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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1298865]All pro year. Love this dude.

Also, I gotta say Landon Collins has finally found his spot on the defense. Let Curl play SS…and lawd please can we finally get a free safety this off-season[/QUOTE]


Collins so much better now. Not sure he is worth the money still but at least we are getting solid play for it. Totally agree. Curl at SS and get a damn FS. Maybe need a corner too and than I think our D can return to form. JDR gotta start being JDR too.

If we cut Collins after the season do we save money?

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[quote=MTK;1298866]I'm still cutting Collins asap after the season lol

Our LB group needs serious upgrades[/quote]

Speaking of cap and cuts

Oh yeah, the cap relief with a post June 1 designation is too great to pass up. Eric Flowers is also 0 dead money hit with 10 million cap relief

If you do both we could be around 76-79 million available

Now that’s without Schreff, Flowers, Fitz, Collins…all starters who need to be replaced. And I think Leno too.

So a lot of needs but opportunity to team build and retain Payne

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[quote=punch it in;1298847]They have regressed. Plus the Eagles and Cowboys are better. When you play in a division like we did last year and get 6 games against bottom feeders i do not consider 7 wins some sort of rallying cry. Lol.
Everyone faced covid. Plenty had new coaches. Whatever im done getting beat up for thinking a guy with 8 OUT OF 11 SEASONS BEING LOSING ONES is not a good coach. He has two years. Hell ill give him 3. He will not turn it around. No way. Anyone wanna wager on him having a winning season with us by 2024 inbox me. Put your money where your mouth is. Lol.[/quote]

$100 says he will have at least one winning season in the next 3.

Loser makes a $100 donation to the winner's charity of choice.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1298870]$100 says he will have at least one winning season in the next 3.

Loser makes a $100 donation to the winner's charity of choice.[/QUOTE]


Ok. Sounds like a win win. Meaning for the charity not if i win.

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[quote=punch it in;1298810]Apparently Rivera is not trying out any kickers during the bye week. Wants to stick with Blewitt and give him time. For what? To see if he can get enough air under the ball to clear the crossbar? Wow. How in the hell are u not trying out any kicker who will try out?[/quote]

It's just unbelievable to me,the whole situation is.Only the Redskins,and I truly mean only,would sign a kicker that hasnt kicked in 4 years,sucked in college,and to top it off his name is Blewitt,WTF!!!!! Why would you even sign him to begin with! Makes no sense whatsoever. And now you're still going to keep him? We have to be tanking and Ron is in on it

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1298888]It's just unbelievable to me,the whole situation is.Only the Redskins,and I truly mean only,would sign a kicker that hasnt kicked in 4 years,sucked in college,and to top it off his name is Blewitt,WTF!!!!! Why would you even sign him to begin with! Makes no sense whatsoever. And now you're still going to keep him? We have to be tanking and Ron is in on it[/QUOTE]I think we are tanking. I wonder if Ron wishes he had last year.

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We could have tanked with Hop. He sucked enough. The Blewitt move is just complete ineptitude. There is no way they should not be trying out kickers this week.
If that dude is simply the best kicker available than my 15 year old daughter is going to start kicking right now. Guarantee she can clear the defenders in 6 years.

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[quote=punch it in;1298895]We could have tanked with Hop. He sucked enough. The Blewitt move is just complete ineptitude. There is no way they should not be trying out kickers this week.[/quote]

Ron is too busy with his evaluations, you know since he hasn't done any all year. He's got a lot of catching up to do. No time for holding kicker tryouts. ;)

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[QUOTE=MTK;1298897]Ron is too busy with his evaluations, you know since he hasn't done any all year. He's got a lot of catching up to do. No time for holding kicker tryouts. ;)[/QUOTE]


Lol. Blewitt is proof that evaluating is not a thing until the bye week. I still find it hard to believe that is his name every time i type it. Blewitt is kicking for the football team. [emoji1750]

Far cry from Moseley huh?

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Really don't know why we didn't give Joey Slye a look. Big leg and he was 7/8 for SF on FGs. Seems like a no brainer.

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Blewitt is the perfect summary of the Redskins under Dan Snyder's ownership.

If anyone asks about Snyder, just show Blewitt getting 3 kicks blocked.

He is the worst player in the NFL x 10.

Good work Rivera!!

Tank tank tank.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1298899]Really don't know why we didn't give Joey Slye a look. Big leg and he was 7/8 for SF on FGs. Seems like a no brainer.[/QUOTE]


Still could. Ron wants to give the kid more time. I don’t buy the tanking but that really makes you wonder. Either tanking or Ron is just nice to a fault. He cannot think this kid is going to pan out. Can he?

