Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 

[quote=GMScud;716866]Yeah but weren't we hearing from both Al and this private trainer of his how he is going to surprise everyone with the shape he's in? Wasn't his trainer publicly bragging about Al's conditioning just a few weeks ago? Also, his knee wasn't an issue until after his second straight day of failing the fitness test. I'll make no apologies for this man.

Yeah he's 115 lbs heavier than I am, but I also ran it 11 seconds faster than he's required to, and I'm not a multi-million dollar pro athlete. Fail Albert, fail.[/quote]

Well he did lose 30 lbs but as we know that doesn't mean he's in better shape. I'm not apologizing for him at all, I wish he would have shown some heart on day 1 and just gutted it out vs. taking a 10 minute breather, errr I mean bathroom break. That said watching Mike Golic run it, or everyone and their mother does nothing to get AH back on the practice field.

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I was on Shanahan's side at the start of this, I think we all wanted to see Ah suffer a bit. But now it's getting to the point where you have to ask what is this accomplishing?

What if he rests the knee a few more days and goes out and passes the thing, and in the process the knee flares up again causing him to miss another week of practice?

At this point this stalemate is a lose/lose for everyone involved. Once his knee is better just get him back on the practice field and let's move on already.

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 

[quote=GMScud;716866]Yeah but weren't we hearing from both Al and this private trainer of his how he is going to surprise everyone with the shape he's in? Wasn't his trainer publicly bragging about Al's conditioning just a few weeks ago? [SIZE=4]Also, his knee wasn't an issue until after his second straight day of failing the fitness test. I'll make no apologies for this man[/SIZE].

Yeah he's 115 lbs heavier than I am, but I also ran it 11 seconds faster than he's required to, and I'm not a multi-million dollar pro athlete. Fail Albert, fail.[/quote]

this.........

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 

Revis needs to get paid...I'd hold too. Chris Johnson should do the same too. I mean, you know the SOBs are going to franchise you after your contract is up and if they're trying to underpay you now they sure as shit won't pay you later.

Young Money.

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People still think there's a war between these two. Silly media propaganda. When Shanahan is even leaving open the possibility of letting AL practice without the test(albeit in the faaaaaaaar future), I'm inclined to think that they Al's been demystified.

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 

[quote=Mattyk;716901]I was on Shanahan's side at the start of this, I think we all wanted to see Ah suffer a bit. But now it's getting to the point where you have to ask what is this accomplishing?

What if he rests the knee a few more days and goes out and passes the thing, and in the process the knee flares up again causing him to miss another week of practice?

At this point this stalemate is a lose/lose for everyone involved. Once his knee is better just get him back on the practice field and let's move on already.[/quote]

I agree that this whole thing is totally detrimental to all parties at this point. But Shanahan was firm in his rule of Albert needing to pass the test to practice, what's gonna happen if he suddenly decides to just let him take the field?

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[quote=Longtimefan;716810]What concerns me more than his passing or not passing the test is the knee itself. If a 300 + lb. man experiences knee problems just from running, what is the likely outcome when he repeatedly get's hit on it. Is this going to be a recurring problem that limits him to in and out of the line-up for various portions of the season?

If Shanahan decides to allow him to practice with the team despite not being able to complete an endurance test, one has to think he's still not in the kind of condition that would be safe for him to continue without the risk of possible further injury. To me, this has the potential for far more serious consequences than just not being able to complete an endurance exercise.[/quote]

agreed

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 

[quote=GMScud;716916]I agree that this whole thing is totally detrimental to all parties at this point. But Shanahan was firm in his rule of Albert needing to pass the test to practice, what's gonna happen if he suddenly decides to just let him take the field?[/quote]

That initial firmness about needing to pass the test has already loosened up. He alluded yesterday to possibly letting AH back on the field without passing the test.

What happens is everyone moves the F on.

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 

[quote=saden1;716904]Revis needs to get paid...I'd hold too. Chris Johnson should do the same too. I mean, you know the SOBs are going to franchise you after your contract is up and if they're trying to underpay you now they sure as shit won't pay you later.

Young Money.[/quote]

agreed.. I think that I read that the Jets are paying 7 db's more than Revis is schedule to make

I've also heard that they offered him around 10 a year and he was like "aww hell no!"

Jets need to pony up a bit more cash and Revis needs to realize if he wants OAK's best player money he needs to go to OAK

Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;716910]People still think there's a war between these two. Silly media propaganda. When Shanahan is even leaving open the possibility of letting AL practice without the test(albeit in the faaaaaaaar future), I'm inclined to think that they Al's been demystified.[/quote]

Yeah I do think at this point the media and fans are making a bigger deal about it than it really is behind closed doors.

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What about the benefits of actually getting that piece of crap in proper shape for maybe the first time in years?

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[quote=wilsowilso;716962]What about the benefits of actually getting that piece of crap in proper shape for maybe the first time in years?[/quote]
yep

less forced TOs, less plays off, him getting the career numbers he wants, etc

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[quote=wilsowilso;716962]What about the benefits of actually getting that piece of crap in proper shape for maybe the first time in years?[/quote]
Even a fat and out of shape Haynesworth gave the team a better pass rush in 2009 then it had in 2008, in which it was totally nonexistent that year. Luckily, in 2008, the schedule wasn't full of elite QBs that would have thrived at such calm on the football field.

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He can't run without his knee swelling, which means he can't do anything -- not the conditioning test, not practice, nothing -- whether the coach, the fans or the media like it or not.

This went from the coach not allowing him to play, and turned into his body not allowing him to play. If there was never any conditioning test from the start, I feel like we'd be in the same situation anyways. He has to sit until he's healthy.

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Yep you are right Ghetto... gotta let the guy heal up before you do any real damage to him. I am not for one minute making an axcuse for the guy though. Just get him healthy and get his ass praticing.