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calia 02-23-2023 11:23 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
After the presser, Terry and EB met to talk about expectations. It was frigging amazing. They’re both totally stoked to work together. It’s on the team’s Instagram (which I am generally never on but it was worth it).


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skinsfaninok 02-24-2023 09:50 AM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[quote=calia;1338465]After the presser, Terry and EB met to talk about expectations. It was frigging amazing. They’re both totally stoked to work together. It’s on the team’s Instagram (which I am generally never on but it was worth it).


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I am drinking that Kool Aid again.. should I stop?

Giantone 02-24-2023 10:03 AM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
IMPO , you move RR up stairs and make EB your HC.

calia 02-24-2023 10:08 AM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1338466]I am drinking that Kool Aid again.. should I stop?[/QUOTE]


I’m waiting for the team to be sold. And then I’ll guzzle it like my life depends on it.


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punch it in 02-24-2023 10:14 AM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;1338468]IMPO , you move RR up stairs and make EB your HC.[/QUOTE]


Was thinking the same thing. Except downstairs in a mop closet.

punch it in 02-24-2023 10:16 AM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1338457]The presser today makes the notion that he doesn't interview well even more strange. He's a great communicator.[/QUOTE]


Yeah clearly it has been a combination of being in Reids shadow and skin color. If he was white and/or Reid was a Defensive minded coach he would most certainly be a HC somewhere. It is pretty fucking obvious and pretty fucking sad.

Chief X_Phackter 02-24-2023 10:40 AM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
I obviously never sat in on an interview with him so I can't speak to how he does there, but if that press conference was any indication, those reports seem to be a stretch. I also don't buy into "being in Reid's shadow" as a legitimate reason, as there are other OCs who served under Reid and went on to be Head Coaches.

It could also be this stuff:

[I]Lost in his success with the Kansas City Chiefs is Eric Bieniemy’s rap sheet of poor decision-making:

February 1998: According to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, Colorado police arrested Bieniemy and teammate Kanavis McGhee after a bar fight. Bieniemy was charged with disorderly conduct and fighting in public, but he pleaded no contest. He and McGhee received deferred sentences and performed court-mandated community service.

July 4, 1990: According to the Orlando Sentinel, Bienemy pleaded no contest after allegedly shoving a firefighter. The University of Colorado Boulder suspended Bieniemy for one game in the upcoming season.

September 1993: Colorado police arrested Bieniemy, then in the NFL. The Orlando Sentinel reports that Bieniemy allegedly grabbed a female parking attendant by the neck and threatened her. The University of Colorado Boulder banned Bieniemy from its campus for one year as a result.

April 2001: According to the Daily Bruin, Colorado police arrested Bieniemy on a DUI charge, three months after he joined the football staff as a running back coach. He previously had his driver’s license suspended after numerous violations.

Bieniemy was also linked to allegations that Colorado’s football program “used alcohol and sex to lure recruits.” ESPN reported in 2004 that the university discovered there was evidence of drugs and alcohol being used to “entice recruits,” but no university officials were guilty of misconduct.[/I]

[url]https://www.sportscasting.com/chiefs-oc-eric-bieniemys-troubling-rap-sheet-includes-a-disturbing-assault-charge-against-a-woman/[/url]

It's all 20+ years ago, but still something for owner's to consider when hiring someone to be the leader of a team of young men.

He has a clean slate here and the offense is all his. If the offense performs up to or exceeds expectations, and he doesn't get himself into trouble, he should be a Head Coach somewhere in the next couple years.

skinsfaninok 02-24-2023 10:46 AM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[quote=Giantone;1338468]IMPO , you move RR up stairs and make EB your HC.[/quote]

I agree with this

Ruhskins 02-24-2023 12:08 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[quote=Giantone;1338468]IMPO , you move RR up stairs and make EB your HC.[/quote]

Honestly, after going through cancer, the death of his mom, and having to go through the worst of the Snyder fuckery, it would not surprise me if Ron steps down after having some success under a new owner.

MTK 02-24-2023 03:27 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[quote=punch it in;1338471]Yeah clearly it has been a combination of being in Reids shadow and skin color. If he was white and/or Reid was a Defensive minded coach he would most certainly be a HC somewhere. It is pretty fucking obvious and pretty fucking sad.[/quote]

The race angle doesn’t seem to hold much water since some of the jobs he was passed over for ended up going to minority coaches

punch it in 02-24-2023 08:13 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1338491]The race angle doesn’t seem to hold much water since some of the jobs he was passed over for ended up going to minority coaches[/QUOTE]


But with his strong resume the “right” color might not have hurt. I think it is part of it. Unfortunately.

sdskinsfan2001 02-24-2023 08:31 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
Would be cool if Bieniemy becomes a great HC somewhere after getting his 1st chance to call plays full-time here.

We don't often get stuff to be proud of around here. That would be something.

I haven't listened to his press conference yet, but I trust your opinions. Sounds like nothing but positives to take away from it.

mredskins 02-24-2023 09:39 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1338501]Would be cool if Bieniemy becomes a great HC somewhere after getting his 1st chance to call plays full-time here.

[B]We don't often get stuff to be proud of around here.[/B] That would be something.

I haven't listened to his press conference yet, but I trust your opinions. Sounds like nothing but positives to take away from it.[/quote]

Kyle S and Sean M are disappointed in you

sdskinsfan2001 02-24-2023 10:13 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[quote=mredskins;1338503]Kyle S and Sean M are disappointed in you[/quote]

Them both leaving, and I'd throw O'Connell in there too, were embarrassments to our franchise. We let them all leave when we could have promoted them.

Bieniemy actually received a promotion to come here.

That Guy 02-24-2023 10:57 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
presser to me was just all coach speak, not that it really matters. He didn't bomb it, but I don't think it's intellectually honest to say he'd go from a yearly SB contender to a bit of a garbage fire because he wanted a challenge (it's because no one wanted him as their HC, and reid was looking to give OC back to nagy. I guess, what is he supposed to say? "It wasn't my time, but I'm here now and committeed to this team" maybe?). If the players buy-in and we can get over 20 points a game, great. We'll have to wait to see though.

skinsfan69 02-25-2023 09:24 AM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[quote=That Guy;1338507]presser to me was just all coach speak, not that it really matters. He didn't bomb it, but I don't think it's intellectually honest to say he'd go from a yearly SB contender to a bit of a garbage fire because he wanted a challenge (it's because no one wanted him as their HC, and reid was looking to give OC back to nagy. I guess, what is he supposed to say? "It wasn't my time, but I'm here now and committeed to this team" maybe?). If the players buy-in and we can get over 20 points a game, great. We'll have to wait to see though.[/quote]

It was almost like Reid couldn't wait to get EB out the door and promote Nagy. Wondering if Reid called up Ron and asked for a favor.

That Guy 02-25-2023 04:55 PM

Re: Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1338516]It was almost like Reid couldn't wait to get EB out the door and promote Nagy. Wondering if Reid called up Ron and asked for a favor.[/quote]

part of the coaching circle is that you come in, you work hard, and you get rewarded, which means promotion to OC/DC and eventually a HC gig. If someone sticks around too long, it kind of gums that up.

I do think EB is the best guy we could get, and he's probably better than turner, but I'm also definitely in the don't tell me, show me camp (and he'll get his chance).


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