Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[QUOTE=mooby;1199165]Anybody who has access to a person's login can do things on that person's behalf, but it'd be highly suspect to add him as an admin on a page he wanted nothing to do with.

The group can send him an invite to join, or send him an invite to be an admin, but it is blatantly false that you can be added to groups as a member or an admin without your consent.

TL;DR it's sabotage, or he is an admin for a racist group on FB. He could always have been hacked too, but if someone would go to those lengths they'd probably do more than just add him as an admin for a group.[/QUOTE]

Gotcha. Glad hes not running in md then.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1199094]2) i dont know about DeSantis' situation, but i do know the media regularly lies, exaggerates or manipulates the facts and i do expect this is one of those cases

The media has 0 credibility on these sort of stories because they have repeatedly shown their bias.

I dont know much about facebook, but like most of the internet, i assume that if DeSantis was posting rascist crap some one will dig up those posts and put them out there. I doubt facebook is using bleachbit software on their servers to save DeSantis' behind.[/quote]


Here, let me help you out.

Originally reported here about him being an admin to a facebook group spreading racist information/memes.

[url]https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/ron-desantis-outed-as-administrator-of-racist-conspiracy-sharing-facebook-page-10682854[/url]

We have confirmation he (along with other politicians) was an admin of the racist group because his administration admits he left the group.

[url]https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/08/31/did-ron-desantis-moderate-a-far-right-facebook-group/[/url]


Now we have racist robocalls going out targeting Gillum.

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/us/racist-robocall-andrew-gillum.html[/url]


The fact that you are up here defending this dipshit earlier when all the evidence supports he's a piece of racist makes me inclined to think you are one too or think like one.

Here are a few clues that might help you:

1) He's supported by Trump and toes the line which has shown to support white nationalist and racist comments/policies.

2) He's an admin of a facebook group that routinely posts racist memes/information to some 95,000 people

3) He uses the word "monkey" in a phrase dealing with his rival candidate who is black.


If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. It's a god damn duck.

You can't cling to Trumpism while still getting to deny racism. Not happening kids. There are many conservatives that have denounced such speech, and have been around supporting and helping Republicans win since Reagan. George Will, Bill Kristol, Rick Wilson, Tom Nichols, Steve Schmidt. Many of these guys have left the party THIS year after realizing the GOP had turned into the party of Trump. If you still support him, you support it all.

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Trump is such a bag of crap !


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/president-firing-back-meghan-mccain-tweet-142710883.html[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1198911]This is the type of bullshit, race baiting fake news “journalism” that infuriates me. Horeshit race baiting. As a people everyone should be mad at this crap. Fake news[/quote]



Race baiting
[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/us/racist-robocall-andrew-gillum.html"]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/us/racist-robocall-andrew-gillum.html[/URL]


I wish these baboons would stop monkeying around.
[URL="http://www.newsandtribune.com/cnhi_network/pennsylvania-gop-official-resigns-after-calling-nfl-players-baboons/article_9c4929a6-2dd1-5e3e-a2c2-56bac1875d1b.html"]http://www.newsandtribune.com/cnhi_network/pennsylvania-gop-official-resigns-after-calling-nfl-players-baboons/article_9c4929a6-2dd1-5e3e-a2c2-56bac1875d1b.html[/URL]



If this isn’t enough....

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[quote=jamf;1199296]Race baiting
[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/us/racist-robocall-andrew-gillum.html"]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/us/racist-robocall-andrew-gillum.html[/URL]


I wish these baboons would stop monkeying around.
[URL="http://www.newsandtribune.com/cnhi_network/pennsylvania-gop-official-resigns-after-calling-nfl-players-baboons/article_9c4929a6-2dd1-5e3e-a2c2-56bac1875d1b.html"]http://www.newsandtribune.com/cnhi_network/pennsylvania-gop-official-resigns-after-calling-nfl-players-baboons/article_9c4929a6-2dd1-5e3e-a2c2-56bac1875d1b.html[/URL]




If this isn’t enough....[/quote]

The fallacy of inconsistency, but carry on. My previous post has zero to do with either of these.


