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[quote=MTK;1319334][URL="https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-irs-was-gutted"]How the IRS Was Gutted[/URL]

An eight-year campaign to slash the agency’s budget has left it understaffed, hamstrung and operating with archaic equipment. The result: billions less to fund the government. [B]That’s good news for corporations and the wealthy.[/B][/quote]

The 600 billion number can not be ignored .

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1319326]

I’ll stick with the facts.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/PjaQrF9J53UvTS2PPa/giphy.gif[/IMG]

Chico all about honesty, integrity, the facts, and Trump. Please stop.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319336]Fix the technology (why this hasn't already been done is beyond me, and it could be 100% republican's faults, I honestly don't know, just fix it) and simplify the tax codes. Sounds like a good combo to me.[/quote]

The poor IRS spent 700k this year on ammo alone and there annual budget of 10 billion is more than enough. Anyone who can’t get government contract pricing hardware should be fired immediately.

The problem isn’t money, it’s typical incompetence and they have a solid history of corruption :

[url]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-irs-has-a-history-of-corruption-and-incompetence[/url]

The IRS has a history of corruption and incompetence

The IRS failed to hire 5,000 new employees between 2017 and 2019. The agency had been allocated funding for this staff, so these hiring woes are due to bureaucratic problems, including the fact that the IRS has not updated its workforce plan in 15 years. Further, the IRS has a union contract that requires it to consider internal applicants before hiring externally, a process that TIGTA says leads to a "waste of time and resources" and often results in the agency "shuffling existing employees around."

In 2013, IRS employees spent over 520,000 hours on union activities, costing taxpayers $23.5 million in salary and benefits.


Fuck the irs. My JTC info above tells you, it won’t be the wealthy they are coming after…the poor and working class like always

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It is hysterical how Chico chooses his enemies based on Trumps tweets. IRS, FBI. Etc etc etc. Actually convinces himself that it isn’t Trump who broke the laws but corrupt agencies on witch hunts. If Trump told his sheep that Riggins was public enemy number one Chico would suddenly have pages of “evidence” to support it.

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[quote=punch it in;1319359]It is hysterical how Chico chooses his enemies based on Trumps tweets. IRS, FBI. Etc etc etc. Actually convinces himself that it isn’t Trump who broke the laws but corrupt agencies on witch hunts. If Trump told his sheep that Riggins was public enemy number one Chico would suddenly have pages of “evidence” to support it.[/quote]

Sigh…I’m talking about IRS funding in the latest dem spending bill from the Democrats controlled congress and the democrat controlled White House

This has nothing to do with Trump

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LOL

Everything on here is related to Trump...

That man seriously has people on both sides just outta sorts.

That Cranberries song just keeps playing...In your head, In your head...

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[quote=Chico23231;1319362]Sigh…I’m talking about IRS funding in the latest dem spending bill from the Democrats controlled congress and the democrat controlled White House

This has nothing to do with Trump[/quote]

wanna bet?

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[url]https://nypost.com/2022/08/15/inflation-reduction-act-will-cost-middle-class-20b-cbo/[/url]

Inflation Reduction Act will cost middle class $20B in new taxes: CBO

The Inflation Reduction Act sent to President Biden’s desk will end up forcing working-class Americans to pay billions of dollars in new taxes, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

An analysis by the CBO estimates those earning less than $400,000 — the group on which Biden promised not to raise taxes — will pay an estimated $20 billion more in taxes over the next decade as a result of the Democrat-pushed $740 billion package, which also sets aside $80 billion to hire 87,000 IRS agents.

CBO confirms, Biden increases the taxes on the middle class and poor. Fact check true

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[quote=Chico23231;1319663][url]https://nypost.com/2022/08/15/inflation-reduction-act-will-cost-middle-class-20b-cbo/[/url]

Inflation Reduction Act will cost middle class $20B in new taxes: CBO

The Inflation Reduction Act sent to President Biden’s desk will end up forcing working-class Americans to pay billions of dollars in new taxes, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

An analysis by the CBO estimates those earning less than $400,000 — the group on which Biden promised not to raise taxes — will pay an estimated $20 billion more in taxes over the next decade as a result of the Democrat-pushed $740 billion package, which also sets aside $80 billion to hire 87,000 IRS agents.

