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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1287961]I dont think it puts wolves to bed, and when the stadium breaks out in howls every game the call of the wild is only going to get stronger [emoji3]

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Just listen to what Wright said. How does a wolf come into play with anything that has to do w/ the DMV? Nothing.

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[quote=MTK;1287956]I don't think monuments would be all that bad, it could definitely lead to some cool looking logos. Either way I'm not going to get too worked up over any of this. There will eventually be a new name, some will like it, some won't, and we'll all move forward.[/quote]

To me this would be the best one and make the most sense. You could really come up w/ so many great logos.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1287964]Just listen to what Wright said. How does a wolf come into play with anything that has to do w/ the DMV? Nothing.[/quote]

I haven't actually heard Wright's comment in context, but off the top of my head, the National Zoo seems like it opens the door for any animal to be authentic. In addition, the word authentic doesn't imply or require a specific tie to DC/MD/VA such as the idea of a wolf walking the streets of DC, it could easily mean that the characteristics that they keep flashing on these videos are found both in the Washington team and the Wolves branding. So when they talk about the team values and traits or what the team stands that is where the authentic part comes in. They used terms like nobility, pride, grit, resilience, something deep and meaningful. The wolf as a spirit animal lists most if not all of those characteristics.

Interestingly, I rewatched all three making the brand videos, and the first one ended with them asking kids if it should be an animal and all but 2 raised their hands to say it should.

No one piece in these videos prove it will be Wolves, but so far, watching all 3 I see a very strong marketing method leading to the Wolves.
for like nobility pride,being noble, having pride, caring empathy relentlessness, tradition, strong passion, unified around something deep and meaningful (wolves have
resilince grit tradition nobility should allow that spirit to continue.

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So now that reports are out that the new name won't be any kind of animal or human tribe (I assume that eliminates Redtails too) what does that leave us with?

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[quote=nonniey;1287978]So now that reports are out that the new name won't be any kind of animal or human tribe what does that leave us with?[/quote]

What reports are saying it won't be an animal or human?

Link please.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1287972]I haven't actually heard Wright's comment in context, but off the top of my head, the National Zoo seems like it opens the door for any animal to be authentic. In addition, the word authentic doesn't imply or require a specific tie to DC/MD/VA such as the idea of a wolf walking the streets of DC, it could easily mean that the characteristics that they keep flashing on these videos are found both in the Washington team and the Wolves branding. So when they talk about the team values and traits or what the team stands that is where the authentic part comes in. They used terms like nobility, pride, grit, resilience, something deep and meaningful. The wolf as a spirit animal lists most if not all of those characteristics.

Interestingly, I rewatched all three making the brand videos, and the first one ended with them asking kids if it should be an animal and all but 2 raised their hands to say it should.

No one piece in these videos prove it will be Wolves, but so far, watching all 3 I see a very strong marketing method leading to the Wolves.
for like nobility pride,being noble, having pride, caring empathy relentlessness, tradition, strong passion, unified around something deep and meaningful (wolves have
resilince grit tradition nobility should allow that spirit to continue.[/quote]

The national zoo? lol come on man that's really a reach

Something authentic to the area doesn't seem all that difficult to interpret to me. It's going to be something that ties in specifically with the area. I know you want it to be wolves and that's fine, but you seem to be stretching things quite a bit to fit what you want.

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[quote=MTK;1287980]The national zoo?

Something authentic to the area doesn't seem all that difficult to interpret to me. It's going to be something that ties in specifically with the area. I know you want it to be wolves and that's fine, but you seem to be stretching things quite a bit to fit what you want.[/quote]

the National Zoo might be stretching it, but being authentic doesn't mean a specific tie or link. It means capturing the values and traits of the area. For that Wolves works fine.

I definitely do want Wolves, I also think Wolves, Commanders and WFT are the 3 in competition, and I would be good with Wolves or Commanders, and would hold my nose for a while but ultimately accept WFT.

I just hope they pick something better than Guardians, RedTails, RedHogs, or Monuments

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Not really sure wolves fits under authentic without a bit of a stretch of the imagination. And when compared with something like Monuments, it's a clear winner as to which one is truly more authentic to the area. (Not saying I want Monuments).

