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Carriker's [URL="https://twitter.com/#!/BigPoppaPump94/status/193456401727762432"]tweet[/URL] to Paul about his move to TE. Pretty funny:

@BigPoppaPump94: @Niles_Paul84 I believe ur explosive, but if ur gonna turn into a tight end u better get ur lift on, cause I'm coming 4 u little fella!

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[quote=Ruhskins;910298]Carriker's [URL="https://twitter.com/#!/BigPoppaPump94/status/193456401727762432"]tweet[/URL] to Paul about his move to TE. Pretty funny:

@BigPoppaPump94: @Niles_Paul84 I believe ur explosive, but if ur gonna turn into a tight end u better get ur lift on, cause I'm coming 4 u little fella![/quote]

Paul likely blocks better than Davis and is perhaps more athletic.

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[quote=Mattyk;910269]All we're missing this year is a 2nd rounder, we have

1.2
3.6
4.7
4.14
5.6
6.3
7.6[/quote]

It's kinda comical that some think as a result of the trade we have crippled our draft for years to come. We could still emerge with 2 starters and a 2 immediate contributors from this class. Also, don't rule out a trade down in the 3rd to pick up either another 3rd or a 2nd next year.

Back on point, Kyle's strength as an OC is finding mismatches and a hybrid weapon like Paul can open up some nice passing lanes for Griffin.

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[quote=NC_Skins;910254]The numbers the past 2 years show otherwise. Even last year he looked slow as molasses.[/quote]

In 2010, Cooley had 77 catches and 849 yards, hardly a sign of decline. And Cooley had knee injury last year, which explains the great decline in his speed. I don't think Cooley is done yet, at least not this year. Now that Paul is becoming TE, if he plays well and Cooley doesn't this year then I could see the cut coming next season. But not this year.

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[quote=12thMan;910276]Wow, 2 picks in 4th round. That's pretty darn good.[/quote]

It'd be nice if we could turn one of our 2nd-4th picks into a starter. The 3rd rounder has a good shot depending on what position we go (S or OL possibly). The 4ths maybe if we get a little lucky with our projections and evaluations. It's nice to have two shots in the 4th so close together to up our chances at finding some impact at a point in the draft where it is reasonable to think it is possible.

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[quote=NC_Skins;910086]One of the things that Shanny loves about NP is his blocking. (to go along with his work ethic)


Also, according to a recent tweet by Niles Paul, he's currently at 234.[/quote]

This.. kid is still young and has a frame to fill out

He was great blocking WR and pretty solid special teamer last year... this keeps him on the team in a role maybe better suited towards keeping him.

If we have a more mobile offense overall.. this is the type of TE you want.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;910245]Do you think with the weight Paul has put on they would use him as a pass catching FB.[/quote]

lol no

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I posted a link to WP about Niles Paul switching positions and why he's doing it, but looks like it may have gotten taken down for some dumb reason whatever it may be...?

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Niles Paul didn't figure that much into the passing game in his rookie season. He only caught 2 passes the whole season. While an excellent hitter on special teams, playing TE could be his true calling. Paul could very well thrive as a TE

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[quote=CultBrennan59;910354]I posted a link to WP about Niles Paul switching positions and why he's doing it, but looks like it may have gotten taken down for some dumb reason whatever it may be...?[/quote]

Look a little harder

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cooley is a regular jackie smith
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Are you really serious, nitpicking on Cooley's drop? Almost everyone drops ball from time to time, it is not like Cooley have notorious problem with drops.

Ok look at this scenario, if we cut Cooley. So our rooster for TE will be Davis, Paul, and Paulsen; if Davis got injured or busted for smoking weed, Davis is automatically out for a year. That leaves us Paul and Paulsen, and if the experiment with Paul doesn't work out well. That leaves us with Paulsen. Would you really be glad to have Paulsen instead of Cooley, I highly doubt it. The ideal scenario would be - Davis, Cooley and Paul. If Paul ends up playing well this year, then we could afford to let Cooley go next year.

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i don't want cooley to be cut. i want him to take one for the team after missing 40% of the games over the past 3 seasons, that's all. healthy cooley and clean davis are dangerous

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[quote=GridIron26;910429]Are you really serious, nitpicking on Cooley's drop? Almost everyone drops ball from time to time, it is not like Cooley have notorious problem with drops.

