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[quote=Chico23231;1300109]G1 rather have mob justice based on his personal political narrative.[/quote]

DA, that's what KR did .People like you let him off .

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[quote=punch it in;1300103]See Kyle purchase an AR-15
See Kyle travel to another city with it.
See Kyle walk into a crowd of people who stood for everything he detested
See Kyle kill two of them
See Kyle claim self defense

See how fucking stupid you sound when you defend him?[/quote]

The entire chain of events leading up to him killing 2 people just blows me away. What parent would drive their kid across state lines with a gun to a place where there is civil unrest? A gun he bought because he thought it looked cool, but he wasn't there looking for trouble? Ok. Have to think this opens up a can of worms for the future. Any idiot with a gun will now feel empowered to show up to a protest to just "help out" and then claim self defense when things get dicey and they decide to start playing Call of Duty for real.

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[quote=MTK;1300522]The entire chain of events leading up to him killing 2 people just blows me away. What parent would drive their kid across state lines with a gun to a place where there is civil unrest? A gun he bought because he thought it looked cool, but he wasn't there looking for trouble? Ok. Have to think this opens up a can of worms for the future. Any idiot with a gun will now feel empowered to show up to a protest to just "help out" and then claim self defense when things get dicey and they decide to start playing Call of Duty for real.[/quote]

My man…the testimony

[url]https://www.insider.com/6-myths-surrounding-the-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-debunked-2021-11[/url]

Kyle Rittenhouse didn't illegally bring a gun across state lines and 5 other myths surrounding the trial debunked

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Dude wasn't mature enough to have his own car and drive himself there but he was man enough to play Rambo with an assault rifle.

Every wannabe Navy Seal, Green Beret, and Force Recon Marine is going to trade in their airsoft rifle for the real thing and find a protest.

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[quote=Chico23231;1300525]My man…the testimony

[url]https://www.insider.com/6-myths-surrounding-the-kyle-rittenhouse-trial-debunked-2021-11[/url]

Kyle Rittenhouse didn't illegally bring a gun across state lines and 5 other myths surrounding the trial debunked[/quote]

I didn't say anything about [I]illegally[/I] coming across state lines. Ok so his Mom didn't drive him there, my simple point was why was he there at all?

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[quote=MTK;1300528]I didn't say anything about [I]illegally[/I] coming across state lines. Ok so his Mom didn't drive him there, my simple point was why was he there at all?[/quote]

Kyle worked there and his dad lived in Kenosha…I think the over state lines is a non issue.

Also, many rioters were their from out of state and arrested:

[url]https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/activists-arrested-in-kenosha-after-filling-up-gas-cans-police/[/url]

I still don’t understand why anybody was rioting? Jacob Blake was armed, in the process of stealing a vehicle with children inside…he was justifiable shot.

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Best to leave the gun play to the cops. If you're showing up to a protest with a gun, chances are high that something dumb is going to happen. Hopefully we can all agree on that.

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[quote=MTK;1300534]Best to leave the gun play to the cops. If you're showing up to a protest with a gun, chances are high that something dumb is going to happen. Hopefully we can all agree on that.[/quote]

You know people are tired of their business being burned down and destroyed for no good reason. They have just as much right to be their protecting their business…it’s not illegal.

Also, how about the folks who attacked him, all convicted violent felons, leave him alone? People do not have the right to riot. It was not a peaceful protest if you are attacking people.

I think people need to look at the facts in the case, because the media continues to repeat falsehoods

I think folks need to understand there are consequences for your actions…especially in a riot. Multiple people had guns around Kyle as well

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I think if you meet the two people Kyle mowed down, one a child sex offender, you wouldn't be all to sad for them.

I get the macro picture but at a micro level the world lost nothing here.

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More than 1 thing can be true at a time.

This was avoidable on my different levels on both sides.

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[quote=Chico23231;1300535]You know people are tired of their business being burned down and destroyed for no good reason. They have just as much right to be their protecting their business…it’s not illegal.

