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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1319247]Liz Cheney is an actual conservative? Based on what?
Also, when you clearly go against your constituents, its a shame when you lose?[/QUOTE] Pleaee just admit you do not hate Trump. We can start there and work our way up to worshipping him. Lol. For someone who claims they dont agree with the man you sure seem to agree with the man. Or at least get angry at those who don’t. I mean is there anyone in Trump world who is more hated at the moment? Is this just another coincidence that has you in lock step with the Don? Go against your constituents? Or chose to do the right thing and speak up against an attempted coup of the United States Government? It is called country over party SD. Wish there were more like her. Im not a fan of her or her father, but in this case she did the right thing and showed some patriotism and her constituents (trumpers) voted her out because she didn’t bend the knee…..it’s disgusting. On a side note you and G-1 broke a record for back and forth post fighting over night. Lol |
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[quote=punch it in;1319271]Pleaee just admit you do not hate Trump. We can start there and work our way up to worshipping him. Lol. For someone who claims they dont agree with the man you sure seem to agree with the man. Or at least get angry at those who don’t.
I mean is there anyone in Trump world who is more hated at the moment? Is this just another coincidence that has you in lock step with the Don? Go against your constituents? Or chose to do the right thing and speak up against an attempted coup of the United States Government? It is called country over party SD. Wish there were more like her. Im not a fan of her or her father, but in this case she did the right thing and showed some patriotism and her constituents (trumpers) voted her out because she didn’t bend the knee…..it’s disgusting. On a side note you and G-1 broke a record for back and forth post fighting over night. Lol[/quote] I don't hate Trump. I don't think I have ever said differently. But I don't like him either. If I didn't read this site daily, I wouldn't think about him much at all. I liked the idea of trying someone that is not a career long freeloader like a Bush or Biden. And I still do. Cheney made a calculated gamble for herself and she will lose. She will end up on The View or something. Going against Trump just automatically makes you a global humanitarian in lots of circles. You all can make a hero out of her. I will pass on that. Hopefully her dad doesn't "accidentally" shoot me. Side note - G1 is allowed to get away with murder here. He's constantly rude and disrespectful to everyone here that doesn't agree with his stance 100% of the time. |
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The Inflation reduction act….which is a lie to begin with, it doesn’t lower inflation….
Will raise taxes on everyone, confirmed: The bipartisan Joint Committee on Taxation calculated that, altogether, the bill will raise taxes on every income bracket and that people making less than $400,000 a year will bear most of the total tax increase. Feel free to check the facts here: [url]https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/jct_distributional_effects_inflation_reduction_act.pdf[/url] So during a recession, facing historic inflation spurned by the American Rescue plan and Biden energy policy, now he will raise taxes on Americans working the hardest. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1319276]The Inflation reduction act….which is a lie to begin with, it doesn’t lower inflation….
Will raise taxes on everyone, confirmed: The bipartisan Joint Committee on Taxation calculated that, altogether, the bill will raise taxes on every income bracket and that people making less than $400,000 a year will bear most of the total tax increase. Feel free to check the facts here: [url]https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/jct_distributional_effects_inflation_reduction_act.pdf[/url] So during a recession, facing historic inflation spurned by the American Rescue plan and Biden energy policy, now he will raise taxes on Americans working the hardest.[/quote] chico we understand you're against anything good Biden does but you need to educate yourself. [url]https://equitablegrowth.org/the-economic-evidence-behind-the-inflation-reduction-act-and-why-it-will-boost-strong-broad-based-economic-growth/[/url] The economic evidence behind the Inflation Reduction Act and why it will boost strong, broad-based economic growth The Inflation Reduction Act spells good news for the U.S. economy. The proposed legislation now before the U.S. Senate would make historic investments to combat climate change, lower healthcare costs, and crack down on tax evasion. All three of these policy actions would help tame rising inflation by lowering the cost of energy, prescription drugs, and health insurance, and by raising the federal revenue required to both pay for these programs and reduce the federal budget deficit. The importance of the Inflation Reduction Act must also be gauged not just by how well it will deal with rising inflationary pressures but also how the proposed legislation addresses persistent and growing economic inequality in the United States. Over the past five decades, inequality soared while growth stalled. Despite promises to the contrary, the old prescription of tax cuts for the rich and reduced public investment are not working for U.S. workers and their families. |
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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319275]I don't hate Trump. I don't think I have ever said differently. But I don't like him either. If I didn't read this site daily, I wouldn't think about him much at all.
