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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1290420]Yeah, that's a pretty ridiculous statement. Del Rio is a much better D coordinator than we've had here in more than a minute.

You know, sometimes a unit just collectively doesn't have a good day; and it's not all that uncommon for it to happen in week 1.

I totally get the frustration though, because if this defense isn't great, the team has no chance until the offense shows it can muster more than 20 points.[/quote]

We don't know what the dynamic behind the scenes is either, JDR may have been begging for more LB help, but RR and the front office just said do what you can with what we have right now. There is no way they couldn't have upgraded from J.Bostic and the bunch of JAGs they have behind him if they really wanted to. This is after all only year 2 of the rebuild, win now is not necessarily a priority.

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1290455]We don't know what the dynamic behind the scenes is either, JDR may have been begging for more LB help, but RR and the front office just said do what you can with what we have right now. There is no way they couldn't have upgraded from J.Bostic and the bunch of JAGs they have behind him if they really wanted to. This is after all only year 2 of the rebuild, win now is not necessarily a priority.[/QUOTE]And I would say Davis wasn't anywhere to be seen on those downs either.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1290459]And I would say Davis wasn't anywhere to be seen on those downs either.

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I was kinda surprised by this.. I guess Davis still has ways to go before he becomes 3 downs player. But then, this is something we should expect from a player who played as starter only for one year last year.

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Ok, I am not QB whisperer. I liked RF, I like TH, I clearly am not educated in the better mechanics of what makes a great qb. With all that said, and knowing rankings are ultimately clickbait stuff, this was what was said about TH in fansided rankings
[Quote]26. Taylor Heinicke
Ryan Fitzpatrick technically started, but he hurt his hip and was out. Washington could be in worse hands, but they could also be in better hands. Taylor Heinicke will not win you games, but he will lose them…[/Quote]

What a useless blurb.


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1290481]Ok, I am not QB whisperer. I liked RF, I like TH, I clearly am not educated in the better mechanics of what makes a great qb. With all that said, and knowing rankings are ultimately clickbait stuff, this was what was said about TH in fansided rankings


What a useless blurb.


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Is he a guy or a man or a football player? Nobody knows, really.

The only thing I do know is the legend will grow if he delivers the ass kicking of his lifetime tomorrow night.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1290459]And I would say Davis wasn't anywhere to be seen on those downs either.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]He's definitely still learning the position. After seeing him get more and more snaps even in nickel and dime packages in preseason I thought he might be close to ready come week 1, but we'll need to be bit patient it seems.
Look at the Deion Jones, Devin White and Isaiah Simmons of the league... Good MLB seem to start really flashing from year 2.

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Just finished watching the Broncos @ Giants game.

What gives me hope:
-their secondary is surprisingly not that good. You'd think Ryan Logan, Jabril Peppers, Adoree Jackson and James Bradberry is a solid SB squad... But yet Bridgewater kept finding guys wide open. Wether they were getting beat, or it was a zone coverage snafu, one guy was always open, especially on 3rd down. Minus one awesome stripped ball by Logan, it would have been 17 - 7 at the half and 34 - 13 at the end.
-I think Heinicke gives us a better chance against this D than Fitzpatrick. They don't have a Joey Bosa, but their front 7 is not to be underestimated, so Taylor's ability to extend the play will be key to find weaknesses in the secondary (Bradberry seems to be their weak link).
-if our DL lives up to what their supposed to be, we could limit this offense the way the Broncos did... But...

What if fear:
-Our LBs suck and are slow, so be ready for some excruciating 3rd and long conversion on the ground by Jones. He ran quite well against the Broncos.
-Our OL struggled and their front 7 is quite solid, Heinicke is gonna have to make plays.

Winnable game for sure. Hope we can exploit that unexpected weakness of their secondary.
Will need our DL to be who we think they are, like, finally. And our LBs to be a little less bad than what we think (Bostic I'm staring right at you).

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1290489]Just finished watching the Broncos @ Giants game.

What gives me hope:
-their secondary is surprisingly not that good. You'd think Ryan Logan, Jabril Peppers, Adoree Jackson and James Bradberry is a solid SB squad... But yet Bridgewater kept finding guys wide open. Wether they were getting beat, or it was a zone coverage snafu, one guy was always open, especially on 3rd down. Minus one awesome stripped ball by Logan, it would have been 17 - 7 at the half and 34 - 13 at the end.[/quote]

Makes me wonder if RR/JDR saw something about Ryan that meant we didn't pursue him ourselves? System CB?