CBO confirms, Biden increases the taxes on the middle class and poor. Fact check true[/quote]

As I pointed out before you are wrong and screaming FOX BS that has been disproven.

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Happy Anniversary to the colossal debacle by the Biden administration in the Afghanistan withdrawal which cost us too many lives.

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/afghanistan-taliban-takeover-us-withdrawal-women-rights-poverty-rcna43071[/url]

It’s of course an embarrassment a Congressional investigation has never been done…they are too busy forcing a recession, record high energy prices, fentanyl deaths, inflation, record gun violence, upon the population.

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[quote=Giantone;1319675]As I pointed out before you are wrong and screaming FOX BS that has been disproven.[/quote]

Huh he's screaming CBO BS. Giant not everything the Dems or Biden says is true. Just wanted to let you know.

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[quote=Chico23231;1319679]Happy Anniversary to the colossal debacle by the Biden administration in the Afghanistan withdrawal which cost us too many lives.

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/afghanistan-taliban-takeover-us-withdrawal-women-rights-poverty-rcna43071[/url]

It’s of course an embarrassment a Congressional investigation has never been done…they are too busy forcing a recession, record high energy prices, fentanyl deaths, inflation, record gun violence, upon the population.[/quote]

Call it the Biden surrender. Because that is what it was. (Trump wanted to surrender too so both are surrender monkeys in my book).

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1319679]Happy Anniversary to the colossal debacle by the Biden administration in the Afghanistan withdrawal which cost us too many lives.

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/afghanistan-taliban-takeover-us-withdrawal-women-rights-poverty-rcna43071[/url]

It’s of course an embarrassment a Congressional investigation has never been done…they are too busy forcing a recession, record high energy prices, fentanyl deaths, inflation, record gun violence, upon the population.[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1319364]LOL

Everything on here is related to Trump...

That man seriously has people on both sides just outta sorts.

That Cranberries song just keeps playing...In your head, In your head...[/QUOTE]


Seriously I mean why talk about Trump? I mean all he did was try and overthrow the US government and steal top secret documents. So crazy to harp on that.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1319362]Sigh…I’m talking about IRS funding in the latest dem spending bill from the Democrats controlled congress and the democrat controlled White House

This has nothing to do with Trump[/QUOTE]


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[quote=punch it in;1319683]Seriously I mean why talk about Trump? I mean all he did was try and overthrow the US government and steal top secret documents. So crazy to harp on that.[/quote]


While both may eventually be shown as true, at this point - and as worded, both are a stretch.

Anyway, it's one thing to point out and discuss the things that some believe he may or may not be responsible for, but it's absurd that every other post in here has the word Trump in it. Things that have absolutely nothing to do with the man - dudes are just throwing his name in there, almost like a defense mechanism. Someone brings up a legit concern about the current administration, or the direction this country is seemingly heading, and then it's 'but Trump and his Trumpettes are Trumped up and being Trumpish Sheep and Trumping again...and, and, Fox News sucks...'

It's ok though, I don't mind it [I]that much[/I] really. It's often-times comic relief for me.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319691]While both may eventually be shown as true, at this point - and as worded, both are a stretch.
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......[/quote]

Hardly a stretch. It is almost certainly true that a coup was attempted and he definitely outdid Hillary for illegally having classified material where it didn't belong.

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[quote=nonniey;1319712]Hardly a stretch. It is [B]almost certainly true[/B] that a coup was attempted and he definitely outdid Hillary for illegally having classified material where it didn't belong.[/quote]


I disagree with the notion that Trump tried to overthrow the government. Beat me up about my perspective all you want, but that's giving him way too much credit in my opinion. I'm not a "Trump defender", I am just calling it the way I see it. If it were anyone else in the same position, I would have the same perspective. Yes, I think his 'followers' showed up and rallied for him on that day, a violent riot ensued, and a bunch of assholes stormed the Capitol with no real plan other than chaos. Meanwhile his tweets fueled the fire and he waited way too long to try to shut it down. Were people scared - yes. Were people hurt - yes. Did people die - yes. But to say he tried to overthrow the government is a stretch - and from what I've seen in the reports, hearings, etc., it never got close to that, and they counted the votes a couple hours later...