When it comes to the terrible robo calls...is there a way to pull the business license from the company in Florida? Anybody can create them and send whatever message they want...

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1199298]The fallacy of inconsistency, but carry on. My previous post has zero to do with either of these.


When it comes to the terrible robo calls...is there a way to pull the business license from the company in Florida? Anybody can create them and send whatever message they want...[/quote]

Please explain how the post that you were responding to #1209 and these have nothing to do with each other or what jamf was pointing out?

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How nice is is it that the Senate gets 3 days to review 42k documents before they're expected to vote on Kavanaugh's confirmation?

Let's do some quick math:

1 day = 1440 minutes.
3 days = 4320 minutes.
42k documents / 4320 minutes

That's approx. 9.72 documents a minute!

Now of course that's not accurate because senators have staffs they can also use to help read the documents. But still, 3 days? Why the rush?

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

because the dems have already made up their mind (the republicans too). If they took the vote today, do you think it will be any different than a vote in October.

Most democrats, who need these documents so badly didn't even talk to him.

Most senators vote on bills before they could possibly read it all.

I am outta this thread at this point (it's as split and polarized as our whole political debate is - no one is changing anyone else's mind), so y'all enjoy.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=mooby;1199308]How nice is is it that the Senate gets 3 days to review 42k documents before they're expected to vote on Kavanaugh's confirmation?

Let's do some quick math:

1 day = 1440 minutes.
3 days = 4320 minutes.
42k documents / 4320 minutes

That's approx. 9.72 documents a minute!

Now of course that's not accurate because senators have staffs they can also use to help read the documents. But still, 3 days? Why the rush?[/quote]

Lets not forget the documents the WH won't release.:doh:

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1199313]because the dems have already made up their mind (the republicans too). If they took the vote today, do you think it will be any different than a vote in October.

Most democrats, who need these documents so badly didn't even talk to him.

Most senators vote on bills before they could possibly read it all.

[B]I am outta this thread at this point (it's as split and polarized as our whole political debate is - no one is changing anyone else's mind), so y'all enjoy[/B].[/quote]

I respect that.

Speaking of things I respect, it's select Trump aides:

[URL]http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bob-woodward-trumps-aides-stole-his-papers-to-protect-the-country/ar-BBMS253?ocid=ientp[/URL]

[quote]
The book opens with a dramatic scene. Former chief economic adviser Gary Cohn saw a draft letter he considered dangerous to national security on the Oval Office desk.

The letter would have withdrawn the US from a critical trade agreement with South Korea. Trump's aides feared the fallout could jeopardize a top-secret national security program: the ability to detect a North Korean missile launch within just seven seconds.

Woodward reports Cohn was "appalled" that Trump might sign the letter. "I stole it off his desk," Cohn told an associate. "I wouldn't let him see it. He's never going to see that document. Got to protect the country."

Cohn was not alone. Former staff secretary Rob Porter worked with Cohn and used the same tactic on multiple occasions, Woodward writes. In addition to literally stealing or hiding documents from Trump's desk, they sought to stall and delay decisions or distract Trump from orders they thought would endanger national security.
[/quote] S/N this does not excuse the fact that Rob Porter is a woman beating piece of shit.

S/N raise your hand if you think saving money is more important than national security.

S/N, Trump's current Chief of Staff ladies and gentlemen:
[quote=John Kelly]
"He's an idiot. It's pointless to try to convince him of anything. He's gone off the rails. We're in crazytown," Kelly is quoted as saying at a staff meeting in his office. "I don't even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I've ever had."
[/quote]

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

Fred Guttenberg, the father of a Parkland student, tweeted that when he walked up to Judge Brett Kavanaugh as the morning session ended and put out his hand to introduce himself, “He pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away.”





Just walked up to Judge Kavanaugh as morning session ended. Put out my hand to introduce myself as Jaime Guttenberg's dad. He pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away. I guess he did not want to deal with the reality of gun violence.
— Fred Guttenberg (@fred_guttenberg) September 4, 2018

A source familiar with the encounter said that Kavanaugh did not know who he was and security intervened to end the exchange before there could even be a handshake.

