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[quote=punch it in;1284158]I know. Was just wondering what you thought about holding onto him for trade bait ....[/quote]

I think if someone wanted him they would have pounced right away. I have no problem giving him the chance to catch on somewhere else vs holding him captive for a late round pick that will probably never come.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1284159]I think if someone wanted him they would have pounced right away. I have no problem giving him the chance to catch on somewhere else vs holding him captive for a late round pick that will probably never come.[/QUOTE]



Yeah. Agreed. It is the right thing to do.

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Under Bruce there's no doubt we would have done something petty like hold on to him. It's good to have adults running the show now.

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I mean..I don't think him backing another player is the end all be all, but in that situation, Trent was trying to hold the team hostage...and the more it played out, the more it was him using excuses to get more money on a contract that he already signed. Not to rehash that whole situation, but he knew not having a lt on the team would be debilitating...and he used that, and Moses backed it. Like...f>×_ the team...he should get that money. That's all I meant.
This does seem like financial planning for the year after this, though.
Regardless....he is not irreplaceable. Haven't been a fan of his for a while now, honestly. Can't stress enough....those penalties

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[quote=punch it in;1284153]Maybe but I was just addressing the comments by EdmundDorf about why they released him now instead of waiting to see if someone got desperate and offered a trade for him. I think it is a valid point. And yeah totally agree about ur take on him supporting a teammate.[/quote]

I feel like releasing him now may indicate there is another veteran out there they may want to pick up (KJ Wright, Julio Jones, Aaron Rodgers; not necessarily in that order). 😉

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[quote=SkinzWin;1284194]I feel like releasing him now may indicate there is another veteran out there they may want to pick up (KJ Wright, Julio Jones, Aaron Rodgers; not necessarily in that order). 😉[/quote]

I hope the money is used to extend Allen or Payne.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1284173]I mean..I don't think him backing another player is the end all be all, but in that situation, Trent was trying to hold the team hostage...and the more it played out, the more it was him using excuses to get more money on a contract that he already signed. Not to rehash that whole situation, but he knew not having a lt on the team would be debilitating...and he used that, and Moses backed it. Like...f>×_ the team...he should get that money. That's all I meant.
This does seem like financial planning for the year after this, though.
Regardless....he is not irreplaceable. Haven't been a fan of his for a while now, honestly. Can't stress enough....those penalties[/quote]

I never interpreted Trent situation as him just holding team hostage for money.
He almost died from what he perceives to be a misdiagnosis.
While I think he felt underpaid, stop and really ponder if it would really be all about money for you if team told you no problem, and then you had to have a brain tumor removed! That's FAR more important to Trent than retiring with $30M more in bank when he's already worth $50M+ at that point. I think he honestly felt he would never trust existing medical staff and FO again, and I don't blame him.

We can't know Washington's side because of HIPAA confidentiality, they are NOT allowed to disclose private medical info. Pro athletes are usually uneducated (despite having college degrees) with low IQs. It is entirely possible situation was explained to Trent correctly and he misinterpreted. Nonetheless, when you look at case history, right up to today with Allen BS, Trent's side is hardly ridiculous. Is there anyone besides Gibbs who has left Washington that hasn't been smeared or cornholed by THE DAN? Could be more systemic incompetency poor culture than some Dr. Evil let's kill Trent scenario. I mean Jesus, people have been complaining about our turf for a decade plus, we're just now doing it.

If they were going to punish Moses punitively, would have been done long before now. THE DAN has eaten millions upon millions to be the petulant turd of a human being he is, eating $20M to cut Moses years ago would have been NO problem. I think it is simply about RR making a smart personnel move. As you observe, penalties, but also getting absolutely destroyed in pass coverage off the edge far too often. He epitomizes our old paper tiger OL. Against better edge rushers he gets exposed. Moses is right siding with Trent, and I have nothing negative to say about his character, work ethic, etc., solely analysis of his play. We have MUCH cheaper players that are better pass blockers, period.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1284194]I feel like releasing him now may indicate there is another veteran out there they may want to pick up (KJ Wright, Julio Jones, Aaron Rodgers; not necessarily in that order). 😉[/quote]

Nah. They aren't making any dumb trades.
And they can sign most anyone with super low number this year that balloons later years.