I am still reserving judgment on the classified material stuff. I don't know exactly what either one of them had - and what the materials pertained to. It's pretty hard to say anyone was outdone when it comes to illegally having classified material outside a controlled environment. Both were obviously wrong to do what they did.

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[url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/yale-professor-blasted-program-working-3-year-olds-gender-journey[/url]

Yale professor blasted for program working with 3-year-olds on their 'gender journey'

A Yale professor is drawing strong criticism on social media over a video in which she explains that she is part of a university program that helps children as young as 3 years old with their "gender journey."

Imagine being so fucking sick in the head to think a 3 year old needs help with transitioning from their gender?

Can anyone here defend this?

Thank god for rufo and many other fighting this gross and disgusting ideology. People complain of religion, but this ideology is a way greater threat with a type of people who have not moral compass, who are evil, who believe in cutting up children to fill some sick progressive object

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[quote=Chico23231;1319814][url]https://www.foxnews.com/us/yale-professor-blasted-program-working-3-year-olds-gender-journey[/url]

Yale professor blasted for program working with 3-year-olds on their 'gender journey'

A Yale professor is drawing strong criticism on social media over a video in which she explains that she is part of a university program that helps children as young as 3 years old with their "gender journey."

Imagine being so fucking sick in the head to think a 3 year old needs help with transitioning from their gender?

Can anyone here defend this?

Thank god for rufo and many other fighting this gross and disgusting ideology. People complain of religion, but this ideology is a way greater threat with a type of people who have not moral compass, who are evil, who believe in cutting up children to fill some sick progressive object[/quote]

What is sad is that you believe all this . That you spend your day looking for this . I bet you still have a subscription to the National Enquirer!

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Nothing triggers the right quite like gender and sexual orientation issues. Just bizarre.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1319830]Nothing triggers the right quite like gender and sexual orientation issues. Just bizarre.[/QUOTE]


Usually when someone is so overly outraged by this it is merely a cover because they themselves have issues with their own sexual orientation.

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So you guys think it's ok to "help" three-year old toddlers on their "gender journey" huh? We should be doing this at 3...?

What's bizarre is the fact that this is a thing at all. 3 year old toddlers should be learning new words, and learning right from wrong, not being mixed up about - am I really a boy...

It's sick honestly. It should be looked at as child abuse.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319834]So you guys think it's ok to "help" three-year old toddlers on their "gender journey" huh? We should be doing this at 3...?

What's bizarre is the fact that this is a thing at all. 3 year old toddlers should be learning new words, and learning right from wrong, not being mixed up about - am I really a boy...

It's sick honestly. It should be looked at as child abuse.[/quote]

Very little info from the article. I personally wouldnt be doing this for my kid and would question any parent doing this but this isnt some public school indoctrination where kids are captive audience.

This would be a voluntary study so I dont think we can tell parents how to parent here or what is best for their child.

Watching my kid go from K to entering 5th grade .. there are 2 kids who have been "gay" since day 1. I doubt they know what gay is or associate it with sexual preference but they wore dresses, clip on earrings.

If your son wants to wear dresses at K or 1st grade ... then youd probably want to be in this study if you as the parent know nothing about gender identity.

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Lots of judgment and presumption ... equating "gay" with "mixed up" tells me all I need to know about how you view this topic.

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It's on FOX :puke:

The video was posted on Yale Medicine's YouTube channel but has since been removed. (YouTube?):spam:

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[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11111841/Yale-Professor-sparks-fury-bragging-helps-children-young-THREE-gender-journey.html[/url]

[url]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/transitioning-three-year-olds/[/url]

[url]https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/yale[/url]

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1319837]Very little info from the article. I personally wouldnt be doing this for my kid and would question any parent doing this but this isnt some public school indoctrination where kids are captive audience.

This would be a voluntary study so I dont think we can tell parents how to parent here or what is best for their child.

Watching my kid go from K to entering 5th grade .. there are 2 kids who have been "gay" since day 1. I doubt they know what gay is or associate it with sexual preference but they wore dresses, clip on earrings.