I liked the idea of trying someone that is not a career long freeloader like a Bush or Biden. And I still do. Cheney made a calculated gamble for herself and she will lose. She will end up on The View or something. Going against Trump just automatically makes you a global humanitarian in lots of circles. You all can make a hero out of her. I will pass on that. Hopefully her dad doesn't "accidentally" shoot me. [B]Side note - G1 is allowed to get away with murder here. He's constantly rude and disrespectful to everyone here that doesn't agree with his stance 100% of the time.[/B][/quote] LOL, I give what I get. You think when chico does it it's funny and cute. chico cross the line with me years ago and you thought it was funny. tuff shit! |
The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1319275]I don't hate Trump. I don't think I have ever said differently. But I don't like him either. If I didn't read this site daily, I wouldn't think about him much at all.
I liked the idea of trying someone that is not a career long freeloader like a Bush or Biden. And I still do. Cheney made a calculated gamble for herself and she will lose. She will end up on The View or something. Going against Trump just automatically makes you a global humanitarian in lots of circles. You all can make a hero out of her. I will pass on that. Hopefully her dad doesn't "accidentally" shoot me. Side note - G1 is allowed to get away with murder here. He's constantly rude and disrespectful to everyone here that doesn't agree with his stance 100% of the time.[/QUOTE] How is Trump not a freeloader? Lol. Got his fortune from his daddy too. When he lost that he used loopholes, tax evasion , and fudged numberscto get it back. Now he is grifting millions from his ignorant base and lying to them about where it is going? I mean if that aint freeloading im a Trumper. Lol He is the worst type of freeloader. He is a lying con artist of a freeloader. |
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[quote=punch it in;1319286]How is Trump not a freeloader? Lol. Got his fortune from his daddy too. When he lost that he used loopholes, tax evasion , and fudged numberscto get it back. Now he is grifting millions from his ignorant base and lying to them about where it is going? I mean if that aint freeloading im a Trumper. Lol[/quote]
Trump is on his own level. He says so much bullshit, it's hard to keep track of it all. It would be better for all of us if he didn't run. Therefore, he will do the opposite. But in 2016, I liked that he wasn't part of the standard D.C. recycling bin. In hindsight, voting for someone with the maturity of a 10 year old didn't work well. So I voted for someone else in 2020 and will do the same in 2024. |
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Lets look and see where the fact that trump was not part of the DC .......recycling bin, exactly how did that work out for America?
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The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1319289]Trump is on his own level. He says so much bullshit, it's hard to keep track of it all. It would be better for all of us, if he didn't run. Therefore he will do the opposite. But in 2016, I liked that he wasn't part of the standard D.C. recycling bin. In hindsight, voting for someone with the maturity of a 10 year old didn't work well. So I voted for someone else in 2020 and will do the same in 2024.[/QUOTE]
No he wasn’t. He was worse. Lol. There is cleaning up the government and there is overthrowing it to run it as ur own personal cash cow. Totally different. Said it before, and ill say it again. Right message. Wrong fuckin dude. Way wrong. It is the equivalent of someone trying to get off inhalants by doing heroin. |
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Don’t forget legal woes! |
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[quote=Giantone;1319285]LOL, I give what I get. You think when chico does it it's funny and cute. chico cross the line with me years ago and you thought it was funny. tuff shit![/quote]
Frankly, I've earned whatever shit I get from you. But don't act like you don't do the same to everyone else that isn't Chico or me, as well. |
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[quote=punch it in;1319291]No he wasn’t. He was worse. Lol. Said it before, and ill say it again. Right message. Wrong fuckin dude. Way wrong. It is the equivalent of someone trying to get off inhalants by doing heroin.[/quote]
I think we're on the same page here. "His own level" wasn't a compliment. |
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[quote=punch it in;1319286]How is Trump not a freeloader? Lol. Got his fortune from his daddy too. When he lost that he used loopholes, tax evasion , and fudged numberscto get it back. Now he is grifting millions from his ignorant base and lying to them about where it is going? I mean if that aint freeloading im a Trumper. Lol
He is the worst type of freeloader. He is a lying con artist of a freeloader.[/quote] And if the wire tap story is true he is becoming paranoid. Paranoid scitzode who wants to be a Dictator (admits it),and the right wants him as President, again! |
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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319293]Frankly, I've earned whatever shit I get from you. But don't act like you don't do the same to everyone else that isn't Chico or me, as well.[/quote]
I haven't denied shit. [B]P.S> Whatever I say it's on me . I don't include anyone else ,I speak for myself again something a few of you don't do.[/B] |
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I have to say, these threads have been pretty entertaining this morning. Thanks for all who have contributed.