Also, how about the folks who attacked him, all convicted violent felons, leave him alone? People do not have the right to riot. It was not a peaceful protest if you are attacking people.

I think people need to look at the facts in the case, because the media continues to repeat falsehoods

I think folks need to understand there are consequences for your actions…especially in a riot. Multiple people had guns around Kyle as well[/quote]

Come on, what vested interest did a 17 year old have there?

I'm not even arguing about the fact he got off, I just can't think of any legit reason why he should have been there to begin with.

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[quote=jamf;1300527]Dude wasn't mature enough to have his own car and drive himself there but he was man enough to play Rambo with an assault rifle.

[B]Every wannabe Navy Seal, Green Beret, and Force Recon Marine is going to trade in their airsoft rifle for the real thing and find a protest.
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Over one verdict? I mean come on.

I am as DEM as they come but because of this verdict the GOVT isn't printing get out of jail free cards now for shooters.

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[quote=MTK;1300539]Come on, what vested interest did a 17 year old have there?

I'm not even arguing about the fact he got off, I just can't think of any legit reason why he should have been there to begin with.[/quote]

His vested interest is his community not being destroyed for zero reason. None. People were fed up. He had a right to be there.

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[quote=MTK;1300539]Come on, what vested interest did a 17 year old have there?

I'm not even arguing about the fact he got off, I just can't think of any legit reason why he should have been there to begin with.[/quote]

The 2 people that got killed had no good reason to be there either.

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2nd rule of fight club, don't go after someone holding an AR15, you are likely to get fucking shot and killed.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1300545]The 2 people that got killed had no good reason to be there either.[/QUOTE]


Yes. They did.

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[quote=punch it in;1300547]Yes. They did.[/quote]

No. They didn't. Rioting and looting are not good reasons. I don't care what that started out as, but by the time the shootings happened that was not a protest at that point in time. They placed themselves in positions where they could get shot and they did.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1300552]No. They didn't. Rioting and looting are not good reasons. I don't care what that started out as, but by the time the shootings happened that was not a protest at that point in time. They placed themselves in positions where they could get shot and they did.[/QUOTE]


Lol. That is the police job to determine not some racist cunt bothered by BLM and their supporters with a gun he can barely carry.

Id feel the same way if some anti Trumper went down to the Capitol and pretended to be a cop.

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The little racist motherfucker wouldn’t have been bothered if he lived in DC, and people were rioting, looting, and damaging property there. Neither would most of the people defending him. Because those were white people. White people who had no good reason to be there whatsoever. It didn’t start as something good. It was never something with good intentions. But i hear zero about rioting or looting or a fuckin insurrection of our government from the people who are so concerned about the buildings in Kenosha. Please.

Im not talking about you SD, i know you have a problem with that too. And had some anti trumper marched in there with a gun full vigilante id have a problem with them too.

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Punch…lawd Jesus. I’m gonna pray for you.

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[quote=punch it in;1300556]The little racist motherfucker wouldn’t have been bothered if he lived in DC, and people were rioting, looting, and damaging property there. Neither would most of the people defending him. Because those were white people. White people who had no good reason to be there whatsoever. It didn’t start as something good. It was never something with good intentions. But i hear zero about rioting or looting or a fuckin insurrection of our government from the people who are so concerned about the buildings in Kenosha. Please.

[B]Im not talking about you SD, i know you have a problem with that too.[/B] And had some anti trumper marched in there with a gun full vigilante id have a problem with them too.[/quote]

Saw the 1st part and was about to say whoa now, saw the 2nd part and say...

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[quote=Chico23231;1300544]His vested interest is his community not being destroyed for zero reason. None. People were fed up. He had a right to be there.[/quote]

Stop, you're being ridiculous. Unless he was protecting family or his own private property, a minor with a gun had zero business being there. Bad idea right from the start. And the end result (two dead) proves the point.