Ok look at this scenario, if we cut Cooley. So our rooster for TE will be Davis, Paul, and Paulsen; if Davis got injured or busted for smoking weed, Davis is automatically out for a year. That leaves us Paul and Paulsen, and if the experiment with Paul doesn't work out well. That leaves us with Paulsen. Would you really be glad to have Paulsen instead of Cooley, I highly doubt it. The ideal scenario would be - Davis, Cooley and Paul. If Paul ends up playing well this year, then we could afford to let Cooley go next year.[/quote]

Actually he has developed a bit of an issue with drops.

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I'm a little late and still confused. Laron Landry's mOtto- "Meat/Potatoes". What was that all about? I'm almost scared to know but does it have something to do with failed potential?

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[quote=los panda;910432]i don't want cooley to be cut. i want him to take one for the team after missing 40% of the games over the past 3 seasons, that's all. healthy cooley and clean davis are dangerous[/quote]

I'm sure Cooley will take a pay cut to remain with the Redskins. If he doesn't then surely another NFL team will sign him if he is released by the Redskins.

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If he is released. My sense tells me he will stay in the NFC East and become a Giant, who have huge issues with the TE position right now.

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[quote=SkinsHulk;910500]I'm a little late and still confused. Laron Landry's mOtto- "Meat/Potatoes". What was that all about? I'm almost scared to know but does it have something to do with failed potential?[/quote]

Staple meal for getting big.

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it can also mean a simpleton. someone who is not very open to change. "i'm a meat and potatoes kind of guy" fear change, won't try new foods, etc.

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I really don't know what positioning Niles Paul to TE will prove. Fred Davis is the number 1 TE now. In 2009 and 2011 Fred Davis has emerged as a reliable and dangerous threat in the Redskins passing game when Cooley went down. The offense is better having two proven TEs on the roster so it would be logical thinking for the Redskins to keep Cooley. Niles Paul, although young, is not proven. Paul is not on Cooley's level.

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[quote=los panda;910543]it can also mean a simpleton. someone who is not very open to change. "i'm a meat and potatoes kind of guy" fear change, won't try new foods, etc.[/quote]

true and not just new foods.. someone who just sticks to what they want/works for them

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[quote=tryfuhl;910489]Actually he has developed a bit of an issue with drops.[/quote]

I would not call it a problem, but then, everyone have their own opinions. Regardless of this, Cooley is the best option behind Davis. By dumping Cooley, we WILL put the offense in difficult position if Davis ever get injured.

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[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/moss-performing-like-a-receiver-possesse?blockID=724578&feedID=6355]Moss performing like a receiver 'possessed'[/url]

I guess Tana isn't done nor getting cut...

[QUOTE=30gut;921448][url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/moss-performing-like-a-receiver-possesse?blockID=724578&feedID=6355]Moss performing like a receiver 'possessed'[/url]

I guess Tana isn't done nor getting cut...[/QUOTE]

Moss is always a true gamer, he brings it all the time

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I thought it was crazy when some fans started doubting Tana's place on the roster, especially after we cut the only other vet WR w/ experience in our offensive system. Tana knows he's gonna have a huge season !!!!

Little concerned to hear Morgan is a bit gimpy already and the team is concerned enough about Hank to keep him out of mini camp, so critical for younger players, and especially with a rookie QB. There could be a lot of pressure on Garcon to produce this year, which is really how it should be anyway. And I expect a lot from our TEs (Davis, Cooley, Paul).

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Not really concerned about Hankerson. They had decided a while back they weren't going to rush him back. I'm fine with that. It's not like he's sitting around.

Don't know enough about Morgan's situation

Moss had one foot out the door. Had it last year too, but the lockout probably helped him. He was given a challenge this off-season and he answered the call. Good for him

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Josh Morgan broke his leg last season and was lost to the 49ers. He's fully healed but he has some issues with his speed. He's still not quite back to being in playing shape yet. Hankerson will be fine. I look forward to him catching a lot of passes from RG3 this season. I'm not sure Moss had one foot out of the door last year. After all, they had just signed him to a new three-year contract.

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Sorry, meant one foot out from his perspective. It was expected he'd re-sign but he did consider a couple other options. Lockout probably helped him stay.

Either way, he was kind of in the doghouse this past season but has totally redeemed him self it seems

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;910540]If he is released. My sense tells me he will stay in the NFC East and become a Giant, who have huge issues with the TE position right now.[/quote]

....same issues we had when we lost Boss and Steve Smith.