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I don't buy the tanking stuff at all.

People said Ron was tanking last year until they won 5/7.

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I don't know if he is. But I hope that's what it is. At least tanking would be a strategy.

Tanking > incompetence

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[quote=punch it in;1298838]We can revisit this conversation in 2023 if you are so confident in your boys coaching abilities….

Ill gladly eat crow if he has one winning season.[/quote]

Set me up a plate just in case but im with ya.

Dont see it with turner and del rio let alone the man in charge of them

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[quote=MTK;1298902]I don't buy the tanking stuff at all.

People said Ron was tanking last year until they won 5/7.[/quote]

They won't tank , he has too much pride for that but they won't be winning 5/7 this yr

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Just another season in paradise. Our bye week discussion is:

Are we tanking or are we just so fucking terrible, we aren't, but you couldn't tell by the play on the field.

WTF baby!!!!!

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We make a habit outta pretty much only winning close games against average or bad teams. How you do that with the league’s worst kicker is beyond me.

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That's us every year watching this team. Next year will be the year baby!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1298906]Just another season in paradise. Our bye week discussion is:

Are we tanking or are we just so fucking terrible, we aren't, but you couldn't tell by the play on the field.

WTF baby!!!!![/quote]

Yeah seems like this is a yearly tradition here at the WP... Sad

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And now for the airing of grievances…

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cant wait for the "when will we lose" thread

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Maybe we can take a deeper dive into why we are 2-6

1. This was a sub .500 team last year and definitely wasn't ready to face a first place schedule this year.
2. The QB issue.
3. Free agent moves like Jackson and Samuel haven't worked out so far.
4. The QB issue.
5. Not getting enough out of this year's draft class.
6. The defense has been a big disappointment. Or maybe they simply weren't as good as we thought they were last year. Still a lot of work to do with the back 7.

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[quote=MTK;1298915]Maybe we can take a deeper dive into why we are 2-6

1. This was a sub .500 team last year and definitely wasn't ready to face a first place schedule this year.
2. The QB issue.
3. Free agent moves like Jackson and Samuel haven't worked out so far.
4. The QB issue.
5. Not getting enough out of this year's draft class.
6. The defense has been a big disappointment. Or maybe they simply weren't as good as we thought they were last year. Still a lot of work to do with the back 7.[/quote]

QB Issue is #1 IMO, If we had a top 15 QB I Bet we would be at the very least .500. TH lost the game vs GB hands down. That strip fumble and RZ INT / not getting in were the back breakers.

Samuel should just sit the rest of the yr and wait to be 100% next summer.

CY and Sweat have not been very good, and both were supposed to be All Pro type players this yr.. Yeah the coaching has not been great but at the end of the day, the players have to step up and make plays. CY has had maybe 2 impactful plays in 8 games.. That is bad.

The LBs are garbage, hopefully Davis gets better but right now that dude couldn't cover Air.

Losing Thomas was also a huge blow, he was clearly the 2nd best target for TH.

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I'm upset just like every fan, but I don't get the whole "I am 100% SURE that this team is terrible no matter what and nothing is going to change my mind and I know I'm right."

Maybe I have this approach since I lived through the Spurrier and Zorn years, which IMO where 1000% times worst than anything that has happened recently. And for anyone that wasn't around there, trust me, we were the laughing stock of the league then. To clarify, I mean that in terms of football ops, and not the off the field shit show.

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I should have said the order is in no particular order. Just tossing them out there.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1298920]I'm upset just like every fan, but I don't get the whole "I am 100% SURE that this team is terrible no matter what and nothing is going to change my mind and I know I'm right."

Maybe I have this approach since I lived through the Spurrier and Zorn years, which IMO where 1000% times worst than anything that has happened recently. And for anyone that wasn't around there, trust me, we were the laughing stock of the league then. To clarify, I mean that in terms of football ops, and not the off the field shit show.[/quote]

Yeah and just to add doing a rebuild isn't easy, Ron has just about turned this entire roster over now. There are going to be bumps along the way. Improvement in terms of wins isn't going to show in a nice linear fashion.

That said we can't be sitting at 2-6 again at this point next year. This upcoming offseason is huge.

