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SunnySide 10-25-2021 12:00 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1297419]There are certain young guys that should be playing. Not a whole lot you can accomplish as far as communication and cohesion with units because it won’t be the same unit next year. Hell it may not even be the same staff. There are probably no quarterbacks going in the top 10 next year so I don’t care if we lose out. We will be in position to take a quarterback regardless. I definitely would like to see all the young guys get major playing time. I would rather finish with 6-7 wins and not be a total laughing stock based on the quarterback class. We are not winning the division and do not have to worry about a first place schedule but lets not finish 3-14. That is just gross. Lol. Here we are in October talking about next year. [emoji1750] This fuckin team man. One step forward two steps back. That should be our new name. The Washington One step forward two steps backs.[/quote]

Secondary - I think the core is there. Curl, Fuller, St Juste and Jackson are 4 of the 5 starters in the secondary next year. Need to find that elusive traditional FS imo.

No top 10 QBs in draft - i dont follow college football hard until bowl time so I dont have any personal opinions but yeah everyone is saying its not a great year. Which really really sucks but QBs move up and down the board so Im holding out hope.

MTK 10-25-2021 12:05 PM

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Hard to imagine no QB's going in the top 10. I was just looking at a mock that had us taking Corral at #7.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2022-nfl-mock-draft-lions-roll-dice-on-qb-late-in-round-after-steelers-washington-take-first-two-passers/[/url]

sdskinsfan2001 10-25-2021 12:07 PM

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At least 2 QBs will be taken in the top 10. Guys will rise throughout the season and draft process.

KI Skins Fan 10-25-2021 12:08 PM

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[quote=MTK;1297418]We were 2-5 at this point last year and all seemed lost. Not that I think we're going to see another repeat of last year. Just saying.[/quote]

That was last season which was an aberration in the play of the NFC East, IMO. This season, we're no better than any other NFCE team. We're also playing a division champion's schedule which is killing us. Meanwhile, the Cowboys have put together a championship caliber offense to go with an improved defense and solid ST play. In view of the above, I think we're toast.

mredskins 10-25-2021 12:08 PM

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[quote=MTK;1297421]Hard to imagine no QB's going in the top 10. I was just looking at a mock that had us taking Corral at #7.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2022-nfl-mock-draft-lions-roll-dice-on-qb-late-in-round-after-steelers-washington-take-first-two-passers/[/url][/quote]

There is only 3 QBS project in round 1 and ours at 7 is the highest pick, safe to say its not a QB rich draft.

MTK 10-25-2021 12:18 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1297424]There is only 3 QBS project in round 1 and ours at 7 is the highest pick, safe to say its not a QB rich draft.[/quote]

Too early to tell, there are guys that always seem to come out of nowhere and just due to the high demand someone is bound to be overvalued and will go higher than expected.

SunnySide 10-25-2021 12:28 PM

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We saw a tremendous April push of quarterbacks up the draft board a year ago, which saw a second consecutive season of quarterbacks going first and second overall in the draft. While Jared Goff and Carson Wentz followed in the footsteps of Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota in the previous season, we will not see it happen for a third year in a row.

There has been plenty of negative publicity about this season's quarterback class, but it's deeper than the 2015 class that produced Winston and Mariota. Deshaun Watson has given the ball away too frequently over the last three years, but good luck getting his back-to-back performances against Alabama defenses out of your head.

Mitchell Trubisky doesn't have much experience, but there are several boxes he is going to check from a physical standpoint. Patrick Mahomes and Deshone Kizer would have likely been first-round locks in the 2018 draft had they stayed in school, but they still have the traits and talent to get early round consideration this year. Oh, and Pittsburgh's Nathan Peterman might be the Kirk Cousins of this year's draft. It's not a great class, but it has potential.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/2017-nfl-draft-trubisky-leads-qb-class-lacking-elite-talent-0ap3000000799332[/url]

just hope we get the Mahomes or Watson and not the Trubisky/Kizer/Petterman

skinsfan69 10-25-2021 01:01 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1297414]At 2-5, looking at the Conference, there is no way we contend for a WC and the season is done for me in terms of trying to win.

I hope we lose out and dont tack on some meaningless wins during the last 5 games of the season vs NFCE teams.

Lets continue playing Jamin Davis, get Bates and Reyes in at TE, rotate some of the depth young guys on DL more, run some scripted plays for Dyami Brown and Mline.

Work on secondary communication. Havent seen those huge holes in coverage btw LBs playing zone and corner/safeties to far back like we did first 6 games or so.

Heinike - doesnt seem to be improving. Feels like we stopped calling and asking him to make certain throws and now we run a neutured playbook.

Blewitt showed he has a strong leg, just not the instant incline of the ball like Hopkins perhaps.