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[quote=The Goat;921475]I thought it was crazy when some fans started doubting Tana's place on the roster, especially after we cut the only other vet WR w/ experience in our offensive system. Tana knows he's gonna have a huge season !!!!

Little concerned to hear Morgan is a bit gimpy already and the team is concerned enough about Hank to keep him out of mini camp, so critical for younger players, and especially with a rookie QB. There could be a lot of pressure on Garcon to produce this year, which is really how it should be anyway. And I expect a lot from our TEs (Davis, Cooley, Paul).[/quote]

Is it just me or are you singing a new tune now that we hear Moss has been acting like a child possessed?

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[quote=30gut;921448][URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/moss-performing-like-a-receiver-possesse?blockID=724578&feedID=6355"]Moss performing like a receiver 'possessed'[/URL]

I guess Tana isn't done nor getting cut...[/quote]


I like it a lot. Moss has real competition and a legit QB this year. Hes probably also motivated knowing he only has a couple years left and that if he doesnt produce this year it will probably be his last.

I dont know about him droping 10-15 lbs, but i guess he has too. Should definetly give him his speed back, but i hope he can last the whole season.

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[quote=The Goat;921475][B]I thought it was crazy when some fans started doubting Tana's place on the roster, especially after we cut the only other vet WR w/ experience in our offensive system[/B]. Tana knows he's gonna have a huge season !!!!

Little concerned to hear Morgan is a bit gimpy already and the team is concerned enough about Hank to keep him out of mini camp, so critical for younger players, and especially with a rookie QB. There could be a lot of pressure on Garcon to produce this year, which is really how it should be anyway. And I expect a lot from our TEs (Davis, Cooley, Paul).[/quote]

Do you remember last season? Tana had a horrible year. I always been a Tana fan, but sounds like he needed some motivation. He needs to comeback strong.

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[quote=mooby;921515]Is it just me or are you singing a new tune now that we hear Moss has been acting like a child possessed?[/quote]

Tana has always frustrated me w/ too many fumbles, drops and sometimes just mailing it in. On the other hand I thought/said all along he'd be here this season (along w/ Gaffney, mistakenly) because he knows the system while our others guys are new/recovering from injury.

Definitely was hoping he'd come in looking sharp with Griffin at the helm and a new opportunity for the franchise. Gotta give Tana props and I won't be surprised if he has the most yards of the WR corp.

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Santana Moss might have an explosive year this year. He might end up being the most productive out of all of the wide receivers. The additions of Garcon and Morgan are huge, but don't count out Moss to end up with more production than those two.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;921634]Santana Moss might have an explosive year this year. He might end up being the most productive out of all of the wide receivers. The additions of Garcon and Morgan are huge, [B]but don't count out Moss to end up with more production than those two[/B].[/quote]

Why?

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Why not? It is conceivable after all...

Anyway, it's all just opinions and conjecture at this point. Maybe it'll be Alfred Morris with the most production receiving the ball from RG3. Who knows?

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[quote=mooby;921644]Why?[/quote]

Namely because he knows the system already and both Morgan and Garcon are new to the system. Regardless of he's on the field for the same number of plays with Garcon or Morgan or not, he could still end up having the most receptions and the most yards out of all the receivers. What if Kyle Shanahan goes with plays that have 3 WR sets for most of the time? That would give Moss the chance to produce from the slot where he could do more damage than the both the split ends.

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[quote=SmootSmack;921480]Either way, he was kind of in the doghouse this past season but has totally redeemed him self it seems[/quote]What makes you say Tana was in the doghouse last year?

Sure, his production wasn't what it was in 2010 but he did miss 4 games playing through a [I]broken hand[/I].
I gotta imagine that a broken hand is a tough injury for a receiver.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d829dc335/article/santana-moss-spot-on-redskins-looks-secure]Santana Moss' spot on Redskins looks secure - NFL.com[/url]

[quote]"I see [Moss] as one of the premier guys in the NFL at (the slot) position," offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said via the Washington Post.[/quote]

[quote]We should have known it wouldn't be so easy to get rid of him.[/quote]

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Because people who work there told me he slacked a bit too much between games and coaches weren't happy about it

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good to hear moss is playing well. Nothing better for a young quarterback than a reliable and athletic tight end (Davis and Cooley), a young pass catching RB (Helu), and a focused veteran receiver (Moss). If our line stays healthy, we will see alot more points this year than redskins are used to seeing...........and I'd wager that 20 point ceiling we seem to have an issue with will be a thing of the past.