[quote=FrenchSkin;1290489]What if fear:
-Our LBs suck and are slow, so be ready for some excruciating 3rd and long conversion on the ground by Jones. He ran quite well against the Broncos.[/quote]

I really want to see JDR pull 2 if not all LB's on passing downs and use his DB's to defend the WHOLE field, not just the line and the space beyond the chains. We can't give up 3rd and long consistently and win, especially as you say, if Jones does it running (because our LB's can't contain him).

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1290499]Makes me wonder if RR/JDR saw something about Ryan that meant we didn't pursue him ourselves? System CB?







I really want to see JDR pull 2 if not all LB's on passing downs and use his DB's to defend the WHOLE field, not just the line and the space beyond the chains. We can't give up 3rd and long consistently and win, especially as you say, if Jones does it running (because our LB's can't contain him).[/QUOTE]Yeah this containing Jones thing worries me. Rivera said in his presser we'll need to keep him in the pocket... Well that'll require some discipline from our DL because our LBs sure won't help with that...

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Both defenses will have to deal with containing the QB in this contest.

I hope J Davis plays a lot. He garnered 56% of the defensive snap counts last week compared to 84% for Bostic. I would like to see that flipped. He would be the perfect 'spy' for Jones.

Holcomb was in on 100%...

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1290499]

I really want to see JDR pull 2 if not all LB's on passing downs and use his DB's to defend the WHOLE field, not just the line and the space beyond the chains. We can't give up 3rd and long consistently and win, especially as you say, if Jones does it running (because our LB's can't contain him).[/quote]

I actually had that idea, on Monday, after getting burnt on 3rd and 16 on Sunday. So, I say anything around 3rd and 7 or longer should require all or most of the LB's being pulled from the field and substituted with DB's.

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Honestly I would rather see Davis on the field making mistakes but learning and getting better in the process than Bostic wandering around looking lost which has no upside or prospect of improvement. Bostic is what he is

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1290569]Honestly I would rather see Davis on the field making mistakes but learning and getting better in the process than Bostic wandering around looking lost which has no upside or prospect of improvement. Bostic is what he is[/quote]

That's plausible.

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If you're in the crowd that says the Heinicke sample size is too small to think his very strong play is indicative of his future, then you have to be in the crowd that says the Daniel Jones record against us (4-0) is too small a sample to think that's necessarily for real.

Heinicke is going to make mistakes, and we're going to eat Daniel Jones alive tonight.

Washington 19, New York 16

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[quote=Schneed10;1290585]If you're in the crowd that says the Heinicke sample size is too small to think his very strong play is indicative of his future, then you have to be in the crowd that says the Daniel Jones record against us (4-0) is too small a sample to think that's necessarily for real.

Heinicke is going to make mistakes, and we're going to eat Daniel Jones alive tonight.

Washington 19, New York 16[/quote]

When is the last time we scored 35 or 40? Did we at all last yr? Must be nice to have a good offense

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1290591]When is the last time we scored 35 or 40? Did we at all last yr? Must be nice to have a good offense[/quote]

Dallas on Thanksgiving last year. Last time we scored 40 without a defensive TD no idea

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1290591]When is the last time we scored 35 or 40? Did we at all last yr? Must be nice to have a good offense[/quote]

I get the frustration and feel it too, but nobody should be surprised that the construct for this season is dominant defense with a just-good-enough offense.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1290606]I get the frustration and feel it too, but nobody should be surprised that the construct for this season is dominant defense with a just-good-enough offense.[/QUOTE]The frustration is that the "dominant defense" failed against a team that was 7-9 and albeit they are a strong team, they are by no means the strongest we will face.

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I actually think that in the end, the Chargers will be right there in the mix with the Chiefs, Bills, Browns, & Ravens for the AFC Championship. That week 1 loss won't look so bad then.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1290610]I actually think that in the end, the Chargers will be right there in the mix with the Chiefs, Bills, Browns, & Ravens for the AFC Championship. That week 1 loss won't look so bad then.[/QUOTE]I hope you are right.

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We rebounded all right. Into a top 5 pick. Win or lose it is apparent that we are a bad team. So are the Giants.