The source explains an unidentified person approached Judge Kavanaugh. His security detail quickly stepped in because they did not know who the person was. When that occurred, and as security moved Judge Kavanaugh away from the man and toward an exit, the man began shouting at Judge Kavanaugh.

CNN has reviewed the video and it shows Guttenberg holding out his hand and Kavanaugh is seen listening to Guttenberg, expressionless, and then he turns away.

White House spokesman Raj Shah tweeted in response to Guttenberg.

“As Judge Kavanaugh left for his lunch break, an unidentified individual approached him. Before the judge was able to shake his hand, security had intervened," he said.

To that, Guttenberg responded, "Incorrect. I was here all day and introduced by Senator Feinstein. No security involved. He turned and walked away."



What a politicize piece of shit this parkland guy is...So this is fair game now? Bringing people in like this to pull stunt. What in the hell is wrong with this country?

This is why Trump gets voted into office. Garbage like this.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1199331]Fred Guttenberg, the father of a Parkland student, tweeted that when he walked up to Judge Brett Kavanaugh as the morning session ended and put out his hand to introduce himself, “He pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away.”





Just walked up to Judge Kavanaugh as morning session ended. Put out my hand to introduce myself as Jaime Guttenberg's dad. He pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away. I guess he did not want to deal with the reality of gun violence.
— Fred Guttenberg (@fred_guttenberg) September 4, 2018

A source familiar with the encounter said that Kavanaugh did not know who he was and security intervened to end the exchange before there could even be a handshake.

The source explains an unidentified person approached Judge Kavanaugh. His security detail quickly stepped in because they did not know who the person was. When that occurred, and as security moved Judge Kavanaugh away from the man and toward an exit, the man began shouting at Judge Kavanaugh.

CNN has reviewed the video and it shows Guttenberg holding out his hand and Kavanaugh is seen listening to Guttenberg, expressionless, and then he turns away.

White House spokesman Raj Shah tweeted in response to Guttenberg.

“As Judge Kavanaugh left for his lunch break, an unidentified individual approached him. Before the judge was able to shake his hand, security had intervened," he said.

To that, Guttenberg responded, "Incorrect. I was here all day and introduced by Senator Feinstein. No security involved. He turned and walked away."



What a politicize piece of shit this parkland guy is...So this is fair game now? Bringing people in like this to pull stunt. What in the hell is wrong with this country?

This is why Trump gets voted into office. Garbage like this.[/quote]

LOL, of course chico and the trump cult don't like it,hold off on your morally righteous BS .


Fuck em all eh chico???

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/09/02/mollie-tibbettss-dad-dont-use-her-death-push-views-she-believed-were-profoundly-racist/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0a198e1d6ee3[/url]










Chico you might like this ................nah .It's an old opinion piece but a good one.


[url]https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2018-03-07/donald-trump-is-exploiting-resentment-to-break-down-our-social-cohesion[/url]

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;1199333]LOL, of course chico and the trump cult don't like it,hold off on your morally righteous BS .


Fuck em all eh chico???

[QUOTE]

Dude this is a Supreme Court nominee, not a politician. You don't pull charades like this to promote fake news or political agendas.

Seriously zero class with this garbage.

This is ok? fuck no

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1199336][QUOTE=Giantone;1199333]LOL, of course chico and the trump cult don't like it,hold off on your morally righteous BS .


Fuck em all eh chico???

[QUOTE]

Dude this is a Supreme Court nominee, not a politician. You don't pull charades like this to promote fake news or political agendas.

Seriously zero class with this garbage.

This is ok? fuck no[/quote]
LOL, this piss's you off but nothing trump says or does gets a sniff from you, don't look now but your bias is showing. You're a hypocrite chico .:twocents:

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Giantone;1199340][quote=Chico23231;1199336][QUOTE=Giantone;1199333]LOL, of course chico and the trump cult don't like it,hold off on your morally righteous BS .


Fuck em all eh chico???


LOL, this piss's you off but nothing trump says or does gets a sniff from you, don't look now but your bias is showing. You're a hypocrite chico .:twocents:[/quote]

Dude, like Paul Ryan says, I’m not gonna answer each day to something about trump. Yes he lies, yes he is an asshole...what?

