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I think we need to see why he was let go from the other teams.[/QUOTE]

was he let go?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;657318]So basically, in the year off, you think that MS only looked at two OL coaches, and/or that in the 2 weeks that he has been at work he didn't look at who else might be available that could coach the line the way he wants.

As for the 2nd point,[B] it's not like Foerster was calling BINGO last week. [/B]He was an OL coach, looking at film and probably packing for the shrine bowl and senior bowl.

I don't know what style he brings, but if every other coach they brought in fits with what they intend to do, and any intelligent football guy knows that the OL has to be functioning for their offense to go, I think Shanahan understands what he wants in a line coach.

Could I be wrong, sure. In fact the SF website had a full thread bashing this guy-in addition to the one post quoted earlier, so he could be the next Stan Hixon, or the fans could be wrong and it could have been his players. I guess I am not going to get down on a guy who hasn't even unpacked his bags yet.[/quote]

Ya know it irritates the hell out of me and I don't know why when people say this but I can honestly say his lame BINGO calling ass did what the staff on the roster couldn't do in a season and a half. Pretty shitty when a BINGO caller is better then the "young talented genius" minds we supposedly had on the team already.

but I will agree his resume seems nice and hopefully Shanahan's system is also plug and play like the players positions.

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[quote=SBXVII;657362]I think the feeling comes because no one has heard of him before. .[/quote]
I'd bet there are less than 5 posters on here that can name 5 or more O-Line coaches. I'd bet that most people here can't name 5 OCs.

Face it, if it wasn't the O-Line coach from the Colts, plenty of people would have something to say negatively; hell even if it was people would wonder why the guy left.

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[quote=SBXVII;657367]Ya know it irritates the hell out of me and I don't know why when people say this but I can honestly say his lame BINGO calling ass did what the staff on the roster couldn't do in a season and a half. Pretty shitty when a BINGO caller is better then the "young talented genius" minds we supposedly had on the team already.

but I will agree his resume seems nice and hopefully Shanahan's system is also plug and play like the players positions.[/quote]

I wasn't trying to irritate, I liked the SL hire, check my posts. I just wanted to point out that this guy was not sitting around, and not keeping up with the current OL potential players.

Overall, I simply am willing to give the benefit of doubt to Shanahan, who has had success with OL's in the past

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[quote=tryfuhl;657372]I'd bet there are less than 5 posters on here that can name 5 or more O-Line coaches. I'd bet that most people here can't name 5 OCs.

Face it, if it wasn't the O-Line coach from the Colts, plenty of people would have something to say negatively; hell even if it was people would wonder why the guy left.[/quote]

True. Plus if its not "their" choice or first choice people present a lot of negativity. No I guess your right I couldn't name 3 OL coach's in this league (minus Buges), but no different then not all people are fan favorites of Haslett, or some of the defensive coaching positions, or Danny Smith, people are going to wonder why him? keep in mind there are always two sides to every story and although its a wonderful write up about the new OL coach I too wonder what negatives we will see from him? I hope he comes in and gets the OL working well together and this team performs well.

Perhaps it's nice to know what the negatives are. With M.Shanahan we know his running game was awsome but his passing game was good but not awsome. With K.Shanahan we know his passing offense is awsome but his running game was simply good. So hopefully between the two they can put together a team that has an excellent running and passing attack. But it will all center around who the OL coach is, how good of a coach he is, does he teach the scheme Shanahan needs to get this whole offensive scheme working or will there be issues with different philosophies?

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Well keep in mind that the whole time that Shanahan was OC and I believe the year before that Gibbs was in control of the running game, Shanahan became OC just last year and was the QB coach before that. I doubt that Mike would let Kyle drop off the running game less than his standard if he does have an issue with it. It's hard to say with our personnel right now.. and potentially next year, if our running game would be that hot anyways. If we do switch our primary blocking scheme it may take awhile to develop anyways. They had injuries like we did this year too.. pro bowl TE, 2 guards, starting RB, etc

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[quote=Longtimefan;657280]SFREDSKIN talk to me!!...Tell us what you know about coach Forester. I've never heard of him but he's got a resume filled with experience. I guess if Richard Mann is signed as WR coach, the staff will be just about complete.[/quote]

Foerster is a decent coach who's only been in SF 2 years, the reason the 49ers OL were horrible was due to injury like Washington and also holes in the line. Their best OL (Staley was out for about 8 games). Frank Gore has had 4 consecutive 1000 yard seasons (2 with Foerster). The ironic thing is that people on this forum were talking about Solari as our next OL coach, well guess were he ended up? SF

[url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/21/SPO81BLM9C.DTL[/url]

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Someone else said it (first) and it's pretty wise: an incoming coach w/ something to prove can be a great thing. Haslett, though his resume is unimpressive, seems like that guy. Not sure about Forrester (I'll spell his name like the ugly Subaru :)). What does he have to prove? Hard to say.

