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[quote=AnonEmouse;1243180][B]I like the logic of signing Hooper or Henry if available and drafting a blocking TE from a run based college, on the basis you get a blocking TE who might turn into a good receiver. [/B]

Curious though, we don't see many projects like Gates any more; trying out non-football athletes. Are NFL teams abandoning that kind of thing now?[/quote]

I like your plan. We could make a trade for a TE, too. I also think that Sprinkle has room to improve, both as a blocker and a receiver. I choose to believe that the Skins will find ways to greatly improve the TE room.

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The Titans have 4 solid TE’s on their roster. I would enquire about a trade to get Delaney Walker (currently on IR) when healthy he’s a beast. 6’0 240lbs.

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I want a 3 down TE and I'd prefer Hooper. But I'd gladly take using our 2nd or 3rd pick on one too.

I believe Turner already said TE will be big part of the offense.

I think Sprinkle is definitely good enough to stick on the roster as a 3rd TE. So we need 2 more. Don't really care about how we getting them as long as one of them is a legit 3 down player.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1243208]The Titans have 4 solid TE’s on their roster. I would enquire about a trade to get Delaney Walker (currently on IR) when healthy he’s a beast. 6’0 240lbs.[/QUOTE]


He’s going to be 35 in August



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[quote=MTK;1243216]He’s going to be 35 in August



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Can still play, would be good for a 1 year veteran mentorship to the young guys.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1243208]The Titans have 4 solid TE’s on their roster. I would enquire about a trade to get Delaney Walker (currently on IR) when healthy he’s a beast. 6’0 240lbs.[/quote]

No.

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We need some TE FA help. This offense can’t move forward without it. Get the best FA TE (Hooper), Draft TE this year with our third round pick and keep Sprinkles to see if he can be coached up,


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For those who say there are no TE prospects this year:

Cole Kmet, Thad Moss, Hunter Bryant, Jared Pinkney, Adam Trautman, Harrison Bryant... this TE class is sneaky good.

Remember Kittle was a 5th rounder.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1243217]Can still play, would be good for a 1 year veteran mentorship to the young guys.[/QUOTE]


Also coming off two injury plagued seasons, I’d pass


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Colt McCoy to Jaguars?

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[quote=los panda;1243379]Colt McCoy to Jaguars?

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😂

Ultimate JayGruden Catch22, he started Colt against the Pats which was a dog shit performance. His love for Colt got him fired.

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Maybe he can get them to trade for Trey Quinn and Monte Nicholson

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It's still early in the offseason but it seems like Falcons aren't making Hooper their priority. So it's looking like we might have a good opportunity to sign him.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001098424/article/falcons-trudging-along-in-austin-hooper-negotiations[/url]

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[url]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/redskins-reuben-foster-regaining-feeling-foot[/url]

Washington Redskins' Reuben Foster finally regaining feeling in foot after major leg injury last year

So this is big news...while the injury of multiple ligaments within the knee torn was understood, the nerve damage was an unknown. This is a major fuckin problem.

So we need to prepare again not to have Foster or at least have strong option to step in. Per Keim, while MLB makes sense, under Rivera...he may demand more from the MLB position and weakside could be more of a fit.

So put down MLB as a massive need going into the offseason.

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Two articles on NFL.com I read:

Keenum saying his future likely doesn't lie in DC (not a surprise in itself), but also praised Haskins for the strides he took at the end of the season. Wonder if nobody comes to sign Keenum in a hurry, if he'd be willing to back up Haskins next year? I personally don't put much weight at all on our losses being QB driven, and his stats while not being a full 16 games, would project to a full season as pretty good. Better fall back than Colt certainly.

NFC unsung heroes; ours is Dunbar. Didn't realise how good he was, given the oppo QB rating was very low. then again, they threw at Norman and Nicholson all day, so that factors in. Still its great for a UDFA to get that kind of praise. Lets hope we can find more diamonds in the rough like him.