This was about being able to pick up several lineman, Leno Flowers, that no one knew for sure would be available, and draft one, Cosmi, that made a number of players expendable.

Suppose Leno mans LT. I think Cosmi is a day one starter at RT, though I prefer letting him try LT. Day one Cosmi is at least as good a pass blocker as Moses. Cosmi is making $6.7M over 4 years. He will cost less over four years than Moses would have this year. This is a case study in why draft picks are gold and you don't trade up in most cases. Belicheat in NE always LOVED high second round picks because you could get 1st round talent, if you draft smart, for super cheap deals. Cosmi costs 15%-20% of what Moses does, roughly, if you average value of his rookie deal over 4 years. Other teams that have 3-5 more picks than us per year, comp especially, or trade back aggressively or for future picks aggressively, will always be better if both run competently because of this dynamic.

Our FO did it right. You get rid of older players, replace them with draft picks, and spend most of your cap money signing young players you drafted who have proven success in your building, organization, and program and scheme. If you draft well long term, virtually all big deals go to players you drafted and know, which we are rolling up on hopefully. Better teams are always ruthless about getting rid of aging players. It is a cold blooded business, but letting guys like Moses, Kerrigan, etc., go was the right choice.

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Scalper: I've given you a hard time before. And am still kinda doing it here.

Every once in a while, I'll read thru one of these novels, and I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying.

But for the most part, I just scroll past your posts, because it's just too much to read. This isn't a news site, it's a fan site.

I'm assuming you're posting here to engage with other fans, so that's why I'm saying this. I'm sure others agree. Less words please. It's America, so do what you want, but less words lol.

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[quote=Scalper;1284196]I never interpreted Trent situation as him just holding team hostage for money.
He almost died from what he perceives to be a misdiagnosis.
While I think he felt underpaid, stop and really ponder if it would really be all about money for you if team told you no problem, and then you had to have a brain tumor removed! That's FAR more important to Trent than retiring with $30M more in bank when he's already worth $50M+ at that point. I think he honestly felt he would never trust existing medical staff and FO again, and I don't blame him.

[/quote]

Ok, let's not get it twisted...he had a form of skin cancer, not a BRAIN TUMOR. Many doctors misdiagnose...medical practice is not fool proof. The team docs were monitoring the situation and when they thought it might be something more serious, they referred him to a specialist who made the cancer diagnosis. Cancer is often not found when we would like it to be found...it's F'n cancer... That's why Cancer sucks...

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1284198]Scalper: I've given you a hard time before. And am still kinda doing it here.



Every once in a while, I'll read thru one of these novels, and I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying.



But for the most part, I just scroll past your posts, because it's just too much to read. This isn't a news site, it's a fan site.



I'm assuming you're posting here to engage with other fans, so that's why I'm saying this. I'm sure others agree. Less words please. It's America, so do what you want, but less words lol.[/QUOTE]



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agree about less words.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1284199]Ok, let's not get it twisted...he had a form of skin cancer, not a BRAIN TUMOR. Many doctors misdiagnose...medical practice is not fool proof. The team docs were monitoring the situation and when they thought it might be something more serious, they referred him to a specialist who made the cancer diagnosis. Cancer is often not found when we would like it to be found...it's F'n cancer... That's why Cancer sucks...[/quote]

Trent Williams had MAJOR surgery. I don't believe everything we heard through the media, and again, team can't say their side of the story, while Trent can, so I factor that in. I watched Trent describe his operation, and he made it VERY clear publicly he thought the medical staff had been negligent. I don't know the truth, no one who isn't Trent or the staff does, but Trent's beef with us was about WAY more than money. Whether he was "right" or "wrong," I can't say, but it wasn't just a money grab. He felt (again right or wrong) the staff had contributed to his medical problems via negligence and this was a HUGE factor in his leaving.

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[quote=punch it in;1284202]I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really
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agree about less words.[/quote]

LOL.
That is a hilarious post.
I write the way I write and not dumbing it down.
Feel free to continue busting my balls though, LOL.

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[QUOTE=Scalper;1284209]LOL.

That is a hilarious post.