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Let's just turst in Shanahan and see where this goes.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;657386]Foerster is a decent coach who's only been in SF 2 years, the reason the 49ers OL were horrible was due to injury like Washington and also holes in the line. Their best OL (Staley was out for about 8 games). Frank Gore has had 4 consecutive 1000 yard seasons (2 with Foerster). The ironic thing is that people on this forum were talking about Solari as our next OL coach, well guess were he ended up? SF

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/21/SPO81BLM9C.DTL]49ers shuffle offensive line coaches[/url][/quote]

Thanks dude!! I'm just hoping he'll be able to take whatever holdovers we'll have from the Bugel line couple them with whatever additions we may make either through the draft or FA and mold them into a formidable group by the time we start playing for real again. He's going to have his work cut out for him but his resume suggest's he should be able to field a good product.

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[quote=Longtimefan;657405]Thanks dude!! I'm just hoping he'll be able to take whatever holdovers we'll have from the Bugel line couple them with whatever additions we may make either through the draft or FA and mold them into a formidable group by the time we start playing for real again. He's going to have his work cut out for him but his resume suggest's he should be able to field a good product.[/quote]

I think he's done a good job in SF with what he inherited on the line, he was probably responsible with his input on drafting Chilo Rachal. It's hard to evaluate after only 2 years. We'll see.

Years Coaching Background Head Coach
2009-Current Offensive Line San Francisco 49ers - Mike Singletary
2008 Offensive Line San Francisco 49ers - Mike Nolan
2005-2007 Offensive Line/Assistant Head Coach Baltimore Ravens - Brian Billick
2004 Offensive Coordinator Miami Dolphins - Jim Bates, Dave Wannstedt
2002-2003 Tight Ends Indianapolis Colts - Tony Dungy
1996-2001 Offensive Line Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Tony Dungy
1993-1995 Assistant Offensive Line/Tight Ends Minnesota Vikings - Dennis Green
1992 Offensive Line University of Minnesota - Jim Wacker
1988-1991 Assistant Offensive Line/Special Teams Stanford - Jack Elway & Dennis Green
1983-1988 Offensive Line Colorado State - Leon Fuller
1982 Graduate Assistant Colorado State - Leon Fuller

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[quote=The Goat;657397][B]Someone else said it (first) and it's pretty wise: an incoming coach w/ something to prove can be a great thing.[/B] Haslett, though his resume is unimpressive, seems like that guy. Not sure about Forrester (I'll spell his name like the ugly Subaru :)). What does he have to prove? Hard to say.[/quote]

Exhibit A: Gregg Williams.

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Why hasn't Brian Billick gotten job interviews? Don't get me wrong, I am not a huge Billick fan, I'm just wondering. But he does have a positive track record which includes a Super Bowl win. Gailey and Carroll have never won Super Bowls. Why does Billick get no love?

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[quote=Lotus;657457]Why hasn't Brian Billick gotten job interviews? Don't get me wrong, I am not a huge Billick fan, I'm just wondering. But he does have a positive track record which includes a Super Bowl win. Gailey and Carroll have never won Super Bowls. Why does Billick get no love?[/quote]

In todays NFL the trend is to hire coaches that have never won a Super Bowl since coaches have never been able to win a Super Bowl with two different teams at least as a Head Coach. Hopefully Coach Mike will break that trend and if he doesn't then at least his son should be a great candidate to succeed his father. Only problem is he might be a little young when his father retires (my guess around 35).

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;657407]I think he's done a good job in SF with what he inherited on the line, he was probably responsible with his input on drafting Chilo Rachal. It's hard to evaluate after only 2 years. We'll see.

Years Coaching Background Head Coach
2009-Current Offensive Line San Francisco 49ers - Mike Singletary
2008 Offensive Line San Francisco 49ers - Mike Nolan
2005-2007 Offensive Line/Assistant Head Coach Baltimore Ravens - Brian Billick
2004 Offensive Coordinator Miami Dolphins - Jim Bates, Dave Wannstedt
2002-2003 Tight Ends Indianapolis Colts - Tony Dungy
1996-2001 Offensive Line Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Tony Dungy
1993-1995 Assistant Offensive Line/Tight Ends Minnesota Vikings - Dennis Green
1992 Offensive Line University of Minnesota - Jim Wacker
1988-1991 Assistant Offensive Line/Special Teams Stanford - Jack Elway & Dennis Green
1983-1988 Offensive Line Colorado State - Leon Fuller
1982 Graduate Assistant Colorado State - Leon Fuller[/quote]

He's had the opportunity in his twenty-eight yr. coaching history to work with some very good coaches. The OL is going to be the most closely watched group as far as additions and development, needless to say he obviously has a plan knowing the state of the product we were forced to field last season. I'm anxious to see what he, along with the other additions to the coaching staff will do to improve the team we'll field in 2010.