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[quote=hooskins;952705]That's rich considering he's a huge advocate for women's rights. Oh wait.[/quote]

Actually it's the great equalizer. It's like okay we'll have a guy thats wants to overturn Roe vs Wade but he'll be good looking so in the end it'll be a wash. :D

Luckily overturning Roe vs Wade is unlikely but it's still a little to close for comfort. Still I miss the days where I was able to talk about how the Republican VP nominee was hot even though she wasn't really qualified to be VP.

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How come a womans rights are me paying for their birth controls and abortions?

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:doh:


I keep hearing "communist" and "socialist" thrown around with Obama with none of these people actually knowing what they really mean. Let's be honest, the only reason they are using these terms is because of the social backlash they would get from using their preferred choice of nigger to describe Obama. **** these simple minded people. I've never seen a President during my life get the amount of hate this man has. While he hasn't been the best, he doesn't deserve the type of hate being thrown at him.

A friend posted this on facebook and it about sums it up when it comes to people calling Obama a socialist/communist.

[URL]http://i.imgur.com/RMhXu.png[/URL][/quote]

It seems like the left likes to find reasons to use the N word but blame it on what the right must be thinking.

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[quote=saden1;951686]Well, they sure aren't getting the Latino, Black, Women, Jewish,and Muslim vote so I suppose they are.

Hopefully the Catholics come through with some anger and send Lord Obama packing.[/quote]May want to check the polls on the women and Jewish votes.

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[quote=firstdown;952822]How come a womans rights are me paying for their birth controls and abortions?[/quote]

The same way I'm paying for military shit and wars I do not want. See how easy that is turned around. The difference is, you are bitching about .0001% of the budget, where I'm bitching about 40-50% of the budget. I suggest you redirect those priorities.

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[quote=NC_Skins;952871]The same way I'm paying for military shit and wars I do not want. See how easy that is turned around. The difference is, you are bitching about .0001% of the budget, where I'm bitching about 40-50% of the budget. I suggest you redirect those priorities.[/quote]

Two different things.

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[quote=firstdown;952879]Two different things.[/quote]

No. They aren't.

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Yea, I sit around begging for a war so you have to pay taxes to support it.

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[quote=firstdown;952914]Yea, I sit around begging for a war so you have to pay taxes to support it.[/quote]


I haven't heard the first woman yet begging for birth control or abortions either. Stalemate.

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[quote=NC_Skins;952927]I haven't heard the first woman yet begging for birth control or abortions either. Stalemate.[/quote]

Where have you been. I could start with Sandra Fluke.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Fluke]Sandra Fluke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;952934]Where have you been. I could start with Sandra Fluke.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Fluke]Sandra Fluke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/quote]

Sure. I can pull up many conservative fear mongers wanting to go to war with Iran/Iraq/Syria....and others. THEY MIGHT BOMB US GUYS SO LETS DRIVE THE COUNTRY BROKE TO PROTECT OURSELVES.

Stalemate. (again)


As I said, I pay for shit that I don't want to pay for and it covers a larger percentage of the budget than you having to pay for abortion/birth control. Just like the typical GOPer. Bitching about a penny while thousands of dollars are swindled right out the back door.

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[quote=NC_Skins;952936]As I said, I pay for shit that I don't want to pay for and it covers a larger percentage of the budget than you having to pay for abortion/birth control. Just like the typical GOPer. Bitching about a penny while thousands of dollars are swindled right out the back door.[/quote]Providing for National Defense is part of the Constitution. Providing for birth control and abortions is not....Checkmate.

If we collectively don't provide for defense, we will be invaded and will have no freedom. If federal tax dollars do not provide for birth control/abortion, women who desire these services can pay for them out-of-pocket. Just like I have to pay out-of-pocket for my personal firearms.

The Declaration of Independence provides for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and also states we are endowed by our Creator with those rights. Why shouldn't the government protect these rights for the most vulnerable....the unborn? Typical far left lib....provide cradle to grave nanny state services for all in the name of "fairness"....yet advocate for the gov't funding of infanticide.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;952941]Providing for[U] National Defense[/U] is part of the Constitution. Providing for birth control and abortions is not....Checkmate.

If we collectively don't provide for defense, we will be invaded and will have no freedom. If federal tax dollars do not provide for birth control/abortion, women who desire these services can pay for them out-of-pocket. Just like I have to pay out-of-pocket for my personal firearms.
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I'm sorry. How many trillions of dollars have we spent on military and how many countries have invaded us? Yeah....I didn't think so. I have no problem spending money on a defense to secure our borders, NOT fight in countries and on situations that have nothing to do with us. We are broke because of our war/military budget, NOT because of birth control and abortions. Again, you are crying about pennies when trillions are being robbed over failed moronic foreign policies.