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[quote=GridIron26;1243398]It's still early in the offseason but it seems like Falcons aren't making Hooper their priority. So it's looking like we might have a good opportunity to sign him.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001098424/article/falcons-trudging-along-in-austin-hooper-negotiations[/url][/quote]

There will be plenty of competition for Hooper and he may cost $$$$$.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1243413]Two articles on NFL.com I read:

Keenum saying his future likely doesn't lie in DC (not a surprise in itself), but also praised Haskins for the strides he took at the end of the season. Wonder if nobody comes to sign Keenum in a hurry, if he'd be willing to back up Haskins next year? I personally don't put much weight at all on our losses being QB driven, and his stats while not being a full 16 games, would project to a full season as pretty good. Better fall back than Colt certainly.

NFC unsung heroes; ours is Dunbar. Didn't realise how good he was, given the oppo QB rating was very low. then again, they threw at Norman and Nicholson all day, so that factors in. Still its great for a UDFA to get that kind of praise. Lets hope we can find more diamonds in the rough like him.[/quote]

That's why I laugh at those people who don't think Dunbar is #1 CB - he has blossomed into a really good CB. If I remember right, we have to give Gruden credit for this, he was the one who asked Dunbar to switch from WR to CB when he tried out for the first time. Also, don't forget, he did all that with our so-called coaches who couldn't coach to save their jobs. Imagine what Dunbar can do with coaches who will maximize players' strengths.

I wouldn't mind if we bring Keenum back, I would be confident with Keenum coming in and help Redskins win some games if anything happens to Haskins.


[quote=Irrefutable;1243416]There will be plenty of competition for Hooper and he may cost $$$$$.[/quote]

For sure. I'm still not 100% on Hooper but he might be the only best available TE. I would be surprised if Chargers didn't resign Henry and I don't think Ebron is worth a lot of money.

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Q had the 2nd best coverage grade in the NFL only guy ahead was Sherman.

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I trust Kyle Smith to make the best approach to TE. I think Hooper will cost some serious $$, but we wasted tens of millions last year on TE, for players who didn’t even play in a single game. We need an elite receiver TE to help Haskins and a good blocking TE to help Guice/Love.


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This kid played at the HS across the street from my house, I've followed him and has been successful wherever he's played and did great at the Senior Bowl. I would draft him in the lower rounds as a backup, was Garner Minshew's backup at Wash. State then became the starter.

[url]https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2020/01/26/anthony-gordon-stole-the-show-at-the-senior-bowl-should-bears-be-interested/[/url]

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I heard that Devin Funchness May revert your his natural TE position; he is 6’4” 236 lbs. I wouldn’t mind seeing him add a little bulk and come on board - he and RR have a good relationship and he’s pretty tough.


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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1243596]This kid played at the HS across the street from my house, I've followed him and has been successful wherever he's played and did great at the Senior Bowl. I would draft him in the lower rounds as a backup, was Garner Minshew's backup at Wash. State then became the starter.

[url]https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2020/01/26/anthony-gordon-stole-the-show-at-the-senior-bowl-should-bears-be-interested/[/url][/quote]

This TE did very well in the Senior Bowl so I wonder if he will be available to the Redskins by the third round. I think the Redskins will be targeting a WR in the third round (very deep WR class this draft) to compete with Harmon for the WR #2 spot OR the best OT or C available. Of course, Kyle Smith has been able to get starters or even elite starters (McLaurin and Dunbar) from the lower draft levels. I mean he's got starters from the UDFA picks. I mean most teams are just happy to get a Special Teams player out from their UDFA picks in a year. It's just very rare to get starters and especially ROOKIE starters from the UDFA.

So I think Kyle Smith will draft one TE from the draft. But our starter is going to come from FA. A very good TE like Hooper is going to be very expensive and we'll be competing to get him against other teams. He'll be a top-paid TE, just like Scherff may be the highest paid OG if we keep him.

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[quote=Warthog;1243615]This TE did very well in the Senior Bowl so I wonder if he will be available to the Redskins by the third round. I think the Redskins will be targeting a WR in the third round (very deep WR class this draft) to compete with Harmon for the WR #2 spot OR the best OT or C available. Of course, Kyle Smith has been able to get starters or even elite starters (McLaurin and Dunbar) from the lower draft levels. I mean he's got starters from the UDFA picks. I mean most teams are just happy to get a Special Teams player out from their UDFA picks in a year. It's just very rare to get starters and especially ROOKIE starters from the UDFA.

