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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1311079]Read your own highlighted words. He is a choker. That's why he is terrible. To hell with the stats. A QB needs to find ways to [B]win games[/B] for his team.

Mariota is the only one of the three you mentioned that I would consider.[/quote]

HE's another dude that cant stay healthy.. We need to stop giving those guys chances

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[quote=punch it in;1311076]I hope this conversation doesn’t continue with him wearing the B & G. Lol.[/quote]

We could do a lot worse (and maybe we will).

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1311083]We could do a lot worse (and maybe we will).[/quote]

Dan Snyder: "Hold my beer!"

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[quote=jamf;1311084]Dan Snyder: "Hold my beer!"[/quote]

I don't want to imagine what Snyder comes up with next at the QB position.

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[quote=jamf;1311084]Dan Snyder: "Hold my beer!"[/quote]

HAHA :laughing2

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[quote=jamf;1311084]Dan Snyder: "Hold my beer!"[/quote]

Seriously. And he is a mark around the league for being a complete fool. How do you let Andy Reid get you twice?

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It isn’t only who we might sign, but what we would have to give up. Id take Wentz for a six pack as opposed to Jimmy G for a beer truck full.

Yes it is 7:51 AM, and yes I want a beer.

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[quote=punch it in;1311105]It isn’t only who we might sign, but what we would have to give up. Id take Wentz for a six pack as opposed to Jimmy G for a beer truck full.

Yes it is 7:51 AM, and yes I want a beer.[/quote]

Exactly. Sometimes in life you have to get what you can afford, not what you want. Otherwise you're an alcoholic drinking beer at 7:51 AM with no money left for food...

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1311140]Exactly. Sometimes in life you have to get what you can afford, not what you want. Otherwise you're an alcoholic drinking beer at 7:51 AM with no money left for food...[/quote]

i rather TH over Wentz, if you get Wentz he will be hurt in a few weeks and you are playing TH anyways.

Winston the only only one in that tier i take a swing at.

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[quote=punch it in;1311105]It isn’t only who we might sign, but what we would have to give up. Id take Wentz for a six pack as opposed to Jimmy G for a beer truck full.

Yes it is 7:51 AM, and yes I want a beer.[/quote]

Beer sounds good. :cheers

I don't think you are getting Wentz for any cheaper than what Garoppolo would cost.

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[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/draft-prospects-trade-options-washington-commanders-qb[/url]

One thing is for sure, one of these guys will be our quarterback.

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Unless it's Winston, Mariota, Trubisky, Dalton, Taylor, Bridgewater, Murray, or Ryan.

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I think there is a reason those guys aren’t on the list. Not that the list is the holy grail, but there is probably a reason.

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[quote=punch it in;1311154][url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/draft-prospects-trade-options-washington-commanders-qb[/url]

One thing is for sure, one of these guys will be our quarterback.[/quote]

My list based on this article:

1. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
2. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
3. Deshaun Watson, Houston Texans
4. Malik Willis, Liberty
5. Derek Carr, Las Vegas Raiders
6. Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh
7. Matt Corral, Ole Miss
8. Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers
9. Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings
10. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions
11. Carson Wentz, Indianapolis Colts
12. Sam Howell, North Carolina
13. Desmond Ridder, Cincinnati
14. Carson Strong, Nevada
15. Taylor Heinicke, Washington Commanders

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1311158]My list based on this article:

1. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
2. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
3. Deshaun Watson, Houston Texans
4. Malik Willis, Liberty
5. Derek Carr, Las Vegas Raiders
6. Kenny Pickett, Pittsburgh
7. Matt Corral, Ole Miss
8. Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers
9. Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings
10. Jared Goff, Detroit Lions
11. Carson Wentz, Indianapolis Colts
12. Sam Howell, North Carolina
13. Desmond Ridder, Cincinnati
14. Carson Strong, Nevada
15. Taylor Heinicke, Washington Commanders[/QUOTE]


Sounds about exactly where i would be at. Id probably switch Cousins and Jimmy G.

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[quote=punch it in;1311157]I think there is a reason those guys aren’t on the list. Not that the list is the holy grail, but there is probably a reason.[/quote]

Yeah, the reason is Pete Hailey doesn't think they belong. It's not like this list came from RR.

You could drop five of the QBs on that list, and replace them with five of the guys I mentioned, and it would be just as useful an article.

I do think it's interesting that two of the QBs Washington was interested in trading for last year aren't on the list though - Mariota & Trubisky.

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Wasn’t meant to be an interesting article. Lol. Just a snapshot of the more than likely candidates. You certainly can replace Wentz with Mariota if you want. I think it will be one of the draftees or one of the big guns. Well I hope it is anyway.

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I still think Willis is RG4, not the future for this franchise.

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[quote=Ohioskins;1311189]I still think Willis is RG4, not the future for this franchise.[/quote]

I agree and RG3 in his prime was better then Willis.

