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I'm scratching my head on the 2nd round pick. Maybe he was higher on their boards than what anyone thought. I would have liked s or mlb like others have said. We addressed receiver with not doctson, and qb with wentz.. other biggest needs are s and mlb. So I don't totally get why we don't bolster those positions.
I like the rb pick. A lot. It's something I was hoping to see. I don't think Gibson is the dude. The fumbles, likely, won't stop. I like him, but it's a huge liability. And while there's never a good time to turn it over, he seemingly does it at the absolute worst times. So I'm happy to get another rb, and his possible replacement. I know they are saying short yardage back, but I think he will be more if it pans out.

That 2nd rounder though. What the hell

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[quote=calia;1315868]Concerned about the middle of our D -- MLB and S are areas of real need. I rather view the picks we've made so far as nice to haves more than anything else. Sure, a great WR will help, but I would be interested to see if a healthy Curtis Samuel and 2nd year Dyami Brown is enough to supplement McLaurin when combined with a QB that can push the ball down the field -- which we simply didn't have last year. Sure, a good between the tackles RB is nice to have, although we have Gibson, JDM, and Patterson (who the coaches said could be a good short yardage back). And sure, after losing Matty I and Settle, getting another rotation piece on the DL is helpful.

But I don't see these needs as being as acute as the need for FS and MLB help where our current options are clearly holding us back. Now maybe this draft reflects a mentality of the BPA and not focusing on need. [I][B]But I don't think so -- as much as I am interested to see Dotson's potential, do folks really think he was the BPA at 14 (the pick we had) or 16 (the pick we made)?[/B][/I]

This draft feels a little aimless to me. Obviously, until guys suit up and start playing, no one really knows whether we've done well or not. But unless the folks we've drafted so far are lights out in their respective positions, I will wonder whether trying to hit on FS and MLB would have done more to help us contend than what we've done.[/quote]

Agree. When we see reaches seems like we are going need and not following a board.

Jamin Davis was the choice last year…a guy who pulled off the field late last year, losing snaps to David Mayo.

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Jaymin Davis will be better this year , he’s got to be. The issue is , we needed Secondary help and OL help (depth) You take a RB after you just resigned JDM… that’s odd to me. Maybe they view Robinson as a better overall runner than AG.


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AG has 2 years left on his rookie deal, maybe looking for a new contract next year, to some degree I think they are planning ahead. Same with Mathis re Payne, but I think they kind of screwed up the Payne issue.

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1315885]AG has 2 years left on his rookie deal, maybe looking for a new contract next year, to some degree I think they are planning ahead. Same with Mathis re Payne, but I think they kind of screwed up the Payne issue.[/QUOTE]


Maybe it’s also a wake up call to AG, the fumbles are a huge issue. He also doesn’t see the holes as quickly but again he was a WR… hell switch him back to WR?


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1. Dotson- Good player, I felt we could’ve traded down again and still got him in the 20’s, but nonetheless a good pick.

2. Mathis- *In my opinion* was the worst pick; given that Matt I, and Settle were both Day 3 picks (5th rounders). Could’ve addressed DL depth today. MLB, and FS were bigger needs and Dean, Muma, and Brisker were all available at 47.

3. Robinson- I like the pick. Gibson has a fumbling problem; and has been inconsistent.

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[quote=vallin21;1315888]1. Dotson- Good player, I felt we could’ve traded down again and still got him in the 20’s, but nonetheless a good pick.

2. Mathis- *In my opinion* was the worst pick; given that Matt I, and Settle were both Day 3 picks (5th rounders). Could’ve addressed DL depth today. MLB, and FS were bigger needs and Dean, Muma, and Brisker were all available at 47.

3. Robinson- I like the pick. Gibson has a fumbling problem; and has been inconsistent.[/quote]

Pretty much agree with this.

A 2nd round pick should be a solid starter if not from day 1 - and we picked up a rotational DT who might be a starter if they are able to trade Payne - which everybody knows we'll be trying to trade now so we don't lose him on the cheap next year.

Meanwhile we still have an absolute massive hole at MLB which is a premium defensive position because it's the defensive playcaller. And you can't expect a 4th round or later pick to come in from day 1 and be your defensive playcaller.

I don't mind the Robinson or Dotson picks, but Mathis is questionable.