Honestly, it saddens me that we can't do better (all sides) with who we put on the ballots. Normal people have no chance anymore. It's the richest, most connected, most willing to do back-door deals who get seats at the table now. [U]None[/U] of these politicians represent the average American anymore. Until we get back to nominating candidates that truly represent what Americans value, and who can compromise for the greater good of the whole country, we'll continue to have threads like this on forums all over the country, where people who [I]could[/I] probably all hang out in a backyard grilling and throwing a few back, will be at each other's throats defending the asshole they had to vote for because they had no other choice - in their mind. People say they want religion out of politics. That's fine and I understand that sentiment. But you have to have people with morals. I know that not all religious people have morals (see Catholic Priest issue over the last several decades), but I think most do, so I'm not against someone touting their Christianity, or whatever their faith, while running for office. It's part of who they are. There are those who will fake it (Trump), but there are plenty who are genuine. Anyway, I honestly don't get why Trump would run again. It's going to be a disaster if he does, and who will he run against. There's no way Biden runs again - he doesn't even know where the bathroom is anymore. We gotta do better - all sides. I just want to be excited about who I'm voting for, and I haven't felt like that in a long time. It truly comes down to who do I think is the lesser of two evils and cross my fingers, or don't exercise my right to vote. Neither is a good choice. |
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duplicate post - back to work
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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319304]I have to say, these threads have been pretty entertaining this morning. Thanks for all who have contributed.
Honestly, it saddens me that we can't do better (all sides) with who we put on the ballots. Normal people have no chance anymore. It's the richest, most connected, most willing to do back-door deals who get seats at the table now. [U]None[/U] of these politicians represent the average American anymore. Until we get back to nominating candidates that truly represent what Americans value, and who can compromise for the greater good of the whole country, we'll continue to have threads like this on forums all over the country, where people who [I]could[/I] probably all hang out in a backyard grilling and throwing a few back, will be at each other's throats defending the asshole they had to vote for because they had no other choice - in their mind. People say they want religion out of politics. That's fine and I understand that sentiment. But you have to have people with morals. I know that not all religious people have morals (see Catholic Priest issue over the last several decades), but I think most do, so I'm not against someone touting their Christianity, or whatever their faith, while running for office. It's part of who they are. There are those who will fake it (Trump), but there are plenty who are genuine. Anyway, I honestly don't get why Trump would run again. It's going to be a disaster if he does, and who will he run against. There's no way Biden runs again - he doesn't even know where the bathroom is anymore. We gotta do better - all sides. I just want to be excited about who I'm voting for, and I haven't felt like that in a long time. It truly comes down to who do I think is the lesser of two evils and cross my fingers, or don't exercise my right to vote. Neither is a good choice.[/quote] I did zero of these things last night or this morning: [IMG]https://www.verywellmind.com/thmb/FtsgxlNXkhBH9nHDZocpuy85K6U=/1333x1000/smart/filters:no_upscale()/anger-management-strategies-4178870-final-2a4e9e9e33cc4399b2995c69a46cf84c.png[/IMG] |
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Not saying I'm a Beto fan but I like this energy
[URL="https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1557546910101250051"]@BetoORourke did not hold back when a supporter of Greg Abbott laughed loudly as Beto discussed the mass shooting in Uvalde.[/URL] |
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[quote=MTK;1319307]Not saying I'm a Beto fan but I like this energy
[URL="https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1557546910101250051"]@BetoORourke did not hold back when a supporter of Greg Abbott laughed loudly as Beto discussed the mass shooting in Uvalde.[/URL][/quote] [IMG]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.chzbgr.com%2Foriginal%2F8696581%2FhCD72C722%2Ffunny-tweets-about-beto-orourke-speaking-spanish&f=1&nofb=1[/IMG] |
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Not sure what that has to do with what I posted but thanks? Maybe you're the guy laughing in the clip?