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[quote=mredskins;1311193]I agree and RG3 in his prime was better then Willis.[/quote]

That's unfair to say because Willis hasn't even hit his prime yet lol

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PFT is saying Jimmy G will end up in Pittsburgh.. We'll see

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311197]That's unfair to say because Willis hasn't even hit his prime yet lol[/quote]

RG3 prime was his senior year at baylor and every nfl game season one before the ravens game.

I guess i was trying to say there were alot more believers in RG3 coming out of college then willis.

Also who do you know Willis hasn't hit his prime. Did you you check his prime meter? lol

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Willis hasn't taken a snap in the pros yet, pump the brakes yo. If he's there at 11 I'm fine with taking him, or even moving up a few spots.

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[quote=punch it in;1311154][url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/draft-prospects-trade-options-washington-commanders-qb[/url]

One thing is for sure, one of these guys will be our quarterback.[/quote]

Not sure how much scouting input into those but not a good sign if you haven't taken an NFL snap and ranked below Heinicke. Strong as a mid round is intriguing but sounds like we will need a vet stop gap in there.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1311212]Not sure how much scouting input into those but not a good sign if you haven't taken an NFL snap and ranked below Heinicke. Strong as a mid round is intriguing but sounds like we will need a vet stop gap in there.[/QUOTE]


Obviously there is a wait and see element that is impossible to know now.
I agree, if we could get Strong in say the third round and keep TH to start for another year id be fine with that.

I also think Willis has a better arm, mechanics than RG-3 did. RG-3 was basically a world class sprinter playing quarterback. Willis is probably going to be a better quarterback. Will he be a franchise guy? Who the hell knows. It is crazy to say RG-3 was better than someone who never took a snap will be though. Unless you got a crystal ball.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1311203]RG3 prime was his senior year at baylor and every nfl game season one before the ravens game.

I guess i was trying to say there were alot more believers in RG3 coming out of college then willis.

Also who do you know Willis hasn't hit his prime. Did you you check his prime meter? lol[/QUOTE]


Willis plays for Liberty. I think if he played for Baylor in a power 5 conference the hype would be more RG-3’ish.

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The knock on Willis is he is a one read and run type of QB. Sure he can make the wow plays but in the NFL we all know QB's either make or break themselves on 3rd down. Can he be coached up to go through his reads? Can he set protections? He'll have to master this stuff because at Liberty it is clear he didn't have to. He could just out athlete everyone. The game I watched against Ole Miss he and their team were a bit overwhelmed.

IDK.. about Willis. I think a lot of us see RG3 all over again, although this kid seems a lot more humble and coachable. But this is the kind of guy that might get the fans excited again. Boom or bust pick for sure. I tend to think he won't make it if he is drafted here. A team like Pittsburgh where it is a stable organization would give him a better shot.

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Odds shark has us getting Watson HMMMM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1311225]The knock on Willis is he is a one read and run type of QB. Sure he can make the wow plays but in the NFL we all know QB's either make or break themselves on 3rd down. Can he be coached up to go through his reads? Can he set protections? He'll have to master this stuff because at Liberty it is clear he didn't have to. He could just out athlete everyone. The game I watched against Ole Miss he and their team were a bit overwhelmed.

IDK.. about Willis. I think a lot of us see RG3 all over again, although this kid seems a lot more humble and coachable. But this is the kind of guy that might get the fans excited again. Boom or bust pick for sure. I tend to think he won't make it if he is drafted here. A team like Pittsburgh where it is a stable organization would give him a better shot.[/QUOTE]


He isn’t the best decision maker, but he has an amazing arm and skill set. I personally think that the poor decision making is more of him knowing he is the best player on the field (at Liberty) and probably getting a little cocky thinking he can do anything he wants. To your point I believe he is high character, humble, coachable, and will absolutely understand he is in the NFL and cant just beat people based on his skill set alone.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1311226]Odds shark has us getting Watson HMMMM[/QUOTE]


Wonder what we would have to give up? Im fine with Chase, our first this year (who would be a quarterback anyway) and next years first. If somehow we could send them Sweat instead id be giddy.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1311226]Odds shark has us getting Watson HMMMM[/quote]

Everybody gettin tuggies if we land him!

I’m paying for the first round!

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[quote=punch it in;1311228]Wonder what we would have to give up? Im fine with Chase, our first this year (who would be a quarterback anyway) and next years first. If somehow we could send them Sweat instead id be giddy.[/quote]

It'll be 2 first no doubt, hopefully that is it though

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[quote=punch it in;1311227]He isn’t the best decision maker, but he has an amazing arm and skill set. I personally think that the poor decision making is more of him knowing he is the best player on the field (at Liberty) and probably getting a little cocky thinking he can do anything he wants. To your point I believe he is high character, humble, coachable, and will absolutely understand he is in the NFL and cant just beat people based on his skill set alone.[/quote]

And as I said, it comes down to where you go and play. If he is drafted here and Ron goes 6-11 or worse he'll be fired. New coaching staff comes in and is forced to work w/ a QB they may not want. We have seen this w/ Gruden/RG3, Ron w/ Haskins, Norv/Jeff George, Shanahan/McNabb. Dan just can't help himself to fuck things up w/ the Qb's. This will be a graveyard for young QB's. Jason Campbell had a new offense every year. You can't win doing that shit.

