Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

You're hard to please, Skinsfanatic!

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[quote=MTK;1230446]SF and NE could both use an upgrade, trade Trent now[/quote]


This. x 100

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Minkah Fitzpatrick and Jalen Ramsey are both available, we are short on DB help. Could this be the trade that Trent is involved in?

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[quote=calia;1230473]You're hard to please, Skinsfanatic![/quote]

On the plus side, as a Skins fan I am used to the disappointment.

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[quote=calia;1230471]Ok. We keep Trent who apologizes and plays like he has to make amends to the team, and to AP in particular. He mauls defenders for the rest of the season. Ramsey and Fitzpatrick are so taken by his selflessness that they decide they want to play here and for the new DC Tomsula. They somehow convince their respective teams to do a straight up trade - Moses for Ramsey (Penn slides to RT) and Colt for Fitzpatrick.

Snyder sells the team to Jon Bon Jovi, and he immediately does a deal with DC to build New RFK with bleachers designed to bounce and a promotion for cheap tix for DC, MD, and VA residents - a promotion that magically rescinds if you are caught wearing anything that smacks of Eagles, Cowboys, or Giants colors.

Jay decides he was, indeed, over his head and steps back to OC, giving the reins to O’Connell who becomes the east coast equivalent of McVay.

We rout the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

How’s that?


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Can I do the Scareface helicopter scene with Bruce Allen over the stadium? And I want a weed dispensary in the new stadium.
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[quote=Chico23231;1230480]Can I do the Scareface helicopter scene with Bruce Allen over the stadium? And I want a weed dispensary in the new stadium.
.[/quote]

In addition to the Ring of Honor, there will also be a Ring of Dishonor -- fans will bond over the inclusion of names such as Haynesworth, Cerrato, Archuletta, and B. Allen. There will be voo doo dolls with their likenesses, and prizes given our for the best limericks that make fun of them. Oh, and there will be a slushie machine.

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[quote=calia;1230483]In addition to the Ring of Honor, there will also be a Ring of Dishonor -- fans will bond over the inclusion of names such as Haynesworth, Cerrato, Archuletta, and B. Allen. There will be voo doo dolls with their likenesses, and prizes given our for the best limericks that make fun of them. Oh, and there will be a slushie machine.[/quote]

Cheerleaders in thongs and pasties?

Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

[quote=calia;1230471]Ok. We keep Trent who apologizes and plays like he has to make amends to the team, and to AP in particular. He mauls defenders for the rest of the season. Ramsey and Fitzpatrick are so taken by his selflessness that they decide they want to play here and for the new DC Tomsula. They somehow convince their respective teams to do a straight up trade - Moses for Ramsey (Penn slides to RT) and Colt for Fitzpatrick.

Snyder sells the team to Jon Bon Jovi, and he immediately does a deal with DC to build New RFK with bleachers designed to bounce and a promotion for cheap tix for DC, MD, and VA residents - a promotion that magically rescinds if you are caught wearing anything that smacks of Eagles, Cowboys, or Giants colors.

Jay decides he was, indeed, over his head and steps back to OC, giving the reins to O’Connell who becomes the east coast equivalent of McVay.

We rout the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

How’s that?


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:laughing2

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Get a first rounder for TW and move on.

Notice to those saying to “hold the line with TW”. Scherff has pulled out of contract talks.


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[quote=Chico23231;1230486]Cheerleaders in thongs and pasties?[/quote]

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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

[quote=chico23231;1230480]can i do the scareface helicopter scene with bruce allen over the stadium? And i want a weed dispensary in the new stadium.

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[quote=calia;1230471]ok. We keep trent who apologizes and plays like he has to make amends to the team, and to ap in particular. He mauls defenders for the rest of the season. Ramsey and fitzpatrick are so taken by his selflessness that they decide they want to play here and for the new dc tomsula. They somehow convince their respective teams to do a straight up trade - moses for ramsey (penn slides to rt) and colt for fitzpatrick.

Snyder sells the team to jon bon jovi, and he immediately does a deal with dc to build new rfk with bleachers designed to bounce and a promotion for cheap tix for dc, md, and va residents - a promotion that magically rescinds if you are caught wearing anything that smacks of eagles, cowboys, or giants colors.

Jay decides he was, indeed, over his head and steps back to oc, giving the reins to o’connell who becomes the east coast equivalent of mcvay.

We rout the patriots in the super bowl.

How’s that?


