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Would be fitting if Ron got the axe on Black Friday. His tenure began with a "happy Thanksgiving" and it may end with one, too.

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Whew … Before we all give up let’s remember The NEW owners inherited this mess .. this was NEVER gonna be a winning season and most of us knew this Staff would not be returning in 2024 … All of this is unfolding now .. we came into the season with No real QB and Sam has been about as good as one could expect considering the MESS around him so let’s not give up on him yet ..
We all have stuck through this circus with Snyder so I’m at least gonna give the new owner a little time before I jump ship .. I really do hope we clean house and I won’t care if it’s tomorrow!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1352513]I dont want to hear anything from the team unless it is the announcement of Ron being fired[/quote]

I was hoping to hear that he and JDR were pushed from a vehicle in East Rutherford, wearing only their tighty whities and holding cheap six-packs of beer. But that verges on fantasy ...

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[quote=punch it in;1352575]BB was responsible for several great defenses and possibly the best defensive coach of all time. I hate that I have to constantly defend him because I think he is a dick. But once again him and Brady needed each other.[/quote]

Credit where it's due - they wouldn't have won all those titles without good defense. He always had adequate defenses when it mattered most. Several HOFers on those D's too - as well as on the Giants d that won 2 titles.

The last 2-3 post-Brady years have made him look bad as roster assembler though.

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[quote=jamf;1352598]lol you simp. Howell isn’t a rookie. He’s been on a pro team for over 20 games at this point.
Stop making excuses for someone that can’t get the ball downfield.[/quote]

Howell is basically a redshirt, he was 3rd string for most of his rookie year.

Also whoever said ditch the black uni's - I totally agree. I hate them. Nothing unique about them.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1352610]Since being traded 3 weeks ago

CY has 1.5 Sacks
Sweat has 1 Sack


Not missing them
Much.


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That is only 2 games for CY a good pace for sacks.

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[quote=mooby;1352620]....

Also whoever said ditch the black uni's - I totally agree. I hate them. Nothing unique about them.[/quote]

Lost every game they've been worn.

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[url]https://x.com/magicjohnson/status/1726418524393083097?s=46[/url]

Ummm does he realize we all know?


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[QUOTE=nonniey;1352624]Lost every game they've been worn.[/QUOTE]


The black plague


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[quote=rocnrik;1352616]Whew … Before we all give up let’s remember The NEW owners inherited this mess .. this was NEVER gonna be a winning season and most of us knew this Staff would not be returning in 2024 … All of this is unfolding now .. we came into the season with No real QB and Sam has been about as good as one could expect considering the MESS around him so let’s not give up on him yet ..
We all have stuck through this circus with Snyder so I’m at least gonna give the new owner a little time before I jump ship .. I really do hope we clean house and I won’t care if it’s tomorrow![/quote]

I am all for “trust the process” I just need to know there will be a process sooner rather than later

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1352625][url]https://x.com/magicjohnson/status/1726418524393083097?s=46[/url]

Ummm does he realize we all know?


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LOL. Was thinking the same thing.

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For the 32nd consecutive year, Washington will not win at least 11 regular season games. Barring a December collapse by Detroit, every other NFL franchise will have done it at least twice in that span.

Unbelievable


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[quote=punch it in;1352629]LOL. Was thinking the same thing.[/quote]

It’s his thing to state the obvious and make a post ; look back through magics postings

It’s a tongue in cheek post

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How did Rivera and the Panthers go 15-1? Was Cam that good?
Rivera has to be one of the worst Head coaches that coached 10 or more years.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1352633]How did Rivera and the Panthers go 15-1? Was Cam that good?
Rivera has to be one of the worst Head coaches that coached 10 or more years.[/QUOTE]


Cam was amazing and the defense was legit.


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Good news is we now have the 7th pick and after losing the next 2 games we should be in the top 5


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Yep, great news. We'll have a top 5 pick and still pick a fucking loser...guaranteed.

There's no good news here. Hasn't been any in decades. New owner? Yes...that's definitely news, but I'm not convinced it's good yet.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1352640]Good news is we now have the 7th pick and after losing the next 2 games we should be in the top 5


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I never understand this kind of talk about the draft. 50% bust. The last time we had a top 5 pick all we heard was generational pass rusher. How'd that work out?

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Hey guys I’m just trying to give us a glimmer of hope lol


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So much for Kam Curl getting that huge payday. That dude has been quiet for weeks. Does he ever make a play? When was the last time he had a pick or forced a fumble? Let him walk too


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They can ALL literally walk. Not one player or coach I'm that concerned about keeping at this point. We're like 2-3 years from being competitive, and that's assuming we now have owners who can actually piece together a competent staff. It's a lot to expect... I'm not holding my breath.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1352651]They can ALL literally walk. Not one player or coach I'm that concerned about keeping at this point. We're like 2-3 years from being competitive, and that's assuming we now have owners who can actually piece together a competent staff. It's a lot to expect... I'm not holding my breath.[/quote]


Not even Jonathan Allen or Terry McLaurin can't stay ?

