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[url]https://twitter.com/janemarielynch/status/1347636235985055744[/url]

No sympathy for Graham. You're either in 100% or you're out, as soon as you dare to speak against the great one you're off the squad.

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[url]https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polices-tepid-response-to-the-capitol-breach-wasnt-an-aberration/[/url]

Preach. Security wasn't strong because the people who make those decisions thought MAGA supporters were their friends. They back the blue, remember?

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[url]https://twitter.com/thenation/status/1347232193341513736[/url]

[quote=MAGA supporter]
“This is not America,” a woman said to a small group, her voice shaking. “They’re shooting at us. They’re supposed to shoot BLM, but they’re shooting the patriots.”
[/quote]

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I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that admitting or even bragging about committing federal crimes on video is generally not a good strategy. These people are just as dumb as Trump.

[url]https://twitter.com/Cleavon_MD/status/1347334743323394048[/url]


Maybe we can get JR in here to verify if this is sound legal advice... LOL

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[quote=NC_Skins;1272722]I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that admitting or even bragging about committing federal crimes on video is generally not a good strategy. These people are just as dumb as Trump.

[url]https://twitter.com/Cleavon_MD/status/1347334743323394048[/url]


Maybe we can get JR in here to verify if this is sound legal advice... LOL[/quote]

[yt]AcU8O5AudTM[/yt]

That's what your clip reminds me of lol.

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[yt]ENlL-Uru-cM[/yt]

Full disclaimer before somebody in here starts spouting about the Hitler comparison: Until Trump convinces his supporters that all Dems need to be sent to concentration camps, no Trump is not Hitler.

With that being said, could you imagine if Hitler took the podium after Night of the Long Knives and condemned the attack? That's what this sounds like.

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[url]https://twitter.com/SunSentinel/status/1347539616023375874[/url]

Now we know Chico was definitely there.

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[quote=mooby;1272727][url]https://twitter.com/SunSentinel/status/1347539616023375874[/url]

Now we know Chico was definitely there.[/quote]

:laughing-

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[quote=chico23231;1272715]on the obstruction of justice charge. Again, he found zero evidence of collusion with russia



this is exactly how people are manipulating from dishonest media and political figures. There was no evidence of collusion by trump, family, administration etc.



Folks it’s easy to see why there are people who believe the election was stolen in a vote by mail scenario.



Mooby, adam schiff lied to the american people for 3 years: Google the transcripts



all the adam schiff transcripts

newly released documents show he knew all along that there was no proof of russia-trump collusion.[/quote]



wrong

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[B][B]trump Officially Kicked Off Twitter[/B][/B]

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-suspends-donald-trumps-account-234321450.html[/url]

Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account


Yahoo News
Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account
David Knowles

Twitter said it issued a “permanent suspension” of Donald Trump’s account on Friday evening in the latest escalation by social media companies against a president they accuse of spreading misinformation and inciting violence.

In a post to the site, Twitter explained its decision to block Trump from sharing posts with his 88.7 million followers, citing the attack on the U.S. Capitol by a mob of pro-Trump supporters.

“After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them, we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence,” the company said. “In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. Our public interest framework exists to enable the public to hear from elected officials and world leaders directly. It is built on a principle that the people have a right to hold power to account in the open.”

“However, we made it clear going back years that these accounts are not above our rules entirely and cannot use Twitter to incite violence, among other things,” the statement continued. “We will continue to be transparent around our policies and their enforcement.”

A day earlier, Facebook suspended Trump’s account on its platform for similar reasons. Initially, Twitter removed a handful of Trump’s tweets that came after the siege on the Capitol. For months it had flagged posts by the president that the site said contained misinformation

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[quote=punch it in;1272732]wrong[/quote]

Another example of how even after all the facts are found, it still doesn’t matter...this is how people are manipulated into believing conspiracy theories such Trump colluded with Russia or an election was stolen from Trump.

It’s easy to see how we got here

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[quote=Chico23231;1272735]Another example of how even after all the facts are found, it still doesn’t matter...this is how people are manipulated into believing conspiracy theories such Trump colluded with Russia or an election was stolen from Trump.

It’s easy to see how we got here[/quote]

It's easy to see how [B]YOU[/B] got there. You keep harping on collusion and ignore the facts that they found russia had meddled with the 2016 election .People went to jail, they were found guilty but like any other trump loyalist you ignore real facts and make up your own.

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Nobody ignores that russia meddled, although it seems to me you like to ignore that the meddling of the 2016 election took place under the Obama administration. The false part of the narrative is that trump colluded. At this point there are false narratives all over the place. But the fact is, and hopefully we can all get on board, is that at this point Biden is president elect, and jan 20th he will become president.

