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[quote=skinsfan69;1113500]This proves nothing, other than NE doesn't fumble the ball. Again, why didn't it help Ridley? Where is your proof that every ball they played with was deflated?

I guess that normal sized ball hurt Brady in the SB when he picked apart Seattle with pin point pass after pin point pass. I guess the heavy ball slowed down his reads. Or slowed down his ability to check things at the line. Or look off the safeties, or when he has that 6th sense with the pass rush and steps up to avoid sacks. I guess all those things that he does so well comes down to an under deflated ball by 1.2 psi. It has nothing to do with the countless hours that he puts in. He's a great QB all cause of the deflated ball. Right?

[B]Again, we'll just agree to disagree.[/B][/quote]

Not surprising when one of us thinks and the other doesn't.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1113500]This proves nothing, other than NE doesn't fumble the ball. Again, why didn't it help Ridley?[/quote]

Here you go, dingus.

[url=http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/new-england-patriots-fumble-more-often-when-playing-for-other-teams]Sharp Football Analysis[/url]

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You can only lead the horse to water...

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[quote=Schneed10;1113504]Here you go, [B]dingus[/B].

[url=http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/new-england-patriots-fumble-more-often-when-playing-for-other-teams]Sharp Football Analysis[/url][/quote]

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RIP Garo Yepremian

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/16/garo-yepremian-passes-away-at-age-70/]Reports: Garo Yepremian passes away at age 70 | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1113528]RIP Garo Yepremian

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/16/garo-yepremian-passes-away-at-age-70/]Reports: Garo Yepremian passes away at age 70 | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000146968/Garo-Yepremian-attempted-throw]Garo Yepremian attempted throw - NFL Videos[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1113488]Interesting article from ESPN's legal guru on this.

[url=http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12888612/tom-brady-nflpa-cannot-win-appeal-filed-deflategate]Lester Munson: Tom Brady, NFLPA cannot win appeal filed in Deflategate[/url]


Doesn't seem to think Brady or the NFLPA have a shot in hell at overturning this.[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12910531/new-england-patriots-nfl-working-resolution-issues-deflategate-penalties]New England Patriots, NFL working on resolution to issues with Deflategate penalties[/url]

Either the NFL doesn't agree with Munson's analysis or the NFL has done something they don't want public and think it is best for the league to resolve the matter out of the public eye.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1113593][url=http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12910531/new-england-patriots-nfl-working-resolution-issues-deflategate-penalties]New England Patriots, NFL working on resolution to issues with Deflategate penalties[/url]

Either the NFL doesn't agree with Munson's analysis or the NFL has done something they don't want public and think it is best for the league to resolve the matter out of the public eye.[/quote]

Or Goodell is making amends with Kraft. Or something like that...

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[url=http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12913741/robert-kraft-says-new-england-patriots-appeal-deflategate-punishment]Robert Kraft says New England Patriots won't appeal Deflategate punishment[/url]

I must say, not surprised about this. I wonder how this affects Brady's appeal, now that the team is basically going to take their punishment.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1113598][url=http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12913741/robert-kraft-says-new-england-patriots-appeal-deflategate-punishment]Robert Kraft says New England Patriots won't appeal Deflategate punishment[/url]

I must say, not surprised about this. I wonder how this affects Brady's appeal, now that the team is basically going to take their punishment.[/quote]

This will not affect Brady's appeal at all.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1113593][url=http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12910531/new-england-patriots-nfl-working-resolution-issues-deflategate-penalties]New England Patriots, NFL working on resolution to issues with Deflategate penalties[/url]

Either the NFL doesn't agree with Munson's analysis or the NFL has done something they don't want public and think it is best for the league to resolve the matter out of the public eye.[/quote]Did Kraft speak out in a halting reluctant unsteady voice, against the totally unjustified cap "penalties" levied against us and Dallass?

No?