I write the way I write and not dumbing it down.

Feel free to continue busting my balls though, LOL.[/QUOTE]You don't have to dumb it down to be concise. The Gettysburg address had 275 words and encapsulated the whole definition of the civil war. I think we can articulate our thoughts on a particular football issue in fewer words.

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[QUOTE=Scalper;1284209]LOL.

That is a hilarious post.

I write the way I write and not dumbing it down.

Feel free to continue busting my balls though, LOL.[/QUOTE]


Like SD said it is just too time consuming to read your posts. You can post as long of a post as you would like, but if you actually want people to read them you should just get to your point quicker.
A message board is alot like a real life conversation- back and forth. You are having an entire discussion in one post and if one person won’t stop talking the other person is going to walk away. Sounds like you are very educated, insightful, and passionate but it is all wasted if people do not read them, and there is no way me and SD are the only ones scrolling past them for times sake.

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[quote=Scalper;1284209]LOL.
That is a hilarious post.
I write the way I write and not dumbing it down.
Feel free to continue busting my balls though, LOL.[/quote]

Since brevity is the soul of wit / And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes, I will be brief…

----Shakespeare's Hamlet

But, you do you.

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[QUOTE=Scalper;1284208]Trent Williams had MAJOR surgery. I don't believe everything we heard through the media, and again, team can't say their side of the story, while Trent can, so I factor that in. I watched Trent describe his operation, and he made it VERY clear publicly he thought the medical staff had been negligent. I don't know the truth, no one who isn't Trent or the staff does, but Trent's beef with us was about WAY more than money. Whether he was "right" or "wrong," I can't say, but it wasn't just a money grab. He felt (again right or wrong) the staff had contributed to his medical problems via negligence and this was a HUGE factor in his leaving.[/QUOTE]


I totally believe this to be the case.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1284212]Since brevity is the soul of wit / And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes, I will be brief…

----Shakespeare's Hamlet

But, you do you.[/quote]

I am long-winded at times.
I also refuse to dumb down for a generation which thinks 140 characters is meaningful communication.
Would you prefer posts in iambic pentameter? :-)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284210]You don't have to dumb it down to be concise. The Gettysburg address had 275 words and encapsulated the whole definition of the civil war. I think we can articulate our thoughts on a particular football issue in fewer words.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

A bullshit propagandized definition of the war. The Civil War was about tariffs, not slavery. Emancipation was just to propagandize an unpopular war and make it popular. The GA was effective propaganda, but let's not mistake it for historical fact.

Propaganda for plebs must always be brief and dumbed down, and this is one reason our democracy is crumbling. The infantile attention spans of social media junkies, whose brains are wired like those of heroin addicts, make meaningful public discourse on crucial issues impossible. That being said, my posts are often too long, I use voice rec. and don't type them though.

Lincoln went through no fewer than a half dozen revisions to get a long address short. Shakespeare, whoever he was, revised his plays for brevity. I hammer out my posts, not revising them like GA or plays. :-)

I am fine with everyone busting my balls though. It is funny and I deserve it at times. LOL.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1284132]

I am all for forward thinking when it comes to managing the cap and keeping the young building blocks, and if they prefer the other options they have at OT then great save cap space when final cuts come. No need to cut him today, doesn't save you a bean compared to cutting him at final roster cuts ( unless he has some odd date in his contract where his salary is guaranteed).

[/quote]

One of the main challenges, before you factor in the COVID farce, of present structure of NFL is stringent rep limitations. You could bring Moses in and have him do nothing, but otherwise you are taking reps from players like Charles and Cosmi that desperately need them to develop. The current CBA favors teams with continuity big time.

I think the FO saw Moses' film and knew he had lost a step, and had decided he was gone no matter what with Leno and Cosmi on roster, because his contract overpaid him relative to his present production level and talent. One reason people love RR is that he is a players coach. Leno said this is why he signed. Releasing Moses early gives him a chance to sign on somewhere else, and is a class move that typifies RR and why players love him. The FO had obviously 1,000% decided Moses was gone, maybe they wanted him to take a pay cut he refused, and it was the right decision. The reps can now go to players competing for starting spots and learning our system, rather than those with one (slow) foot out the door.