I am hoping like a lot of fans that Dan is once and for all flushed down the toilet of NFL ownership. This is the best chance to get rid of this loser.

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Another list....

[B]Ranking ten viable veteran QB options for Washington[/B]

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/2/25/22947576/ranking-ten-viable-veteran-qb-options-for-washington[/url]

My gut tells me when it's all said and done, it's going to be Trubisky, Mariota, or Garappolo.

Prepare yourselves...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1311246]Another list....

[B]Ranking ten viable veteran QB options for Washington[/B]

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/2/25/22947576/ranking-ten-viable-veteran-qb-options-for-washington[/url]

My gut tells me when it's all said and done, it's going to be Trubisky, Mariota, or Garappolo.

Prepare yourselves...[/quote]

If it comes down to a 2nd rate veteran like those 3, I expect we'll draft someone high. A blah veteran does nothing to excite the fan base or sell tickets. A rookie will get fans excited.

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At least if Watson comes here he will take the spotlight of Snyder … as far as I’m concerned if Watson ever plays for us then anyone good with it can be good with snyders allegations …

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1311255]At least if Watson comes here he will take the spotlight of Snyder … as far as I’m concerned if Watson ever plays for us then anyone good with it can be good with snyders allegations …[/QUOTE]



Rub n tugs. Hands on legs. Both sleazy as hell. No doubt.
Nobody here is good with the accusation or with Watson bein a sleaze ball.
But it isn’t the reason we want Snyder gone. We wanted him gone for 20 years.
Watson can come here and help us win and hopefully is done bein a sleaze ball?
Again, in no way defending eithers alleged actions, at all, but I just see the two situations in a different light.
Snyder was a piece of shit that got caught being sleazy, and we hope that is his downfall because of decades of bullshit.
Watson was a sleaze ball that got caught being sleazy. If he comes here i would hope he has changed his ways. There is no changing ways for Dan.
Now, if I knew for a fact that there was sexual assault or something more than a mutual rub n tug agreement i would say fuck him and he belongs in jail.
With Dan, I want him gone whether that lady is lying or not.
Am I making sense? It’s hard sometimes to translate thoughts to posts. Lol.

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You make sense to me.

I don't think anyone wants to bring a sexual predator here to be the savior at QB. There's a difference between being a sleaze ball and being a sexual predator. Unfortunately, we don't know if either DS or DW are sleaze balls, or if they are legit sexual predators, willing to use their money and influence to take advantage of women. Which is why I will reserve my thoughts on DW coming here until his legal situation plays out - completely.

Right now he's not on my list of QBs I'm willing to deal for. I may have a package in mind, but am in no way ready to make the phone call.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1311276]You make sense to me.

I don't think anyone wants to bring a sexual predator here to be the savior at QB. There's a difference between being a sleaze ball and being a sexual predator. Unfortunately, we don't know if either DS or DW are sleaze balls, or if they are legit sexual predators, willing to use their money and influence to take advantage of women. [B]Which is why I will reserve my thoughts on DW coming here until his legal situation plays out - completely.[/B]

Right now he's not on my list of QBs I'm willing to deal for. I may have a package in mind, but am in no way ready to make the phone call.[/quote]

Definitely. No way the team should try to trade for him until EVERY CASE is legally finalized. And the league makes a decision on his suspension. If he has to miss all of next year too, I'd pass regardless of anything else.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1311246]Another list....

[B]Ranking ten viable veteran QB options for Washington[/B]

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/2/25/22947576/ranking-ten-viable-veteran-qb-options-for-washington[/url]

My gut tells me when it's all said and done, it's going to be Trubisky, Mariota, or Garappolo.

Prepare yourselves...[/quote]

[B]Where they rank[/B]

Mitchell Trubisky - No, he is a dud.

Marcus Mariota - Possibly, if he is a bridge to a promising rookie.

Deshaun Watson - Don't the Commanders have enough of a sleazy reputation already? No.

Jimmy Garoppolo - Sure, why not? We could try to mimic the SF offense.

Teddy Bridgewater - Come on, man! This is a serious topic. No.

Carson Wentz - He's done. He's a choker with the leadership qualities of a dead fish.

Jameis Winston - OK, now we're talking about someone who can play QB! A qualified maybe, only because he has been hurt so much.

Russell Wilson - Yes, please! We could contend with him at QB.

Tua Tagovailoa - No. He hasn't developed very well, IMO.

Aaron Rodgers - He can pick where he goes and it won't be here. So, there is no chance.

So, my list would look like this:

1. Russell Wilson - by a mile!
2. Jimmy Garappolo
3. Marcus Mariota
4. Jameis Winston