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"We have four of them and [B]one of them fortunately has the antibodies [/B]so that kind of helps us a little bit," the coach said. "We try to keep him away from everybody else as much as possible and let them go about their business."

The team's four quarterbacks are Dwayne Haskins, Kyle Allen, Alex Smith and practice squader Steven Montez.

Rivera's comments came via the Washington Football Talk podcast, and asked directly which QB tested positive for the antibodies, the coach wouldn't budge.

"I'm not allowed to say. One of our guys does."

Ideally none of this will matter for Washington this season and the team will get through the remainder of the season without a positive COVID test. If that changes, however, at least Washington will have a player at QB that's familiar with the offensive system.
[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/ron-rivera-reveals-one-washington-qb-has-covid-19-antibodies[/url]

I took it as Ron saying its a good thing that one of them has it bc if there is an outbreak, at least you will have 1 QB who might not get it.

I do not understand the "try to keep him away" part but I assume its an abundance of caution bc there is still a lot of unknowns with COVID because while he is testing negative ... you just dont know. Just me guessing.

By deduction .. it appears to be Steven Montez.

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Antibodies just means exposure. If you have a high enough count then you can reduce the virus to insignificant levels. I don’t know his count but as Okie pointed out he is on the field so he must be cleared

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[quote=davy;1261619]I said early last year that Haskins has none of the qualities I would look for in a QB. I never understood what people saw in him. I'll be surprised if he ever starts another game anywhere.[/quote]

Agree.
He looked slow and out of shape at the combine. He did not look like an athlete.
Looked like he should be driving an icecream truck.
According to heavy.com Haskins ran among the slowest 40 time for a QB in NFL history.
[URL="https://heavy.com/sports/2019/09/dwayne-haskins-40-yard-dash-time/"]https://heavy.com/sports/2019/09/dwayne-haskins-40-yard-dash-time/[/URL]


[URL="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4DpG0ZMLMp8"]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4DpG0ZMLMp8[/URL]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1261688]They asked Ron about that and he said "He knows the system and he's been cleared"[/quote]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1261660]I don’t if this might have something to do with the QB change:

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/ron-rivera-reveals-one-washington-qb-has-covid-19-antibodies[/url][/quote]

That's anti-bodies, not a positive covid test . . . means he had it before and has gotten over it, so that would not be part of this decision.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1261663]He wouldn't have been on the field with the guys today[/quote]

Antibodies means he's had the virus at some point, not that he has it. If he passed a C19 swab test he isn't contagious, and if he caught it during the offseason away from the team he never put it at risk. More so, if he never knew he had it then it's not a reason in itself to treat him any differently. I don't care which of them has had it, I'm concerned if any of them get it before the seasons over.

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I'm interested to see how it goes. Allen is nothing special and the team overall needs to play better. Coaches need to coach and adjust better and make better decisions of you're playing to "win", too. Haskins ... I dunno I got fed up when he wasn't benched at halftime in Cleveland... And last week, too. But I guess let em play 4 games and if he's not progressing - bench'em.

Best of luck to us this week.

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Shocked more about Smith backing up Allen than Allen starting. Honestly this is the best thing for Haskins. If anything it inspires him and if the other two look just as bad than he can have the rest of the year to try n salvage his job without worrying about it. Im super hopeful that Smith gets in there and plays well. What a great story. Allens QBR was a 38 last year. Lol. Which is 8 points better than Haskins league low 30.
Now we might get some sort of measuring stick on DH though. If Allen or Smith plays well than we know it isn’t all the rest of the offense. Especially Allen. If either guy looks real good for any period of weeks than Haskins days are numbered.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1261591]"There must be something behind the scenes going on. During the week and preparation. A lack of leadership and commitment. Deeper than just the play"



Dan Orlovsky[/QUOTE]



Dan Orlovsky is sort of an idiot. I always thought that not just because of this comment. I mean it all boils down to play and Haskins has been the worst in the league. Of course it is about play.
I mean his attitude and commitment might mean something but idc what you do in practice. You keep shitting the bed in games. your done.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1261687]Why is Alex Smith the number 2?