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[quote=Scalper;1284215]I am long-winded at times.
I also refuse to dumb down for a generation which thinks 140 characters is meaningful communication.
Would you prefer posts in iambic pentameter? :-)[/quote]

[url]https://www.wordnik.com/words/wit[/url]

Wit does not equal "dumbing it down."

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[quote=Scalper;1284217]One of the main challenges, before you factor in the COVID farce, of present structure of NFL is stringent rep limitations. You could bring Moses in and have him do nothing, but otherwise you are taking reps from players like Charles and Cosmi that desperately need them to develop. The current CBA favors teams with continuity big time.

I think the FO saw Moses' film and knew he had lost a step, and had decided he was gone no matter what with Leno and Cosmi on roster, because his contract overpaid him relative to his present production level and talent. One reason people love RR is that he is a players coach. Leno said this is why he signed. Releasing Moses early gives him a chance to sign on somewhere else, and is a class move that typifies RR and why players love him. The FO had obviously 1,000% decided Moses was gone, maybe they wanted him to take a pay cut he refused, and it was the right decision. The reps can now go to players competing for starting spots and learning our system, rather than those with one (slow) foot out the door.[/quote]

A good point, it also occured to me after my statement that if he were injured while they were holding on to him then they would be on the hook for his salary this year, so from that perspective cutting him now rather than later was a better idea

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1284212]Since brevity is the soul of wit / And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes, I will be brief…

----Shakespeare's Hamlet

But, you do you.[/quote]

Ce que l’on conçoit bien s’énonce clairement, Et les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément.

Nicolas Boileau

Whatever is well conceived is clearly said, And the words to say it flow with ease.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1284220]Ce que l’on conçoit bien s’énonce clairement, Et les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément.

Nicolas Boileau

Whatever is well conceived is clearly said, And the words to say it flow with ease.[/quote]

Bien dit!

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Ryan Fitzpatrick can make history this season ..... and not in a good way.

He could be the only QB in NFL history to have lost to 31 different franchises.

3 QB's have wins over all 32 NFL franchises (Brees, Favre, P. Manning). No QB has losses to all 32 franchises. Ryan can get the closest if the Skins lose to Green Bay, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay. Anyway ... linked to article, and copied and pasted below ...



[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/23/ryan-fitzpatrick-can-become-first-starting-qb-to-lose-to-31-different-teams/[/url]

[I]Three starting quarterbacks in NFL history have wins over all 32 NFL teams: Drew Brees, Brett Favre and Peyton Manning. Tom Brady will join that list if his Buccaneers beat the Patriots this season. And Aaron Rodgers could join the list too if he ends up on another team, and that team beats the Packers. But no quarterback has accomplished the feat of losing to all 32 teams.

Washington quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick can come the closest this season.

Fitzpatrick has lost to 28 different teams as a starting quarterback, according to Pro Football Reference. Of the four teams he hasn’t lost to, three are on Washington’s schedule this season: The Packers, Saints and Buccaneers. If Fitzpatrick loses to those three teams, he’ll have lost to an all-time record 31 NFL teams. (The Lions are the one team Fitzpatrick hasn’t lost to and won’t play this season.)

Although no starting quarterback has lost to 31 or 32 different teams, seven have lost to 30: Drew Bledsoe, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Matt Hasselbeck, Jon Kitna, Carson Palmer and Alex Smith. One quarterback, Kerry Collins, has lost to 29 teams. But all of those quarterbacks are retired, so they can’t reach 31 losses like Fitzpatrick.

In addition to Fitzpatrick, the other quarterbacks who have lost to 28 different teams in their careers are Derek Carr, Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco, Jeff George, Eli Manning, Warren Moon, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan and Vinny Testaverde. Carr, Flacco, Roethlisberger and Ryan can still add to their totals, but none can reach 31 different teams this season like Fitzpatrick can: Ryan’s Falcons only play two of the four teams he hasn’t lost to, while Carr’s Raiders and Roethlisberger’s Steelers play one each. Flacco’s Eagles play two of the teams he hasn’t lost to, but he’s not expected to start this season, so Flacco is unlikely to add to his total.

Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford have each lost to 27 different teams, but none of them can add more than three new losses this season, so none can catch Fitzpatrick.

In a strange way, losing to all 32 teams is a more difficult accomplishment than beating all 32 teams: Quarterbacks who lose a lot of games usually get benched or cut and don’t last long enough to lose to all 32 teams. It’s hard to keep a starting job for a long time while losing a lot of games. But Fitzpatrick has been a starter for eight different franchises, and Washington will be his ninth. He’s had an unusual career, and this year he can do something unprecedented in NFL history.
[/I]

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Monday morning cringe clip:

[url]https://www.tmz.com/videos/2021-05-19-051921-daniel-snyder-1083297/[/url]

Snyder touring across the world for “stadium ideas.” This seems kinda staged but why does Snyder seem so awkward? Glad Jason is now advising him…and Snyder is staying out of football decisions

So let me get this straight…Snyder won’t talk or give interviews to the press, yet speaking to *checks notes*…TMZ? Jfc…

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1284218][url]https://www.wordnik.com/words/wit[/url]

Wit does not equal "dumbing it down."[/quote]

Nor does dumbing it down equal wit. :-)

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been gone a few days moving but I'm surprised they couldn't trade Moses for a 5th at least but oh well

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1284223]Monday morning cringe clip:

[url]https://www.tmz.com/videos/2021-05-19-051921-daniel-snyder-1083297/[/url]

Snyder touring across the world for “stadium ideas.” This seems kinda staged but why does Snyder seem so awkward? Glad Jason is now advising him…and Snyder is staying out of football decisions

So let me get this straight…Snyder won’t talk or give interviews to the press, yet speaking to *checks notes*…TMZ? Jfc…[/QUOTE]


Good catch, Chico. Perfect as the jet-setting douchebag . . . much better he gets boney over a new stadium than over a new draft pick. His concern about what Washington fans “deserve” is touching.

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[quote=HTTR;1284226]Good catch, Chico. Perfect as the jet-setting douchebag . . . much better he gets boney over a new stadium than over a new draft pick. His concern about what Washington fans “deserve” is touching.[/quote]

I really wonder what Jason thinks….he seems reasonable, relaxed and normal. I would love to sit back with a beer or bourbon with Jason Wright and just ask him what’s it like working for Snyder.

This was just the weirdest, wtf Snyder moment I’ve seen in awhile. TMZ folks, TMZ

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1284225]been gone a few days moving but I'm surprised they couldn't trade Moses for a 5th at least but oh well[/quote]

Moving? You should be in the grinding your gears thread.

I think they did Moses a solid giving him the choice where to play. Would have loved to get a pick, but team leverage is probably at its lowest around this time of year.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1284227]I really wonder what Jason thinks….he seems reasonable, relaxed and normal. I would love to sit back with a beer or bourbon with Jason Wright and just ask him what’s it like working for Snyder.

This was just the weirdest, wtf Snyder moment I’ve seen in awhile. TMZ folks, TMZ[/QUOTE]


Jason looks to me how most employees look in the presence of their billionaire bosses — slightly awkward, eager to please, and committed to the party line. I admit that’s how I’d be lol. I just hope there’s a line of self-debasement he won’t cross. Maybe he turns down the invitation to watch cheerleader videos in Dan’s suite.

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Dan's probably got a home cinema set up for that. Doubt he'd do it at the stadium/offices. He's not THAT stupid is he?

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[QUOTE=Pervis_Griffith;1284222]Ryan Fitzpatrick can make history this season ..... and not in a good way.



He could be the only QB in NFL history to have lost to 31 different franchises.



3 QB's have wins over all 32 NFL franchises (Brees, Favre, P. Manning). No QB has losses to all 32 franchises. Ryan can get the closest if the Skins lose to Green Bay, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay. Anyway ... linked to article, and copied and pasted below ...







[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/23/ryan-fitzpatrick-can-become-first-starting-qb-to-lose-to-31-different-teams/[/url]



[I]Three starting quarterbacks in NFL history have wins over all 32 NFL teams: Drew Brees, Brett Favre and Peyton Manning. Tom Brady will join that list if his Buccaneers beat the Patriots this season. And Aaron Rodgers could join the list too if he ends up on another team, and that team beats the Packers. But no quarterback has accomplished the feat of losing to all 32 teams.