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[QUOTE=MTK;1319307]Not saying I'm a Beto fan but I like this energy
[URL="https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1557546910101250051"]@BetoORourke did not hold back when a supporter of Greg Abbott laughed loudly as Beto discussed the mass shooting in Uvalde.[/URL][/QUOTE] Big fan. |
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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1319294]I think we're on the same page here. "His own level" wasn't a compliment.[/QUOTE]
It would help bring us closer together if you hated him for being the slimy cunt that he is. Lol. Can I say cunt as long as I mean it? |
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[quote=MTK;1319309]Not sure what that has to do with what I posted but thanks?[/quote]
Nothing in particular. He is just one of my least favorite people this country has to offer. And I love memes. Good combo. [IMG]https://www.m14forum.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.m14forum.com/attachments/gun-control-1208-jpg.435571/[/IMG] |
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[quote=punch it in;1319311]It would help bring us closer together if you hated him for being the slimy cunt that he is. Lol. Can I say cunt as long as I mean it?[/quote]
You love Beto? I've never felt further apart from you lol. [IMG]https://c.tenor.com/csb2e86unZcAAAAM/ardcollegeno000%21-god%21-no-god.gif[/IMG] But cunt is a solid word. It's just so mean and harsh. It's a perfect word to get certain points across. |
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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319313]Nothing in particular. He is just one of my least favorite people this country has to offer. And I love memes. Good combo.
[IMG]https://www.m14forum.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.m14forum.com/attachments/gun-control-1208-jpg.435571/[/IMG][/quote] Always a solid move to respond to a clip about kids dying with a meme. |
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[quote=MTK;1319316]Always a solid move to respond to a clip about kids dying with a meme.[/quote]
Always solid to be a waffling liar with no real solutions to any problems. And that meme had nothing to do with Uvalde. It was out way before that. This guy is just another rat that will say or do anything to gain power. [url]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/593735-orourke-on-past-remarks-about-taking-away-guns-im-not-interested-in-taking/[/url] |
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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319247]Liz Cheney is an actual conservative? Based on what?
Also, when you clearly go against your constituents, its a shame when you lose?[/quote] The article lays it out quite well on why she is an actual conservative and I think the consensus (which includes some of his supporters) is Trump definitely is not a conservative. Unfortunately, Trump and MAGA have a hammerlock on the GOP (including in Wyoming) and if you don't bend the knee you're done. As for her being a Neo-con you are correct on that, but wrong on the definition of what a neo-con is. It's not about profit it's about morality. And yes I know we can't save everyone. |
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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319314]You love Beto? I've never felt further apart from you lol.
[B]But cunt is a solid word. It's just so mean and harsh. It's a perfect word to get certain points across[/B].[/quote] Acts 16:31: Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved. [IMG]https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/-6Y3CeYbsmKCzgHHaM8KDqQO-pU=/805x277/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/confusedtyrionreactionimage-5ab83422ba6177003731325a.PNG[/IMG] |
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I said right off the bat I wasn't a fan of the guy, just liked his response in that clip. But hey shit on him anyway.
Amazing a Trump voter calling someone a liar and a rat. Really fucking funny. |
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[quote=nonniey;1319319]The article lays it out quite well on why she is an actual conservative and [B]I think the consensus (which includes some of his supporters) is Trump definitely is not a conservative[/B]. Unfortunately, Trump and MAGA have a hammerlock on the GOP (including in Wyoming) and if you don't bend the knee you're done.
As for her being a Neo-con you are correct on that, but wrong on the definition of what a neo-con is. It's not about profit it's about morality. And yes I know we can't save everyone.[/quote] He is definitely not conservative. Definitely a let-down in that regard. That was the main reason I started to think about not voting for him in 2020 then he just made it progressively easier as it went along, going into the election. |
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[quote=MTK;1319322][B]I said right off the bat I wasn't a fan of the guy[/B], just liked his response in that clip. But hey shit on him anyway.
Amazing a Trump voter calling someone a liar and a rat. Really fucking funny.[/quote] I know you did. I just really don't like him. There is definitely more than 1 rat and liar in our national politics. Plenty of room for Trump and Beto on the train. Trump can be the bigger rat. Also, is just not being Trump a permanent pass to do and say whatever the fuck you want with no accountability? Sure seems that way imho. |
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[quote=Giantone;1319320]Acts 16:31: Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.