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[quote=MTK;1298915]Maybe we can take a deeper dive into why we are 2-6

1. This was a sub .500 team last year and definitely wasn't ready to face a first place schedule this year.
2. The QB issue.
3. Free agent moves like Jackson and Samuel haven't worked out so far.
4. The QB issue.
5. Not getting enough out of this year's draft class.
6. The defense has been a big disappointment. Or maybe they simply weren't as good as we thought they were last year. Still a lot of work to do with the back 7.[/quote]

Good list, I would add:

7. Injuries in the offense (Fitz, Logan, Gibson, etc., etc.).
8. Brutal schedule (although I don't put much stock into this)
9. The QB issue :)

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[QUOTE=MTK;1298915]Maybe we can take a deeper dive into why we are 2-6

1. This was a sub .500 team last year and definitely wasn't ready to face a first place schedule this year.
2. The QB issue.
3. Free agent moves like Jackson and Samuel haven't worked out so far.
4. The QB issue.
5. Not getting enough out of this year's draft class.
6. The defense has been a big disappointment. Or maybe they simply weren't as good as we thought they were last year. Still a lot of work to do with the back 7.[/QUOTE]


Totally agree. I almost wanna put the kicker debacle on there too. I mean to go into the year with Hopkins i knew was a mistake and now as a result we have Blewitt. Other than 1 and maybe 7 if in fact they just weren’t that good who is to blame for 3, and 5? 2 wasn’t anyones fault because Fitz got hurt. That move will probably never be able to be judged good or bad. I was in favor of it. Maybe there were other avenues like trading up for Jones?

But the 3 and 5 are looking like poor decisions. Not trying to blame Rivera cus im not sure how much he had to do with them. Thought he had total autonomy though.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1298920]I'm upset just like every fan, but I don't get the whole "I am 100% SURE that this team is terrible no matter what and nothing is going to change my mind and I know I'm right.".[/QUOTE]

It is just being real. I mean every person on here even me, the great hater, wants them to win.

There is one thing that can change my mind. Winning. I do not see this team winning more than 5 games. That is bad. There aint no way around it. For 30 years I drank the kool aid and fooled myself into believing that things would be different. Right up until this year. Our D was great and got better. Nope.
TH and Fitz have to be better than Haskins and Alex. Nope.
I realize the schedule is tougher but we barely beat Atlanta. We got incredibly lucky against the Giants. We lost to Denver.
It is what it is Ruh. I’m not sure what fooling myself will do for the team. Not trying to be Debbie Downer and if i am I apologize but there are no participation trophies in the NFL. You win we good. You lose we aint. Hope they come outta the bye and rattle off 8 straight wins. With every ounce of my being. For 42 years - since i was 8 - this team meant the world to me. If they lost my week was fucking over. If they won nothing could bother me. But Snyder shit all over that. I ultimately blame him for everything. I know RR is up against it. I know everyone who coaches here or plays here is up against it. I would be happy just being competitive against good teams and taking care of business against bad ones. That would give me hope for the future and nothing would make me happier than donating to Mattys charity of choice.

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I have never been a Rivera fan. When he came to WFT and brought the Carolina staff, all I saw was the last 3 or 4 years in Carolina. Lousy team, lousy record and lousy coaching staff. I sincerely believe that this team will be in the dumpster as long as Rivera is here. I also believe that it will be in the dumpster as long as Snyder is owner but he is never going to sell. Snyder has picked historically bad coaches every time. Maybe Snyder will get lucky and hire a winning coach. Probably not, but hopeful.

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It’s our bye week and we will still lose lol

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1299022]It’s our bye week and we will still lose lol[/QUOTE]Dallas losing makes it a win in my books. If Philly gets blown out that will be terrific.

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Having to get crushed by Tampa after a bye is not cool. I petition the league to flip our games. Let's play Carolina next Sunday.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1299049]Having to get crushed by Tampa after a bye is not cool. I petition the league to flip our games. Let's play Carolina next Sunday.[/QUOTE]Crushed by Tampa or humiliated by Carolina, the order doesn't really matter.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1299051]Crushed by Tampa or humiliated by Carolina, the order doesn't really matter.

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That's true. But we have a 0% chance of beating Tampa. We have like a 10% chance of beating Carolina.

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Good read

[URL="https://www.washingtonfootball.com/news/rivera-reflects-on-changes-team-mindset-at-mid-season-break"]Rivera reflects on changes, team mindset at mid-season break[/URL]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1299022]It’s our bye week and we will still lose lol[/quote]

We actually won...Jags, Giants, and Dolphins all won...meaning a better potential draft pick for us!

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[QUOTE=Redskins247;1299090]We actually won...Jags, Giants, and Dolphins all won...meaning a better potential draft pick for us![/QUOTE]Add Dallas and Philly losing, and it was an enjoyable weekend to see the scores.

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