Or people can continue the arguing that has brought us to jan 6th.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272737]Nobody ignores that russia meddled, although it seems to me you like to ignore that the meddling of the 2016 election took place under the Obama administration. The false part of the narrative is that trump colluded. At this point there are false narratives all over the place. But the fact is, and hopefully we can all get on board, is that at this point Biden is president elect, and jan 20th he will become president.

Or people can continue the arguing that has brought us to jan 6th.

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Yet you and chico keep throwing shit out there to see what sticks while asking others to calm down so we can "all get along". BS

:blah:

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1272738]Yet you and chico keep throwing shit out there to see what sticks while asking others to calm down so we can "all get along". BS



:blah:[/QUOTE]Nope. Simply calling a spade a spade.

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[quote=Chico23231;1272715]On the obstruction of justice charge. Again, he found zero evidence of collusion with Russia.[/quote]


Where are you getting this nonsense from? I can tell you definitely didn't read the 400+ pages and just going off Hannity or Trump's rendition of it. Mueller clearly stated they weren't looking for "collusion" and they were looking for a criminal conspiracy. They found plenty of evidence, but not enough to be able to convict a criminal conspiracy. I said from day one that they would probably never get enough evidence to convict on it since it's a hard charge to argue in court. You have to prove both parties were in on the conspiracy and both had to gain.

You may not want to read the 400 pages, but this is enough breakdown to debunk your talking points.

[url]https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/[/url]


If you want to make the point that the Trump campaign didn't criminally conspire with Russia then yes, that is correct (based on what evidence could prove). If you want to make the assertion that the Trump campaign didn't seek out help from them and welcome interference then you are 100% wrong. That is something the Mueller report does clearly show. Me personally, I think a good deal of evidence lies with Paul Manafort who wouldn't cooperate. Sorry, but giving campaign data to a Russian intelligence officer so they could micro-target their disinformation campaign on social media is probably criminal. There again, it's what you can prove in a court of law that ultimately matter.

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Did the Obama administration do a worse job handling election integrity in 2016 than the average administration? Or was it about the same, but it's just way more discussed, researched, etc., by both sides, for the 2016 election?

Because I don't think any of us are arguing that Russia or China or any country with the capability to do so, just started interfering in 2016 (well after reading above, maybe G1 believes that).

Did Trump discuss, manipulate, use, get played, etc. with foreign countries more than any other president ever? It's a possibility. But was the absolute dedication to destroy his presidency why it just seems that way? This is where this site splinters. The democrats in power, imo, were hellbent on destroying Trump since the moment he won the election. And they were going to do whatever it took to do so. Granted, Trump made it so fucking easy, but still.

I don't care what evidence there was, there wasn't enough for collusion or that's what he would have been impeached on in the house, which what the impeachment witch hunt originated from. They couldn't prove it sufficiently enough, so they just moved the goalposts to obstruction. And voted 100% party line, but democrats had the house majority so it passed. And democrats just pretended like there was absolutely no difference between what the original charge was and obstruction, while also simultaneously pretending like he was still guilty of collusion anyways, even though that wasn't what the evidence proved sufficiently. My personal belief is just that democrats wanted to drag the whole process out as long as possible to fog up Trump's 1st term. And they succeeded. The "investigation" took 2+ years. There was no actual goal to remove Trump. That would have just been icing on the cake. In hindsight, that might have been better for Republicans. Then Pence would've been the president.

Hating Trump is so easy it's just easy to ignore everything that happened before him.

All this being said, I can't wait for January 21st. What Trump has done the past 6 or so months is a fucking embarrassment to this country. And makes everyone that argued against him look 100% correct about his whole term. Trump destroyed the republican party. I mean I didn't even care that both GA R Senators lost. Maybe with the democrats having full power for at least 2 years, we can all move on, and have some important elections in 2022 based on actual policies, laws, etc.

And lastly, I can't wait to wake up tomorrow, come on here, and have a 2nd asshole torn for myself.

'Merica

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[quote=NC_Skins;1272741]Where are you getting this nonsense from? I can tell you definitely didn't read the 400+ pages and just going off Hannity or Trump's rendition of it. Mueller clearly stated they weren't looking for "collusion" and they were looking for a criminal conspiracy. They found plenty of evidence, but not enough to be able to convict a criminal conspiracy. I said from day one that they would probably never get enough evidence to convict on it since it's a hard charge to argue in court. You have to prove both parties were in on the conspiracy and both had to gain.