Your syndrome is well known and you stay triggered 24/7...look, we get it.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

chico, most of what you post is pretty thought out. almost never do you just spew nonsense. but to call a father, that has lost a child to gun violence, garbage, and classless is crossing that said line. come on man. he wants answers. every political turn he makes is met with promises, and inaction. the judge will have a life time effect on where we stand on gun control, as a country. imo its not wrong to go to the source, to seek some sort of satisfaction

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1199345][quote=Giantone;1199340][quote=Chico23231;1199336]

Dude, like Paul Ryan says, I’m not gonna answer each day to something about trump. Yes he lies, yes he is an asshole...what?

Your syndrome is well known and you stay triggered 24/7...look, we get it.[/quote]

I love it when you get #triggered !!!.....you need to go buy a mirror sonny.:spank:

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=dmek25;1199350]chico, most of what you post is pretty thought out. almost never do you just spew nonsense. but to call a father, that has lost a child to gun violence, garbage, and classless is crossing that said line. come on man. he wants answers. every political turn he makes is met with promises, and inaction. the judge will have a life time effect on where we stand on gun control, as a country. imo its not wrong to go to the source, to seek some sort of satisfaction[/quote]

So next time an alleged “liberal” judge nominee is before the House...it would be just fine for a mother or father killed by an illegal immigrant to approach that judge with hand out trying trying to make a similar “connection.” Or how about a guilt ridden mother who had an abortion but now is a pro-life activist, she can approach the nominee, with her hand out and maybe in the other pictures of dead fetuses for effect?

This isn’t the time for political statements or charades...this is a judge who is interviewing for the top spot in his profession...not an elected official. He should be respected and heard out.

When has shit like this become ok? Enough of these choreographed, fake events.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

if like you say, interviewing for the top spot, lets get as much info that available. and if its really that important, not block 100000 pages of transcripts. this seems like a marathon that congress is trying to finish in less then 5 minutes. and to the point of when this has become ok? never, in my book. these senseless killings keep getting swept under the rug, by old men thats main goal is to get re elected. its embarassing what politics has become. its in no way, shape, or form about the people any more

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1199355]So next time an alleged “liberal” judge nominee is before the House...it would be just fine for a mother or father killed by an illegal immigrant to approach that judge with hand out trying trying to make a similar “connection.” Or how about a guilt ridden mother who had an abortion but now is a pro-life activist, she can approach the nominee, with her hand out and maybe in the other pictures of dead fetuses for effect?

This isn’t the time for political statements or charades...this is a judge who is interviewing for the top spot in his profession...not an elected official. He should be respected and heard out.

When has shit like this become ok? Enough of these choreographed, fake events.[/quote]

pisssst, Chico , don't look now but you "bias" is showing.;)

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=dmek25;1199358]if like you say, interviewing for the top spot, lets get as much info that available. and if its really that important, not block 100000 pages of transcripts. this seems like a marathon that congress is trying to finish in less then 5 minutes. and to the point of when this has become ok? never, in my book. these senseless killings keep getting swept under the rug, by old men thats main goal is to get re elected. its embarassing what politics has become. its in no way, shape, or form about the people any more[/quote]

I agree 100%. I don’t understand it all and would like some clarification of why.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=dmek25;1199358]if like you say, interviewing for the top spot, lets get as much info that available. and if its really that important, not block 100000 pages of transcripts. this seems like a marathon that congress is trying to finish in less then 5 minutes. and to the point of when this has become ok? never, in my book. [B]these senseless killings keep getting swept under the rug, by old men thats main goal is to get re elected[/B]. its embarassing what politics has become. its in no way, shape, or form about the people any more[/quote]

Agreed. Why dump 42k pages of documents on a Friday evening and expect them to have it read by Tuesday? The whole process is a sham, basically Grassley was saying there's no point in giving them time to read because we already know how everyone's gonna vote anyways.

