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Despite an awful season of injuries, all kinds of OL problems, no true #1 or #2wrs to throw too and his best TE out all yr, Kirk is still on pace for 4000 yards and a top 10 QB season. That is remarkable. Yeah some is the system but still that is insane... Guys that are considered better than him (Dak, Carr, Ryan) are all behind him with way more talent around them.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183725]Despite an awful season of injuries, all kinds of OL problems, no true #1 or #2wrs to throw too and his best TE out all yr, Kirk is still on pace for 4000 yards and a top 10 QB season. That is remarkable. Yeah some is the system but still that is insane... Guys that are considered better than him (Dak, Carr, Ryan) are all behind him with way more talent around them.[/quote]

Carr and Ryan have been disappointing. Man, Kyle Shanny removed from Atlanta has been costly. That offense has been underwhelming.

Carr had the injury but appears to be healthy now. He's been Joe flacco avg at best. Lotta talking heads had him as a top 10 QB going into the season...which turned out to be a false narrative.

Dak to me is the least surprising...He's a great game manager and he's been able to beat below avg teams. He's hasn't been able to win big games against good teams without a run game..he's struggled actually. Dak should get better, but he isn't a top 10 QB.

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[quote=Chico23231;1183736]Carr and Ryan have been disappointing. Man, Kyle Shanny removed from Atlanta has been costly. That offense has been underwhelming.

Carr had the injury but appears to be healthy now. He's been Joe flacco avg at best. Lotta talking heads had him as a top 10 QB going into the season...which turned out to be a false narrative.

[B]Dak to me is the least surprising...He's a great game manager and he's been able to beat below avg teams. He's hasn't been able to win big games against good teams without a run game..he's struggled actually. Dak should get better, but he isn't a top 10 QB.[/B][/quote]

By that rationale neither is Cousins.

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Carr has a bad back, Ryan is just off this yr which happens.. Dak is what he is and u guys know how I feel about the guy as a QB anyway.

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[quote=MTK;1183609]This idea that he needs to take a discount is ridiculous. The team needs to step up and pay him or he's gone. It's really that simple.[/quote]

I agree that they need to try to sign Cousins to a long term deal but not at all cost. If he is wanting top dollar I say no. If we pay him top dollar then we won't have the money to fix all of the issues. If Cousins is interested in staying here he might take a little less so the team can use some money to get him the help he needs to get to the playoffs as well as the super bowl. Then he can get the money back through endorsements/commercials. If he stays on a long term deal I got best RB available first. Our running game is horrible.

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[quote=Randall Nestor;1183796]I agree that they need to try to sign Cousins to a long term deal but not at all cost. If he is wanting top dollar I say no. If we pay him top dollar then we won't have the money to fix all of the issues. If Cousins is interested in staying here he might take a little less so the team can use some money to get him the help he needs to get to the playoffs as well as the super bowl. Then he can get the money back through endorsements/commercials. If he stays on a long term deal I got best RB available first. Our running game is horrible.[/quote]

I think that if the Skins get rid of Gruden and his staff and start all over again then it will cost the Skins top dollar to resign KC because at that point KC would know that the team is 2 years minimum from competing if they become competitive at all. He'd only be playing in Washington for the money so he'd want the most he can get and you cant blame him.

I think if KC was to give a "discount" it would be to teams that are on the verge of winning titles. Maybe Denver, maybe Pittsburgh (should Ben retire) or teams like that. He'd know he was going to those teams to win titles immediately not stuck in the same start over carousel that the Skins love to ride.

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

[url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/if-redskins-lose-kirk-cousins-here-are-8-possible-replacements?utm_content=buffer91050&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer]If the Redskins lose Kirk Cousins, here are 8 possible replacements | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

what do u guys think?

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We’ll see, I hope he’s right.

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Bolt/Charley-Casserly-believes-Kirk-Cousins-will-be-back--112585076[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183826][url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/if-redskins-lose-kirk-cousins-here-are-8-possible-replacements?utm_content=buffer91050&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer]If the Redskins lose Kirk Cousins, here are 8 possible replacements | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

what do u guys think?[/quote]

There's one option that I like more than all of those combined. Resign Cousins.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1183826][url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/if-redskins-lose-kirk-cousins-here-are-8-possible-replacements?utm_content=buffer91050&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer]If the Redskins lose Kirk Cousins, here are 8 possible replacements | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

what do u guys think?[/quote]

if cousins walks, I want Mayfield as I have said before. Not too enthused with the rest of the list..... And really we would have to see if Jay keeps his job or who gets newly appointed before thinking too much further into it i suppose.

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[quote=Meks;1183835]if cousins walks, I want Mayfield as I have said before. Not too enthused with the rest of the list..... And really we would have to see if Jay keeps his job or who gets newly appointed before thinking too much further into it i suppose.[/quote]

Mayfield is the last guy I'd want on that list. He's just too small and IMO he's the second coming of Johnny Manzell. Taylor is probably my #1 pick on that not so great list.

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[quote=irish;1183839]Mayfield is the last guy I'd want on that list. He's just too small and IMO he's the second coming of Johnny Manzell. Taylor is probably my #1 pick on that not so great list.[/quote]

I still don't understand that Manziel comparison... Baker doesn't do coke and get waisted every night.

Re: Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1183826][url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/if-redskins-lose-kirk-cousins-here-are-8-possible-replacements?utm_content=buffer91050&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer]If the Redskins lose Kirk Cousins, here are 8 possible replacements | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

what do u guys think?[/QUOTE]I think all college prospects are toss ups, not an expert but not sure if the chances of a mid 1st round pick panning out are higher than 50/50.

Among the veterans, I do think Case Keenum could be a viable option at, maybe, a fair price (but we've seen how crazy the market can get with a seemingly good QB). But it's hard to tell based on one good season.

I don't believe Tyord Taylor is a guy that can carry a team to the top, without a very solid team around him. But he has some upside if used correctly.

I don't know how realistic the Dalton option is, at times he has shown he can deliver. I still think Cousins has proven he can be better than him.

Bradford and McCoy simply aren't viable options IMO.

...

Sign him.

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[QUOTE=irish;1183839]Mayfield is the last guy I'd want on that list. He's just too small and IMO he's the second coming of Johnny Manzell. Taylor is probably my #1 pick on that not so great list.[/QUOTE]Maybe Taylor could be signed at a pretty low price and give time to a draft choice to develop?

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This conversation just makes me ask is it july yet (the real end of the FT on Cousins discussion forever)