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Of course they can stay, but I won't be concerned if they don't.

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I didn't watch the game...but looks like Scary T had 5 catches, and David Mayo had more sacks than JA...?

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I've reached the point of giving up on the season, 2-3 weeks ahead of when I expected. I was going along with the idea of letting RR see out the season given the then logic, but I think he's totally lost the locker room, and JDR has lost the D (probably weeks ago tbh). This game showed neither can coach adjustments, motivation and certainly not personnel selection. I'm going back to the idea of firing them both and elevating EB to interim.

1) If they've lost the locker room, what effect is this going to have on the players heading into the offseason if we wait until week 18? Are we going to have players we want to keep demanding a trade or signing elsewhere in FA? Are they going to be so low on morale that it takes a miracle coach to turn things around? Yeah they get paid, but they have to WANT to play too.
2) We have the chance to give EB an advance interview on being a HC, whether its here or not. If he wants to be a HC he should jump a the chance of interim and give it all he's got if he doesn't want to look like another Josh McDaniels. That may not result in more wins, but it should result in better play and the chance for a new GM to assess the roster before the offseason.
3) While RR is still 'in charge' there remains the risk of poor personnel choices causing more damage. Not a big risk mind you, but a risk nonetheless.

If I'm Harris I fire them both Friday morning regardless (it's a short week and no chance any interim coach would be ready in 3 days). I'd probably fire the key FO staff too while I'm at it and bring in at least an interim GM to steer the ship until the end of the season.

I just think there's enough damage done and there will be heavy HC competition come January, so get ahead of the game. Or at least make it clear you have a plan and there will be sweeping changes. Its too late to be conservative if you ask me.

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The sacks were the amazing part Chief. Some drives featured multiple sacks and 3-and-out's, convincing me we were gonna dominate them. And then when he wasn't getting sacked Devito was shredding us. Mind-boggling really. Idk how you get 9 sacks and still manage to never phase the qb. Howell was phased all damn day.

We lost to a 3rd string qb making his 2nd career start who lives with his parents. Pain.

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I can’t believe JDR and RR still have jobs. That is beyond pathetic


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[QUOTE=mooby;1352657]The sacks were the amazing part Chief. Some drives featured multiple sacks and 3-and-out's, convincing me we were gonna dominate them. And then when he wasn't getting sacked Devito was shredding us. Mind-boggling really. Idk how you get 9 sacks and still manage to never phase the qb. Howell was phased all damn day.

We lost to a 3rd string qb making his 2nd career start who lives with his parents. Pain.[/QUOTE]


And we are not surprised at all one bit


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[quote=AnonEmouse;1352656]I've reached the point of giving up on the season, 2-3 weeks ahead of when I expected. I was going along with the idea of letting RR see out the season given the then logic, but I think he's totally lost the locker room, and JDR has lost the D (probably weeks ago tbh). This game showed neither can coach adjustments, motivation and certainly not personnel selection. I'm going back to the idea of firing them both and elevating EB to interim.

1) If they've lost the locker room, what effect is this going to have on the players heading into the offseason if we wait until week 18? Are we going to have players we want to keep demanding a trade or signing elsewhere in FA? Are they going to be so low on morale that it takes a miracle coach to turn things around? Yeah they get paid, but they have to WANT to play too.
2) We have the chance to give EB an advance interview on being a HC, whether its here or not. If he wants to be a HC he should jump a the chance of interim and give it all he's got if he doesn't want to look like another Josh McDaniels. That may not result in more wins, but it should result in better play and the chance for a new GM to assess the roster before the offseason.
3) While RR is still 'in charge' there remains the risk of poor personnel choices causing more damage. Not a big risk mind you, but a risk nonetheless.

If I'm Harris I fire them both Friday morning regardless (it's a short week and no chance any interim coach would be ready in 3 days). I'd probably fire the key FO staff too while I'm at it and bring in at least an interim GM to steer the ship until the end of the season.

I just think there's enough damage done and there will be heavy HC competition come January, so get ahead of the game. Or at least make it clear you have a plan and there will be sweeping changes. Its too late to be conservative if you ask me.[/quote]

I wholeheartedly agree with you that RR and JDR must go as soon as is reasonable and I concur that Friday morning is that time.

I have my doubts about EB as Interim HC because he is such a hard-ass. That said, I have no idea who else to put in that role. At least, EB gets a chance to show what he's got in a HC role.

I don't know what it gains us to clear out FO staff at this time other than Martin Mayhew and a couple of overpaid Carolina Panthers leftovers who apparently are just taking up space in the building.