You may not want to read the 400 pages, but this is enough breakdown to debunk your talking points.

[url]https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/[/url]


If you want to make the point that the Trump campaign didn't criminally conspire with Russia then yes, that is correct (based on what evidence could prove). If you want to make the assertion that the Trump campaign didn't seek out help from them and welcome interference then you are 100% wrong. That is something the Mueller report does clearly show. Me personally, I think a good deal of evidence lies with Paul Manafort who wouldn't cooperate. Sorry, but giving campaign data to a Russian intelligence officer so they could micro-target their disinformation campaign on social media is probably criminal. There again, it's what you can prove in a court of law that ultimately matter.[/quote]

My man, first attempt to discredit my statement “as opinion such as”hannity or trumps rendition...no these are the facts: no collusion with Russia was found after thorough, multiple investigations. Period. No talking points, but just the single fact.

Oh my bad I didn’t know the audience I was speaking too, i forgot the Warpath was a legal message board and I shouldn’t be using the term collusion but mueller doc language conspiracy. Collusion is the term media and the general public used during the investigation. So no conspiracy was found...happy?

So you can go all over the internet to pull up “opinions and interpretations”on the mueller findings that seek to validate your biased opinion...just like others that will seek out the same biased writings on “illegal voters rolls in Nevada, vote by mail laws in Pennsylvania and illegal counting of votes in Georgia after observers have gone” about this years “illegitimate elections.”

Continue to confide with others across the internet and social media to validate your view...you all obviously know better than others who did the leg work. Your last paragraph is filled with the weak language based on assumption “probably, I think, etc” which forms a biased opinion.

NC skins I’m not calling you an idiot or dumbass...nothing like that, I’m saying look at how we got here and is it really surprising?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272745]Did the Obama administration do a worse job handling election integrity in 2016 than the average administration? Or was it about the same, but it's just way more discussed, researched, etc., by both sides, for the 2016 election?

Because I don't think any of us are arguing that Russia or China or any country with the capability to do so, just started interfering in 2016 (well after reading above, maybe G1 believes that).

Did Trump discuss, manipulate, use, get played, etc. with foreign countries more than any other president ever? It's a possibility. But was the absolute dedication to destroy his presidency why it just seems that way? This is where this site splinters. The democrats in power, imo, were hellbent on destroying Trump since the moment he won the election. And they were going to do whatever it took to do so. Granted, Trump made it so fucking easy, but still.

I don't care what evidence there was, there wasn't enough for collusion or that's what he would have been impeached on in the house, which what the impeachment witch hunt originated from. They couldn't prove it sufficiently enough, so they just moved the goalposts to obstruction. And voted 100% party line, but democrats had the house majority so it passed. And democrats just pretended like there was absolutely no difference between what the original charge was and obstruction, while also simultaneously pretending like he was still guilty of collusion anyways, even though that wasn't what the evidence proved sufficiently. My personal belief is just that democrats wanted to drag the whole process out as long as possible to fog up Trump's 1st term. And they succeeded. The "investigation" took 2+ years. There was no actual goal to remove Trump. That would have just been icing on the cake. In hindsight, that might have been better for Republicans. Then Pence would've been the president.

Hating Trump is so easy it's just easy to ignore everything that happened before him.

All this being said, I can't wait for January 21st. What Trump has done the past 6 or so months is a fucking embarrassment to this country. And makes everyone that argued against him look 100% correct about his whole term. Trump destroyed the republican party. I mean I didn't even care that both GA R Senators lost. Maybe with the democrats having full power for at least 2 years, we can all move on, and have some important elections in 2022 based on actual policies, laws, etc.

And lastly, I can't wait to wake up tomorrow, come on here, and have a 2nd asshole torn for myself.

'Merica[/quote]

I think the rise of disinformation due to social media makes the integrity more pronounced in 2016. Obama used social media but it still wasn't widely embraced as method of communication by him and his staff. Trump, who always had a social media presence, was the first to really use it effectively and other candidates really followed his foot steps. Since social media isn't regulated and fact check like the media it allowed the spread of disinformation. I read an interesting research paper back in 2017 ( if I can find it I will post it) how a group of individuals in Cyprus started posting fake news stories about Trump and Clinton prior to the 2016 election the goal was to generate revenue they quickly found fake news about Clinton spread much faster and generated more clicks and therefore more dollars than the Trump fake news. Like any good business men they ceased to focus on the inferior product and doubled their efforts on fake news Clinton stories. If a group of twenty somethings trying to make a buck with a small server can spread lies and undermine our election it is easy to see how China and Russia can easily do the same.