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[quote=nonniey;1287978]So now that reports are out that the new name won't be any kind of animal or human tribe (I assume that eliminates Redtails too) what does that leave us with?[/quote]

do you have a link or source for that? I haven't heard anything official saying that. I do think people are trying to use "authentic" as a dismissal of animals but I don't believe the team has ever said that.

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The Washington Replacements ?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1287983]the National Zoo might be stretching it, but being authentic doesn't mean a specific tie or link. It means capturing the values and traits of the area. For that Wolves works fine.

I definitely do want Wolves, I also think Wolves, Commanders and WFT are the 3 in competition, and I would be good with Wolves or Commanders, and would hold my nose for a while but ultimately accept WFT.

I just hope they pick something better than Guardians, RedTails, RedHogs, or Monuments[/quote]

I'd rather have Wolves over Commanders, that is just corny IMO. Plus a Wolf is bad ass, BUT... If they are really going with a D.C Theme then Wolves is out

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It’s not gonna be a animal? Well thank goodness ! There are very few teams with animal names that I like .. the Eagles represents the liberty of philly , the ravens represent Edgar Allan Poe connection with Baltimore .. the dolphins I get .. the Seahawks works ..the rest for me are ho-hum , naming a team after a animal without any other connection is a easy cop out .. let’s see why not the cheetahs, snakes, lizards, opossum, rats, toads, whales, sharks, buzzards, Polecats, elephants, rhinos, … there is NO animal that is authentic, unique or any direct connection with Washington DC …

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Hard to see WFT still being in the running, that would be a bit of a PR disaster if they took 2 years only to stay with WFT.

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[quote=rocnrik;1288003]It’s not gonna be a animal? Well thank goodness ! There are very few teams with animal names that I like .. the Eagles represents the liberty of philly , the ravens represent Edgar Allan Poe connection with Baltimore .. the dolphins I get .. the Seahawks works ..the rest for me are ho-hum , naming a team after a animal without any other connection is a easy cop out .. let’s see why not the cheetahs, snakes, lizards, opossum, rats, toads, whales, sharks, buzzards, Polecats, elephants, rhinos, … there is NO animal that is authentic, unique or any direct connection with Washington DC …[/quote]

Actually Pandas have a huge connection with DC through the good will connection between China and the US. Go Pandas.

I still haven't seen a statement that says no animals. I think that is smoke like the list of 8.

Matty any chance to redo the poll on a new thread (this one is huge anyway) maybe doing Monuments, Commanders, Wolves, other (or leave Wolves off if you feel it has been ruled out.)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1287924]Jason Wright

“The new name will be authentic to DC”[/quote]

Here is the actual context of that quote:
[quote]"I think the biggest thing they did that was important was that [B]they went with something that they believe[/B] was authentic to Cleveland," Wright said. "They have the same mix of reactions from fans that I expect we will have when we roll out our new name, logo, etc. But the way that they did it did have some meaningful tie --[B] the way we talk about having a meaningful tie to the area[/B] and to the history of this team, [B]something that feels something traditional, grit and all that stuff.[/B]"[/quote]

He doesn't say authentic to DC, but authentic to the area. He then defines what that means: something that feels traditional, grit and all that stuff (i assume that stuff is referring to things like nobility, resilience and the other words in the video).

Not gonna lie, that looks like a blow to the Wolves. BUT there is also a lot of wiggle room within the answer. All they have to say to be true to his statement is "[B]We feel[/B] the spirit of the wolfpack [B]captures the grit and perseverance of this area[/B]". We will see, but if the stadium is roaring with howls all season, they may expand on what feeling traditional, and having grit is all about.

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[quote=MTK;1288004]Hard to see WFT still being in the running, that would be a bit of a PR disaster if they took 2 years only to stay with WFT.

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Yeah I don't see them keeping WFT now

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Perhaps a nod to the Chesapeake Bay and the DMV’s favorite crustacean. How about the Washington Sooks?

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Washington Crabcakes

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1288009]Washington Crabcakes[/QUOTE]Instant rivalry with baltimore

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288006]Here is the actual context of that quote:


He doesn't say authentic to DC, but authentic to the area. He then defines what that means: something that feels traditional, grit and all that stuff (i assume that stuff is referring to things like nobility, resilience and the other words in the video).