Washington quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick can come the closest this season.



Fitzpatrick has lost to 28 different teams as a starting quarterback, according to Pro Football Reference. Of the four teams he hasn’t lost to, three are on Washington’s schedule this season: The Packers, Saints and Buccaneers. If Fitzpatrick loses to those three teams, he’ll have lost to an all-time record 31 NFL teams. (The Lions are the one team Fitzpatrick hasn’t lost to and won’t play this season.)



Although no starting quarterback has lost to 31 or 32 different teams, seven have lost to 30: Drew Bledsoe, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Matt Hasselbeck, Jon Kitna, Carson Palmer and Alex Smith. One quarterback, Kerry Collins, has lost to 29 teams. But all of those quarterbacks are retired, so they can’t reach 31 losses like Fitzpatrick.



In addition to Fitzpatrick, the other quarterbacks who have lost to 28 different teams in their careers are Derek Carr, Jay Cutler, Joe Flacco, Jeff George, Eli Manning, Warren Moon, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan and Vinny Testaverde. Carr, Flacco, Roethlisberger and Ryan can still add to their totals, but none can reach 31 different teams this season like Fitzpatrick can: Ryan’s Falcons only play two of the four teams he hasn’t lost to, while Carr’s Raiders and Roethlisberger’s Steelers play one each. Flacco’s Eagles play two of the teams he hasn’t lost to, but he’s not expected to start this season, so Flacco is unlikely to add to his total.



Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford have each lost to 27 different teams, but none of them can add more than three new losses this season, so none can catch Fitzpatrick.



In a strange way, losing to all 32 teams is a more difficult accomplishment than beating all 32 teams: Quarterbacks who lose a lot of games usually get benched or cut and don’t last long enough to lose to all 32 teams. It’s hard to keep a starting job for a long time while losing a lot of games. But Fitzpatrick has been a starter for eight different franchises, and Washington will be his ninth. He’s had an unusual career, and this year he can do something unprecedented in NFL history.

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Brady, Rodgers have lost to 27, Roethlisberger 28 like Fitzpatrick. Such a non-story story

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284231]Brady, Rodgers have lost to 27, Roethlisberger 28 like Fitzpatrick. Such a non-story story

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Typical profootballtalk fuckery. These dumb fucks, any negative story to associate with the skins is their MO.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284223]Monday morning cringe clip:

[url]https://www.tmz.com/videos/2021-05-19-051921-daniel-snyder-1083297/[/url]

Snyder touring across the world for “stadium ideas.” This seems kinda staged but why does Snyder seem so awkward? Glad Jason is now advising him…and Snyder is staying out of football decisions

So let me get this straight…Snyder won’t talk or give interviews to the press, yet speaking to *checks notes*…TMZ? Jfc…[/quote]

Wow a reporter actually caught him out in the wild .. I dont think Ive seen Snyder speak like that, off the cuff. Its usually once every 4 years or so with prepared statements behind a podium.

I think this was a sneak attack street interview that caught him and Jason off guard ... but in this social media world nothing is organic, everything is staged so who knows.

I thought Snyder did well. My expectation is very low though.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284232]Typical profootballtalk fuckery. These dumb fucks, any negative story to associate with the skins is their MO.[/quote]

I'm surprised they are even still afloat... Nobody respects them

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[quote=SunnySide;1284233]Wow a reporter actually caught him out in the wild .. I dont think Ive seen Snyder speak like that, off the cuff. Its usually once every 4 years or so with prepared statements behind a podium.

I think this was a sneak attack street interview that caught him and Jason off guard ... but in this social media world nothing is organic, everything is staged so who knows.

I thought Snyder did well. My expectation is very low though.[/quote]

The mega rich life.. Must b hard lol

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The fact that Wright said "The name will be announced pretty soon" leads me to believe it will be before the season starts. I bet it stays WFT

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1284238]The fact that Wright said "The name will be announced pretty soon" leads me to believe it will be before the season starts. I bet it stays WFT[/QUOTE]God that will suck

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