Josh Harris could and I think should make a statement about the new direction of the team and announce that the search for a new GM will start now.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1352651]They can ALL literally walk. Not one player or coach I'm that concerned about keeping at this point. We're like 2-3 years from being competitive, and that's assuming we now have owners who can actually piece together a competent staff. It's a lot to expect... I'm not holding my breath.[/QUOTE]


DeMeco Ryans has the Texans competing in year 1 with a roster that was believed to be one of the worst. Dan Campbell had the Lions(!) best the world champs in the first game of year 3 and on the road. Doug Pedersen got the Jags moving in the right direction pretty fast.

RR has done the opposite. We need a real coach and it shouldn’t be a 3-4 year rebuild. We have more starting pieces now than any of those teams did, in my opinion.


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They should fired Jason wright and Martin mayhew today at a minumum.

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[quote=Chico23231;1352664]They should fired Jason wright and Martin mayhew today at a minumum.[/quote]

JDR seems like the perfect candidate to fire if they want feed the fan base some fresh meat to gnaw on.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1352650]So much for Kam Curl getting that huge payday. That dude has been quiet for weeks. Does he ever make a play? When was the last time he had a pick or forced a fumble? Let him walk too


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So overrated. Don’t even realize he is on the field. Our secondary is challenging our oline as the most pathetic unit on the field.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1352632]It’s his thing to state the obvious and make a post ; look back through magics postings

It’s a tongue in cheek post[/QUOTE]


I am referring, and believe okie is referring, to him posting the score. Nothing tongue in cheek. He could just say
Wow. Commanders turned the ball over 6 times and gave the Giants 24 points. Inexcusable.

I don’t need the score as if only ownership had access to it. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1352669]I am referring, and believe okie is referring, to him posting the score. Nothing tongue in cheek. He could just say
Wow. Commanders turned the ball over 6 times and gave the Giants 24 points. Inexcusable.

I don’t need the score as if only ownership had access to it. Lol[/quote]

they are joke post

Al Galdi mentioned it awhile back on his podcast that Magic does that.

for example the NJ Devils could lose a game say 1-0

Magic will write:

If the devils had scored 2 goals last night we would have won 2-1.

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For those of you giving up now on this franchise you are giving up after 25 years of Snyder and before our new ownership actually has an offseason to fix things. That is crazy. You made it this far, you can wait a few more months.

Also like Calia said, a new owner, staff, and FO along with 9 picks (6 of which are basically in the top 100 ) and a boatload of cap space will fix things sooner than 3 years. They can absolutely turn this around next year. Been saying this since we were 2-0. This season is nothing other than a transition.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1352670]they are joke post[/QUOTE]


No it is just a thank you captain obvious post.

Saying if the Commanders scored 32 points they would have won would’ve been a joke. Giving me the score is just tmi.


Heartbreaking loss to the Seattle Seahawks today. Defensively, we couldn’t come up with a big play to stop Seattle during their last two drives

Again, thanks captain obvious.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1352645]Yep, great news. We'll have a top 5 pick and still pick a fucking loser...guaranteed.

There's no good news here. Hasn't been any in decades. New owner? Yes...that's definitely news, but I'm not convinced it's good yet.[/quote]

This is how I am leaning.

I have zero clue if Harris will improve the quality of the on field product

I am also concerned that the financial situation is so bad that there is no choice but a long rebuild as they slowly remove contracts to decrease unnecessary expenditures.

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[quote=punch it in;1352671]For those of you giving up now on this franchise you are giving up after 25 years of Snyder and before our new ownership actually has an offseason to fix things. That is crazy. You made it this far, you can wait a few more months.

Also like Calia said, a new owner, staff, and FO along with 9 picks (6 of which are basically in the top 100 ) and a boatload of cap space will fix things sooner than 3 years. They can absolutely turn this around next year. Been saying this since we were 2-0. This season is nothing other than a transition.[/quote]

i agree!

Honestly the worst scenario would have been a .500 or a bit better record this year and giving Harris the illusion he had something in this coaching staff

Now it is clear to Harris he needs a full rebuild and he can get started on it ASAP

For the record RR the GM has destroyed this team way more then RR the head coach, WAY MORE!!!

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1352645]Yep, great news. We'll have a top 5 pick and still pick a fucking loser...guaranteed.

There's no good news here. Hasn't been any in decades. New owner? Yes...that's definitely news, but I'm not convinced it's good yet.[/QUOTE]


Chief at the beginning of this season, with the same bunch of idiots Snyder put in place you were optimistic. We will have actual football people in here this offseason. Snyder is gone, and everyone that idiot hired will be gone in a few weeks. He certainly will be better than Snyder. See the Sixers and the Devils. It will be better.