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[quote=mooby;1315889]Pretty much agree with this.

A 2nd round pick should be a solid starter if not from day 1 - and we picked up a rotational DT who might be a starter if they are able to trade Payne - which everybody knows we'll be trying to trade now so we don't lose him on the cheap next year.

Meanwhile we still have an absolute massive hole at MLB which is a premium defensive position because it's the defensive playcaller. And you can't expect a 4th round or later pick to come in from day 1 and be your defensive playcaller.

I don't mind the Robinson or Dotson picks, but Mathis is questionable.[/quote]


That's exactly how I feel

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Not a real big fan of the Robinson pick. Not that he isn't a good player cause he is. But I'm just not a fan of slow, road grading 3 yards and a cloud of dust type of backs. It's outdated. With the way the game is now you need backs, all of the backs should have pass catching skills and route running ability. They should be able to be split out and catch passes. The exception is Derek Henry, but give me Cam Akers, Edwards Helaire, Dalvin Cook, McCaffrey types.

I felt we were fine at RB and if you really needed a bruiser then get one in the 6th or 7th round or as a undrafted FA. Or sign a free agent on the cheap like you did w/ Barber. Very easy position to fill.

But if Robinson turns out to be Henry then forget everything I said.. lol.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1315893]Not a real big fan of the Robinson pick. Not that he isn't a good player cause he is. But I'm just not a fan of slow, road grading 3 yards and a cloud of dust type of backs. It's outdated. With the way the game is now you need backs, all of the backs should have pass catching skills and route running ability. They should be able to be split out and catch passes. The exception is Derek Henry, but give me Cam Akers, Edwards Helaire, Dalvin Cook, McCaffrey types.

I felt we were fine at RB and if you really needed a bruiser then get one in the 6th or 7th round or as a undrafted FA. Or sign a free agent on the cheap like you did w/ Barber. Very easy position to fill.

But if Robinson turns out to be Henry then forget everything I said.. lol.[/quote]

Rivera still thinks it's 1985.

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I’m beginning to like the Mathis pick, from everything I’ve read is that he kept improving every year and could be dominant with coaching and hitting the weight room. [url]https://www.pff.com/news/draft-top-five-interior-defensive-linemen-2022-nfl-draft-galina[/url]

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1315885]AG has 2 years left on his rookie deal, maybe looking for a new contract next year, to some degree I think they are planning ahead. Same with Mathis re Payne, but I think they kind of screwed up the Payne issue.[/quote]


Looking ahead at RB? You draft rookies when you need one. We didn't need one so the pick really doesn't make sense (Hey at least it wasn't a reach).

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[quote=nonniey;1315896]Looking ahead at RB? You draft rookies when you need one. We didn't need one so the pick really doesn't make sense (Hey at least it wasn't a reach).[/quote]

I don't disagree, just trying to understand what they are thinking, if in fact they are thinking

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1315895]I’m beginning to like the Mathis pick, from everything I’ve read is that he kept improving every year and could be dominant with coaching and hitting the weight room. [url]https://www.pff.com/news/draft-top-five-interior-defensive-linemen-2022-nfl-draft-galina[/url][/QUOTE]Seems like the notion that we reached by drafting Mathis in the 2nd round is overblown.

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With the 8th pick in the 4th round we selected (S) Percy Butler of Louisiana.

ESPN's pre draft analysis:

Butler is a lean safety with average length and outstanding timed speed. He closes quickly breaking on passes in front of him, and he's fluid enough to compete in man-to-man coverage. He looked good tracking, adjusting and high-pointing the ball at the combine. Butler comes in too hot and slips off tackles in run support. His release and speed make him an outstanding gunner on special teams. -- Steve Muench

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Chris Simms
@CSimmsQB
· 3m
The @Commanders got the best pure free safety in the nfl draft in Percy Butler. Dude has tremendous range in center field. He is very good in all areas of coverage. Let alone he has 3 rockets up his butt and can fly. He is not all coverage he is a very good tackler too

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[quote=skinsfan69;1315893]Not a real big fan of the Robinson pick. Not that he isn't a good player cause he is. But I'm just not a fan of slow, road grading 3 yards and a cloud of dust type of backs. It's outdated. With the way the game is now you need backs, all of the backs should have pass catching skills and route running ability. They should be able to be split out and catch passes. The exception is Derek Henry, but give me Cam Akers, Edwards Helaire, Dalvin Cook, McCaffrey types.

