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I actually wouldn't mind it if I could listen to Doc Walker call all the Washington games this year. I don't think he's trying to be someone he's not, tough guy or whatever. He is a homer for sure, but he doesn't pull any punches, just tells it like it is (how he sees it). I thought he was both critical and complementary. I'd much rather listen to him than a number of other guys I'll be forced to listen to this year, like Aqib Talib...

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AG with the fumbles man, can't believe this is still an issue for him. Robinson is going to steal carries from him early and often. I'd put Robinson on the preseason shelf. He looks good, I think the coaches know what they have in him, no need to risk him further.

Loved the new uniforms especially the helmets.

Wentz looked solid. Howell looked great but we've seen QBs tear it up against backups before. So I'm keeping my hype level low on him.

I really like Jonathan Williams but where does he fit on the regular season roster?

Love Doc Walker when it comes to him being a guest on podcasts and stuff, in the booth though? Eh, way too much of a homer. I get it, it's preseason and he does make me laugh at times, I just like him in a different setting.

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Wentz ran the offense very well, that's a great sign.. TBH He looked much better than Matt Ryan did and NFLN pointed that out too.

Howell was awesome but he also had 2 dropped INTS.. But... He looks like a freaking Russell Wilson clone doesn't he??

OLINE and DLINE were very good

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[quote=MTK;1319575]AG with the fumbles man, can't believe this is still an issue for him. Robinson is going to steal carries from him early and often. I'd put Robinson on the preseason shelf. He looks good, I think the coaches know what they have in him, no need to risk him further.

Loved the new uniforms especially the helmets.

Wentz looked solid. Howell looked great but we've seen QBs tear it up against backups before. So I'm keeping my hype level low on him.

I really like Jonathan Williams but where does he fit on the regular season roster?

Love Doc Walker when it comes to him being a guest on podcasts and stuff, in the booth though? Eh, way too much of a homer. I get it, it's preseason and he does make me laugh at times, I just like him in a different setting.[/quote]

spot on.

I take SH over TH though for spot QB2, if Wentz goes down lets see what sam can do. TH i am sorry is just not a NFL QB.

And the Doc commentary was painful, he is not polished at all, i guess that is why some folks liked him.

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Another thing I read about was the 3rd down defense, struggled again with the starters. Nothing to get worked up about but this is similar to AG fumbles last year…it’s still happening

Another coaching move if the defense starts slow, JDR goes and Chris Harris gets his opportunity with Ron assisting him

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Mathis looked good on the interior, dude is strong as an ox and pretty athletic

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D -Mayfield went 3/4 on 3rd down conversions on their first drive, 2 being passes and the one failed conversion came off Baker fumbling the snap the play before setting up a 3rd and 14.

1st set - 3rd and 3 ... pass for 19 yards
2nd set - 3rd and 3 .. run up middle for 5
3rd set - 3rd and 5 ... pass for 15 yards

31st last year in 3rd down D and I imagine 32nd in 3rd down pass coverage D.

Wentz - showed he can identify and make some throws Heinike cant. Made some quick decisions. Went 10/13 and 2 of the incompletions were 1 on 1, give your guy a chance balls that he slightly underthrew.

O Line - looked good but who knows

I didnt watch the 2nd half.

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Doc Walker - his old man schtick is fine, Id rather have it during a game vs his radio show (radio was unbearable) and unless we get Cooley or Paulsen, I dont have much hope for an analytical color commentator for local broadcasts.

Kind annoying when we held them to back to back 2 yard runs and he said back to back "not good enough" .... dude, we had a bottom 10 defense last year and the Panthers were rolling on us.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319574]I actually wouldn't mind it if I could listen to Doc Walker call all the Washington games this year. I don't think he's trying to be someone he's not, tough guy or whatever. He is a homer for sure, but he doesn't pull any punches, just tells it like it is (how he sees it). I thought he was both critical and complementary. I'd much rather listen to him than a number of other guys I'll be forced to listen to this year, like Aqib Talib...[/quote]

Jesus if Talib does any of our games I will just turn the sound down. He is perhaps the worst person color analyst I have ever heard. Ever.

Julie, Weinstein and now Fletcher will be really bad but not as bad.

We are a real long way from Frank, Sonny and Sam / Madden and Summerall. :-(

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[quote=MTK;1319580]Mathis looked good on the interior, dude is strong as an ox and pretty athletic[/quote]Our interior run defense should be phenomenal with Mathis, Payne, and Allen. Good luck running through those guys.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1319588]Our interior run defense should be phenomenal with Mathis, Payne, and Allen. Good luck running through those guys.[/quote]

Wise looked pretty good also.

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S Parker had a 90 Grade Saturday.. Prob won't last but he was all over the place

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1319595]S Parker had a 90 Grade Saturday.. Prob won't last but he was all over the place[/quote]Yes he was. I thought the exact same thing watching the game. He was a stud here at OU. A leader with great energy.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1319596]Yes he was. I thought the exact same thing watching the game. He was a stud here at OU. A leader with great energy.[/quote]

Hopefully he's a late bloomer

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I'm late, had to catch a replay.

Wentz's ball placement looks good. I know 2-3 required the WR to make a play, but I saw a good QB performance. TH had a bad night. Howell looked like a rookie (but not bad playing against garbage)... took off to run too quickly, missed a couple things. not awful, and the play where he definitely did need to break out of the pocket, and then stopped to throw downfield gives hope that he could do the things a good NFL QB needs to do.

looks like we have a better option at RB.

Doc sucked on the telecast. talking about how giving up 4 yards on 1st and 10 on the first play of the game is unacceptable, or about how we need a hero and everything is going Carolina's way (when they're up 3-0 in a meaningless game)... shockingly bad, and I generally do like him on radio. Silence would have been much better.

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I want to see get Dotson more in the mix Saturday at KC. Know we're hearing great reports but that's practice. Him getting at least a few catches in a real game (although preseason) would be good to see. Really want to see the 3rd down defense also improve. Quite interested to see how Rivera/Turner treats the backs. Robinson/Patterson looked legit. I still maintain Patterson is underrated. Kid has quick feet and appears to be a natural runner.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1319595]S Parker had a 90 Grade Saturday.. Prob won't last but he was all over the place[/quote]

I liked the way Parker played with passion. If he gets a fair shot, he might surprise.

Speaking of safeties, Percy Butler is loaded with closing speed and talent. He may become a very good FS in time.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1319619]I want to see get Dotson more in the mix Saturday at KC. Know we're hearing great reports but that's practice. Him getting at least a few catches in a real game (although preseason) would be good to see. Really want to see the 3rd down defense also improve. Quite interested to see how Rivera/Turner treats the backs. Robinson/Patterson looked legit. [B]I still maintain Patterson is underrated. Kid has quick feet and appears to be a natural runner.[/B][/quote]

Patterson has had great coaching since he played youth football and he has played the position for a long time. The same is true of Robinson. AG is blessed with exceptional ability but he is definitely behind the other RBs in terms of learning to play the RB position.

There is a ton of talent in the RB room when you add in McKissic and Jonathan Williams.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1319638]Patterson has had great coaching since he played youth football and he has played the position for a long time. The same is true of Robinson. AG is blessed with exceptional ability but he is definitely behind the other RBs in terms of learning to play the RB position.

There is a ton of talent in the RB room when you add in McKissic and Jonathan Williams.[/quote]Agreed. Also liked what I saw from Williams in the game. We all know how good McKissic is and Commanders are fortunate to have retained him this season.