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[quote=punch it in;1358749]So Trump is ordering his Republican servants to block the border bill because

A) politics over policy AKA staying out of jail is more important than anything that has to do with our country (i know i know America first [emoji23])

B) it is a bad bill for putin especially when comrade Carlson is going over there to show his followers that Putin is a smart decent guy

C) he is simply a moron

D) all of the above[/quote]

Honestly thought he would be in jail by now.

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I had been wondering why the civil trial for damages had not concluded. Well it seems Alan Weisselberg may be in talks about a plea deal on a perjury charge regarding his testimony in the original trial. Judge has delayed his ruling until this is resolved. If he does plead guilty this can't be good news for old Donnie with regard thee punishment is company will absorb.


I could have sworn he campaigned on the promise to drain the swamp of corruption. If he pleads guilty how many Trump people have now been convicted or plead to felonies?* I have honestly lost count.

.*[url]https://apnews.com/article/trump-weisselberg-engoron-perjury-civil-fraud-4d598852ee1cafa7ef9976452b42e6a2[/url]

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1358788]I had been wondering why the civil trial for damages had not concluded. Well it seems Alan Weisselberg may be in talks about a plea deal on a perjury charge regarding his testimony in the original trial. Judge has delayed his ruling until this is resolved. If he does plead guilty this can't be good news for old Donnie with regard thee punishment is company will absorb.


I could have sworn he campaigned on the promise to drain the swamp of corruption. If he pleads guilty how many Trump people have now been convicted or plead to felonies?* I have honestly lost count.

.*[url]https://apnews.com/article/trump-weisselberg-engoron-perjury-civil-fraud-4d598852ee1cafa7ef9976452b42e6a2[/url][/quote]

Trump is easily the most corrupt President in history. Can't get swampier than him. Doesn't matter though, as MAGA has become a full-blown cult whose members believe he can do no wrong.

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[quote=nonniey;1358790]Trump is easily the most corrupt President in history. Can't get swampier than him. Doesn't matter though, as MAGA has become a full-blown cult whose members believe he can do no wrong.[/quote]

As a new poster I have to admit that I looked over the posts before engaging. I was glad to see most here are sensible, I've grown a bit tired of the Trump Cult people.

But all this probably belongs in the Trump Trials thread.

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[quote=nonniey;1357719]Almost as bad as Trump and Vivek. I know Haley doesn't have a chance, but she would make by far a better President than anyone that ran or still is running this cycle.[/quote]


I think she's a coward, but I'd agree with your statement. At least Chris Christie had the balls to man up and call shit like it was when he entered the race.

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Damn, Haley lost against "None of these People" in the race...lol

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/nikki-haley-loses-nevada-republican-primary-to-none-of-these-candidates-052955016.html[/url]

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It's all about the write-in vote. Wow, Haley, just drop out of the race and stop wasting people's money. Talk about part of the swamp. Raking in cash with a 0% chance of actually winning anything besides a train ticket back to S.C.

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[quote=nonniey;1358752]It's A. If somehow Trump becomes President he won't get a border bill as good as the one they are shooting down right now. I guess MAGA prefers the open borders we have now (Make no mistake that Biden mostly created) over the Bill which would actually have shut down the border over the last 4 months if it had been in effect.

It would be as if a ship captain stupidly ran onto the rocks and his opponents on the ship decided to prevent any effort to reduce flooding, because while the ship is sinking it hurts the captain.[/quote]

With all that is going on , him shooting down the Boarder deal, Abortion issue and his criminal trials I still don't understand how his maga cult can follow him. Not a Biden fan and would take Nicki Haley over any of them , is she the best ,no but better then the others I hope she can stay in long enough till trump goes to jail.

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Imagine being so fucking dumb to think Biden didn’t create the border crisis. He doesn’t need a bill to stop illegals…he has to apply the laws on the books.

I’ll have to post Bill Meliguen thread which lays out specific policies Biden enacted which caused the crisis.

Sad we actually ignore policy and point the finger out a guy out of office for 3 years. Pathetic and weak

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[quote=Chico23231;1358865]Imagine being so fucking dumb to think Biden didn’t create the border crisis. He doesn’t need a bill to stop illegals…he has to apply the laws on the books.

Sad we actually ignore policy and point the finger out a guy out of office for 3 years. Pathetic and weak[/quote]

You're right no illegals ever came across before Biden came into Office! You don't think a Bill that both sides want and negotiated and need and is indorsed by the Boarder Agents i s needed. Pretty ignorant of you.