If your son wants to wear dresses at K or 1st grade ... then youd probably want to be in this study if you as the parent know nothing about gender identity.

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Lots of judgment and presumption ... equating "gay" with "mixed up" tells me all I need to know about how you view this topic.[/QUOTE]


I agree with every single thing you said. As always.

My wife has taught for 25 years. She can tell which kids are lgbtq from day one. So yes a study like this might be good for these particular children. I mean God forbid we make their life progression easier. I mean it isn’t like there are all these gay bashers around. Oh wait.

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[quote=SunnySide;1319837]Very little info from the article. I personally wouldnt be doing this for my kid and would question any parent doing this but this isnt some public school indoctrination where kids are captive audience.

This would be a voluntary study so I dont think we can tell parents how to parent here or what is best for their child.

Watching my kid go from K to entering 5th grade .. there are 2 kids who have been "gay" since day 1. I doubt they know what gay is or associate it with sexual preference but they wore dresses, clip on earrings.

If your son wants to wear dresses at K or 1st grade ... then youd probably want to be in this study if you as the parent know nothing about gender identity.

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Lots of judgment and presumption ... equating "gay" with "mixed up" tells me all I need to know about how you view this topic.[/quote]

Yeah, let's not misunderstand how I view this topic. It's fucking wrong - all wrong. We're talking about three year old toddlers here man. I mean you said yourself, [I]"I doubt they know what gay is or associate it with sexual preference..."[/I]

Three year olds should be on their journey to dinosaur land, not on some journey to what the fuck gender am I. Yes, mixed up is the term I meant to use. Substitute confused if you want - that works as well.

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[quote=punch it in;1319841]I agree with every single thing you said. As always.

My wife has taught for 25 years. She can tell which kids are lgbtq from day one. So yes a study like this might be good for these particular children. I mean God forbid we make their life progression easier. I mean it isn’t like there are all these gay bashers around. Oh wait.[/quote]

The fact that you think taking three year olds on some gender journey will make their life progression easier is laughable. That's about the dumbest thing I've seen on here.

We have gone completely wacko man.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319834]So you guys think it's ok to "help" three-year old toddlers on their "gender journey" huh? We should be doing this at 3...?

What's bizarre is the fact that this is a thing at all. 3 year old toddlers should be learning new words, and learning right from wrong, not being mixed up about - am I really a boy...

It's sick honestly. It should be looked at as child abuse.[/quote]

What if it was a gender-neutral kid that didn't fit in with the other pre-schoolers?

We like to think things are so cut and dry, but my neighbors down the street have a pair of boys, ages 5-8 (I'm assuming - they both look young AF) and both of them wear exclusively girl clothes and when they play with my next door neighbor's kids they act seriously feminine. But the parents encourage it - so who cares. Not my kids.

3 years does seem young but kids have no concept of gender-normal behavior, if a boy knows he likes wearing girls leggings with PINK across the butt and he isn't afraid of being a social outcast in school who cares? Do you want to encourage your kids to be who they are and be happy or do you want to punish them until you can beat the gay out of them?

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[quote=mooby;1319847]What if it was a gender-neutral kid that didn't fit in with the other pre-schoolers?

We like to think things are so cut and dry, but my neighbors down the street have a pair of boys, ages 5-8 (I'm assuming - they both look young AF) and both of them wear exclusively girl clothes and when they play with my next door neighbor's kids they act seriously feminine. But the parents encourage it - so who cares. Not my kids.

3 years does seem young but kids have no concept of gender-normal behavior, if a boy knows he likes wearing girls leggings with PINK across the butt and he isn't afraid of being a social outcast in school who cares? Do you want to encourage your kids to be who they are and be happy or do you want to punish them until you can beat the gay out of them?[/quote]


I think kids wear what the hell they want [U]until[/U] someone either encourages or discourages it. They don't know the significance, and frankly they shouldn't care. Especially at 3.

When my son was like 4, he dressed up as Superwoman. We all got a kick out of it. From that point on should we have encouraged that he continue to dress up as a woman? NO. We let him have his fun and that was that.

It's hard enough to grow up and find yourself, but to be encouraging certain genders before kids have even sniffed puberty is flat out dumb. No wonder why there is a serious mental health problem with our youth.