For the record I don't think he colluded, he is just a dumb ass and brought the investigation on himself when he openly looked at the camera in a debate on national television and asked Russia to hack and release Clinton emails.

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[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/world-leaders-react-u-capitol-135331190.html[/url]



Yahoo News Video
World leaders react to U.S. Capitol siege
Thu, January 7, 2021, 8:53 AM EST
World leaders raised concerns over the health of American democracy after violent supporters of President Trump breached the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.

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I listen to this radio station 1090 wbal. It is a pretty right leaning station but they cover some interesting local stories. This morning on the Andrew Langer show I was very disappointed in one of the guests they had who has a national radio show. She was saying if she was in Dc on Wednesday she would have broken into Pelosi's office and sat at her desk too. People lost their lives, people are losing their jobs and we can still have people go on and make light of the situation.

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Trump did not collide with Russia. He said hypothetically he would look at any info a foreign country had.

His son meet with them but left after realizing it was fake.

Russia interfered by doing fake Twitter and social media manipulation to feed gas to a fire.

Manafort and Flynn and one other guy did apparently try to leverage their positions within the trump admin with Russia.

Obama learned about Russian and Chinese interference and secretly briefed both parties. He said he was conflicted on telling the public because he didn’t want to interfere or have the appearance of interfering bc the Russian propaganda was to help trump and he didn’t want to seem like the POTUS office was making political attacks on a candidate. If you have a problem with how Obama handled things, I would suggest your bias is clouding your opinion. He briefed both parties but tried to keep it out of public discussion.

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Why are we talking about this? This is just a distraction tactic to take discussion away from what trump has done recently. Much like a tucker Carlson brining up past BLM stuff when people are talking current MAGA storming the capitol.

Anyways ... trump is gone in the 20th. Dems have control as fas as a Manchin or Romney or Mutkowski will let them.

I’m going to enjoy a nice boring sleepy joe presidency. Replace a few Supreme Court justices, take a look at fixing some portions of the tax code that trump used to attack blue states, just normal American politics stuff. The AOCs and Cruz of the world can huff and puff all they want but it’s centrist time!

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1272763]Trump did not collide with Russia. He said hypothetically he would look at any info a foreign country had.



His son meet with them but left after realizing it was fake.



Russia interfered by doing fake Twitter and social media manipulation to feed gas to a fire.



Manafort and Flynn and one other guy did apparently try to leverage their positions within the trump admin with Russia.



Obama learned about Russian and Chinese interference and secretly briefed both parties. He said he was conflicted on telling the public because he didn’t want to interfere or have the appearance of interfering bc the Russian propaganda was to help trump and he didn’t want to seem like the POTUS office was making political attacks on a candidate. If you have a problem with how Obama handled things, I would suggest your bias is clouding your opinion. He briefed both parties but tried to keep it out of public discussion.



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Why are we talking about this? This is just a distraction tactic to take discussion away from what trump has done recently. Much like a tucker Carlson brining up past BLM stuff when people are talking current MAGA storming the capitol.



Anyways ... trump is gone in the 20th. Dems have control as fas as a Manchin or Romney or Mutkowski will let them.



I’m going to enjoy a nice boring sleepy joe presidency. Replace a few Supreme Court justices, take a look at fixing some portions of the tax code that trump used to attack blue states, just normal American politics stuff. The AOCs and Cruz of the world can huff and puff all they want but it’s centrist time![/QUOTE]

I hope you are right about centrist time. There is so much the government can do that could have support but they spend their time bickering about the controversial and in turn the media bickers and we bicker and the politicians feed off the bickering so they bicker some more and the media up plays the bickering more and the country divides and bickers more

We see it on here all the time. A few threads have tried to go for the common ground, they get minimal attention, the bicker threads get maximum attention.



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I hope so to. I imagine the social stuff never goes away. We are just one random police shooting in some random town away from picking the scab and start the bleeding all over again. Will it be tomorrow or next month? Maybe we go 3 months but certainly not a whole year without a Breonna Taylor sequel.

But legislation? Actual politics and not social identity politics? I’m hoping it’s just normal stuff. Sure we will rejoin the Paris accord, mutually reduce the tariffs with China, etc but we won’t pack the Supreme Court or make it open borders etc.

Just wish the AOCs and Gaetz of the world could stop amplifying the polar social distortion.

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Social Distortion is a great term!