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[quote=Chico23231;1358865]Imagine being so fucking dumb to think Biden didn’t create the border crisis. He doesn’t need a bill to stop illegals…he has to apply the laws on the books.

I’ll have to post Bill Meliguen thread which lays out specific policies Biden enacted which caused the crisis.

Sad we actually ignore policy and point the finger out a guy out of office for 3 years. Pathetic and weak[/quote]

Who said Biden didn't create what is largely going on at the border?? My post specifically stated he did, in fact, cause what we have now. Under Trump, the courts prevented him from enacting several boarder control measures because he didn't have the authority (Specifically with asylum seekers which the vast majority are now). This bill would have given more authority to the President and Border patrol to close the border and turn away the majority of those seeking asylum. More importantly catch and release would have ended.

Sinema (You know the Sen the Dems hate??) pointed out the border shutdown would have already triggered if the Bill had passed and the 20K asylum seekers that crossed since the bill was stopped would have been prevented from crossing.

The Bill was stopped because Trump knows how bad the border is benefits him for the election. True, Biden can become as restrictive as Trump was, but that wasn't and isn't good enough to stop the flow (example more crossed under Trump than Obama until the 2020 pandemic closed migration worldwide). Bottomline, even if Trump gets back in he won't be able to match what this bill would have done. But as usual it is Trump before country for him and his supporters.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1358792]As a new poster I have to admit that I looked over the posts before engaging. I was glad to see most here are sensible, I've grown a bit tired of the Trump Cult people.

But all this probably belongs in the Trump Trials thread.[/quote]

Well, there is one complete jackass that posts here, who is even worse than the boards sole Trump supporter. He's is very anti-Trump, but ironically is the most Trump like of anyone I have ever seen posting on social media.

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[quote=nonniey;1358877]Well, there is one complete jackass that posts here, who is even worse than the boards sole Trump supporter. He's is very anti-Trump, but ironically is the most Trump like of anyone I have ever seen posting on social media.[/quote]

[IMG]https://24.media.tumblr.com/ac1df762078e2edc112400271e42f164/tumblr_n4yxtlW5gx1rbc9h1o1_500.gif[/IMG]

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[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/second-mixup-week-biden-talks-meeting-dead-european-leaders-rcna137823[/url]

In his second mix-up this week, Biden talks about meeting with dead European leaders

Totally normal…same reason he done no interviews with the media and never takes any questions from the press. Dementia ridden and why the country is dealing with multiple crisis either at the border, can’t afford to put food on the table as rent, food and energy prices have hit all times highs, first time homebuyers can’t afford the market and war in Ukraine and Middle East.

He can’t do the job. Biden and only Biden has lead us to this point. Also a reminder the Democrats held both houses in Congress and the Presidency the first 2 years….they did this together folks.

Enjoy what you voted for.

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[quote=Chico23231;1358921][url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/second-mixup-week-biden-talks-meeting-dead-european-leaders-rcna137823[/url]

In his second mix-up this week, Biden talks about meeting with dead European leaders

Totally normal…same reason he done no interviews with the media and never takes any questions from the press. Dementia ridden and why the country is dealing with multiple crisis either at the border, can’t afford to put food on the table as rent, food and energy prices have hit all times highs, first time homebuyers can’t afford the market and war in Ukraine and Middle East.

He can’t do the job. Biden and only Biden has lead us to this point. Also a reminder the Democrats held both houses in Congress and the Presidency the first 2 years….they did this together folks.

Enjoy what you voted for.[/quote]




LOL, chico covering for trump throwing rocks at his own house!

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/politics/trump-verbal-slip-ups/index.html[/url]

Trump took the stage in Sioux City, Iowa, and mistakenly thanked supporters for coming out to Sioux Falls, South Dakota, before an Iowa state senator tried to discreetly correct him — a moment that was caught on a hot mic.

During a summit in Washington, DC, Trump claimed that Biden could “plunge the world into World War II” – which ended nearly 80 years ago – and appeared to confuse Biden and former President Barack Obama, saying he was leading Obama in election polls.

The recent missteps have created an unwelcome wrinkle for Trump, his campaign team and the larger Republican political apparatus. Republicans have questioned whether Biden is able to serve as commander-in-chief, pointing to his age and mental fitness. But their own primary front-runner seems to be suffering the same predicament, making their argument less potent.