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[quote=calia;1230483]in addition to the ring of honor, there will also be a ring of dishonor -- fans will bond over the inclusion of names such as haynesworth, cerrato, archuletta, and b. Allen. There will be voo doo dolls with their likenesses, and prizes given our for the best limericks that make fun of them. Oh, and there will be a slushie machine.[/quote]



this all made me literally lol

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Pats just put their LT on IR

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1230616]Pats just put their LT on IR[/QUOTE]Bruce. You gotta make a trade

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Another fan site has an article:

Trent Williams will NEVER play as a Redskin again!

Basically BA needs to stop playing chicken and start work a trade before the end of October.


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[quote=Warthog;1230619]Another fan site has an article:

Trent Williams will NEVER play as a Redskin again!

Basically BA needs to stop playing chicken and start work a trade before the end of October.


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Bruce is waiting for the call of desperation from a team.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1230625]Bruce is waiting for the call of desperation from a team.[/quote]

As he should be. We just need a little more patient before Bruce takes a desperate contender to the cleaners in a trade for Trent. We'll get more than just a first rounder.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1230477]Minkah Fitzpatrick and Jalen Ramsey are both available, we are short on DB help. Could this be the trade that Trent is involved in?[/QUOTE]



I’d trade Norman for Ramsey straight up, and Trent to Miami for a 1st and Fitzpatrick. Miami will be looking to replace the tackle they just lost in the trade to the Texans.


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At this point trade the big baby

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Dolphins won't trade for TW they want youth. I'd at least talk to the Jags about TW for Ramsey. Then drop DRC and use the roster spot for depth from FA. See if we can find a diamond RT in the rough?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1230618]Bruce. You gotta make a trade

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Pats: "Hey, we offered a first. How about a second now? ;)"

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Bruce will fuck this up, like he fucked up the Cousins situation. Both high profile, valuable players...and will get peanuts for both.

Kyle Shanny would have given a 1st and def more for Cousins...but because Snyder and Bruce hated Kyle, they wouldn't work with him. Complete shit show and how not to run a front office...holding assets and getting junk status trades.

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1230630]I’d trade Norman for Ramsey straight up, and Trent to Miami for a 1st and Fitzpatrick. Miami will be looking to replace the tackle they just lost in the trade to the Texans.


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Nobody would take Norman for Ramsey lol

Fitzpatrick was traded to the Steelers. Besides, Miami are clearly sellers right now, not buyers.



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2 teams that would trade for Trent and make sense IMO

1: Cleveland - Needs a LT bad
2. NE - Would be unstoppable

But the skins want multiple picks per the reports and nobody will do that, swallow pride and deal him for a 1 and move on

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[QUOTE=MTK;1230661]Nobody would take Norman for Ramsey lol

Fitzpatrick was traded to the Steelers. Besides, Miami are clearly sellers right now, not buyers.



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Seriously Norman for Ramsey? Who the hell is gonna trade the younger better corner for the older overrated one?

Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

Just heard Donald Penn with Doc Walker this morning. The guy sounds like a leader and a big help for Flowers and Christian.
Hopefully he can hold up against Khalil Mack.

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Word is out that Jags want 2 first round picks, and more for Ramsey.
Translation . . . Ramsey is staying in Jax.

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[quote=punch it in;1230673]Seriously Norman for Ramsey? Who the hell is gonna trade the younger better corner for the older overrated one?[/quote]

I'd also trade older shittier player for younger better one.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1230665]2 teams that would trade for Trent and make sense IMO

1: Cleveland - Needs a LT bad
2. NE - Would be unstoppable

But the skins want multiple picks per the reports and nobody will do that, swallow pride and deal him for a 1 and move on[/quote]

In some ways I think the Skins prefer to let him hold out and take the cap relief instead of trade him.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1230630][B]I’d trade Norman for Ramsey straight up[/B], and Trent to Miami for a 1st and Fitzpatrick. Miami will be looking to replace the tackle they just lost in the trade to the Texans.


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:yeahright: :silly: :lol: :saywhat:

Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

[quote=5superbowls3wins;1230630]I’d trade Norman for Ramsey straight up, and Trent to Miami for a 1st and Fitzpatrick. Miami will be looking to replace the tackle they just lost in the trade to the Texans.


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How old are you?

GTFOH with this shit.

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Now the Chiefs are in need of a LT
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kmbc.com/amp/article/kansas-city-chiefs-left-tackle-eric-fisher-to-have-groin-surgery-in-philadelphia-cam-erving-replace/29110283[/url]

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My problem with the idea of trading Williams to contender teams in need for LT is late draft picks. Contender teams are expected to have late 1st round pick, which equivalents to 2nd round picks and we all know Redskins's history with 2nd round picks.