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[quote=NC_Skins;952946]I'm sorry. [B]How many trillions of dollars have we spent on military and how many countries have invaded us? [/B]Yeah....I didn't think so. I have no problem spending money on a defense to secure our borders, NOT fight in countries and on situations that have nothing to do with us. We are broke because of our war/military budget, NOT because of birth control and abortions. Again, you are crying about pennies when trillions are being robbed over failed moronic foreign policies.[/quote]

You answered your own argument. Look I'm all for cutting back defense spending along with everthing else. My point was not about spending my point was they define womens rights as things other pay for.

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[quote=firstdown;952822]How come a womans rights are me paying for their birth controls and abortions?[/quote]



....so no women pays anything,nothing,not taxes,nada?

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/senate-democrats-lose-five-more-states-shift-172719794.html]The Senate is the Democrats’ to lose as five more states shift | The Signal - Yahoo! News[/url]

Instead of voting in Democrats, they should be voting in non-partisan people who don't answer to corporate America.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;952984][url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/senate-democrats-lose-five-more-states-shift-172719794.html]The Senate is the Democrats’ to lose as five more states shift | The Signal - Yahoo! News[/url]

Instead of voting in Democrats, they should be voting in non-partisan people who don't answer to corporate America.[/QUOTE]

Anyone else wish they let the libertarian and green candidates participate in the presidential debate.

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[quote=NC_Skins;952984][url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/senate-democrats-lose-five-more-states-shift-172719794.html]The Senate is the Democrats’ to lose as five more states shift | The Signal - Yahoo! News[/url]

[B]Instead of voting in Democrats, they should be voting in non-partisan people who don't answer to corporate America[/B].[/quote]

So... don't vote?

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[quote=Daseal;953021]So... don't vote?[/quote]

They have people on the ballot that don't answer to Corporate America.

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Heres another tits up company Obama gave money to.
Nice job, Barry!

[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-16/electric-car-battery-maker-a123-systems-files-bankruptcy.html?cmpid=yhoo]Electric Car Battery Maker A123 Systems Files Bankruptcy - Bloomberg[/url]

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If I heard correctly they never even produced a battery. CEO's and the top exicutives were pulling in around 500 k each with bonus. When you have no skin in the game things like this happen.

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What a tool bag.

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57532807/charity-president-paul-ryan-did-nothing-at-soup-kitchen-photo-op/]Charity president: Paul Ryan "did nothing" at soup kitchen photo-op - CBS News[/url]

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[URL="http://www.romneytaxplan.com/"]Surely this is the most brilliant thing ever[/URL].

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[quote=NC_Skins;953151]What a tool bag.


[YT]M2WVJNxOpvY[/YT][/quote]From your link:

"Brian Antal, meanwhile, has [URL="http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/16/14485409-ryan-did-wash-dirty-dishes-during-soup-kitchen-visit"][COLOR=#000080]rescinded his claim [/COLOR][/URL]from Monday that Ryan did not clean any dirty dishes. He told NBC News he had been erroneously told that was the case by a volunteer. The Washington Post [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/16/brian-antal-paul-ryan-critic-has-voted-in-democratic-primaries/"][COLOR=#000080]reported[/COLOR][/URL] Tuesday that Antal has voted in Democratic primaries since at least 1995."

Tool bag....hmmm?

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[quote=saden1;953306][URL="http://www.romneytaxplan.com/"]Surely this is the most brilliant thing ever[/URL].[/quote]That's pretty damn funny.

The DNC has some bright folks.....just none on the current ticket :cool-smil

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;953307]From your link:

"Brian Antal, meanwhile, has [URL="http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/16/14485409-ryan-did-wash-dirty-dishes-during-soup-kitchen-visit"][COLOR=#000080]rescinded his claim [/COLOR][/URL]from Monday that Ryan did not clean any dirty dishes. He told NBC News he had been erroneously told that was the case by a volunteer. The Washington Post [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/16/brian-antal-paul-ryan-critic-has-voted-in-democratic-primaries/"][COLOR=#000080]reported[/COLOR][/URL] Tuesday that Antal has voted in Democratic primaries since at least 1995."

Tool bag....hmmm?[/quote]

Ah well....when you're on a smear campaign.....

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;953307]From your link:

"Brian Antal, meanwhile, has [URL="http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/16/14485409-ryan-did-wash-dirty-dishes-during-soup-kitchen-visit"][COLOR=#000080]rescinded his claim [/COLOR][/URL]from Monday that Ryan did not clean any dirty dishes. He told NBC News he had been erroneously told that was the case by a volunteer. The Washington Post [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/16/brian-antal-paul-ryan-critic-has-voted-in-democratic-primaries/"][COLOR=#000080]reported[/COLOR][/URL] Tuesday that Antal has voted in Democratic primaries since at least 1995."

Tool bag....hmmm?[/quote]

Yes he's still a tool bag. He showed up at a kitchen unannounced looking for a photo op. It's obvious he washed a dish or two, but realistically the man (and his family) did nothing. Did they put in 8 hours slaving over the stove or washing dishes?

Yes. Still a tool bag.

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Obama just shit on Romney in this debate.



Still not voting for him. Still wished Gary and Jill could have joined this debate. **** this 2 party crap.