Not gonna lie, that looks like a blow to the Wolves. BUT there is also a lot of wiggle room within the answer. All they have to say to be true to his statement is "[B]We feel[/B] the spirit of the wolfpack [B]captures the grit and perseverance of this area[/B]". We will see, but if the stadium is roaring with howls all season, they may expand on what feeling traditional, and having grit is all about.[/quote]

Washington Lobbyists

"We feel the spirit of the lobbyist captures the grit and determination of this area."

See? It fits perfectly.

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Washington Veterans…. Not horrible .. it works with the song HTTR .. will be known as the Vets .. obviously a nod to the military vets .. just thinking out loud ..

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Another Hint by Jason Wright …. stuarting people’s memories , people that watched the great redskins teams .. he was talking to The game announcing crew .. Joe T ..I have no idea what they will end up with ..

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1288024]Another Hint by Jason Wright …. stuarting people’s memories , people that watched the great redskins teams .. he was talking to The game announcing crew .. Joe T ..I have no idea what they will end up with ..[/QUOTE]Agreed. That is one theme they have stressed but I haven't seen any name that stands out to give a nod to the past. I really just wish they would announce it, but you heard Wright talk about trademark AND unexpected surprises. I really do trust they are doing it right .

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288026]Agreed. That is one theme they have stressed but I haven't seen any name that stands out to give a nod to the past. I really just wish they would announce it, but you heard Wright talk about trademark AND unexpected surprises. I really do trust they are doing it right .

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I’m with you .. it seems like some smokescreen stuff going on .. I think we will be surprised and I’m not buying that list …although the Hogs check a lot of boxes ..

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1288027]I’m with you .. it seems like some smokescreen stuff going on .. I think we will be surprised and I’m not buying that list …[/QUOTE]If they get it wrong after this whole thing, man that would be so Snyderesque [emoji2961][emoji24]

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Washington Warthogs. Nod to the hogs, the badass tank destroyer aircraft (military), and it begins with W. Wouldn’t shock me. Wouldn’t be my first choice either - I’d prefer wolves - but I could see it.


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[QUOTE=calia;1288070]Washington Warthogs. Nod to the hogs, the badass tank destroyer aircraft (military), and it begins with W. Wouldn’t shock me. Wouldn’t be my first choice either - I’d prefer wolves - but I could see it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Prefer wolves but Warthogs are definitely a badass aircraft. Could get behind it if done right.

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A lot of over stretching about that "authentic" comment... Especially when you consider authentic isn't even about Washington in the quote [emoji1787]

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/wft-team-president-learned-lessons-clevelands-guardians-name-change[/url]

He's talking about Cleveland's renaming process and trying to say nice things about them because he knows how it's like to be in that spot, knows they're gonna get roasted by some people no matter what they pick, and would like not to get roasted too hard by too many people...

He's speaking in very overall generic terms.

Trying to see it as a hint towards (or away from) any name is a MASSIVE stretch.

Just look at the videos they made about the rebrand. Add the Jonathan Allen "dogs on 3" huddle break video, with players howling. Look at every single online poll. And tell me Redwolves/Wolves is not a clear cut front runner at this point.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1288074]A lot of over stretching about that "authentic" comment... Especially when you consider authentic isn't even about Washington in the quote [emoji1787]

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/wft-team-president-learned-lessons-clevelands-guardians-name-change[/url]

He's talking about Cleveland's renaming process and trying to say nice things about them because he knows how it's like to be in that spot, knows they're gonna get roasted by some people no matter what they pick, and would like not to get roasted too hard by too many people...

He's speaking in very overall generic terms.

Trying to see it as a hint towards (or away from) any name is a MASSIVE stretch.

Just look at the videos they made about the rebrand. Add the Jonathan Allen "dogs on 3" huddle break video, with players howling. Look at every single online poll. And tell me Redwolves/Wolves is not a clear cut front runner at this point.

Envoyé de mon SHV48 en utilisant Tapatalk[/QUOTE]There is a video on this link where JP Finlay talks with Jason Wright about RedWolves specifically

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/jason-wright-clarifies-rumors-surrounding-washingtons-potential-name[/url]

He acknowledges the popularity of it, but I wouldn't call it very supportive of it. He does expand on the concept of the name encompassing the spirit of the fan base and "authenticity"

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288078]There is a video on this link where JP Finlay talks with Jason Wright about RedWolves specifically

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/jason-wright-clarifies-rumors-surrounding-washingtons-potential-name[/url]

He acknowledges the popularity of it, but I wouldn't call it very supportive of it. He does expand on the concept of the name encompassing the spirit of the fan base and "authenticity"

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This audio clip is from wayyy back, like in the first 2 weeks after he got hired.
And anyway he knows he can not be supportive of any name.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1288080]This audio clip is from wayyy back, like in the first 2 weeks after he got hired.

