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[quote=SunnySide;1319034]It has EVERYTHING to do with christians pushing their religious beliefs onto all Americans.

There is zero point talking with you or anyone if you arent going to admit that the SCOTUS decision wasnt religious. Justice barrett talks in freaking tongues for fucks sake ....

Fuck christian nationalists and and anyone trying to play the "both sides" card[/quote]

Well, the majority of Americans identify themselves as Christians....so....

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[quote=SunnySide;1319034]It has EVERYTHING to do with christians pushing their religious beliefs onto all Americans.

There is zero point talking with you or anyone if you arent going to admit that the SCOTUS decision wasnt religious. Justice barrett talks in freaking tongues for fucks sake ....

Fuck Christian nationalists and and anyone trying to play the "both sides" card[/quote]

We're still one of only 6 countries in the world where it is legal to abort a healthy fetus from a healthy mother at anytime during pregnancy. Most of the 189 other countries aren't Christian, so the desire to regulate abortion is not strictly a Christian thing. The Supreme Court made the right decision. Even Ginsburg said Roe was a poorly decided case (that should have been a strong hint to Dems that they needed to pass legislation if they wanted to keep what Roe allowed (even as reprehensible as it was) through out the entire country).

How about this deal? Congress passes a bill that allows for abortions up to 15 weeks, but after 15 weeks 2-3 Drs have to sign off on an abortion affirming that it was to save the life of the mother. Essentially 98% of pre Dobbs abortions would be legal and less than 2% would come under strict regulation. That would put us in-line with what is acceptable in most of the rest of the world.

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[quote=nonniey;1319040]We're still one of only 6 countries in the world where it is legal to abort a healthy fetus from a healthy mother at anytime during pregnancy. Most of the 189 other countries aren't Christian, so the desire to regulate abortion is not strictly a Christian thing. The Supreme Court made the right decision. Even Ginsburg said Roe was a poorly decided case (that should have been a strong hint to Dems that they needed to pass legislation if they wanted to keep what Roe allowed (even as reprehensible as it was) through out the entire country).

How about this deal? Congress passes a bill that allows for abortions up to 15 weeks, but after 15 weeks 2-3 Drs have to sign off on an abortion affirming that it was to save the life of the mother. Essentially 98% of pre Dobbs abortions would be legal and less than 2% would come under strict regulation. That would put us in-line with what is acceptable in most of the rest of the world.[/quote]

Yes, that seems like a reasonable proposal to balancing when does the persons personal medical choices become something more than their own personal medical choices.

How about the justices on the SC dont let their personal religious convictions effect their legal rulings? They said Roe is "super precedent", conservatives laughed and assured us roe wouldnt be overturned and in less than 2 years .. Roe is overturned based not on constitutional or legal interpretation but 6 justices personal religious beliefs.

Ive never been more down on my country. I stand up in bars and restaurants when the national anthem is played on tv for sports games, i used to fly and american flag out front of my house, have an american flag car sticker.

Now .. fuck America. Fuck the religious conservatives and fuck anyone who tries to do "whataboutism" or "both sides ism"

Fuck america .. I dont think I stand for the national anthem any time soon

America is dead. now its an extreme pissing match where presidential campaign announcements are ..

["MAJOR announcement tomorrow morning from @GovRonDeSantis. Prepare for the liberal media meltdown of the year," Pushaw wrote. "Everyone get some rest tonight."]

Not whats best for our country .. but elect me and ill make liberals cry.

Fuck this country

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[quote=SunnySide;1319049]Yes, that seems like a reasonable proposal to balancing when does the persons personal medical choices become something more than their own personal medical choices.

How about the justices on the SC dont let their personal religious convictions effect their legal rulings? They said Roe is "super precedent", conservatives laughed and assured us roe wouldnt be overturned and in less than 2 years .. Roe is overturned based not on constitutional or legal interpretation but 6 justices personal religious beliefs.

Ive never been more down on my country. I stand up in bars and restaurants when the national anthem is played on tv for sports games, i used to fly and american flag out front of my house, have an american flag car sticker.