There is no way in hell I want him on the field[/QUOTE]



Why? His leg is no more liable to break again than anyone elses. It would absolutely horrendous if he suffered another bad injury but he just busted his ass for months and months and months. If he wants to get back out there than im all about it. All that work - gotta be a payoff.

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I see Kyle Allen going 4-2 against our next 6 opponentswith at least 3 division wins.

I wonder how good the Rams really are. Three of their wins are against our division

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1261628]I can't believe Alex Smith could see action Sunday (If Allen goes down) who would have ever thought it??[/QUOTE]



I did pose the question about what was going on with him a couple days ago so ill say it crossed my mind... [emoji848]

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[QUOTE=jamf;1261709][url=https://ibb.co/syM4CSV][img]https://i.ibb.co/pJ9TQDL/IMG-0888.jpg[/img][/url][/QUOTE]



HAHAHAHAHA. That’s awesome.

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[quote=punch it in;1261705]Why? His leg is no more liable to break again than anyone elses. It would absolutely horrendous if he suffered another bad injury but he just busted his ass for months and months and months. If he wants to get back out there than im all about it. All that work - gotta be a payoff.[/quote]Agreed. It's his body and his career. He has decided to play. The Washington Football Team should honor that decision if necessary.

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The more I see and hear what Rivera and Turner are saying, the more I believe this is not about the evaluation of Haskins and the team anymore. I think that process is over. They are looking at this division, and think they might be able to win it...but not with Haskins at the helm. They know the rest of the team probably feels that way as well. If they don't make this move, they will most definitely lose the other 52.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1261706]I see Kyle Allen going 4-2 against our next 6 opponentswith at least 3 division wins.

I wonder how good the Rams really are. Three of their wins are against our division

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If they beat LA Sunday, I could see them starting a small streak for sure

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Also, it sounds like this was his plan all along if Haskins didn't show progress. He said he formulated this plan during the off season. I mean if they were three games out of first place and the team was not competitive in any of their contests, he probably rolls with Haskins. But they have been competitive, and they do have a chance to make some noise if they can get better QB play. So I have zero problems with him making this decision at this point, considering what the division looks like. He owes it to the team to see what they can do.

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[quote=jamf;1261709][url=https://ibb.co/syM4CSV][img]https://i.ibb.co/pJ9TQDL/IMG-0888.jpg[/img][/url][/quote]

Nailed it

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1261713]If they beat LA Sunday, I could see them starting a small streak for sure[/QUOTE]


If they even keep the game competitive and lose, I’ll feel perfectly fine with Haskins riding the bench for the rest of the season


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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1261713]If they beat LA Sunday, I could see them starting a small streak for sure[/QUOTE]Even if they lose to the rams, the next 5 games after that are certainly winnable.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1261714]Also, it sounds like this was his plan all along if Haskins didn't show progress. He said he formulated this plan during the off season. I mean if they were three games out of first place and the team was not competitive in any of their contests, he probably rolls with Haskins. But they have been competitive, and they do have a chance to make some noise if they can get better QB play. So I have zero problems with him making this decision at this point, considering what the division looks like. He owes it to the team to see what they can do.[/quote]

He also said the sideline Sunday had a certain body language , meaning they knew Haskins wouldn't get it done, and today Haskins at practice was folded arms just pouting, maybe he's not a leader right now?

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Same ole shit...

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[quote=Chico23231;1261719]Same ole shit...[/quote]

I actually feel it's different, I think Ron really is calling the shots. This is a power move by him and he's really convinced KA is ready

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We will see. I don't think Allen is the answer but could be a serviceable backup long term . Smith- it is his choice, but he is not making a wise decision, but I get it from his point of view is not in the long term plans We will draft a QB in 2021. I don't see us winning more than 4 games this season. We don't have enough weapons and our O-line is suspect and a few defensive players forget how to tackle. Drew Lock in the second round would have a better pick for us than Haskins - could have taken Sweat in the 1'st or some one else...