Trump incorrectly said Viktor Orbán, the prime minister of Hungary, was the prime minister of Turkey – he quickly corrected that error. He has repeatedly mispronounced Hamas (huh-maas), the name of the Palestinian militant group that launched a deadly terror attack on Israel, as hummus.

And, during a rally in South Carolina in September, Trump confused former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, one of Trump’s 2016 GOP rivals, with his brother, former President George W. Bush

“When I came here, everyone thought Bush was going to win,” he said at that rally.
“They thought Bush because Bush supposedly was a military person… he got us into the, uh, he got us into the Middle East. How did that work out, right?”

Trump’s rivals have been working to capitalize on his latest set of unnecessary errors, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, whose presidential campaign has largely stalled under a barrage of attacks from the former president.

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Maybe the most embarrassing and pathetic press conference I’ve ever seen by a President

Resign

And then he confused leaders again for the 3rd time this week!

Disaster of a president, he is the reason this country is dealing with multiple crisis!

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I pulled up front page of Reddit…and nothing about Biden’s embarrassing day. Strange

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Biden is demonstrating more and more that he is mentally unfit to hold office. After today's report followed by his performance in the news conference the 25th amendment has to be considered. THis is going to lead to an even more unfit President replacing him if he isn't removed.

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I hope the GOP now use the same tactics as the Democrats did with the prior administration

1. Go full court press for the 25th amendment
2. Aggressively and unrelenting calls for the full release of the transcript of the special counsel Biden interview
3. Immediately get the special counsel in front of congress for testimony about the mental fitness of the President and ask why wasn’t he charged as he clearly broke the law.

Let’s play politics like the Dems

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[quote=Chico23231;1358969]I hope the GOP now use the same tactics as the Democrats did with the prior administration

1. Go full court press for the 25th amendment
2. Aggressively and unrelenting calls for the full release of the transcript of the special counsel Biden interview
3[B]. Immediately get the special counsel in front of congress for testimony about the mental fitness of the President and ask why wasn’t he charged as he clearly broke the law[/B].

Let’s play politics like the Dems[/quote]


As long as it can be done to trump,I'm fine with it.

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[quote=Giantone;1358977]As long as it can be done to trump,I'm fine with it.[/quote]

[IMG]https://media1.tenor.com/m/S2G-QZk-Vz0AAAAC/michael-jordan-laughing.gif[/IMG]

Never change bro…never change

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[quote=Chico23231;1358979][IMG]https://media1.tenor.com/m/S2G-QZk-Vz0AAAAC/michael-jordan-laughing.gif[/IMG]

Never change bro…never change[/quote]

Hell of a come back, trump must have taught you that at trump U.

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WTF is wrong with this Asshole?

[url]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-russia-attack-nato-allies_n_65c7e443e4b069b665dfb762[/url]


[B][SIZE="5"]Trump Says He Might 'Encourage' Russia To Attack NATO Allies
"You gotta pay your bills," said the former president notorious for not paying his own bill[/SIZE][/B]


Former President Donald Trump delivered an alarming message to U.S. allies during a Saturday rally where he outlined a scenario in which he would “encourage” Russia to “do whatever the hell they want” to other NATO members

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[quote=Chico23231;1358865]Imagine being so fucking dumb to think Biden didn’t create the border crisis. He doesn’t need a bill to stop illegals…he has to apply the laws on the books.

I’ll have to post Bill Meliguen thread which lays out specific policies Biden enacted which caused the crisis.

Sad we actually ignore policy and point the finger out a guy out of office for 3 years. Pathetic and weak[/quote]

You (and many other GOPers) keep parroting this bullshit. Let your fellow Republican Chip Roy (who is no moderate) tell you the actual truth about the border.

[url]https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1755073072623677628[/url]

Chico, I want to play this 3-4 times. This man was a hard supporter of Trump his first term. He's calling Trump and fellow Republicans on their blatant lies about the border.

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[url]https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1758509167168401611[/url]

Can you imagine the reaction if some Democrat (or any other party) candidate called up Senators/House and told them to kill a bill that would help fix a border issue just so he could run on that topic this coming November. Literally harm America so he can get elected.

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Lol, democrats love Romney now. I'm dead. The border has been a train wreck, purposely, my whole life, and somehow made even worse by Biden. But this magic bullshit bill, porked with more non-related border sausage then a pornstar's snatch was going to fix the border, right!!