Now .. fuck America. Fuck the religious conservatives and fuck anyone who tries to do "whataboutism" or "both sides ism"

Fuck america .. I dont think I stand for the national anthem any time soon

America is dead. now its an extreme pissing match where presidential campaign announcements are ..

["MAJOR announcement tomorrow morning from @GovRonDeSantis. Prepare for the liberal media meltdown of the year," Pushaw wrote. "Everyone get some rest tonight."]

Not whats best for our country .. but elect me and ill make liberals cry.

Fuck this country[/quote]

[IMG]https://www.internetpillar.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/god-bless-america-quotes.jpg[/IMG]

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Sunnyside is mad at republicans because he knows how piss poor Biden and the democrat congress have literally run the country into the ground. He knows there are no excuses to lob, so it’s fuck this entire country.

Sunnyside…. you, me and Mooby are going to the 2nd Trump inauguration and eating a bunch of shrooms. Put it on the calendar. We will get through this and prevail

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[quote=Chico23231;1319052]Sunnyside is mad at republicans because he knows how piss poor Biden and the democrat congress have literally run the country into the ground. He knows there are no excuses to lob, so it’s fuck this entire country.

Sunnyside…. you, me and Mooby are going to the 2nd Trump inauguration and eating a bunch of shrooms. Put it on the calendar. We will get through this and prevail[/quote]

STFU

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Damn I heard Brittney Griner just signed a 9 year deal over in Russia. Congrats!

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[quote=Chico23231;1319059]Damn I heard Brittney Griner just signed a 9 year deal over in Russia. Congrats![/quote]

Too soon maybe...

The sentence is BS though, but I think everyone knew it was coming.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319060]Too soon maybe...

The sentence is BS though, but I think everyone knew it was coming.[/quote]

Total bullshit, she should be released today. “Drug smuggling”…for a single gram of whatever type of cannabis vape? It’s all political unfortunately

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[quote=Chico23231;1319059]Damn I heard Brittney Griner just signed a 9 year deal over in Russia. Congrats![/quote]

You think that Woman's life is a fucking joke???You're a fucking moron.

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[quote=Giantone;1319062]You think that Woman's life is a fucking joke???You're a fucking moron.[/quote]

Lighten up, Francis.

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Things getting testy in Texas!

[url]https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article264137281.html[/url]
[url]https://news.yahoo.com/texas-voters-don-t-democrats-100000190.html[/url]

Texas voters: You don’t have to like Democrats, but you do have to vote Republicans out


Since Gov. Greg Abbott took office, my property taxes have nearly tripled. His administration wastes billions on ineffective border initiatives and turns away billions for Medicaid expansion. Through our property taxes, urban homeowners bear the cost of providing health care to the 18% or so of Texans who don’t have insurance. Independents and reasonable Republicans: You don’t have to be a Democrat. You don’t have to like Democrats. But you must vote for Democrats this fall to rid Texas of Greg Abbott and his wrecking crew. They’ve run Texas for 22 years, and they’ve run it right into the ground.

Read more at: [url]https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article264137281.html#storylink=cpy[/url]

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Don't believe Trump and the GOP: Biden and the Democrats are winning
The fight for Democrats to maintain control of the Senate isn't lost yet.


[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2022/08/07/biden-democrats-win-inflation-reduction-act-jobs-report/10246233002/?gnt-cfr=1[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1319096]Don't believe Trump and the GOP: Biden and the Democrats are winning
The fight for Democrats to maintain control of the Senate isn't lost yet.


[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2022/08/07/biden-democrats-win-inflation-reduction-act-jobs-report/10246233002/?gnt-cfr=1[/url][/quote]

The Senate?? The GOP has already thrown that away with their bad Trump endorsed candidates. GOP had decent shots at Dem held seats in AZ, GA, NH and NV, but threw away any chance in AZ, GA which should have been a lock is leaning toward Warnock, NH and NEV are still tossups. But the real problem is holding Republican seats in OH, PA and WI. So at this point I expect the Dems to pick up 1-3 seats.