And anyway he knows he can not be supportive of any name.[/QUOTE]Gotcha, I didn't catch that it was old since it was tied to an article about the most recent video.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288082]Gotcha, I didn't catch that it was old since it was tied to an article about the most recent video.

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Yeah a lot has been and is being said. Hard to keep track 😅

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[url]https://twitter.com/guynameashley/status/1429102157089890310?s=21[/url]

Listen closely. He said he wants to have a name that honors the past.

Redwolves is out folks

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1288088][url]https://twitter.com/guynameashley/status/1429102157089890310?s=21[/url]

Listen closely. He said he wants to have a name that honors the past.

Redwolves is out folks[/QUOTE]You have been saying that this whole year. I don't think any of us really have an idea of what they will choose. And they are definitely crafting their words to allow for any option to be explained, even if it is a tortured explanation.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1288089]You have been saying that this whole year. I don't think any of us really have an idea of what they will choose. And they are definitely crafting their words to allow for any option to be explained, even if it is a tortured explanation.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]All he says is that they have to be good stewards in the rebranding. If 75% of the fans want redwolves (and I am not saying they do) then being good stewards would include choosing the name redwolves.

Ultimately they are going to announce the name in 2022 and I think they aren't going to be clear and straightforward until they do. The intrigue markets well.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1288090]All he says is that they have to be good stewards in the rebranding. If 75% of the fans want redwolves (and I am not saying they do) then being good stewards would include choosing the name redwolves.

Ultimately they are going to announce the name in 2022 and I think they aren't going to be clear and straightforward until they do. The intrigue markets well.

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I’m just bitter it’s not redskins bro haha jk. At this point I wish they already announced it. I like Wolves over Redwolves but I just don’t see them going that route if they are honoring the past… maybe Washington Hogs?

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1288092][B]I’m just bitter it’s not redskins bro haha jk.[/B] At this point I wish they already announced it. I like Wolves over Redwolves but I just don’t see them going that route if they are honoring the past… maybe Washington Hogs?[/QUOTE]

Lol. Yeah it's weird for me, before the name change I was as diehard that the name should not be changed as you could be. But after the initial shock, I have embraced it. I think the team, players and even some alumni support helped; definitely Rivera's steadfast commitment to the tradition and honor of the team, without high handedness around the change; and of course the team's 180 degree turn in professionalism all have helped me accept the name change. But honestly so did thinking the name will be Wolves (I don't care if it's red wolves) the Washington Wolves with the right branding is just an awesome name for a football team imo.

Warthogs or Hogs is okay, better than many others but it is not as good as Wolves

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1288094]Lol. Yeah it's weird for me, before the name change I was as diehard that the name should not be changed as you could be. But after the initial shock, I have embraced it. I think the team, players and even some alumni support helped; definitely Rivera's steadfast commitment to the tradition and honor of the team, without high handedness around the change; and of course the team's 180 degree turn in professionalism all have helped me accept the name change. But honestly so did thinking the name will be Wolves (I don't care if it's red wolves) the Washington Wolves with the right branding is just an awesome name for a football team imo.

Warthogs or Hogs is okay, better than many others but it is not as good as Wolves

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Yeah I’m used to WFT now too, as long as this team starts winning often I don’t care what the name is. You are right about wolves tho, you could kill the marketing game with that name / Logo.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1288088][url]https://twitter.com/guynameashley/status/1429102157089890310?s=21[/url]

Listen closely. He said he wants to have a name that honors the past.

Redwolves is out folks[/QUOTE]Haha no he's not. He says "this renaming is about *can't hear one word* people's memory, people that watched you play Joe, with their parents, their grand parents, with their loved ones, and so we gotta take our time to do it right" rather than "picking a name out of a hat".

He's justifying why they're are taking so much time. He's not saying anything about what they want to pick.

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