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ejzruf0VcAA8K8g?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

The Athletic

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Really hate that these little leaks are coming out. What's done is done no need to embarrass the guy publically. It's the same old smear tactic we've seen from this franchise time and time again.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1261734][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ejzruf0VcAA8K8g?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

The Athletic[/QUOTE]


Michael Jordan he is not lol. Alex is hungry and has always wanted to play again.


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[QUOTE=MTK;1261735]Really hate that these little leaks are coming out. What's done is done no need to embarrass the guy publically. It's the same old smear tactic we've seen from this franchise time and time again.[/QUOTE]Yeah hate the leaks too... so much for the culture change...

I'm also really having a hard time swallowing this whole "frustrated sideline" narrative... wasn't the sideline frustrated by the coach not trying to win games ?

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Below are Kyle Allen's 2019 highlights:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdy59oeQhzg&t=191s[/url]

He seems to read defenses well and gets rid of the ball quickly. Just looks like he has good fundamentals and like the pocket presence. Think he will be an upgrade and I ask everyone to give this kid a real chance. It doesn't matter that he wasn't drafted. Was pretty impressed by these highlights honestly.

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It seems like Scott and RR are very confident in Kyle so we'll see what he can do

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“I’m always ready,” said Allen, who went undrafted in 2018. “If you look at my career so far, I’ve been in the league three years and I’ve started in at least one game every year. I started one my rookie year, the last game of the year. I think I started 12 last year and now this one. For me, it’s just always been a mindset of: be ready, and if it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t. But if it does, at least you’re prepared for it. I always go into every game just ready to go in at any point. … For me, it’s just being ready to go and take advantage of your opportunity when it comes.

“I’m glad that we’re still in the playoff race. I think this is an interesting division this year. It’s been somewhat of a slow start, for I think everyone in the division. So, for us in the middle of the division right now with a chance to win on Sunday and give us a chance to get back on top of it — it’s a great opportunity.”

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1261736]Michael Jordan he is not lol. Alex is hungry and has always wanted to play again.


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I wonder if Alex has a stronger relationship with Haskins or Allen?

If Haskins not working hard or preparing like he should for games...then he needs to sit.

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guess the next big question is who is are long term quarterback then?we know its not smith,is it allen probably not ,haskins no,so where do we go if we can,t get trevor lawernce, maybe justin fields,or trey lance from NDST, not sure where we go next

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[quote=Chico23231;1261743]I wonder if Alex has a stronger relationship with Haskins or Allen?

If Haskins not working hard or preparing like he should for games...then he needs to sit.[/quote]The above article implies Haskins wasn't working as hard as possible. He looks super nonchalant in that recent practice video since his benching. Almost like he doesn't care. Rivera is not the coach that would roll with this. This qb change has me more rejuvenated for this year whether it's successful or not.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1261734][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ejzruf0VcAA8K8g?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

The Athletic[/quote]

I wonder if through high school and college Haskins was just more physically talented than others and was able to succeed on that God-given talent alone. Now that he's in the pros, where everyone has tons of God-given talent, and needs to rely more on coaching to help him and he just doesn't know how to be coached.

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The kid reminds me of Carmelo Anthony.
All the off the field stuff is more important than actually playing the game.

[URL="http://www.haskinsandhaskins.com/"]This was a big red flag for a rookie.[/URL]

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[QUOTE=jamf;1261749]The kid reminds me of Carmelo Anthony.
All the off the field stuff is more important than actually playing the game.

[URL="http://www.haskinsandhaskins.com/"]This was a big red flag for a rookie.[/URL][/QUOTE]


Reminds me of RG3 but at least he balled out for a little while.


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[quote=jamf;1261749]The kid reminds me of Carmelo Anthony.
All the off the field stuff is more important than actually playing the game.

[URL="http://www.haskinsandhaskins.com/"]This was a big red flag for a rookie.[/URL][/quote]

That website is a joke.