The house however will go GOP.

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I wonder how many missiles, rockets, bombs, etc. are in the bottom of the ocean? You always here about all these countries testing weapons. They all have to go somewhere.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319128]I wonder how many missiles, rockets, bombs, etc. are in the bottom of the ocean? You always here about all these countries testing weapons. They all have to go somewhere.[/quote]

What about ships sunk while at war, pretty sure they had weapons that were unexploded when they went down.

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[quote=Giantone;1319129]What about ships sunk while at war, pretty sure they had weapons that were unexploded when they went down.[/quote]

Ships is another good question. Even ones without bombs. Just the total number.

The bottom of all the oceans would be an amazing thing to see. And likely also quite depressing.

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chico's golden deity is at it again!


[url]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-generals-loyal-nazis-hitler-1393980/[/url]

Trump Said He Wanted Generals to Be Loyal to Him Like Nazis Were to Hitler: Report
The latest example of the former president seeing himself as a dictator comes in a shocking excerpt from The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319130]Ships is another good question. Even ones without bombs. Just the total number.

The bottom of all the oceans would be an amazing thing to see. And likely also quite depressing.[/quote]

Yes but if we ever reach that point we as a planet are done!

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[quote=Giantone;1319132]Yes but if we ever reach that point we as a planet are done![/quote]

Huh???

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[quote=Giantone;1319131]chico's golden deity is at it again!


[url]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-generals-loyal-nazis-hitler-1393980/[/url]

Trump Said He Wanted Generals to Be Loyal to Him Like Nazis Were to Hitler: Report
The latest example of the former president seeing himself as a dictator comes in a shocking excerpt from The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021[/quote]

You miss him 2 years later and post daily about him…

[IMG]https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FFPBnGRMXoAou8fN.jpg[/IMG]

Literally rent free

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[url]https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals[/url]

Good read for my liberal friends here.

Loved the intro - Trump wanted his military parade to be free of crippled soldiers - because he thought it would make him look bad. That guy definitely had his finger on the pulse. I can't believe the generals didn't honor his request! I don't like seeing cripples either, they gross me out. I prefer soldiers who didn't die or lose a body part in battle.

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[quote=mooby;1319147][url]https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals[/url]

Good read for my liberal friends here.

Loved the intro - Trump wanted his military parade to be free of crippled soldiers - because he thought it would make him look bad. That guy definitely had his finger on the pulse. I can't believe the generals didn't honor his request! I don't like seeing cripples either, they gross me out. I prefer soldiers who didn't die or lose a body part in battle.[/quote]

Not only for Liberals. I sent that to my Trumpy (who denies he's Trumpy) co-worker today. We've known and discussed about much of the stuff for years. They didn't even bring up the comment about soldiers being suckers in this article. This is the primary reason I could never vote for Trump and will vote for Biden again, even as bad as he is as a President, if Trump is his opponent.

I'd be interested in Chico's comments on this article.

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[quote=Chico23231;1319139]You miss him 2 years later and post daily about him…

[IMG]https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FFPBnGRMXoAou8fN.jpg[/IMG]

Literally rent free[/quote]

Too remind you of how stupid you were to elect him and how stupid you are to want him back!

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[quote=nonniey;1319148]Not only for Liberals. I sent that to my Trumpy (who denies he's Trumpy) co-worker today. We've known and discussed about much of the stuff for years. They didn't even bring up the comment about soldiers being suckers in this article. This is the primary reason I could never vote for Trump and will vote for Biden again, even as bad as he is as a President, if Trump is his opponent.

I'd be interested in Chico's comments on this article.[/quote]

Agreed. I don't think it's just for Liberals. It's probably a decent read for anyone who may fall outside the Trump 'cult-like' circle.

I really liked Mattis...

The military - Generals in particular - were put in impossible situations during his Presidency, but overall I think they handled it the best they could...as you would expect most Generals to do.