Lose out. Only positive long term positive move we can make. Otherwise we will have the same team next year but with a Case Keenum or some other "non answer" Qb bandaid.[/quote]

I honestly don't want us to win another game the entire year. 2-15. That will give us the best chance to get a franchise QB.

Look at the Bengals right now? They're way better than we are. The low life Bengals. Why? Joe Burrow is the main reason. They also have some studs at wr. Chase is a superstar in the making. Terry is really good but he is not Chase good. That guy may be the best wr in the game and he is a rookie.

Ruhskins 10-25-2021 01:10 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1297427]I honestly don't want us to win another game the entire year. 2-15. That will give us the best chance to get a franchise QB.

Look at the Bengals right now? They're way better than we are. The low life Bengals. Why? Joe Burrow is the main reason. They also have some studs at wr. Chase is a superstar in the making. Terry is really good but he is not Chase good. That guy may be the best wr in the game and he is a rookie.[/quote]

Terry is superstar, he just has garbage or over the hill QBs throwing at him all the time.

mooby 10-25-2021 01:13 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1297428]Terry is superstar, he just has garbage or over the hill QBs throwing at him all the time.[/quote]

Seriously. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing Heinicke air-mail balls over receivers heads. Ya boy has a serious problem.

punch it in 10-25-2021 01:28 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1297427]I honestly don't want us to win another game the entire year. 2-15. That will give us the best chance to get a franchise QB.

Look at the Bengals right now? They're way better than we are. The low life Bengals. Why? Joe Burrow is the main reason. They also have some studs at wr. Chase is a superstar in the making. Terry is really good but he is not Chase good. That guy may be the best wr in the game and he is a rookie.[/QUOTE]


Terry isn’t as good as Chase. He is better. Swap quarterbacks and the numbers aren’t even close.

Chico23231 10-25-2021 02:11 PM

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I don’t want the Braves base running like hiencke sliding attempts.



Did he Lambo leap after coming up short at the goaline? What a fuck head

He should be fined for that shit

MTK 10-25-2021 02:14 PM

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I noticed when the play happened in real time that he touched a knee down, I was like fuck I hope the ball was across the goal line... I still have no idea why he didn't just run in standing up.

So dumb. Yet so Washington.

Chico23231 10-25-2021 02:19 PM

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[quote=nonniey;1297378]Despite the criticism of Heineke for his errors in the Redszone - he was the one moving the offense. Hope the Redskins don't repeat the Trent Green error when it comes to deciding what to do with him following this season.[/quote]

The guy is a solid back up, but he is not a starter period

Ruhskins 10-25-2021 02:26 PM

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[quote=mooby;1297429]Seriously. I'm getting pretty tired of seeing Heinicke air-mail balls over receivers heads. Ya boy has a serious problem.[/quote]

Terry looks like Mr. Fantastic out there having to stretch himself to get all of these off passes by TH.

BaltimoreSkins 10-25-2021 02:28 PM

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If Terry doesn't miss a game with a strained oblique this year I will be shocked

MTK 10-25-2021 02:31 PM

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Love Terry but that drop in the end zone... absolutely killer.

Chico23231 10-25-2021 02:40 PM

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10 fuckin points

punch it in 10-25-2021 03:28 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1297447]Love Terry but that drop in the end zone... absolutely killer.[/QUOTE]


He was probably so shocked it was on target…

htownskinfan 10-25-2021 06:45 PM

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[quote=MTK;1297439]I noticed when the play happened in real time that he touched a knee down, I was like fuck I hope the ball was across the goal line... I still have no idea why he didn't just run in standing up.

So dumb. Yet so Washington.[/quote]

I think that they have it drilled into his head so much not to take a hit and get injured that it affected him on that play.I think he thought he would take a hit and do that's why he did what he did,only explanation I can come up with

CRedskinsRule 10-25-2021 07:26 PM

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1297459]I think that they have it drilled into his head so much not to take a hit and get injured that it affected him on that play.I think he thought he would take a hit and do that's why he did what he did,only explanation I can come up with[/QUOTE]That was my thought too. Still, he should know that crossing the goal line is the same as going out of bounds, no hitting allowed.

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BaltimoreSkins 10-25-2021 08:58 PM

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He has used his body with abandon to get yards he even lead blocks down the field. I think as others have said he just has a low IQ in game situations. This was the second time this season he dove and came up short. The first was short of first down marker early in the season. Same situation dove unnecessarily knee down. If he is being told not to take hits on runs he does not seem to follow it uniformly.

punch it in 10-25-2021 09:13 PM

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Obviously a slide or dive says he thought he was taking a hit but come on. He could have gotten in without too much contact. He made an awful decision.
Im not sure that they are telling him to be overly cautious to that extent.