F him.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12915634/nfl-change-extra-point-kicks-longer-distance]NFL to change extra-point kicks to longer distance[/url]

New rule folks and the skins voted against it. I really like the fact 2 points can be returned for a score.

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I'm a little surprised we are going to be seeing what like, 33 yard PAT's .... Crazy... I'm gonna go ahead and say we'll be seeing ALOT of odd final scores, via missed kicks, failed 2 pts, or converted 2 pts.... The change is Interesting, but is it a good kind of intersring? Remains to be seen IMO.

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The extra point attempt was stupid to begin with; now it's idiotic.

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FGs last year from 33 yards were 94%, so don't count on this new rule having a huge impact.

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[quote=Mattyk;1113628]FGs last year from 33 yards were 94%, so don't count on this new rule having a huge impact.[/quote]

Agree. This seems like a change for change's sake.

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I dont understand how the NFL can worry so much about the extra point. We dont watch the sport for extra points. At this point, just do away with it and go with the option of going for 2 by doing a +1/-1 thing with it. TD is 7 points, if you choose to "go for 2", then add 1 point if successful and subtract 1 point if not.

They have worried about length of games and added rules to keep them at 3 hours (out of bounds is now treated as a first down in college except in last 5 minutes of each half. Half times were shortened from 15 minutes to 12, etc). Remove the extra point and allow us to see more football in that 3 hours.

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How 'bout the NFL leave things as it is and stop worrying about the few seconds it takes to make an extra point.

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[quote=Mattyk;1113628]FGs last year from 33 yards were 94%, so don't count on this new rule having a huge impact.[/quote]

true, of course Im sure once it does people will be bitching.


I really like the fact when Chip goes for 2 early in a games for no other reason than to douche-out now, if(when) Tebow throws carelessly into the end zone (a strong possibilty) it can be picked and returned.

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In 2013 (couldn't quickly find last years numbers), there were 1,267 xp's kicked with only five missed (99.6%). Applying the 94% success rate to that number, means about 76 xp's would be missed. While not huge, it does make the possibility of an important xp kick being missed something to consider a little more.

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[url]https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/05/19/robert-kraft-surrenders-battle-couldn-win/MOpqZnW4k8NhqaFpdMI4qO/story.html[/url]

i know everybody is done with deflategate, but this article sums it up...

DP just mentioned it, but this is the quote which sums it up perfect:

"The battle is over, Patriot fans. And the war has been lost. The Patriots have been found to have cheated twice in eight seasons. They have accepted the loss of first-round draft picks twice in eight seasons. They have accepted the biggest fine in NFL history."

To me, these facts severly taint the so called dynasty...

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1113635]In 2013 (couldn't quickly find last years numbers), there were 1,267 xp's kicked with only five missed (99.6%). Applying the 94% success rate to that number, means about 76 xp's would be missed. While not huge, it does make the possibility of an important xp kick being missed something to consider a little more.[/quote]

agree...this will decide some games

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[quote=Chico23231;1113637]agree...this will decide some games[/quote]

How many games were won by a point or two? This change may affect final quarter strategy for many games and prove to be much more than a trivial change.

Haven't decided yet whether any of this will be good or bad for the game.

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If we are going to be going for two more often then I am glad we drafted Matt Jones.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1113644]How many games were won by a point or two? This change may affect final quarter strategy for many games and prove to be much more than a trivial change.

Haven't decided yet whether any of this will be good or bad for the game.[/quote]

Well, it's not just the final score that may be effected. Team down by 10 scores a TD with two - four minutes to go, misses the xp and now must get a TD not an just a FG. Maybe they try an onside where they might have been content to rely on defense. etc., etc.

At the same time, I'm with you. Not sure if it is good or bad.

Can you still try a fake from the 15 and score two points? Not sure anyone would but just curious if the rule addresses that.

