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I don't think I've ever seen AJ Smith smile. He seems like one of those guys that tries way to hard to be tough 24/7. Never trust a man without a sense of humor.

Seriously this is the closest I've ever seen him smile
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Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=Ruhskins;737727]I doubt he'd do this, he needs to accrue his season to become an UFA.

I find it funny that so many people on this thread are on VJ's side just because they want him to be a Redskins. Typically, whenever there is a story such as this (player vs. team) 9 times out of 10 the fans side with the team (i.e. Revis, up to a certain degree Haynesworth, pretty much any player that holds out). I know that every holdout is different, I just always see fans siding with the team (i.e. the guy should just show up; the player needs to honors his contract; etc., etc.).[/quote]
It's a simple concept. [B]Winning[/B] takes a [B]higher priority [/B]than [B]character except[/B] when the fan [B]deems it convenient (aka when said player does not benefit "their team.[/B]). I said as much in the Haynesworth trade thread.

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I wouldnt say he is never going to be a Skin. Wait till FA next year. I think we may still land him with out giving up more of our future.

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Well today answered two of my questions:
Will VJax be playing for us/anyone this year? NO
Why did Eli not want to play for San Diego? "Because Archie Manning claims AJ Smith is the Lord of No Rings"

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;737727]I doubt he'd do this, he needs to accrue his season to become an UFA.

I find it funny that so many people on this thread are on VJ's side just because they want him to be a Redskins. Typically, whenever there is a story such as this (player vs. team) 9 times out of 10 the fans side with the team (i.e. Revis, up to a certain degree Haynesworth, pretty much any player that holds out). I know that every holdout is different, I just always see fans siding with the team (i.e. the guy should just show up; the player needs to honors his contract; etc., etc.).[/QUOTE]
I basically agree with this post. And his response to not getting traded was ridiculous. Yeah AJ was being petty, but if this was a Skins restricted FA most everyone here would be fussing about the player.

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Not only were the redskins interested,but they already had a 4 yr 44 mil dollar already on the table...so closing this thread before the week 6 deadline would be premature...

We also had a deadl in place for haynesworth to tennesse as part of this package,but was only offered a 4th from them.

So we were going to offer that 4th and our very own 2nd rounder (w/contrat of 4yr/44m) but the deal was nix by S.D and A.J.Smith.

There were multiple teams involved...

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[quote=aceinthehouse;737751]Not only were the redskins interested,but they already had a 4 yr 44 mil dollar already on the table...so closing this thread before the week 6 deadline would be premature...

We also had a deadl in place for haynesworth to tennesse as part of this package,but was only offered a 4th from them.

So we were going to offer that 4th and our very own 2nd rounder (w/contrat of 4yr/44m) but the deal was nix by S.D and A.J.Smith.

There were multiple teams involved...[/quote]

Where are you getting that information? How do you know it is factual?

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;737754]Where are you getting that information? How do you know it is factual?[/quote]

Let's hope he's not related to the "bro".

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=Ruhskins;737727]I doubt he'd do this, he needs to accrue his season to become an UFA.

I find it funny that so many people on this thread are on VJ's side just because they want him to be a Redskins. Typically, whenever there is a story such as this (player vs. team) 9 times out of 10 the fans side with the team (i.e. Revis, up to a certain degree Haynesworth, pretty much any player that holds out). I know that every holdout is different, I just always see fans siding with the team (i.e. the guy should just show up; the player needs to honors his contract; etc., etc.).[/quote]

The situation here is different -- he has no contract to honor. He wants a long-term contract and they would only give him a 1 year deal, so he didn't sign it. Then, they basically insulted him by lowering the offer to 600K. He wants some commitment from his team and they won't give it up. AJ Smith is a dick, plain and simple. I can totally understand why VJax doesn't want to work for him.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;737759]Let's hope he's not related to the "bro".[/quote]


Are you talking about Fred Davis's supposed brother? A poster that was on here a couple of years ago?

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;737760]The situation here is different -- he has no contract to honor. He wants a long-term contract and they would only give him a 1 year deal, so he didn't sign it. Then, they basically insulted him by lowering the offer to 600K. He wants some commitment from his team and they won't give it up. AJ Smith is a dick, plain and simple. I can totally understand why VJax doesn't want to work for him.[/quote]

VJ is still a restricted free agent. While not at the same type of production, Rocky McIntosh and Carlos Rogers were in the same boat (being FA).

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;737763]Are you talking about Fred Davis's supposed brother? A poster that was on here a couple of years ago?[/quote]

No. There was a guy who was posting on the Redskins.com article comments section claiming that he had a "bro" who worked as a lawyer or something for the organization. Due to the nature of his job, this "bro" of his had access to a lot of private meetings of the guys at the top. This was during training camp.

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=aceinthehouse;737751]Not only were the redskins interested,but they already had a 4 yr 44 mil dollar already on the table...so closing this thread before the week 6 deadline would be premature...

We also had a deadl in place for haynesworth to tennesse as part of this package,but was only offered a 4th from them.

So we were going to offer that 4th and our very own 2nd rounder (w/contrat of 4yr/44m) but the deal was nix by S.D and A.J.Smith.

There were multiple teams involved...[/quote]
would love to hear how you found these terms, but if you found them outside of where I knew to look you probably wouldn't want to share

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VJ has a very valid point here...

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/23/vincent-jackson-says-chargers-tactics-feel-unethical/]Vincent Jackson says Chargers tactics "feel unethical" | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

"I just don't understand why [a trade wasn't completed]," Jackson said. "They obviously think I'm a valuable player by asking for such high trade compensation, but why am I only offered tender salary?"

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can anyone find a link to jacksons rookie contract terms. i know it was for 5 years and he made approx 900k last year but i cant find one dang link that lays out his rookie contract terms.

also i cant find a dang site that has stats like "times targeted" or "catches allowed" or "tpa".

i know footballoutsiders has stats like DVOA or success pecent but none of the normal cornerback stats like catches allowed.