The political threads are now just a liberal sub-reddit.

[IMG]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/587/277/d16.jpg[/IMG]

One world order globalist.

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Ah another post from the I'm not a republican political activist who blames it all on Biden ignores the reasonability of the Republicans in Congress who won't even read a Border Bill. Because it's election time, your new motto should be fuck the American people but don't blame me.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1359321]Lol, democrats love Romney now. I'm dead. The border has been a train wreck, purposely, my whole life, and somehow made even worse by Biden. But this magic bullshit bill, porked with more non-related border sausage then a pornstar's snatch was going to fix the border, right!!

The political threads are now just a liberal sub-reddit.

[IMG]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/587/277/d16.jpg[/IMG]

One world order globalist.[/quote]

One world order? Globalist? You are starting to sound like a MAGA. What happened? And it actually was a good bill, stronger than anything Trump could legally do on the border if he gets in and after the election the Dems will have no incentive or desire to pass a bill like this whether they win or lose. Make no mistake Biden absolutely wrecked the border and deserves most of the blame, but what Trump did, like he always does, is put himself before country. (Oh and that Pork? Ukraine, Israel and the Pacific security assistance were critical support to US interests - but again for Trump - it is fuck US interests mine are more important).

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1359321]Lol, democrats love Romney now. I'm dead. The border has been a train wreck, purposely, my whole life, and somehow made even worse by Biden. But this magic bullshit bill, porked with more non-related border sausage then a pornstar's snatch was going to fix the border, right!!


One world order globalist.[/quote]

Buddy, it ain't just Romney.

That bill was a Republican wish list they've been demanding for years. The Democrats finally gave it to them and they tanked their own fucking bill. This bill was wrote by a fucking Republican (Lankford).

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/02/08/border-security-gop-senate-congress-mcconnell-lankford/72495722007/[/url]


I'm not a liberal. In fact, I voted conservative up until the GOP went absolutely apeshit. Stop crying about everyone being liberal because they don't agree with or side with you. The cold hard truth is the Republicans have gone so far right of the middle, they aren't a serious party anymore.

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[quote=Giantone;1359331]Ah another post from the I'm not a republican political activist who blames it all on Biden ignores the reasonability of the Republicans in Congress who won't even read a Border Bill. Because it's election time, your new motto should be fuck the American people but don't blame me.[/quote]

"The border has been a train wreck, purposely, my whole life"

Well, unless Biden has been president for 40 fucking years, I didn't blame it all on him. But pretending like it hasn't been even worse under Biden is absurd too.

Yeah, fuck up the border as much as possible for 3 years, then election year float some bullshit bloated bill that they were glad didn't pass, then blame republicans for the border. What a shock, didn't see that coming.

The country is a lost cause at this point. The left has won. Congrats!

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[quote=nonniey;1359332]One world order? Globalist? You are starting to sound like a MAGA. What happened? And it actually was a good bill, stronger than anything Trump could legally do on the border if he gets in and after the election the Dems will have no incentive or desire to pass a bill like this whether they win or lose. Make no mistake Biden absolutely wrecked the border and deserves most of the blame, but what Trump did, like he always does, is put himself before country. (Oh and that Pork? Ukraine, Israel and the Pacific security assistance were critical support to US interests - but again for Trump - it is fuck US interests mine are more important).[/quote]

Fuck Trump. He didn't accomplish jack shit. I have been conservative since June 23, 1983. Well before Trump ever fucking came along into politics, let alone being a "conservative". There is not one political position I hold that is influenced by Trump in any way.

Sadly, whoever our next president is, is going to be someone that does nothing to help America. I'm going to vote for some random person simply because I try to always vote in at least the presidential and my state's senator elections, but my enthusiasm is at a 0%.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1359333]Buddy, it ain't just Romney.

That bill was a Republican wish list they've been demanding for years. The Democrats finally gave it to them and they tanked their own fucking bill. This bill was wrote by a fucking Republican (Lankford).

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/02/08/border-security-gop-senate-congress-mcconnell-lankford/72495722007/[/url]

I'm not a liberal. In fact, I voted conservative up until the GOP went absolutely apeshit. Stop crying about everyone being liberal because they don't agree with or side with you. The cold hard truth is the Republicans have gone so far right of the middle, they aren't a serious party anymore.[/quote]

I didn't call you a liberal, but based on my reading of your political posts (in general, not just this one) I did assume you were a democrat. If that's not the case, my apologies.