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[quote=punch it in;1319841]I agree with every single thing you said. As always.

My wife has taught for 25 years. She can tell which kids are lgbtq from day one. So yes a study like this might be good for these particular children. I mean God forbid we make their life progression easier. I mean it isn’t like there are all these gay bashers around. Oh wait.[/quote]

Wife is a Teacher as are two out of three of my kids. While I tend to side with Chief X on this issue I'm not too upset for reasons being it's one Professor and it was taken down by the school which tells me she is an independent in this. Gay is gay it's the way your born . 3,4 is too young, hell IMO 7-9 is too young. She too can tell when a child is just that way, as in being gay. I also believe people get triggered by the LGBTQ name and it scares them

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[quote=Giantone;1319853]Wife is a Teacher as are two out of three of my kids. While I tend to side with Chief X on this issue I'm not too upset for reasons being it's one Professor and it was taken down by the school which tells me she is an independent in this. Gay is gay it's the way your born . 3,4 is too young, hell IMO 7-9 is too young. She too can tell when a child is just that way, as in being gay. I also believe people get triggered by the LGBTQ name and it scares them[/quote]

I'm triggered, but I'm not scared. Unless you are talking about being scared for our children, then yes, I'm scared for them when I see things like this.


I don't think you can definitively say that someone is "born gay". There are many studies on the topic, some for and some against.

[url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/there-is-no-gay-gene-there-is-no-straight-gene-sexuality-is-just-complex-study-confirms[/url]


I do think you can definitively say that if your son puts on pink leggings at 3 or 4 years old, and from that point forward you dress him in girls clothes and treat him like a girl - he's probably going to have issues.

Let kids be kids.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319844]Yeah, let's not misunderstand how I view this topic. It's fucking wrong - all wrong. We're talking about three year old toddlers here man. I mean you said yourself, [I]"I doubt they know what gay is or associate it with sexual preference..."[/I]

Three year olds should be on their journey to dinosaur land, not on some journey to what the fuck gender am I. Yes, mixed up is the term I meant to use. Substitute confused if you want - that works as well.[/quote]

I gotta gate keep a bit here. If you dont have kids in public school, if youre not a parent ... I dont give opinions from non parents much weight. You could very well be a parent and im sure many parents would agree with you.

Here, without knowing the specific circumstances ... without being a parent of a gay kid .. i think we know so little of actual facts that our perceptions shape how we view this lil blurb.

But go ahead and do the fox news conservative gas lamp thing and make this one comment from a professor re a family you know nothing about as proof positive that all schools are indoctrinating "our children"

Its clear you view being gay as some negative affliction and that kids arent born gay but are indoctrinated in some learned behavior

if you dont think people are born gay ... i have zero interest in hearing anything you have to say re gay rights

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Ten women on Wednesday filed a lawsuit against Bill Gothard, who for decades was a major force in the conservative Christian homeschooling movement, charging him and leaders in his ministry with sexual abuse, harassment and cover-up.

Gothard, who urged Christians to shun things like short skirts and rock music, is accused of raping a woman. The same woman says she was raped by one of the ministry’s “biblical counselors.”

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/01/06/new-charges-allege-religious-leader-who-has-ties-to-the-duggars-sexually-abused-women/[/url]

WE MUST STOP THE PEDOPHILE RING THAT IS CHRISTIAN HOME SCHOOLING!!!!

STATES ONLY WANT SCHOOL VOUCHERS FOR RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS TO FILTER CHILDREN TO THEIR PEDOPHILE RINGS AWAY FROM ANY OUTSIDE PUBLIC SCRUTINY!!

cHRISTIANITY IS PERVERSION!!!

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319856]I'm triggered, but I'm not scared. Unless you are talking about being scared for our children, then yes, I'm scared for them when I see things like this.


I don't think you can definitively say that someone is "born gay". There are many studies on the topic, some for and some against.

[url]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/there-is-no-gay-gene-there-is-no-straight-gene-sexuality-is-just-complex-study-confirms[/url]


I do think you can definitively say that if your son puts on pink leggings at 3 or 4 years old, and from that point forward you dress him in girls clothes and treat him like a girl - he's probably going to have issues.