So I think Kyle Smith will draft one TE from the draft. B[B]ut our starter is going to come from FA. A very good TE like Hooper is going t[/B]o be very expensive and we'll be competing to get him against other teams. He'll be a top-paid TE, just like Scherff may be the highest paid OG if we keep him.[/quote]


Starter from FA? The list of top 100 TEs is very thin.

[url]https://establishtherun.com/evan-silvas-top-100-nfl-free-agents/[/url]

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Byron Jones should be #1 on our list followed by Hooper.

Jones is a legit shut down Corner and with Dunbar on the other side we would have one of the best duo's in the league at arguably the most valuable position on defense

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1243208]The Titans have 4 solid TE’s on their roster. I would enquire about a trade to get Delaney Walker (currently on IR) when healthy he’s a beast. 6’0 240lbs.[/quote]

Walker and Vernon Davis are the same age, in fact they were both drafted by the 49ers in the same year. Why trade for an old player that won't be around much longer?

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[quote=Warthog;1243615] I think the Redskins will be targeting a WR in the third round (very deep WR class this draft) to compete with Harmon for the WR #2 spot OR the best OT or C available. [/quote]

I noticed you and few other people want Redskins to find a #2 WR to compete or replace (few people said that, not you) Harmon. To be honest, I don't really understand this. Yes, we should always seek to improve every position whenever we have a chance, either through free agency and draft. However, some people seems to think that Harmon haven't done enough to show that he is #2 WR. Granted, he did not light it up like McLaurin did but McLaurin is an outlier and I believe Harmon showed enough to be #2 WR this year. If we have an opportunity to draft a WR or sign a WR on prove-it deal to compete, go for it but I think we should use our top picks for other priorities such as Oline, TE, CB (if we don't sign a #2 CB through FA), LB and FS.

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[quote=GridIron26;1243625]I noticed you and few other people want Redskins to find a #2 WR to compete or replace (few people said that, not you) Harmon. To be honest, I don't really understand this. Yes, we should always seek to improve every position whenever we have a chance, either through free agency and draft. However, some people seems to think that Harmon haven't done enough to show that he is #2 WR. Granted, he did not light it up like McLaurin did but McLaurin is an outlier and I believe Harmon showed enough to be #2 WR this year. If we have an opportunity to draft a WR or sign a WR on prove-it deal to compete, go for it but I think we should use our top picks for other priorities such as Oline, TE, CB (if we don't sign a #2 CB through FA), LB and FS.[/quote]

Harmon hasn't shown the consistency to separate with his lack of speed even when he runs good routes. He is still learning and I really like him...BUT...you really should try to look to improve with a more effective weapon. Im 100% do not like the Current FA options. Emanuel Sanders is the only one where I would at least think about on a Short term, big money deal, because he can do everything.

I think now the most interesting Position going into the offseason will be the Linebackers in the 4-3 especially now with Ruben Foster being a YUUUGE question mark. Will we tap free agency with a Vet? Does Ron like Cole and Anderson potential? Can SDH possibly step into MLB and play well? When can R. Foster even get on the field...is he really a MLB Ron wants?

Linebackers are blowing my mind...its a puzzle which could make/break this defense potential. Linebackers become more important in a 4-3

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1243620]Byron Jones should be #1 on our list followed by Hooper.

Jones is a legit shut down Corner and with Dunbar on the other side we would have one of the best duo's in the league at arguably the most valuable position on defense[/quote]

He’s going to cost $$$. I rather look at Kendall Fuller and move Moreland out of the slot.

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Fuller isn't very good, has had 1 good year

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Kendall Fuller will be cheap and will be worth it. They changed his position after the trade and he went downhill. Bring him back here and to CB and his mojo will return.

Harmon may be our #2 WR for the long haul but he’s not there yet. The #2 WR’s got to be as much of a threat as McLaurin, so the defenses just don’t just load up on him (McLaurin). I give us a 50% chance of drafting a WR #2 with our third round pick. The WR class in this 2020 draft is very deep. It’s too bad we don’t have a second round pick but with a third rounder we can still get a strong rookie to challenge Harmon. Steve Sims is a lock for the slot WR.