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This guy is just a stupid POS punk.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/aaron-hernandez-fight/index.html#]Source: Aaron Hernandez involved in prison fight - CNN.com[/url]

[url=http://www.sbnation.com/2015/5/21/8638935/aaron-hernandez-murder-trial-new-england-patriots-tattoo]Aaron Hernandez got a huge 'LIFETIME' neck tattoo in prison - SBNation.com[/url]

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In news unrelated to NE -- holy crap: [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000493320/article/baylors-shawn-oakman-jumps-40-inches-holding-70-lbs-weights]Baylor's Shawn Oakman jumps 40 inches holding 70 lbs weights - NFL.com[/url]

Not sure if folks have the appetite for more freak athletes from Baylor, but I would think this guy could probably swat down a few kicks and passes.

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Giants LT Beatty torn pec muscle lifting wts . [url=http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-york-giants-will-beatty-pectoral-injury-surgery-possible-052015]Source: Giants' Will Beatty injured, will undergo surgery | FOX Sports[/url]

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[quote=budw38;1113654]Giants LT Beatty torn pec muscle lifting wts . [url=http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-york-giants-will-beatty-pectoral-injury-surgery-possible-052015]Source: Giants' Will Beatty injured, will undergo surgery | FOX Sports[/url][/quote]

ouch. out estimated 6 months so that means no football related activities until Nov at the earliest.

did rak tear the same pec twice or did he tear both? i wondering if this will now be a lingering med problem for him.

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Wish he was a Skin.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2471493-jj-watt-shares-photo-of-massive-leg-bruise-from-2014-where-he-scored-td-after?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial]J.J. Watt Shares Photo of Massive Leg Bruise from 2014 Prior to TD Return | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;1113686]Wish he was a Skin.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2471493-jj-watt-shares-photo-of-massive-leg-bruise-from-2014-where-he-scored-td-after?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial]J.J. Watt Shares Photo of Massive Leg Bruise from 2014 Prior to TD Return | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]


Not for that salary I don't.

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That looks more like a....Shark Attack!
....Holy S.....

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;1113686]Wish he was a Skin.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2471493-jj-watt-shares-photo-of-massive-leg-bruise-from-2014-where-he-scored-td-after?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial]J.J. Watt Shares Photo of Massive Leg Bruise from 2014 Prior to TD Return | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]How the heck did he get that bruise? Did he go out of bounds and straddle a post or something?

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[quote=over the mountain;1113685]ouch. out estimated 6 months so that means no football related activities until Nov at the earliest.

did rak tear the same pec twice or did he tear both? i wondering if this will now be a lingering med problem for him.[/quote]

I thought Rak tore the same muscle twice ? Not a good injury to have .

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;1113686]Wish he was a Skin.

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2471493-jj-watt-shares-photo-of-massive-leg-bruise-from-2014-where-he-scored-td-after?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial"]J.J. Watt Shares Photo of Massive Leg Bruise from 2014 Prior to TD Return | Bleacher Report[/URL][/quote]

That sure looks like a tear , rather than a bruise ? Not pretty either way .

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[quote=NC_Skins;1113687]Not for that salary I don't.[/quote]

For what he brings to the table, I don't mind it. Eventually if we ever get an elite player who impacts the game in a way that he does or any elite player you are going to have to pay them

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Gotta love that fan mentality of killing a team for not having studs at every single position, but also doesn't want to pay anyone superstar money. Oh of course and killing the team all over again for letting that guy go when he demands big money.

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[quote=Mattyk;1113699]Gotta love that fan mentality of killing a team for not having studs at every single position, but also doesn't want to pay anyone superstar money. Oh of course and killing the team all over again for letting that guy go when he demands big money.[/quote]

We want everything and nothing all at the same time, have every superstar while paying them the vet minimum, while winning the Super Bowl and have the number one draft pick every season. HTTR!!!!!

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jj watt wins games. i'd love to have him.

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Not sure if I read it correctly on the NLFN scroll but Dumb Ass Ray McDonald was cut by Chicago Bears for being arrested yet again for Domestic violence.
HGH anyone?