[B]Let kids be kids[/B].[/quote]

Does that include the 1 or 2 kids out of 200 who want to wear dresses as boys?

or is it the old conservative "individual freedom for me and my flock but not for thee".

conservatives ... hypocrites in everything

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1319858]I gotta gate keep a bit here. If you dont have kids in public school, if youre not a parent ... I dont give opinions from non parents much weight. You could very well be a parent and im sure many parents would agree with you.

Here, without knowing the specific circumstances ... without being a parent of a gay kid .. i think we know so little of actual facts that our perceptions shape how we view this lil blurb.

But go ahead and do the fox news conservative gas lamp thing and make this one comment from a professor re a family you know nothing about as proof positive that all schools are indoctrinating "our children"

Its clear you view being gay as some negative affliction and that kids arent born gay but are indoctrinated in some learned behavior

if you dont think people are born gay ... i have zero interest in hearing anything you have to say re gay rights[/QUOTE]


Yeah, I'm a parent, and I have kids in public schools. And I could care less if you give my opinion much weight. You obviously don't read what I write. You just want to bring up shit like Fox News as if that has anything to do with anything I said. And I mentioned nothing about schools indoctrinating kids.

This lady literally said she works with kids as young as [B]3[/B] who may identify as transgender or non-binary, helping them with their gender journey, helping them understand the risks and benefits of medical intervention.... Explain to me how that is just fine?

This isn't a "gay rights" issue, this is a "kids rights" issue , or a "lets let kids be kids" issue. Like I said, it's hard enough for kids to grow up and find themselves, but to be encouraging certain genders before they have even sniffed puberty is idiotic. Let's take the kids on a journey to Alice in Wonderland, not on a journey to Alice Wonders What She Is...

Feel free to believe that people are born gay. That's your prerogative. I do not. There are studies that support both sides of the argument, and based on that you can choose a side, but you can't say definitively that people are born gay. You choose to believe people are born gay, and I choose to believe otherwise. And that's ok...


[QUOTE=SunnySide;1319859]Does that include the 1 or 2 kids out of 200 who want to wear dresses as boys?

or is it the old conservative "individual freedom for me and my flock but not for thee".

conservatives ... hypocrites in everything[/QUOTE]


Let kids be kids - applies to all kids. I used my own kid as an example.

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IMO kids under ten are just not mature enough to know / understand the consequence/ramifications of being Gay. Kids play dress up ,growing up I played Cowboys and Indians and War.,............. now I know better and grew out of it. To add yes I do believe being gay is in your genes when you're born. Thinking back to when I was a kid and what the gay kids were going through, I mean why would you put yourself through that hell back then unless it was something inside you you couldn't change?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319860]Yeah, I'm a parent, and I have kids in public schools. And I could care less if you give my opinion much weight. You obviously don't read what I write. You just want to bring up shit like Fox News as if that has anything to do with anything I said. And I mentioned nothing about schools indoctrinating kids.

This lady literally said she works with kids as young as [B]3[/B] who may identify as transgender or non-binary, helping them with their gender journey, helping them understand the risks and benefits of medical intervention.... Explain to me how that is just fine?

This isn't a "gay rights" issue, this is a "kids rights" issue , or a "lets let kids be kids" issue. Like I said, it's hard enough for kids to grow up and find themselves, but to be encouraging certain genders before they have even sniffed puberty is idiotic. Let's take the kids on a journey to Alice in Wonderland, not on a journey to Alice Wonders What She Is...

Feel free to believe that people are born gay. That's your prerogative. I do not. There are studies that support both sides of the argument, and based on that you can choose a side, but you can't say definitively that people are born gay. You choose to believe people are born gay, and I choose to believe otherwise. And that's ok...





Let kids be kids - applies to all kids. I used my own kid as an example.[/quote]

Do you think kids are taught to be gay? Or that it is a learned thing?
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You say "encouraging certain genders" .... do you believe liberals indoctrinate kids to be gay?

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I think sexuality is a scale, it’s not a black and white/you’re either gay or straight issue.

Some people lean more towards one side or maybe more towards the middle.

We’re such dumb monkeys always obsessed with trivial shit like skin color or who others are sleeping with. FFS.

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da fuq is this?

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