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[B]Hypocrite...........[/B]


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/firearms-banned-events-florida-gov-230034400.html[/url]


Firearms banned at events with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has argued 'gun-free' zones are less safe

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[quote=Giantone;1319159][B]Hypocrite...........[/B]


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/firearms-banned-events-florida-gov-230034400.html[/url]


Firearms banned at events with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has argued 'gun-free' zones are less safe[/quote]

First the Trump thing - which everybody said was probably a Secret Service policy - and now Desantis? What's his excuse.

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Great video of Biden having no fucking clue where he is, shakes hands with Shumar and tries to shake it again after forgetting he already shook it:

[url]https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/biden-shakes-schumers-hand-immediately-forgets-and-waits-for-another/video/695c4d5cab1ff2e75d8296ad6e2b42d4[/url]

Biden shakes Schumer’s hand, ‘immediately forgets’ and waits for another…at the Chips bill signing.

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It's a shame Cheney is going to lose next week. She unlike Trump is an actual conservative.

[url]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/the-conservative-case-in-favor-of-liz-cheney-is-overwhelming[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1319246]It's a shame Cheney is going to lose next week. She unlike Trump is an actual conservative.

[url]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/the-conservative-case-in-favor-of-liz-cheney-is-overwhelming[/url][/quote]

Liz Cheney is an actual conservative? Based on what?

Also, when you clearly go against your constituents, its a shame when you lose?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319247]Liz Cheney is an actual conservative? Based on what?

Also, when you clearly go against your constituents, its a shame when you lose?[/quote]

You're fucking clueless.

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[quote=Giantone;1319248]You're fucking clueless.[/quote]

Another great contribution! While I don't agree with Nonniey on this one, I didn't disrespect him. I just asked a few questions. And I know he's more than capable of answering for himself.

Somehow you gave yourself an unlimited membership to be a disrespectful asshole all the time.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319257]Another great contribution! While I don't agree with Nonniey on this one, I didn't disrespect him. I just asked a few questions. And I know he's more than capable of answering for himself.

Somehow you gave yourself an unlimited membership to be a disrespectful asshole all the time.[/quote]

LOL, , I guess you don't own a mirror? You get like this when you start to lose in the discussion, very entertaining.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319247]Liz Cheney is an actual conservative? Based on what?

[B]Also, when you clearly go against your constituents, its a shame when you lose?[/B][/quote]

So you're saying becuase her constituents think the election was stolen she has to go that way even when she know it wasn't? That's fucking stupid!

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[quote=Giantone;1319258]LOL, , I guess you don't own a mirror? You get like this when you start to lose in the discussion, very entertaining.[/quote]

You always think you win every discussion. But you're the only judge you ask. You're just an asshole. That's it. Not smart, not right, just an asshole.

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[quote=Giantone;1319259]So you're saying becuase her constituents think the election was stolen she has to go that way even when she know it wasn't? That's fucking stupid![/quote]

So anyone that doesn't vote for Cheney automatically did so because of Trump saying the election was stolen? No one can possibly not vote for her for any other reason?

I love how the Cheney family are now super trustworthy and should be voted for.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319263]So anyone that doesn't vote for Cheney automatically did so because of Trump saying the election was stolen? No one can possibly not vote for her for any other reason?

I love how the Cheney family are now super trustworthy and should be voted for.[/quote]
Not voting for the family , her!. You're the cry baby said she wasn't a conservative ,.................give us reasons?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319260]You always think you win every discussion. But you're the only judge you ask. You're just an asshole. That's it. Not smart, not right, just an asshole.[/quote]
See #1193 above response!

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[quote=Giantone;1319266]Not voting for the family , her!. You're the cry baby said she wasn't a conservative ,.................give us reasons?[/quote]

The Cheney family are neo-cons. I don't want Americans dying for other counties or for people to profit.

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[quote=Giantone;1319266]Not voting for the family , her!. You're the cry baby said she wasn't a conservative ,.................give us reasons?[/quote]

She just had her daddy make a commercial for her. Can we all stop pretending like family politics aren't family politics?