a leader and a winner. The fact that he even had to have this conversation with Haskins is incredibly troubling.[/quote]

The reference to commitment here could be a reference to the team committing to him as a starter, not Haskins' commitment. I think there's too much uncertainty here to make this into a real story. The only people who know what was said are AP and DH.