Edit: I can see a workaround this issue - we could package Redskins's 1st round pick with late 1st round pick that we got for Williams, to move up and draft a top 2-3 LT player BUT this requires things that are out of Redskins' control to fall together.

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[quote=GridIron26;1230729]My problem with the idea of trading Williams to contender teams in need for LT is late draft picks. Contender teams are expected to have late 1st round pick, which equivalents to 2nd round picks and we all know Redskins's history with 2nd round picks.

Edit: I can see a workaround this issue - we could package Redskins's 1st round pick with late 1st round pick that we got for Williams, to move up and draft a top 2-3 LT player BUT this requires things that are out of Redskins' control to fall together.[/quote]

I’m ok with it if they throw Kendall Fuller in the deal.

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[quote=GridIron26;1230729]My problem with the idea of trading Williams to contender teams in need for LT is late draft picks. Contender teams are expected to have late 1st round pick, which equivalents to 2nd round picks and we all know Redskins's history with 2nd round picks.

Edit: I can see a workaround this issue - we could package Redskins's 1st round pick with late 1st round pick that we got for Williams, to move up and draft a top 2-3 LT player BUT this requires things that are out of Redskins' control to fall together.[/quote]

I dont see any team trading a 1st for Trent, especially a non-contending team that will have a top 15 pick. Id prefer 2 2nds anyway.

Bigger roadblock I think is that Trent only has 1 more year on his current deal with a 2020 14.6M cap hit. I think it will require a "sign and trade" so the new team has a guarantee Trent is committed for reasonable value beyond 2020.

Sign and trade seems impossible with a guy like Bruce doing the "communications".

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1230723]Now the Chiefs are in need of a LT
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kmbc.com/amp/article/kansas-city-chiefs-left-tackle-eric-fisher-to-have-groin-surgery-in-philadelphia-cam-erving-replace/29110283[/url][/quote]

I would rather trade Trent to the Chiefs than the Pats, those mf'ers don't need any more help.

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at this point I don't care where he goes and I don't care about cap relief because our situation going into next year is very good, even with Albatross Smith contract. Norman, Reed, TW, and AP will all most like be gone...that's a lot of dough. Also, Kerrigan doesn't have a lot if any guaranteed money left next year either. Vernon davis and CT contract are up as well.

I really want Bruce gone now, because there will be a lot at stake personel wise this coming off season....lot of old players out and most likely a Coaching staff decision. BRUCE NEEDS TO GO BEFORE THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE.

I want picks for Trent now

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1230729]My problem with the idea of trading Williams to contender teams in need for LT is late draft picks. Contender teams are expected to have late 1st round pick, which equivalents to 2nd round picks and we all know Redskins's history with 2nd round picks.



Edit: I can see a workaround this issue - we could package Redskins's 1st round pick with late 1st round pick that we got for Williams, to move up and draft a top 2-3 LT player BUT this requires things that are out of Redskins' control to fall together.[/QUOTE]



The Redskins are going to have a top 5-10 pick. Maybe higher. So trading TW to basically move up a spot or two or three seems silly to me. Get whatever you can for him before we get nothing. It doesn’t really freakin matter because until Burns and Smithers are gone we are doomed. Burns is never leaving, and Smithers is whoever the fuck he hires to do his bidding. Basically the Once proud franchise is extinct and there is nothing we can do but remember the good ole days. Fuck you Dan Snyder. You idiot.

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It seems like everyone is in denial. Lol. As long as Snyder is in charge there will never be real football minds here. Is it because he doesn’t want to be the mastermind? Is it because he has no idea who that might be? Is it because no sought after gm would ever work for him? Combination of all three most likely. We are a one step forward two steps back organization. Something happens- a pick, a free agent acquisition, a seemingly smart hire in the FO, and we all think holy shit FINALLY we are headed in the right direction and than its carnage two fold.
Free yourselves from the agony that is the worst owner in sports. Go fly kites on Sundays. Spend time with your families. Maybe fly kites with your families. Make your weeks whole again during football season.

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[quote=punch it in;1230741]It seems like everyone is in denial. Lol. [/quote]

really? It seems like everyone is on the same page and have been for a long time. Perhaps we have degrees of just how bad it is but I think everyone knows we have one of the worst organizations in all of sports.

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[quote=SunnySide;1230742]really? It seems like everyone is on the same page and have been for a long time. Perhaps we have degrees of just how bad it is but I think everyone knows we have one of the worst organizations in all of sports.[/quote]

Bottom 5 in football no doubt