I call the 1st debate for Romney and a draw in the second.

Solid win for Obama.

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[quote=firstdown;953147]If I heard correctly they never even produced a battery.[/quote]


....you didn't.

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This part still has me cracking up.

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:laughing2



Notice how smooth Obama is during this whole time. Chill as hell. He makes me want to vote for him because of his demeanor and coolness factor. Had he not signed the NDAA/Patriot Act and did a few other things he promised not to do, I probably would be voting for him.

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Romney still doing better then Obama on the economy but it's probably better then it really looks as he gets to propose his policies in a vacuum where he doesn't have to compromise with a Democratic senate. Much like Obama had many proposals pre-election 2008 that never projected a Republican House.

Still I continue to like what Romney brings to the table in terms of helping the economy and the overall goal of making businesses want to come here instead of, what feels a bit like forcing them to love us like the Obama administration wants to do ("pay your fair share" "Get rid of tax breaks for big oil"). And as anyone who's been in a relationship knows you can't force someone to love you.

Right now I'm going with Romney and seeing what the next four years brings. If he does well then I hope he wins in 2016, if the economy continues to falter then I pray like hell that Hillary has enough energy to run again because the truth is she should be President right now. As always though in supporting the GOP I'm gambling on social issues that are important to me like abortion, gay marriage, and an over involved foreign policy.

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I will say this though the bickering back and forth, while it made for great television to me it was scary as hell especially with the fiscal cliff coming up. I mean part of the reason we're dealing with the fiscal cliff is heavily partisan politics and if we can't have a civilized debate in a town hall format what does that mean for the upcoming congressional session?

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[quote=NC_Skins;953407]This part still has me cracking up.

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:laughing2



Notice how smooth Obama is during this whole time. Chill as hell. He makes me want to vote for him because of his demeanor and coolness factor. Had he not signed the NDAA/Patriot Act and did a few other things he promised not to do, I probably would be voting for him.[/quote]


Actually he did not call it an act of terror. Romney was right and the moderator needs to shut the F*&k up if she does not know what she is talking about.

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[quote=NC_Skins;953407]This part still has me cracking up.

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:laughing2



Notice how smooth Obama is during this whole time. Chill as hell. He makes me want to vote for him because of his demeanor and coolness factor. Had he not signed the NDAA/Patriot Act and did a few other things he promised not to do, I probably would be voting for him.[/quote]


When your facts are from talking points written by imbeciles your reality tends to get warped and this is the results. Even worse, what he is arguing for is that Obama should immediately call it an act of terror before having all the facts.

It's pretty disheartening to think that a large number of our population thinks Romney is capable of leading this country.

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[quote=saden1;953425]When your facts are from talking points written by imbeciles your reality tends to get warped and this is the results. Even worse, what he is arguing for is that Obama should immediately call it an act of terror before having all the facts.

It's pretty disheartening to think that a large number of our population thinks Romney is capable of leading this country.[/quote]

Whats disheartening is after 4 years people still think Obam can lead this country with his poor record.

BTW Romney was correct on the issue after the facts have been checked.

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Romney is holding a rally about a 1/4 down the road from my office. Its at 1:15 and this morning at 9:00 the parking lots were getting full and they had several open fields starting to fill up. I thought about bringing my bike to work and riding down there but I just don't have the time.


Governor Mitt Romney will hold a campaign rally Wednesday at a local community college in Chesapeake.

Governor Romney will speaking at Tidewater Community College located at 1428 Cedar Rd. Romney is scheduled to speak at 1:15 p.m.

Doors open at 10:45 a.m. Tickets are required for those wishing to attend the rally. The free tickets were available at TCC, Gov. Romney's campaign office in Virginia Beach and online. Anyone needing tickets can obtain them online leading up to the event.

Chesapeake's Public Works Department wants motorists in the area to be aware of possible traffic delays around TCC that might be caused by Gov. Romney's visit.

Elizabeth Vaughn with the City of Chesapeake said Cedar Road in the area of TCC could be affected. Drivers may also experience delays around Bells Mill Road, which also runs along campus.

Parking will be available at the corner of Cedar Road and Cahoon Parkway. Shuttles will be provided starting at 10 a.m.

WAVY.com will provide live coverage of the governor's visit online and WAVY News' Anne McNamara is scheduled to attend the rally.

The rally comes just a day after the former Massachusetts governor took on President Obama during a town hall-style debate in New York. The president was projected as the winner.

Both will face off in a third and final debate on Monday.

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[quote=firstdown;953418]Actually he did not call it an act of terror. Romney was right and the moderator needs to shut the F*&k up if she does not know what she is talking about.[/quote]

No, he wasn't right and she was.

[url=http://factcheck.org/2012/10/factchecking-the-hofstra-debate/]FactCheck.org : FactChecking the Hofstra Debate[/url]


[quote]The transcript does show that Obama said in a Rose Garden speech on Sept. 12: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.” That night, he said at a Las Vegas fundraiser: “No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America.”[/quote]