So I think the team will either go for a FA at WR #2 or a high draft pick. It’s either or. I think the big money in FA will be spent on TE because we have nothing there now. If the team can’t get a good FA or draft pick to compete with Harmon, he’s still decent and may improve this season. But at TE we need an instant and immediate upgrade, which we can only do in FA. The TE FA options are thin. Henry or Hooper will be very expensive but absolutely needed. Then draft a low pick at TE and hope he can grow as our second TE.

The other big $$ in FA will be spent on the OL. The only decent player who is locked into a contract this season on the OL is Martin. Scherff, Trent Williams, Flowers could all go elsewhere. Moses had a terrible season in terms of his play and many highly destructive penalties. He needs to be replaced. So, one way or the other the Redskins are going to have to spend money on the OL. We don’t have enough draft picks to fix the many OL holes. We’ll be lucky to get one or two starters from the draft /UDFA but you can’t really count on that. Haskins needs a steady OL to succeed. That can only come by either paying Flowers, Scherff and TW or other OL FA.


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[quote=Chico23231;1243626]Harmon hasn't shown the consistency to separate with his lack of speed even when he runs good routes. He is still learning and I really like him...BUT...you really should try to look to improve with a more effective weapon. Im 100% do not like the Current FA options. Emanuel Sanders is the only one where I would at least think about on a Short term, big money deal, because he can do everything.

I think now the most interesting Position going into the offseason will be the Linebackers in the 4-3 especially now with Ruben Foster being a YUUUGE question mark. Will we tap free agency with a Vet? Does Ron like Cole and Anderson potential? Can SDH possibly step into MLB and play well? When can R. Foster even get on the field...is he really a MLB Ron wants?

Linebackers are blowing my mind...its a puzzle which could make/break this defense potential. Linebackers become more important in a 4-3[/quote]

Maybe I didn't see what you and few others saw.. I would be fine if we start the season with Harmon as #2.

Agree about the LB part, it will be interesting to see what Redskins do.

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[quote=GridIron26;1243650]Maybe I didn't see what you and few others saw.. I would be fine if we start the season with Harmon as #2.

Agree about the LB part, it will be interesting to see what Redskins do.[/quote]

When I look at receivers group I see we need improvement, but like our prospects. I would like to add WR in the draft.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1243647]Fuller isn't very good, has had 1 good year[/quote]

Yeah...he's kinda fallen off. I don't know if Jones is a shutdown...I like him a solid starting CB, but I wouldn't go crazy money for him.

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[quote=Chico23231;1243652]Yeah...he's kinda fallen off. I don't know if Jones is a shutdown...I like him a solid starting CB, but I wouldn't go crazy money for him.[/quote]

I wonder what Rivera thinks of James Bradberry at CB? Had him in Carolina.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1243643]He’s going to cost $$$. I rather look at Kendall Fuller and move Moreland out of the slot.[/quote]

still going to need another body or two at corner. moreau sucks, norman sucks worse and dunbar is injury prone. you always have a couple guys on your team that are overpaid and maybe you overpay jones cause we're desperate.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1243647]Fuller isn't very good, has had 1 good year[/quote]

The one season he actually played slot like he should he played outstanding, then he went to KC and they changed his position.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1243738]The one season he actually played slot like he should he played outstanding, then he went to KC and they changed his position.[/quote]

That's right. He played great as a slot corner for us, IMO. I'd love to have him back. I think he could lock down that position for us. Of course, the $$$ need to be right.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1243741]That's right. He played great as a slot corner for us, IMO. I'd love to have him back. I think he could lock down that position for us. Of course, the $$$ need to be right.[/QUOTE]



I don’t think Fuller will be that much $$. That’s why he might be a bargain. He’s only had ONE really good year. The Chiefs won’t be able to keep all their FA after getting this far into the playoffs. Fuller might be worth the risk if he’s not expensive.


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[quote=Number44;1243704]I wonder what Rivera thinks of James Bradberry at CB? Had him in Carolina.[/quote]

I’ve heard he’s pretty average guy. I wouldn’t pay him some big contract...Dunbar is a much better CB