[IMG]https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/-6Y3CeYbsmKCzgHHaM8KDqQO-pU=/805x277/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/confusedtyrionreactionimage-5ab83422ba6177003731325a.PNG[/IMG][/quote] Punch jokingly asks about the word, no problem there. I jokingly respond, and I get this. Shocking. Also, if you're not aware. I'm not Jesus. Nothing I say, makes what that says not true. |
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[quote=Giantone;1319281]chico we understand you're against anything good Biden does but you need to educate yourself.
[url]https://equitablegrowth.org/the-economic-evidence-behind-the-inflation-reduction-act-and-why-it-will-boost-strong-broad-based-economic-growth/[/url] The economic evidence behind the Inflation Reduction Act and why it will boost strong, broad-based economic growth The Inflation Reduction Act spells good news for the U.S. economy. The proposed legislation now before the U.S. Senate would make historic investments to combat climate change, lower healthcare costs, and crack down on tax evasion. All three of these policy actions would help tame rising inflation by lowering the cost of energy, prescription drugs, and health insurance, and by raising the federal revenue required to both pay for these programs and reduce the federal budget deficit. The importance of the Inflation Reduction Act must also be gauged not just by how well it will deal with rising inflationary pressures but also how the proposed legislation addresses persistent and growing economic inequality in the United States. Over the past five decades, inequality soared while growth stalled. Despite promises to the contrary, the old prescription of tax cuts for the rich and reduced public investment are not working for U.S. workers and their families.[/quote] Lol…the equitable growth org? So no facts about the legislation , just feelings from some nobody on the internet from some made up organization. That’s good enough for you I’ll stick with the facts. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1319276]The Inflation reduction act….which is a lie to begin with, it doesn’t lower inflation….
Will raise taxes on everyone, confirmed: The bipartisan Joint Committee on Taxation calculated that, altogether, the bill will raise taxes on every income bracket and that people making less than $400,000 a year will bear most of the total tax increase. Feel free to check the facts here: [url]https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/jct_distributional_effects_inflation_reduction_act.pdf[/url] So during a recession, facing historic inflation spurned by the American Rescue plan and Biden energy policy, now he will raise taxes on Americans working the hardest.[/quote] The IRS currently has 75K people. In an un-friggen-believable move this bill increases the IRS by 87K people. Yes that's right a more than 110% expansion of the IRS. When was the last time any department grew by that much? I don't recommend anyone itemizing on their taxes anytime soon. |
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[quote=nonniey;1319327]The IRS currently has 75K people. In an un-friggen-believable move this bill increases the IRS by 87K people. Yes that's right a more than 110% expansion of the IRS. When was the last time any department grew by that much? I don't recommend anyone itemizing on their taxes anytime soon.[/quote]
More government is always good, if the right people make it happen (Democrats only). So the IRS just got 110% better. Hell yeah!!! |
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For the bigger government, pro IRS crowd still ignoring who they will come after:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ4UW_4XkAE2jPZ?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG] [url]https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/irs_enforcement_jct_analysis.pdf[/url] Just focus on the 0-50k and 50k-100k numbers versus higher income. This will be the secondary income people use to struggle to make ends meet. Working class and poor…case closed Thanks Dems and Joe Biden…along with creating the worst inflation and energy prices of my lifetime, you will be raising taxes on us and releasing the IRS to collect what little else there is. |
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[URL="https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-irs-was-gutted"]How the IRS Was Gutted[/URL]
An eight-year campaign to slash the agency’s budget has left it understaffed, hamstrung and operating with archaic equipment. The result: billions less to fund the government. [B]That’s good news for corporations and the wealthy.[/B] |
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[quote=Chico23231;1319326]Lol…the equitable growth org? So no facts about the legislation , just feelings from some nobody on the internet from some made up organization. That’s good enough for you
I’ll stick with the facts.[/quote] You and Kelly Conway and your "alternative facts" gotta love it! Hit the link and read the whole thing maybe by chance something will sink in. |
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[quote=MTK;1319334][URL="https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-irs-was-gutted"]How the IRS Was Gutted[/URL]
An eight-year campaign to slash the agency’s budget has left it understaffed, hamstrung and operating with archaic equipment. The result: billions less to fund the government. [B]That’s good news for corporations and the wealthy.[/B][/quote] Fix the technology (why this hasn't already been done is beyond me, and it could be 100% republican's faults, I honestly don't know, just fix it) and simplify the tax codes. Sounds like a good combo to me. |
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