Also I put that sentence in bold because that's on point imo. It's not about doing what's right for the majority of the populace anymore, it's about doing what's right for the people that voted for you or put campaign funds in your pocket. Party over country.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=mooby;1199366]Agreed. Why dump 42k pages of documents on a Friday evening and expect them to have it read by Tuesday? The whole process is a sham, basically Grassley was saying there's no point in giving them time to read because we already know how everyone's gonna vote anyways.

Also I put that sentence in bold because that's on point imo. It's not about doing what's right for the majority of the populace anymore, it's about doing what's right for the people that voted for you or put campaign funds in your pocket. Party over country.[/quote]

Lets look at what Chico is outraged over..............



[url]https://my.xfinity.com/video/watch-parkland-father-approach-supreme-court-nominee-kavanaugh/1312707139505/Comcast/TopVideos?cid=sf_vidtray_scotus&tab=Must%20Watch[/url]

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Giantone;1199370]Lets look at what Chico is outraged over..............



[url]https://my.xfinity.com/video/watch-parkland-father-approach-supreme-court-nominee-kavanaugh/1312707139505/Comcast/TopVideos?cid=sf_vidtray_scotus&tab=Must%20Watch[/url][/quote]

no outrage...just continuing frustration of hypocrisy by the left. The double standard in Hollywood, the media, and their base. They have zero moral ground...they lost it all.

Its all surprising too that this is acceptable now. Good to know

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1199373]no outrage...just continuing frustration of hypocrisy by the left. The double standard in Hollywood, the media, and their base. They have zero moral ground...they lost it all.

Its all surprising too that this is acceptable now. Good to know[/quote]

LOL, all your post's to the contrary.



[IMG]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/465/908/802.jpg[/IMG]

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

Nah guys, Desantis wasn't racist when he said "monkey it up". Surely the racist facebook page he's admin of, or the public speeches he does with racists don't mean anything. /s


[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/gop-candidate-for-fla-governor-spoke-at-racially-charged-events/2018/09/09/c6d3a63c-b114-11e8-a810-4d6b627c3d5d_story.html?utm_term=.36ee84e894bb[/url]

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

This fucking guy

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180913/5e43ae73d7be1d6b47829672ce777095.jpg[/IMG]

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[IMG]https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iAxQm9pnhtY/W5l6yNyEtLI/AAAAAAABdDY/nyYWsEzphlEo1k4sUZodmvlOFzpI6qXQwCLcBGAs/s1600/2hs186.jpg[/IMG]

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[IMG]http://manteresting.com/sites/default/files/field/image/nail/2017/Nov/19/21430532_1576913549018531_9132363983737148253_n.jpg[/IMG]

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[QUOTE=MTK;1200112]This fucking guy

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180913/5e43ae73d7be1d6b47829672ce777095.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]



He has made more ignorant, insensitive, asinine, delusional statements than most people, but this one takes the cake. Every time I read it I am more amazed that a human, let alone the FUCKIN POTUS, would actually say this.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=punch it in;1200118]He has made more ignorant, insensitive, asinine, delusional statements than most people, but this one takes the cake. Every time I read it I am more amazed that a human, let alone the FUCKIN POTUS, would actually say this.[/quote]



I agree but to me it all so says something about the people that support him.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1199373]no outrage...just continuing frustration of hypocrisy by the left. The double standard in Hollywood, the media, and their base. They have zero moral ground...they lost it all.

Its all surprising too that this is acceptable now. Good to know[/quote]

Got a lot of balls talking about moral ground when the entire Republican party sits silent every time our President sticks his foot in his mouth.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=mooby;1200132]Got a lot of balls talking about moral ground when the entire Republican party sits silent every time our President sticks his foot in his mouth.[/quote]

But Mooby, a little black kid had a lemonade stand without a permit so everything is equal.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=jamf;1200135]But Mooby, a little black kid had a lemonade stand without a permit so everything is equal.[/quote]

lemonade privilege is real my friend

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=mooby;1200132]Got a lot of balls talking about moral ground when the entire Republican party sits silent every time our President sticks his foot in his mouth.[/quote]

plenty of GOP across the country have spoken out against Trump, even people in his own cabinet. When it comes to media, many from Fox news have spoken out against Trump and some of his policies...Im not seeing the bias amongst the GOP....like we see in Hollywood or most of liberal media.