I don't think I was crying, ahh, but maybe I was. Me and politics are like serenity now. Serenity now, insanity later. I really wish I didn't care, because we're tanking (I think we can all agree on this, but disagree on whose more at fault), and it's not stopping. I'm glad I grew up when I did. The 90's were sweet. I wouldn't want to be growing up in this era.

[IMG]https://fictionfanblog.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/yogi-gif.gif[/IMG]

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Happy Saturday everyone! I'll let any one of you who wants it, have the last word.

In hindsight, I wish I didn't reply to NC's post lol. Sometimes my filter gets broken.

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/7zgcrszlcuu61.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1359341]Happy Saturday everyone! I'll let any one of you who wants it, have the last word.

In hindsight, I wish I didn't reply to NC's post lol. Sometimes my filter gets broken.

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/7zgcrszlcuu61.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I have a question for you. What do you think a globalist is? I think many think globalist means putting US interests behind some international world order. When imo the reality is the current world order is a US hegemony. The purpose for all foreign aid is to support US Interests/hegemony. Some think being a hegemonic power is bad/evil, but historically, going back thru ancient history, hegemonic periods are far more peaceful than non-hegemonic periods.

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Dipping my toe back into this conversation. Growing up believing Ronald Reagan was the best modern day president, I am disgusted with the options that our system is currently presenting. And even more disgusted with the Republicans in charge of the house at the moment. Our government works best in moments of consensus or crisis, but the House Republicans clearly don't want this government to work at all.

If Nikki Haley is the Republican candidate, she likely will have my vote. If it's a Biden Trump rematch I guarantee Trump won't get my vote this time, but would it go to Biden? i dunno.

No Republican House member will get my vote for sure.

On a different note, There is a voting system called AAD(approve approve disapprove) has anybody heard of that

Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk

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The post above is on point!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1359341]Happy Saturday everyone! I'll let any one of you who wants it, have the last word.

In hindsight, I wish I didn't reply to NC's post lol. Sometimes my filter gets broken.

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/7zgcrszlcuu61.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

JHC , more effing memes.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1359333]Buddy, it ain't just Romney.

That bill was a Republican wish list they've been demanding for years. The Democrats finally gave it to them and they tanked their own fucking bill. This bill was wrote by a fucking Republican (Lankford).

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/02/08/border-security-gop-senate-congress-mcconnell-lankford/72495722007/[/url]


I'm not a liberal. In fact, I voted conservative up until the GOP went absolutely apeshit. Stop crying about everyone being liberal because they don't agree with or side with you. The cold hard truth is the Republicans have gone so far right of the middle, they aren't a serious party anymore.[/quote]

Do you seriously and honestly believe you need a bill to enforce already existing laws on the books?

Explain how illegals crossings were at a 35 year low with the previous administration too a record all time high with this administration?

It’s laughable at the complete and utter dishonesty at this point. Biden has the power to enforce border security

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[quote=Chico23231;1359364]

1)Do you seriously and honestly believe you need a bill to enforce already existing laws on the books?

2)_Explain how illegals crossings were at a 35 year low with the previous administration too a record all time high with this administration?

3)It’s laughable at the complete and utter dishonesty at this point. Biden has the power to enforce border security[/quote]

1) Same BS you sprout about guns every time there is a Mass shooting

2) They weren't

3) Then why didn't trump do it? The Bill gave the Border Bitchs what they wanted and turned it down. You trum defense is weak.

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[quote=Chico23231;1359364]Do you seriously and honestly believe you need a bill to enforce already existing laws on the books?

Explain how illegals crossings were at a 35 year low with the previous administration too a record all time high with this administration?

It’s laughable at the complete and utter dishonesty at this point. Biden has the power to enforce border security[/quote]

Easy explanation is that they have been taught our amnesty laws by far left NGOs (that want open borders). No laws on the books fixes that. This bill would have. Over 90% of illegal migrants now claim amnesty which ties the executive branches hands. This bill would have ended catch and release and would have expedited amnesty hearings so that most of them could be deported. No way the Dems agree to that again after the election. Trump basically wrecked the fix to the border for an election advantage. As always Trump before country for him and his followers.

As for the 35 year low that is only when 2020 is taken into account and 2020 was a planetary wide shutdown of migration which skews that statistic. If you look at 2017-2019 those years were worse than Trump's predecessor. That Trump was good on the border is a myth, but yes he was better than Biden.