I felt we were fine at RB and if you really needed a bruiser then get one in the 6th or 7th round or as a undrafted FA. Or sign a free agent on the cheap like you did w/ Barber. Very easy position to fill.

But if Robinson turns out to be Henry then forget everything I said.. lol.[/quote]

The thing about RB is within the unit you need guys who fill roles. Now we have a thumper to get tough yards and run between the tackles. Doesn’t fumble either. I think it was a smart pick and now that unit is improved.

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If Howell is there, take him!!

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Most are saying he’s a great RB so maybe they found a diamond in the 3rd again… we’ll see


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[quote=EdmundDorf;1315900]Chris Simms
@CSimmsQB
· 3m
The @Commanders got the best pure free safety in the nfl draft in Percy Butler. Dude has tremendous range in center field. He is very good in all areas of coverage. Let alone he has 3 rockets up his butt and can fly. He is not all coverage he is a very good tackler too[/quote]

Yup. This is a good pick. He is a special team gunner and excels there.

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Traded 120 to the Panthers

Field Yates
@FieldYates
· 2m
The Commanders trade: Pick 120, 189

The Panthers trade: Pick 144, 149

1st and 6th picks of 5th round

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[url]https://twitter.com/csimmsqb/status/1520441741161254912?s=21&t=WYChmDVa639aJmY-nXJ1vQ[/url]


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Ok I'm getting real concerned about who we have running the draft. Another trade where we gave up more value that we got back (We lost the 1st round trade as well) - (Silver lining - not as bad as the Vikings losing in trade value in the 1st so could be worse which was the worst I've seen in years, maybe ever).

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Depends on which trade chart you use, and the value is different in every draft. They seem to think there is value in the fifth round.

Don't get me wrong, I am not at all a fan of our front office, but draft pick value is relative so it is difficult to say one team won or lost, draft picks are worth what someone else will pay for them

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1315908]Depends on which trade chart you use, and the value is different in every draft. They seem to think there is value in the fifth round[/quote]

Every trade chart I've found so far.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1315893]Not a real big fan of the Robinson pick. Not that he isn't a good player cause he is. But I'm just not a fan of slow, road grading 3 yards and a cloud of dust type of backs. It's outdated. With the way the game is now you need backs, all of the backs should have pass catching skills and route running ability. They should be able to be split out and catch passes. The exception is Derek Henry, but give me Cam Akers, Edwards Helaire, Dalvin Cook, McCaffrey types.

I felt we were fine at RB and if you really needed a bruiser then get one in the 6th or 7th round or as a undrafted FA. Or sign a free agent on the cheap like you did w/ Barber. Very easy position to fill.

But if Robinson turns out to be Henry then forget everything I said.. lol.[/quote]

He runs a 4.5 40, for a guy his size that's pretty fast, plus he can catch

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Love the Percy Butler pick. Finally have a safety with the speed to possibly play single high.

Nicely done!

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If you just forget the coulda woulda shoulda it looks like we've added four very good football players, so far.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1315912]If you just forget the coulda woulda shoulda it looks like we've added four very good football players, so far.[/quote]

Guys that should all have significant roles right away too

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1315911]Love the Percy Butler pick. Finally have a safety with the speed to possibly play single high.

Nicely done![/quote]

Apke has speed. Just saying.

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Lulz @ apke who somehow is still here

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I know it’s not a need, but I watched a lot of UNC games, and I so badly want Howell here with a 5th rounder.

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C'mon Tariq Wooten or a QB here!!

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1315916]I know it’s not a need, but I watched a lot of UNC games, and I so badly want Howell here with a 5th rounder.[/quote]

There you go!!

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Fucking A!! Yes!!

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For the value that’s a steal


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1315918]There you go!![/quote]

Amazing! If Carson doesn’t work out, Sam could be the guy a year from now.

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[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic;1315921]Amazing! If Carson doesn’t work out, Sam could be the guy a year from now.[/QUOTE]


Exactly this


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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1315902]If Howell is there, take him!![/QUOTE]


Your wish is their Command.


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1315920]For the value that’s a steal


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Amazing value. I like this pick where it happened in the draft.