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[quote=skinsfan69;1106386]With all the new coaches that are here, I really hope Snyder stays patient and gives Gruden 3 years. This isn't a playoff team in 2015.[/quote]

I agree with you 100% on this. Blowing up everything after next season would be the worst thing that Snyder could possibly do with this organization. It is past time to establish stability and lay the foundation for long-term success.

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[quote=Mattyk;1106349]First time HC last year, live and learn. Plus with a real GM in place that helps.[/quote]

Matty, you say so much with few words. Surrounding the young HC with good people is the way to achieve stability and success. With a strong organization supporting him, Jay Gruden just needs to be a good leader and decision maker for us to win.

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Why isn't it the same for RGIII or Cousins a good OL around them maybe.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1106421]Why isn't it the same for RGIII or Cousins a good OL around them maybe.[/quote]

Well that hasn't happened. We have a mediocre o-line, terrible special teams, and inconsistent defense. We're the anti-Seahawks.

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i think the seahawks O line (talent wise) is below average. Unger is a premium player but was injured. i dont think he has played all year. Okung you dont hear much about him which its usually a good thing but i dont think he is pro bowl caliber or in TW's level.

will be interesting to see what seattle looks like 2 years from now after RW gets biggest NFL contract ever and thomas, sherman etc. contracts start accelerating.

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[quote=over the mountain;1106426]i think the seahawks O line (talent wise) is below average. Unger is a premium player but was injured. i dont think he has played all year. Okung you dont hear much about him which its usually a good thing but i dont think he is pro bowl caliber or in TW's level.

will be interesting to see what seattle looks like 2 years from now after RW gets biggest NFL contract ever and thomas, sherman etc. contracts start accelerating.[/quote]

Yeah, Im mean we probably have bottom third of the league Oline. Seattle has a fairly average Oline, a top ten RB (maybe top 5), and bottom 5 receiving corp....but Wilson is average (yeah right)

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[quote=over the mountain;1106426]i think the seahawks O line (talent wise) is below average. Unger is a premium player but was injured. i dont think he has played all year. Okung you dont hear much about him which its usually a good thing but i dont think he is pro bowl caliber or in TW's level.

will be interesting to see what seattle looks like 2 years from now after RW gets biggest NFL contract ever and thomas, sherman etc. contracts start accelerating.[/quote]

I'll take Seattle's o-line anytime over our o-line.

[quote=Chico23231;1106427]Yeah, Im mean we probably have bottom third of the league Oline. Seattle has a fairly average Oline, a top ten RB (maybe top 5), and bottom 5 receiving corp....but Wilson is average (yeah right)[/quote]

Wilson is a top 15/top 10 QB statistically speaking. Seattle has surrounded him with good talent and he has taken advantage of that talent to become one of the better QBs in the league.

Seattle is probably one of the most complete teams in the NFL right now. Hence being able to win a playoff game when they turned the ball over 5 times.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1106429]I'll take Seattle's o-line anytime over our o-line.[/quote]

i do covet an elite center - unger, mack pouncey. i think center is so important but still somewhat undervalued in contract terms. most bang for your buck. (that saying had to start in a texas whore house)

but out of both O lines, Trent williams is the only bonafide building block stud. the rest of the guys on both teams are replaceable. for trent alone, i take the skins - keep trent and lich - cut the rest.

maybe the seahawks guards are good and im totally overlooking them. i honestly dont know. our guards do suck. we probably have the worst guard roster of any team. .. . .

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[quote=Chico23231;1106427]Yeah, Im mean we probably have bottom third of the league Oline. Seattle has a fairly average Oline, a top ten RB (maybe top 5), and bottom 5 receiving corp....but Wilson is average (yeah right)[/quote]

im starting to think lynch is top 3 w murray and bell.

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[quote=over the mountain;1106426]i think the seahawks O line (talent wise) is below average. Unger is a premium player but was injured. i dont think he has played all year. Okung you dont hear much about him which its usually a good thing but i dont think he is pro bowl caliber or in TW's level.

will be interesting to see what seattle looks like 2 years from now after RW gets biggest NFL contract ever and thomas, sherman etc. contracts start accelerating.[/quote]

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=14936&src=desktop]NFL How they were built: Comparing Redskins' roster to Super Bowl teams - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1106433][url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=14936&src=desktop]NFL How they were built: Comparing Redskins' roster to Super Bowl teams - ESPN[/url][/quote]

dang, thanks for the link. right on point.

i didnt know the seahawks invested high draft picks on the interior line. smart move. seems like you can find stud guards and centers in the late 1st to 3rd round. hope ours come into shape.

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[quote=over the mountain;1106434]dang, thanks for the link. right on point.

i didnt know the seahawks invested high draft picks on the interior line. smart move. seems like you can find stud guards and centers in the late 1st to 3rd round. hope ours come into shape.[/quote]The biggest difference between us and the SB teams in that article, is that they drafted most of their starting OL. We have to bring in FAs, mostly.

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Let's boil down our talent problem to it's essence: We have had incompetent upper management and a star-struck, over-involved owner for most of the last twenty years.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1106439]The biggest difference between us and the SB teams in that article, is that they drafted most of their starting OL. We have to bring in FAs, mostly.[/quote]

The Patriots are starting undrafted free agents on their line.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2015/01/29/how-can-the-redskins-build-a-super-bowl-quality-o-line/]How can the Redskins build a Super Bowl quality O-line? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1106451]The Patriots are starting undrafted free agents on their line.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2015/01/29/how-can-the-redskins-build-a-super-bowl-quality-o-line/]How can the Redskins build a Super Bowl quality O-line? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]Yes, and according to the article, all but one patriot go their first start with the pats. That indicates to me they still picked their own OL, not go through retreads like we did.