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[quote=SunnySide;1272763]Trump did not collide with Russia.[/quote]

OUCH!!!:laughing-

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272766]I hope you are right about centrist time. [/quote]

It's absolutely the time of centrist. It's a 50/50 split in the senate and you aren't going to pass any Democratic legislation that's ultra progress with needing Manchin, Sinema and Kelly's vote. They aren't going to vote to get rid of the filibuster either so yeah. Dems will need to win another 3-4 seats in 2022 if they want to do some real things they want.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1272790]It's absolutely the time of centrist. It's a 50/50 split in the senate and you aren't going to pass any Democratic legislation that's ultra progress with needing Manchin, Sinema and Kelly's vote. They aren't going to vote to get rid of the filibuster either so yeah. Dems will need to win another 3-4 seats in 2022 if they want to do some real things they want.[/QUOTE]Well if it is really the time of the centrist maybe the middle group can split from rep and dem parties and start a 3rd bloc

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1272791]Well if it is really the time of the centrist maybe the middle group can split from rep and dem parties and start a 3rd bloc

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A boy can dream.

Also think they should go to ranked choice voting instead of our current setup.

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[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kucaz0/the_moment_officer_brian_sicknick_is_dragged_into/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3"]This video[/URL] is very hard to tell, but using [URL="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErUxT78XEAEsCS5?format=jpg&name=medium"]this photo[/URL] we can line up the moment where Officer Sicknick is dragged into the crowd and beaten, eventually causing his death. If you line up the people in the first 20ish seconds of the video with the picture, you can see where they dragged Officer Sicknick down the stairs. His death lies at the hands of those responsible for inciting this coup. RIP.

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[url]https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1273473][url]https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240[/url][/quote]

Preach.

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[url]https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1348311925138939905[/url]

Everybody knows the louder you shout the more truth you speak.

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[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/politics/capitol-police-howard-liebengood-dies.html[/url]

Just a rumor right now, but I have friends in LE saying this USCP officer just committed suicide. RIP.

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The more info that comes out on this whole thing... just sickening

At this point I'm so angry, this Trump cancer runs deep

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[quote=MTK;1273623]The more info that comes out on this whole thing... just sickening

At this point I'm so angry, this Trump cancer runs deep[/quote]

100

What a piece of shit Trump is and anyone who backs him.

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[URL="https://www.npr.org/2021/01/11/955548910/ex-capitol-police-chief-rebuffs-claims-national-guard-was-never-called-during-ri"]Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1273658][URL="https://www.npr.org/2021/01/11/955548910/ex-capitol-police-chief-rebuffs-claims-national-guard-was-never-called-during-ri"]Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots[/URL][/quote]

Worried about the optics of having the Guard protecting the Capitol. Yeah, I guess the optics of a bunch of extremists overrunning the Capitol is a better look.

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[url]https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1347909214203760644.html[/url]

This guy did a breakdown of Trump's speech inciting the insurrection (which leaves no doubt in my mind Trump is responsible). He literally tells the crowd he's going to march to the Capitol with them, and then he hops in his limo and goes back to the WH.

[url]https://wtop.com/dc/2021/01/prosecutors-weigh-heavy-hammer-felony-murder-for-rioters-in-capitol-officers-death/[/url]

If prosecutors follow through with this and charge people with felony murder (for those who don't know, felony murder is a charge people get tacked on with when someone dies in the commission of another felony) those people are going to be really upset unless Trump pardons them. Which leads me to my next point, Trump absolutely needs to be removed because no doubt he is probably already considering pardoning anybody charged in connection with this insurrection.

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[URL="https://abcnews.go.com/US/armed-protests-planned-50-state-capitols-fbi-bulletin/story?id=75179771"]Armed protests being planned at all 50 state capitols, FBI bulletin says[/URL]

JFC

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[url]https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/13/nation/it-was-like-looking-evil-capitol-attack-through-eyes-massachusetts-delegation/[/url]

[quote=Boston Globe]
As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressley’s office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.

“[B]Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit[/B],” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant — not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said.
[/quote]

Not gonna overreact but that's a serious question that needs to be answered. Oversight from building maintenance or intentional? I honestly think given how lax security was there might have been some coordination between Trump and people who make decisions about how much security Congress needs.

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[url]https://twitter.com/KristinMinkDC/status/1349259399404126208[/url]

Every time I see a new video from the Capitol, I feel like I shouldn't be surprised. But listen to the woman talking with the bullhorn, she knows her way around and she actually sounds annoyed at the incompetence. "If we're gonna take the building" what do you think happens if you take the Capitol while lawmakers are in session? I think LE is reserving the serious charges for after Trump is out of office so he can't do anything about it then.