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[quote=MTK;1300567]Stop, you're being ridiculous. Unless he was protecting family or his own private property, a minor with a gun had zero business being there. Bad idea right from the start. And the end result (two dead) proves the point.[/quote]

You might think it’s ridiculous, but he had a right just as anyone else to be there. It’s completely unacceptable to think a person has a right to commit violence, burn, loot, and destroy things thinking they can’t be harmed in the process. Kyle would be home if the rioters woulda stayed home.

You understand he was attacked right? And if he wasn’t attacked those 2 convicted violent felons would still be alive.

Justice was served and Kyle rightly was found innocent.

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[quote=Chico23231;1300571]You might think it’s ridiculous, but he had a right just as anyone else to be there. It’s completely unacceptable to think a person has a right to commit violence, burn, loot, and destroy things thinking they can’t be harmed in the process. Kyle would be home if the rioters woulda stayed home.

You understand he was attacked right? And if he wasn’t attacked those 2 convicted violent felons would still be alive.

Justice was served and Kyle rightly was found innocent.[/quote]

Yes it's ridiculous to me you think it was a good idea for a kid, a minor child, to show up to an already volatile situation with a gun. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. Again, he wasn't protecting family or property. He stuck his nose in where it didn't belong and two people are dead because he's an idiot.

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No his community is his business and people in the area were doing their best to defend from violent rioters. He was coordinating with others to defend local businesses that were under threat. Again, he was attacked…he is allowed to be there regardless of your opinion.

Remember the rioters had zero reason to be there, Jacob Blake was justifiable shot. Rioters should have been at home and not living out some bullshit woke riot fantasy attacking property and people.

MTK will have to disagree on this one.

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[quote=Chico23231;1300573]No his community is his business and people in the area were doing their best to defend from violent rioters. He was coordinating with others to defend local businesses that were under threat. Again, he was attacked…he is allowed to be there regardless of your opinion.

Remember the rioters had zero reason to be there, Jacob Blake was justifiable shot. Rioters should have been at home and not living out some bullshit woke riot fantasy attacking property and people.

MTK will have to disagree on this one.[/quote]

If you had a kid would you let him go into that situation with a gun?

If the rioters had no reason to be there than neither did Rittenhouse. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

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[quote=MTK;1300522]The entire chain of events leading up to him killing 2 people just blows me away. What parent would drive their kid across state lines with a gun to a place where there is civil unrest? A gun he bought because he thought it looked cool, but he wasn't there looking for trouble? Ok. Have to think this opens up a can of worms for the future. Any idiot with a gun will now feel empowered to show up to a protest to just "help out" and then claim self defense when things get dicey and they decide to start playing Call of Duty for real.[/quote]

Damn this is a perfect example of people still believing and repeating inaccurate information.

Case in point.
"What parent would drive their kid across state lines with a gun to a place where there is civil unrest?"

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Inaccurate things I've read or heard (on the radio) on the case since Friday.

1) Ritterhouse killed 3 black men.
2) He chased down and shot his first victim.
3) He was randomly shooting into the crowd.
4) He was a member of a white supremacist militia.
5) His mother drove him to the protest/riot.
6) He transported a gun across state lines.
7) It was illegal for him to have that gun at the riot since he was only 17.

I think it would help everyone if just facts were used when discussing this case.

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[quote=nonniey;1300576]Damn this is a perfect example of people still believing and repeating inaccurate information.

Case in point.
"What parent would drive their kid across state lines with a gun to a place where there is civil unrest?"[/quote]

Yeah thanks, I already corrected that.

Does that make it all better that he drove himself though?

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[quote=MTK;1300579]Yeah thanks, I already corrected that.

Does that make it all better that he drove himself though?[/quote]

Not at all just people are basing many of their positions on inaccurate info.

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These looters, rioters and most protesters these days are just emotionally weak losers. You're going to loot and protest because of Jacob Blake? Think about what your cause is? A criminal who had warrants for sexual assault and a few other things. Wasn't he going to stab someone before the cops gave him lead?? Sound like he deserved it.