Chief X_Phackter 10-25-2021 09:52 PM

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“We’re such a better football team than what our record says, but at the end of the day, you can only go by what we’ve done,”

“So we’re what, 2-5?” Allen asked. “Then that’s just who we are. Losing teams find ways to lose games, and winning teams find ways to win games. And right now, we’re finding ways to lose.”

-Jonathan Allen

Chief X_Phackter 10-25-2021 09:57 PM

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1297400]I think we can all agree there is work to be done on both sides of the ball. No reason to try n figure out who is responsible for losing. Lol. It is the offense. It is the defense. It is the staff. We have yet to play a complete game on both sides of the ball.[/QUOTE]

I can't even remember when this team last played a full game of complementary football. One side has picked up the other on occasion, but they haven't put it all together in quite some time.

skinsfaninok 10-25-2021 10:01 PM

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Big Ups to 93, He got paid and got better!

skinsfaninok 10-25-2021 10:15 PM

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FWIW, CY99 had the lowest grade on the entire D yesterday

FrenchSkin 10-25-2021 10:46 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1297476]FWIW, CY99 had the lowest grade on the entire D yesterday[/quote]

He definitely was our least impactful DL. Allen, Payne, Sweat and Settle all had a big game.

skinsfaninok 10-25-2021 10:50 PM

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FrenchSkin 10-25-2021 11:30 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1297480][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211026/7761171b8634fbe0bc2ddbdd34d38566.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

We truly are an aging QB graveyard...

skinsfaninok 10-25-2021 11:45 PM

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1297481]We truly are an aging QB graveyard...[/QUOTE]


If I’m them I’m calling Houston and offering CY and 2 1s to start negotiations. Word is Watson is open to more places than just Miami.

FrenchSkin 10-25-2021 11:53 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1297483]If I’m them I’m calling Houston and offering CY and 2 1s to start negotiations. Word is Watson is open to more places than just Miami.[/QUOTE]Pains me to say cuz I got CY's jersey, but I don't disagree with you... At some point you gotta find an answer at QB. The argument against it would be that we gonna draft pretty high next year...

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skinsfaninok 10-25-2021 11:55 PM

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1297484]Pains me to day cuz I got CY's jersey, but I don't disagree with you... At some point you gotta find an answer at QB. The argument against it would be that we gonna draft pretty high next year...

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I want a CY jersey too but I’d rather have a Watson one lol and the draft this yr is very suspect.. Is Matt Corral really the QB1? Malik Willis? It’s definitely a weak class

FrenchSkin 10-26-2021 12:15 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1297485]I want a CY jersey too but I’d rather have a Watson one lol and the draft this yr is very suspect.. Is Matt Corral really the QB1? Malik Willis? It’s definitely a weak class[/QUOTE]Don't know shit about college football so I'm listening to what's being said on that matter... But anyway we know how wrong those predraft analysis can be, so a young proven stud NFL QB is indeed worth way more than the highest evaluated college star in my book.

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punch it in 10-26-2021 08:27 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1297483]If I’m them I’m calling Houston and offering CY and 2 1s to start negotiations. Word is Watson is open to more places than just Miami.[/QUOTE]


If Im Watson Im not coming here. Id rather retire. Lol. The toxic culture here is in no position to bring in Watson. It would just amplify what he did. Besides he would get killed like every other quarterback. I wouldn’t come to play here. No way.

Chief X_Phackter 10-26-2021 08:40 AM

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I don't know about all that, but I'm ready for all the Watson to Washington talk to be over also - albeit for different reasons.

I'd rather not have an 'alleged' sexual offender as the face of this franchise. 22 civil lawsuits against him for sexual misconduct or sexual assault...It would be par for the course, but no thank you.

skinsfan69 10-26-2021 08:47 AM

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I don't want Watson. He is a sick fucker. I read a piece about the complaint on ESPN. Repetitive predator type of behavior.

You are an NFL QB. You can have multiple women if that's your thing. Why the massage creepiness? I don't want that guy. He has serious issues.

BaltimoreSkins 10-26-2021 09:01 AM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1297499]I don't know about all that, but I'm ready for all the Watson to Washington talk to be over also - albeit for different reasons.

I'd rather not have an 'alleged' sexual offender as the face of this franchise. 22 civil lawsuits against him for sexual misconduct or sexual assault...It would be par for the course, but no thank you.[/quote]

It would be bad optics for a franchise dealing with it's own toxic workplace culture towards women to bring in an accused sexual predator. I think Jason Wright would nix this ASAP.

MTK 10-26-2021 09:02 AM

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The only ones really talking about Watson are the fans and some in the local media. Outside of DC everyone knows he isn't coming here. He has a no trade clause and we haven't heard WFT mentioned one single time as somewhere he wants to go.

mredskins 10-26-2021 09:33 AM

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I really hate the title of this thread. A "good loss" its come to that, we are celebrating good losses.


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