I mean, in your bubble I don't expect you acknowledge it...but its certainly there with evidence almost every week.


Do you ever remember MSNBC taking a stance against Obama policies where Fox has spoken out about Trumps? Nope, MSNBC never did...they went along with everything the fucking socialist, welfare-monger said.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=chico23231;1200136]lemonade privilege is real my friend[/quote]

lol!

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Chico23231;1200137]plenty of GOP across the country have spoken out against Trump, even people in his own cabinet. When it comes to media, many from Fox news have spoken out against Trump and some of his policies...Im not seeing the bias amongst the GOP....like we see in Hollywood or most of liberal media.

I mean, in your bubble I don't expect you acknowledge it...but its certainly there with evidence almost every week.


Do you ever remember MSNBC taking a stance against Obama policies where Fox has spoken out about Trumps? Nope, MSNBC never did...they went along with everything the fucking socialist, welfare-monger said.[/quote]

LOL, chico #triggerd

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

[quote=Giantone;1200146]LOL, chico #triggerd[/quote]

I admit...def triggered. When I see gop and supposed biased Fox News weekly disagreeing with the president I gotta call it out. Trump is one of those folks who kinda thrives in drama/conflict even when it’s his own party/adminstration. The fact is there are many within the gop who disagree with trump and we see it weekly.

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

Tariffs update..............


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/layoffs-hit-prices-lag-lobster-154955816.html[/url]

Business
Layoffs hit, prices lag as tariff pinches lobster industry
Associated Press PATRICK WHITTLE,Associated Press Fri, Sep 14 1:47 PM ED

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The American lobster industry is starting to feel the pinch of China's tariff on U.S. seafood as exporters and dealers cope with sagging prices, new financial pressures and difficulty sending lobsters overseas.

China is a major buyer of lobsters, and it imposed a heavy tariff on exports from the U.S. in early July amid trade hostilities between the two superpowers. Exporters in the U.S. said their business in China has dried up since then.

Wholesale prices for live lobsters have also dipped a bit as dealers have lost markets. Prices in July and August were both slightly less than the same month in the previous year, business publisher Urner Barry reported.

One exporter, The Lobster Co. of Arundel, Maine, resorted to laying off four people, which constituted 25 percent of its wholesale staff, said Stephanie Nadeau, the company's owner.

"I can cut my variable costs and tuck my head in and see if this storm passes," she said. "What they've done is made it so everybody is fighting over the remaining customers. Price goes down, margins go down."


[url]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-companies-already-hurt-president-183033235.html[/url]


Time is working against certain businesses, however. The ripple effect stemming from the initial victims' struggle could take weeks if not months to be fully felt on other fronts. And new tariffs are being imposed. It will take weeks and/or months to feel their full impact as well, even as those outfits start to feel the early ripples.




........................gotta love trump.:doh:

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 

Didn't want to let this nugget slip by..............


[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/14/us/politics/manafort-plea-deal.html[/url]


WASHINGTON — Paul Manafort agreed on Friday to tell all he knows to the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, as part of a plea deal that could shape the final stages of the inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The deal was a surrender by Mr. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, who had vowed for months to prove his innocence in a case stemming from his work as a political consultant in Ukraine. And it was a decisive triumph for Mr. Mueller, who now has a cooperating witness who was at the center of the Trump campaign during a crucial period in 2016 and has detailed insight into another target of federal prosecutors, the network of lobbyists and influence brokers seeking to help foreign interests in Washington.

Mr. Manafort’s decision, announced at a federal court hearing in Washington in which he pleaded guilty to two conspiracy charges, was likely to unsettle Mr. Trump, who had praised Mr. Manafort for standing up to prosecutors’ pressure and had hinted that he might pardon him.

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It is not clear what information Mr. Manafort offered prosecutors in three days of negotiations that led to the plea deal. But in court on Friday, Mr. Manafort agreed to an open-ended arrangement that requires him to answer “fully, truthfully, completely and forthrightly” questions about “any and all matters” the government wants to ask about.