I turned on the tv the other night and people in NY were protesting. Steve Kerr and Steve Nash looked like they were going to cry. Wtf is wrong w/ people these days? People protested for voting rights, basic equal human rights and now they protest for criminals like Jacob Blake.

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I think the scary part of all of this was the mishandling the media did of the story, I had a hard time gathering the facts every outlet had a different story.

The media is a very very powerful weapon much more so then a random kid with a ar 15. Kyle might have mowed down two people the media can light a war with their words.

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[quote=nonniey;1300580]Not at all just people are basing many of their positions on inaccurate info.[/quote]

My very simple position is he shouldn't have been there in the first place. Still have yet to see a good argument against that basic point. If we all can't even agree that a 17 year old taking a gun to volatile scene was a bad idea, well, that's a problem.

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[quote=MTK;1300583]My very simple position is he shouldn't have been there in the first place. Still have yet to see a good argument against that basic point. If we all can't even agree that a 17 year old taking a gun to volatile scene was a bad idea, well, that's a problem.[/quote]

Oh, I agree with you on that whole heartedly. A teenager (heck anyone for that matter but especially a teenager) with a gun at a riot is a pretty volatile mix. That doesn't mean the verdict was wrong.

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[quote=nonniey;1300584]Oh, I agree with you on that whole heartedly. A teenager (heck anyone for that matter but especially a teenager) with a gun at a riot is a pretty volatile mix. That doesn't mean the verdict was wrong.[/quote]

I haven't questioned the verdict. The prosecution seemed ill prepared from the start, and the high burden of proof rests on them with a self defense claim. Right from the jump it wasn't hard to see what way the case was heading.

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[quote=mredskins;1300582]I think the scary part of all of this was the mishandling the media did of the story, I had a hard time gathering the facts every outlet had a different story.

The media is a very very powerful weapon much more so then a random kid with a ar 15. Kyle might have mowed down two people the media can light a war with their words.[/quote]

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Why?

Why do we need 16 year olds with assault rifles "protecting people".

If something starts to happen .. I dont trust a 16 or 17 year old to be able to maintain their composure.

A frazzled 16 year old armed with an assault rifle is going to perceive a lot of things as a threat when an adult might be more rationale.

The first guy Rittenhouse killed was unarmed but acting like a "babbling idiot" asking to be shot.

The adults could see he wasnt a real threat ... Rittenhouse was scared. Scared kids tend to do dumb things.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/wisconsin-father-daughter-armed-kenosha-rittenhouse-protesters[/url]

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Lackowski, who was armed the night of the unrest, said he had traveled to Kenosha to protect local property. He said he met Rittenhouse, who introduced himself as an EMT.

The former Marine testified that he also came across Rosenbaum, who "had been...acting very belligerently, he had asked very bluntly to shoot him" but that he did not consider the man to be a threat.

Lackowski said he perceived Rosenbaum as a "babbling idiot" and that he turned away and ignored him. He said Rosenbaum was "false stepping ... to entice someone to do something" -- an action he demonstrated for the jury as taking a quick step forward before stepping back.

At one point, Lackowski testified, he ran toward the sound of gunfire and encountered Rittenhouse -- who appeared "frazzled, in shock" and was still armed -- running away.

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-friday/index.html[/url]

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I dont want your fucking 16 year old daughter walking around volatile areas with an assault rifle ffs.

I dont trust your 16 year old daughter with my life.

I shouldnt have to trust the judgment of an armed 16 year old.

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Rittenhouse .. all those adults with guns and its not by coincidence the 17 year old perceived a threat when the adults didnt.

17 year old was the only one to fire his weapon (except some random gun fire that spooked Kyle to begin with).

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[QUOTE=MTK;1300585]I haven't questioned the verdict. The prosecution seemed ill prepared from the start, and the high burden of proof rests on them with a self defense claim. Right from the jump it wasn't hard to see what way the case was heading.[/QUOTE]


Prosecution was weak. Plus Daddy Judge was going to do everything in his power to make sure Jr didn’t start crying again after the verdict. I mean there was “a black” on the jury. [emoji849][emoji849][emoji849]